KZ x HBB Pr2 Planar Magnetic IEM | Full Review

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Video Chapters:
0:00 INTRO
0:29 VALUE
1:10 DRIVABILITY
2:19 TONE & TIMBRE
3:04 TECHNICALITIES
3:58 SOUND SIGNATURE
8:57 CONCLUSION
9:24 COMPARISION
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@aceryn2341
@aceryn2341 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Concise, time stamps, channel keeps getting better!
@foxgaming76yt24
@foxgaming76yt24 Жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to the review, gonna check it out now
@raychan9926
@raychan9926 Жыл бұрын
Nice review as always!
@daf676
@daf676 Жыл бұрын
been waiting this almost a week lol
@ateksudianto6237
@ateksudianto6237 Жыл бұрын
good review, thank you
@asan1050
@asan1050 Жыл бұрын
Ian..Thanks Much !.......
@joejunior4700
@joejunior4700 Жыл бұрын
Now I'm really looking forward for my payday, very much excited with the PR2. I mean I finally hear the wor "KZ"from Timmy's mouth after a long while, so KZ might be up to something on PR2.
@jari121
@jari121 Жыл бұрын
I have a newer version of the PR2 that doesn't have that black blanket over the driver. It has too much treble. I tamed it with narrow bore tips and using a balanced cable with a high power amplifier. HiFri talked about these different versions in his review. HiFri suggested using filters on the nozzles.
@ClubDeTiroNalon
@ClubDeTiroNalon 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@s1lverhand_
@s1lverhand_ Жыл бұрын
nevermind but it would've been better if you took the time to compare with your rest of the collection rather than the other KZs
@abdulazizthabet4688
@abdulazizthabet4688 Жыл бұрын
Yup you're 100% right.. I also didn't like how he didn't mention any of the cons or things he wished to be better at least..
@colddish
@colddish Жыл бұрын
He’s already said in the beginning and the end the price is so good it’s a no brainer to get this iem. But he did pick heyday, timeless and talos over pr2.
@Rsalmond83
@Rsalmond83 Жыл бұрын
Basically, the PR2 is better than the rest he didn’t compare with and is on par with the Heyday.
@fuad000100
@fuad000100 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the video he made a short comparison with the best planars (Heyday, Talos, Timeless AE) and he said the PR2 are comparable to Heyday which means they're better than s12/s12 pro, Zetian Wu etc.
@andikhidir4103
@andikhidir4103 Жыл бұрын
Let's goooo
@muhasri1985
@muhasri1985 Жыл бұрын
i have Kz pr1 Pro 😁 so i decided to BLON X hbb 😁 anyway Thanks and Nice Review 😁
@ZeusPropofol
@ZeusPropofol Жыл бұрын
You are not missing anything. IMHO PR2 is shouty. Comparing back to back, I prefer PR1 Pro with Comply foam tips
@koningklootzak7788
@koningklootzak7788 Жыл бұрын
There are no honest reviewers on KZfaq. They are all afraid to bash a crappy new product. Only talk about good stuff to lure blind sheeple.
@muhasri1985
@muhasri1985 Жыл бұрын
sometimes asking to myself 🤔 why this Happen 😁 ? why Kz pr 2 is better than Kz pr1 Pro 🤔 ?
@muhasri1985
@muhasri1985 Жыл бұрын
@@koningklootzak7788 maybe they Afraid 😁 because No more Giveaway from the Company 😂
@mensrea1251
@mensrea1251 Жыл бұрын
The KZ brand actually becoming relevant again. Wow.
@luciferacheros
@luciferacheros Жыл бұрын
I mainly use these for PC, is there gonna be any drivability issues or things to consider if its used on PC? Sorry, I'm still noob on IEMs.
@tusharpatel2190
@tusharpatel2190 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ian How would you compare this against the simgot ea500... I want to buy my first iem and Iam confused between these two.
@ahraziqbal9
@ahraziqbal9 Жыл бұрын
is the soundstage wider and more spacious than the Tripowin x HBB Olina?
@user-hx4uj1yp1l
@user-hx4uj1yp1l Жыл бұрын
I'в also like to hear the comparison with at least Letshouer S12 and S12 Pro. Thank you for the review anyway!
@Rsalmond83
@Rsalmond83 Жыл бұрын
If it’s on par with Heyday, then it beats out S12 and S12 Pro easily
@koningklootzak7788
@koningklootzak7788 Жыл бұрын
​@@Rsalmond83 what a joker
@Mixail747
@Mixail747 Жыл бұрын
@@Rsalmond83 He said it is close to Heyday tonally, not technically.
@Mixail747
@Mixail747 Жыл бұрын
I agree, would be a more meaningful comparison, since the S12 is cheaper and, hence, closer to PR2 than what he actually chose to compare it with.
@kikilafrite09
@kikilafrite09 7 ай бұрын
i just got them! quite the upgrade from my kz zsn pro's that my sister broke unfortunately ahaha, made for a good opportunity i guess! now one quick question, where can i get good quality cables for my hbb's? im planning on pairing them with a SMSL M300SE DAC, thanks man! loved the video very detailed!
@panhaxxi2238
@panhaxxi2238 Жыл бұрын
would you recommend this or Simgot EA500 for value and sounding ?
@Shinjutsu211
@Shinjutsu211 Жыл бұрын
bro ian... from this comparison, please tell me the order of the best musicality ?
@martinmonett7641
@martinmonett7641 Жыл бұрын
how hard to drive you'd say these are? is the max volume of apple dongle not loud enough?
@enriqueism
@enriqueism 10 ай бұрын
Hi I have just bought a pair, a want to buy a balanced cable for my Megatron DAC. Is QDC the correct conector? Thanks.
@user-ku4zs8qx8z
@user-ku4zs8qx8z Ай бұрын
One year has passed, any other earphones that surpassed this one?
@des7royerz
@des7royerz Жыл бұрын
The back of the PR2 is open? Or its full closed like every iem?
@d_dude_is_here
@d_dude_is_here Жыл бұрын
Any comparisons with simgot ea500?
@rodm1949
@rodm1949 Жыл бұрын
Why does KZ persist with their .75 cable, I would dive in if it was a .78. I have plenty of .78 cables, "Does anybody run the stock cable". The GoldPlanar GL20 is in a league of it's own. Where does the NiceHCK F1 sit in the planar placement?
@FaizalKuntz
@FaizalKuntz Жыл бұрын
i got this feeling this $40 PR2 IEM isn't sound as good if it compares with $100-$200 Planar IEM but i wish you could compare it with IEM in the same price because that what i really want to know.
@joejunior4700
@joejunior4700 Жыл бұрын
That's already a given.
@mindsight1
@mindsight1 Жыл бұрын
and you would be wrong
@moonsofjupiter
@moonsofjupiter Жыл бұрын
Ian, it seems that the Timeless AE has the most bass out of the planar iems, and it's not even that bass heavy. I’m waiting for a meaty bass driven planar iem and wondering who will do it first and get it right. They should aim for a tuning like the 4 BA Symphonium Meteor with hefty sub and mid bass, smooth treble and good extension air. But I’m not sure if they can do it with planars today. If they do, I’m all over it. My planar LCD X 2021’s have the best bass I ever heard and hoping that planar iem tech can catch up to the big brother headphone tech. Btw, the Meteors tuning and timbre is close the LCDs. I hoped that the PR2s would have had more bass overall, but alas, I’m a basshead.
@HardwareMana
@HardwareMana Жыл бұрын
Have a look at the Pla13 by cca
@jbjmx
@jbjmx Жыл бұрын
Pla13 ☝️
@coaldust01
@coaldust01 Жыл бұрын
That's why the quidelix 5k exists, takes all but 1 min to add a bass shelf and you can have them as lean or bassy as you like.
@rustyshakelford1466
@rustyshakelford1466 Жыл бұрын
HookX has the most oomph (impact), but best bass overall probably Zetian Wu original.
@onthefences
@onthefences Жыл бұрын
Bought the Pr1 Pro a day before these came out...really in a dilemma if to return it when I receive them and order these instead, are they that much better then the Pr1 Pro?
@sleepe8050
@sleepe8050 Жыл бұрын
At least as good and less then half the price bro 😊
@tsukinome4845
@tsukinome4845 Жыл бұрын
Pr1 pro is better
@rahma_dihann
@rahma_dihann Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't even mention the other cheapest planar IEM on the market rn, TRN Rosefinch. Waiting for your opinion about this two compared in terms of technical performance since the tuning of Rosefinch might not suit some people.
@humanbass
@humanbass Жыл бұрын
The PR2 is a much, much safer choice.
@rahma_dihann
@rahma_dihann Жыл бұрын
Obviously. It's just, I like the build on the Rosefinch more and I'm not allergic to EQ, so it'll be better if it has the same if not better technicality. Too bad I can't try the Rosefinch in my country unless I blindbuy it.
@user-hx4uj1yp1l
@user-hx4uj1yp1l Жыл бұрын
I'm not a vlogger or IEM reviewer, just a humble audiophile with 20 years of experience, owing a bunch of IEMs (Etymotic ER-4S, Etymotica ER4XR, Letshouer S12, Letshouer S12 Pro, KZ PR1 Hi-Fi, TRN Xuanwu, KZ AS16, TRN Rosefinch and some much lower budget) and headphones (Sehnheiser HD650, HiFiMan 400SE). And I must say that Rosefinch sound like shit! Even Xuanwu are better, though they are garbage too. So TRN Rosefinch is just a waste of money comparable to the price of PR2.
@rahma_dihann
@rahma_dihann Жыл бұрын
@@user-hx4uj1yp1l Noted, appreciate the input.
@user-hx4uj1yp1l
@user-hx4uj1yp1l Жыл бұрын
@@rahma_dihann I also had to blindbuy Rosefinch and I regret the buying.
@hanamaru258
@hanamaru258 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ian! out of your entire collection, which iem do you use the most?
@Rsalmond83
@Rsalmond83 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@karsten.boethling
@karsten.boethling Жыл бұрын
@@Rsalmond83 for sure
@anatol1204
@anatol1204 Жыл бұрын
👍 Tremble madness again.Noone made a warm neutral planar yet.I wonder who is gonna sell first and who last..The other issue is if you force one driver to push too much bass you loose A LOT of nuances technicalities..That said I think there is still enough room for a neutral very technical planar iem.If I had the means I would make one like this but I can't.. Something between Oracle mk 1 and mest mk2.Very little bass raise very little 3khz rise and after straight line
@anatol1204
@anatol1204 Жыл бұрын
@@rustyshakelford1466 I have p1 max yes it's relatively flat until it reaches 8 khz then 🚀..as usual..
@foxgaming76yt24
@foxgaming76yt24 Жыл бұрын
I'm still curious, how does it compare to the rest of the Planars? I wouldn't mind waiting to hear your opinion on how they compare to the rest of your planar collection, after all, I want to know where they stand on (at least your)the list of relevant Planar IEMs. Edit: Forgot to mention this, but specifically I wanna know how it compares tech wise. Tonality/FR/Sound Signature comparisons would be appreciated too though. Also, I don't remember you mentioning this, but do these have the "planar timbre" that many are familiar with?
@VanDungLe2510
@VanDungLe2510 Жыл бұрын
I know that it's better than the Dioko and Stellaris lol
@Rsalmond83
@Rsalmond83 Жыл бұрын
If it’s on par with Heyday, then it’s better than the rest. Heyday doesn’t have a planar timbre. Soundstage is holographic on Heyday, at least to my ears…and very musical and engaging. Clarity and details are too notch on the heyday, so at$ 40 or less for the PR2, it’s a no brainer.
@ZeusPropofol
@ZeusPropofol Жыл бұрын
@@Rsalmond83 its not on par with Heyday. Just listened to PR2 and Heyday. Heyday is a better, more refined, wider soundstage with better details. PR2 is V-shaped, upper mids are SHOUTY. 5k energy is just too much! with so much upper mids, hard to hear midbass and lower mids. it's just too clean. I prefer PR1 Pro with foam tips, closer to Heyday, overall
@rustyshakelford1466
@rustyshakelford1466 Жыл бұрын
I would say it's a poor man's Zetian Wu. It has the Zetian Wu bass shelf anyways, but more upper mids and slightly wonkier highs. I think it would need some EQ work for more sensitive listeners, but hey it's 1/3 the price of the Zetian Wu, which will probably be hard to find soon as it's discontinued in favor of the Heyday. So this would be a good IEM to get a taste of planar sound and a good EQ candidate like dioko but no it's not as good as the top planars and I think if you want a planar that doesn't have offensive timbre you still should get a Tangzu.
@mrcrunch8000
@mrcrunch8000 Жыл бұрын
@VanDungLe2510 🤣 wrong but to each their own. If you owned them, I'm confident you wouldn't be saying that.
@user-nl3nn2jc9o
@user-nl3nn2jc9o Жыл бұрын
What name have Iem with blue cable?
@AndresPrass
@AndresPrass Жыл бұрын
PR2 or Z300?
@mrcrunch8000
@mrcrunch8000 Жыл бұрын
it's a shame you didn't compare the cheapest planar, the pr2, against the other more affordable planars. I don't understand why you wouldn't compare it to the planars that are closer to its price range.
@Mixail747
@Mixail747 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I got excited when I saw the row of planars on top, but then he goes "I'm not gonna compare it to those because time or something". Lol, what a joke.
@DenzCasuela
@DenzCasuela Жыл бұрын
I can buy those for around $35 here in the philippines
@PrivateArmy666
@PrivateArmy666 Жыл бұрын
The cable that comes with the new pr2 lookes cheaper and not as good as the one that comes with the pr1 pro. I am a bigginer to all these IEM and lossless music, so will it be better to upgrade to a better cable if I go for this PR2. And also i would like to know how good is this PR2 when compared to the rest of your collection. Anybody can reply to this comment so that i will get to know this better. Thanks
@HardwareMana
@HardwareMana Жыл бұрын
You don't need to upgrade the cable necessarily unless the cable is microphonic or tangles a lot. So you can get the pr2 and get a better cable later.
@aarliann
@aarliann Жыл бұрын
if not a cable upgrade, probably some kind of impedance adapter; which I’ve heard is almost required for better tuning several KZ models.
@foxgaming76yt24
@foxgaming76yt24 Жыл бұрын
@@aarliann An impedance adapter usually increases the bass response of DDs, while bringing out the treble in BAs. Using an impedance adapter on a hybrid will likely turn their older v shaped sets into an even more aggressive v shape(assuming the BAs even work on their older sets), but u can't say for sure
@supra8087
@supra8087 Жыл бұрын
Tech Savvy said PR2 has better separation and layering with a higher level of clarity compared to Dunu Talos but Ian says Dunu Talos is untouchable compared to PR2.. Some personel reviews stated that PR2’s bass and treble improved significantly after some burn-in process. Maybe its related to that.
@foxgaming76yt24
@foxgaming76yt24 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's likely agreeable that it's technical performance is at least above anything under 50 bucks, if not above everything under 100, so yeah
@LateBandwagon
@LateBandwagon Жыл бұрын
Bro take off the blue plastic wrap off your heyday aux jack
@Fear_BFG
@Fear_BFG Жыл бұрын
what plug should i choose? 3.5mm or the 4.4mm? first using it with phone only then will buy dap soon
@ianfann
@ianfann Жыл бұрын
4.4 for more wattage but 3.5 for more compatibility.
@Fear_BFG
@Fear_BFG Жыл бұрын
@@ianfann but can i use the 4.4mm for my phone right? Or even my pc? Thanks for the reply sir!
@ianfann
@ianfann Жыл бұрын
Nope
@Fear_BFG
@Fear_BFG Жыл бұрын
@@ianfann thanks better off with the 3.5mm
@matrixmodulator
@matrixmodulator Жыл бұрын
How do theses compare to the KZ ZVX or ZS 10?
@jari121
@jari121 Жыл бұрын
I have this and the ZVX, which is more fun to listen. It has more bass and not so much treble. Soundstage is great and imaging and resolution good. The PR2 has better resolution and imaging and faster and tighter bass.
@koningklootzak7788
@koningklootzak7788 Жыл бұрын
PR2 is just a little bit more difficult to drive? 94db PR2 requires a good dongle to drive, not a cheap USB dongle. 98db P1 max will let's you drive on smartphone without a dongle. 4db makes a huge difference.
@din4077
@din4077 Жыл бұрын
Guys I have a question, I bought these headphones but they are heard quite low, compared to the kz zs10 pro x, about 40% less volume, could someone confirm if that is ok or could you get a refund?
@AbdullahAcar
@AbdullahAcar Жыл бұрын
That's something they don't mention enough on reviews. Pr2's are quite hard to drive, one reviewer says it's even harder to drive than sennheiser HD 6xx which is a really hard to drive headphone. So you definitely need a seperate dongle to get enjoyable volume levels as i heard. And even though i don't have them, 94db sensitivity is just insase for an iem. That's the lowest one i've ever heard, so also the hardest to drive. Also the quality should affected on smartphone
@codsworth3996
@codsworth3996 Жыл бұрын
Obligatory comment to boost algorithm engagement.
@daf676
@daf676 Жыл бұрын
which one is better the khan or the pr2?? the price is the same and besides the tuning i kinda curious about the technical and the staging
@daf676
@daf676 Жыл бұрын
anyone can help me pls xD
@eludee119
@eludee119 Жыл бұрын
pr2
@LateBandwagon
@LateBandwagon Жыл бұрын
Pr2
@VanDungLe2510
@VanDungLe2510 Жыл бұрын
Definitely PR2. People compliment the Khan, but i don't. The bass is too boomy and blunt. The nozzle is way too big, the PR2 is a much better fit
@NewDarkKnight
@NewDarkKnight Жыл бұрын
Khan? Any V shaped iem is better than that unless you only listen to maybe edm. Bass tuck kills the khan. Nothing sounds natural.
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit Жыл бұрын
Linsoul is charging $52 and change and then there's tax. So they may be telling reviewers $42 but that's not what we're having to pay. Great review as always and pricing of course has nothing to do with you you're just going off what your told...
@jbjmx
@jbjmx Жыл бұрын
You can get it for 30 with hbb code
@leomedrano3332
@leomedrano3332 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make these bluetooth?
@GooseMcdonald
@GooseMcdonald Жыл бұрын
Yes you can Buy a Bluetooth adapter fron kz global
@ClassicalRomance
@ClassicalRomance Жыл бұрын
Your audio is distorted. :(
@hecntina
@hecntina Жыл бұрын
The PR2 sounds to me like a fixed version of the Dioko (which was way too ear-piercing in the upper highs for me). HBB seems to have HeyDay'ed the PR1 Pro to arrive at this more reference-sounding version... and one-upped Crin's Dioko in every way that matters to me.
@blorg8206
@blorg8206 Жыл бұрын
The PR2 V2 they removed the treble damping so it's way up now.
@JuniorCloudHouse
@JuniorCloudHouse 7 ай бұрын
Just EQ it down.@@blorg8206
@renatosabino6566
@renatosabino6566 Жыл бұрын
Is the Hiby FC1 dongle enough to push it?
@colinmartin9797
@colinmartin9797 Жыл бұрын
The only disappointment is that cable. I'll be throwing the rosefinch's looooovely cable on them when they arrive.
@randynguyen6402
@randynguyen6402 Жыл бұрын
not really a fan of kz but if this starts a sub 50$ planar war like how the chu's started the entry level 20$ iem war then I'm all for it
@liammadridista2395
@liammadridista2395 Жыл бұрын
Comparing it to terrible iem's doesn't make it good. How does it compare to all of the other iem's on your table
@alexc7857
@alexc7857 Жыл бұрын
Is Michael Jacksons voice considered female vocals
@NewDarkKnight
@NewDarkKnight Жыл бұрын
Maybe his 'he-he' can be considered as female vocal level high.
@profound369
@profound369 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@koningklootzak7788
@koningklootzak7788 Жыл бұрын
You still don't mention any negatives on the product you review. This is why you are not a good reviewer. Nobody agrees PR2 is the best planar from KZ.
@Meothui22
@Meothui22 Жыл бұрын
I have PR1, PR2 and several KZs with Fiio Q1 Mark II, BTR7, A5 and all balanced, single end cables. Did AB test for 3 days. PR2 is the worst. It sounds thin, not engaging, not exciting, lacks punch in the low end. It's just boring. Piano sounds the most boring with the PR2. The ZS10 Pro sounds much better than these. Regrets buying this.
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