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Nintendo and Sega have something in common: They both created their worst enemy.

Nintendo, Sega, and Sony all have amazing entrances into gaming, but Sony, at the time, truly was a rebel who defied the industry leaders and the odds. You felt that too back then. Their dominance of the industry makes it such a compelling story too. I do wish they'd remember those humble beginnings more nowadays.

Sega of Japan did a wonderful job of screwing things up at every turn.

I still love that the Playstation empire is the biggest and longest running revenge scheme in business history.

Lady Decade, there is a book I think you would really love that got a VERY limited publication via a kickstarter (unfortunately I don't know if it ever got a wider release) about 8 years ago called "Service Games - The Rise and Fall of SEGA" based on the old Eidolon's Inn website, but better organized and greatly expanded. For SEGA nerds it's basically a Bible, easily the most exhaustive and complete history of any gaming company ever documented in a single book. I mean... this book gets into tech specs of all the consoles and prototypes even. It covers everything from the pre-history of the company that set the stage for its founding on forward.

A Sega PlayStation would of been amazing. It would of been 2 of my favorite game consoles into one.

I have a lot of nostalgia for the PSX. It was definitely the best platform of that gen. So many great titles in all genres!

Sega Playstation?! Now,this is something I would be interested in

Lady! You look purple! Did you eat some forbidden candy from Willy Wonka?

SEGA and SIE are still tight to these days. When almost every third party abandoned PS3 including Namco (Bandai Namco) there was only SEGA who released their flagship titles on PS3. Virtua Fighter 5 was timed exclusive. More obscure titles like Valkyria Chronicles got moved from Xbox 360 to PS3 due to market shares in Japan. SIE went to SEGA to peak interest for Virtua Fighter again after they lost exclusivity of Tekken since Tekken 6 because of the merger between Namco and Bandai. Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown was going to release on PS4 as f2p model on PS Plus. SIE had a better idea how many downloads VF5US will get and it exceeded SEGA's expectations. 8 million downloads in one month was SIE dead on with their forecast. And that's what you call a partnership or even a relationship. Successful partnership leads to a relationship in the end.

I always felt this one move was the key turning point for Sega. If they had worked with Sony they would have dominated that generation of consoles. (Imagine Square's Final Fantasy 7 on a Sega console)

i'm trying to imagine a world where all Saturn games that we got would be played on a Sega Sony Playstion and it would have been HEAVEN :)

Imagine a world without wipeout! As a HUGE SEGA fan I still look at wipeout as the only racing game that ever rivalled SEGA rally. Are you 100% Sure you have not teamed up with Larry Bundy? I love his shows 🎉

There's a story of how Lamborghini started making cars. Apparently the founder (forgot his name) told Enzo Ferrari his cars where great, but they had weak clutches. Ferrari then yelled he built tractors, and he knew nothing of sports cars. This kinda reminded me of that. I love businesses started out of spite.

I remember when gaming historian also did a video about 3mistakes made by sega and hearing that this was one of the mistakes sega of Japan had did and to think gaming industry would’ve been different!

My fave console of all time is the Sega Master System.

Two ways to look at it really, had the Super Nintendo Playstation came out it would have wiped the floor with the Mega CD and any other competing system at the time...and the irony is Sony ultimately didn't need to get into bed with Nintendo OR Sega they ended up knocking out both competitors with the PS-One....the kind of success the Saturn and the N64 could only DREAM of!

It's both Nintendo's and SEGA's "fault" that Sony entered the console market but let's be fair, their entry was an amazing one.

I never understood this talking point that sega of Japan didnt push for 3d games at first for the sega Saturn.. um sega was the pioneer of 3d games on the arcades.. they influenced all their competitors with virtual fighter and Daytona.. why the hell wouldnt they not want their home console to do the same?

Just waiting on a Sega Saturn mini. I just want to play the Saturn version of Castlevania Symphony of the Knight.

Can't wait for the Super SaturnStation video to come.

Got my 3 plugs, my sandwich is devices is connected, got the 8 wires in, and now I can use my cd 32 now I can play night trap awww wtf is this crap and eject..

You know what would be really awesome? If Nintendo and Sega worked together as one company called Nintega!

These videos are so sadistic. Systems you'll never be able to play. One after another. Keep it coming.

I had a nostalgic overload just seeing those old retrogaming mags in Readly 🤯

sega has some great and creative gaming franchises, but the management in Japan in the 90s really put them in the sad state of the early 2000s. I really do wish the Sega/Sammy/Atlus company as a 3rd party developer a bright future.

I think it was e3 1995, not 1994 as e3 didn't start until then

BUT don’t forget that in the sega CD abd sega saturn you can find some sony chips inside them(depending per model) but still it proves it’s potential.

"Mistakes were made..." Love the Modern Vintage Gamer vibe there!! And wow, a Sega PlayStation...that would've been pretty sick...possibly moreso than the Nintendo PlayStation. And to think that Sega of Japan dissed Sony AND Sega of America as hard as they did...it's no wonder that Sony pretty much destroyed them, they had a chip on their shoulder the size of that very first model PS3!! I mean, Sony had mad beef, and they weren't gonna rest until they won. (Of course, the Sony Playstation DID have the concession of the 2D performance being a little bit on the wonky side due to the very limited RAM with no way to expand it) And win Sony did...Sega's just another third-party publisher, and Nintendo has been lagging behind the technological times since the Nintendo 64 and its cartridge format.

Crazy how After Sega became multiplatform It was their former rival Nintendo that had the best ports for their games and Sony with their worst (e.g. Sonic Heroes, 06)

Just imagine, for a moment, you & I are playing SEGA exclusives on a SEGA PlayStation 5, whike scratching our baffled heads at the idea of a Sony PlayStation. 😄

A Sonic and Crash Crossover would’ve been interesting. 🧐

Please do a video on the failed Sega-Bandai merger.

Nintendo Super Famicom is so legendary that it has two successors. A company successor in the Nintendo 64 and a spiritual successor in the Sony PlayStation.

you show some things, even me as huge Sega fan an collector have not seen !

Sony does seem to love their 'fuck you' price reveals. Glad to see it's been there from the very start.

I find it hilarious that Nintendo backstabbed Sony with Philips of all companies LMFAO

FF7 - one of the greatest games ever. Deep history, varied gameplay and a hell of a good soundtrack!

What game is that song from that starts at 10:05?? Been stuck on my mind all day

Another wicked video, keep up the work lady!

Everyone who screwed over Sony made both HUGE MISTAKES and HUGE GOOD. Sony Owns its own properties and can out game the competition.

I wonder what would of happened if Sega and Sony had joined forces, Would Microsoft still of entered the gaming space and how would that of affected the market? Would Nintendo continue competing in the console wars instead of carving out their own niche? How would the Sega Sony relationship of lasted, would Sony eventually absorb Sega and drop the Sega branding? I have so many questions, none of which are answerable without travelling to a parallel dimension.

Sega: rushes its console to the market, causes bad rep with publishers and stores Nintendo: takes all the time in the world to release its console, makes it cartridge based Damn, Sony didn't need to do anything. Nintendo and Sega gave them the W in the 5th gen on a silver platter Edit: oh, I almost forgot. The inner rivalry in Sega

At least Sega never had to work with Philips like Nintendo. I feel bad for Sega, Sony and Nintendo. also Microsoft doesn't stand a chance against Nintendo, Sega and Sony.

Love the content ❤️❤️❤️

I discovered your channel 2 days ago. I gotta say, I love your content. I quickly subscribed after a few minutes into one video. You will definitely grow quite a bit and will be big in no time. Keep up the good work!:

I love SEGA

Well everything happens for a reason, I wouldn't change the past. I loved most of all the systems I played in my life time so far, from Atari 2600 to Nintendo Switch. Good video.

My favorite new gaming channel! Nice video! 👏🏻

Quickly becoming one of favorite gamming channels

That is the most strange and interesting alternate reality line. I think that partnership wouldn't last for more than two generations. What always impressed me is how Sega of Japan could backfire thenselves that critically.

Keep up the good work lass and, as always, stay safe!

I'm soooo happy sony made there own console! Not giving sony the time of day was the greatest Things that ever happened!

I've been looking forward to this backstory being covered ty

Just wanted to say brilliant selection of peak Sega music throughout this video. Absolutely sublime.

0:02 your voice reminds me of Lucy Longhurst from that Tv show back in late 90s "Cybernet"

I’d never heard of this before! Super interesting.

I wish at the end when she answered the fan questiom about her favorite game and console she said " as many of you may already know, i dont play games, theyre for losers". 😂 that would have been a hilarious turn no one saw coming.

I remember the Nintendo Playstation as one of your last Uploads. I only knew about it from G4TV's Icons which was around at the time. I wish Nintendo went through with the Playstation Idea because now there was XBOX since the sixth generation which ended up three Consoles in the war. But I have heard about plans about SEGA's Playstation years later. In time I've been getting Playstations up to PS4 and PSVITA and the only Nintendo Systems I've currently have are Super Nintendo, Gameboy Advance SP, Nintendo DS and finally the first Edition Switch. I never got a 3DS (Though I wish I did), Switch Lite or OLED Version.

Great Stuff, as always!

I’m glad I found her channel. I’ve been going back through the backlogs and catching up!

1:25 When I read the name of the title before I watched the video, a record was scratched inside my head and went Full Metal Jacket! "What the hell is that!?"

Love the wrestling references. It would be cool if you did wrestling videos the same way. Like stuff that almost happened

5:26 obviously trying to hold it together to get the shot done, how many takes got blown from cracking up laughing? 🤣

I live in the USA and any Street Fighter fan knew back then that the Sega Saturn was the best system for home ports of Capcom's fighting games over the PS1. I couldn't afford either the PS1 or Saturn at the time, but if I did have the money, I would have given it to Sega over Sony any day. In fact, Sony had even left a bad taste in my mouth over some speech the head(?) of Sony made over how they didn't care that the PS1 didn't have sufficient RAM to be a 2D powerhouse because 2D games were "obsolete", and they were pushing for all 3D games moving forward. Excuse me Sony, but 2D is not obsolete or outdated or irrelevant. Sega still gets it when it came to 2D. Capcom fighting games was one of my biggest motivators for wanting a new system in the first place. The VS series, the Alpha/Zero series, even SSF2x... I wanted the Saturn for those games alone. And for Sony to say that 2D is no longer relevant was just a gigantic slap in the face to me. I'll decide if I like 3D games on my own terms, not because that's the only option you're giving me and that you're shoving it down my throat whether I like it or not. Screw you Sony. Screw... you! Guess what my next console ended up being after the SNES. Certainly not Sony! I managed to score me a Dreamcast later on along with Street Fighter Alpha 3, Marvel Vs. Capcom, and later Marvel Vs. Capcom 2. I gladly sacrificed having access to SquareSoft and Enix games on the PS1 in favor of having the latest and best versions of the Capcom fighting games on the DC, and it was disappointing that I completely missed out on the Saturn.

The readly link didn't work. Could be because i'm in Taiwan, but who knows? I wanted to read old editions of Super Play.

The funny thing about it is in 1994 the Sony PlayStation was just a Japanese video game system in the likes of the FM Towns Marty and Neo Geo 64. The systems out in 🇺🇸 or coming son was Atari Jaguar, Panasonic 3DO, Sega Saturn and Nintendo Project Reality AKA the future Nintendo Ultra 64.

Sega Saturn is still my favorite console to this day.

I knew I heard rumors about the Sega and PlayStation maybe team up. Thank you for proving I'm not totally insane

The PlayStation was my first console ever,my first game on the system was the Spider-Man 2000 game because my dad and uncle played it a lot when I was very little. My new number 1 favorite is FF7 and that was my also my very first Final Fantasy I have ever played,I love it more than Spider-Man 2000. 💯 MAJOR ASSUMPTION: The overworld is undeniably the open world but with random encounters,it is more fun equipping characters with their assigned materia. 😎👌🏻

But even with all the good moves Sony made over the years, they still never managed to cross-promote or create an ecosystem amongst their products and include the PlayStation. Only recently they've tried to have a special PS5/Bravia-ONLY HDR calibration feature. Where they did create proprietary peripherals, it was hardly the right kind. It most times made life harder for the user rather than easier.

So this woman is telling me, if I sign up for readily, I don't have to hear her talk? Sign me up! 👍🤣

This sounded much more equitable than the Nintendo/Sony contract. Speaking of which, again, Nintendo had reason to fear the contract Sony set up. Once again you embellish that for the sake of "Nintendo backstabbed Sony" (kind of true but utterly hyperbolic). Here's another one: had Nintendo not broken it off, Sony would have pulled a Daniel Plainview on them and drank their milkshake.

SoJ IS WHAT BROUGHT THE COMPANY DOWN AS A HARDWARE COMPANY

I never heard of this console ever. The funny part is the title itself for the fact Sega not only destroyed itself but also Sony destoryed it too with the sale numbers of PS1 and PS2 sales.

Way back when Atari was going to pair with Nintendo to distribute the FamiCom in the states as the "Atari entertainment system". Atari backed out of the deal and Atari is a company failed. Likewise Nintendo tried to pair with Sony, backed out and took a huge hit. Sega then almost paired with Sony backed out & failed as a company. I think the lesson here is if a company approaches a video game company with a potential working deal take it!

Sega just wrecked themselves with not invented here syndrome. Nintendo's refusal to move to non-cart and refusal to take a loss on hardware (n64) just began their slide.

i remember when i played FF7 a year late. i had no clue that a game could get so much clout. I wasnt aware that there were big hype parties back in 97 for Final Fantasy 7 and there was tons of lines with memorabilia being given away. i thought it was just a game that was released with promotion. so i understand why the 6 fans thinks its overrated but honestly that game gets the credit it deserves.

Favorite video game console: PS2 Favorite video game: EDF (Earth Defense Force)

I sense a pattern here. Is the next episode on the Microsoft Dreamcast 2?

Hi Miss Decade, thank you for the content & I want to say please continue your channel! Kiss

At 199.99 who didn't have a PlayStation. Great games and controller. N64 games category sucked.

Hi, another great vidéo 😀. But at 2:25, for a lot of vidéos from your channel when you talk face caméra, why the light is red ?

This story warms my heart 🏆

Sonic the hedgehog is one of my favorite Video games of all time

Sony saw that sega had 50 add ons planned and that both america and Japan weren't eye and eye on anything and said screw it were out!

"Mistakes were made..."

What if there was a Sega PlayStation, then we would have a Sega PlayStation 5.

Man I would’ve liked a Sony Dreamcast 🙃

If the Sega Playstation had came out then the gaming scene would have been very different than how it was. With those 2 companies working together then history would have been different and who knows maybe it would have been Nintendo that would have left the gaming scene and would have just made games

Hellooooo there Lady Decade ! Saw some of your videos already and just subscribed ! :-) One thing more. Have you getting thinner ? You look quite stunning ! ;-) Keep up the good work !

We've all heard of the Nintendo PlayStation and the Sega PlayStation. But what about the Sony PlayStation?

i think underdog of sony benefitted in not having to satisfy two competing ideologies (japanese/u.s.) as did nintendo & sega. The over confidence of the two then market leaders will also have helped.

By around 2001, Sega cut down on producing software for Dreamcast and ventured out to more platforms via Crazy Taxi ports. The Sega-PlayStation partnership was a thing not only for the first few Yakuza video games and Virtua Fighter 4 on PS2, but also a series of classic Sega game re-releases on the same platform and a Sega Saturn controller for PlayStation 2. If retro-bit and Sega made reproduction Mega Drive and Sega Saturn controllers for their respective platforms, then I just hope one day the two make reproduction Sega Saturn controllers for PlayStation 2.

you are great thankyou

Please do a video on the MSU-1 virtual chip as well, would be a good sequel video to this and the previous one :)

Wow! Nice vídeo! 😄👏🏻

it kind of reminds me of the time nintendo approached atari about partnering up with them to launch the NES in north america & atari said no & then years later sega approached atari with the genesis/mega drive & atari said no

Strange bedfellows indeed.