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THE COLECO CHAMELEON SCAM!!! - An Insane Crowd Funding Scandal !? - Retro Gaming History

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Lady Decade

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In today's video Lady Decade discusses the history of the Coleco Chameleon, the infamous console that was funded on Kickstarter and Indigogo before the campaign was cancelled completely after it was revealed to all just be a big scam. Lets revisit this ridiculous tale.
Guest Voice Work From
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Top Hat Gaming Man - / tophatgamingmanchannel
Exploding Music Syndrome - / explodingmusicsyndrome
Edited by Ryan of Exploding Music Syndrome
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Footage and Image Credit Source List
• Top 25 ColecoVision Games
Top 25 ColecoVision Games
65Gamerguy
• Coleco Chameleon Inter...
Coleco Chameleon Interview & Demonstration - New York Toy Fair 2016
Pegwarmers
• Coleco Chameleon at To...
Coleco Chameleon at Toy Fair
Tom’s Guide
• COLECO CHAMELEON - NY ...
COLECO CHAMELEON - NY TOY FAIR - FAKE PROTOTYPE ON SHOW
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• Coleco Chameleon New Y...
Coleco Chameleon New York Toy Fair Video 3 Sydney Hunter
RetroGaming
• The Ultimate Early 80s...
The Ultimate Early 80s Arcade Tribute
Patrick Scott Patterson
www.colecocham...
• Top 20 BEST Indie Game...
Top 20 BEST Indie Games of the Decade You Should Own
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• Tiny Knight Gameplay [...
Tiny Knight Gameplay [PC 1080p]
TheBlueDragon
• The COLECO Chameleon P...
The COLECO Chameleon Prototype is a SCAM?!
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@TipsterLIVE
@TipsterLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this whole ordeal. It was quite the interesting footnote in the history of the retro gaming community.
@Old_Man_Jay
@Old_Man_Jay 2 жыл бұрын
Sup tipster. Fancy seein you around here
@chrisd6287
@chrisd6287 2 жыл бұрын
It's still making headlines, lol
@electronash
@electronash 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Tipster. It's been a while. lol At least something positive came from the whole Coleco saga - it was very good comedy for a while.
@electronash
@electronash 2 жыл бұрын
15:01 - The funniest part there, was I think it was either Albert of atari-forum, or kevtris himself who identified that DVR capture card from the Coleco "clear case" photos. The post on Facebook from Mike got deleted very soon after. lol
@NoelComiX
@NoelComiX 2 жыл бұрын
Going back to your roots tipster?
@tomoyaokazakiremiejordan756
@tomoyaokazakiremiejordan756 2 жыл бұрын
lady decade really REALLY sounds like a narrator from a late 90's ~ early 2000's pc console gaming show (gamespot, extended play, electric playground, gaming in the clinton years etc.)
@douglasboyle6544
@douglasboyle6544 8 ай бұрын
This is the first video I watched from her and you're 100% right! When it started I thought I was getting playback from an old show as an opener
@decoren45
@decoren45 2 жыл бұрын
Never stop making these videos. In the American army we are old we always wait for you new videos currently in Korea you're awesome!
@LadyDecade
@LadyDecade 2 жыл бұрын
That's very cool, thank you! X
@thekornreeper
@thekornreeper 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@pabloignacioscaletta
@pabloignacioscaletta 2 жыл бұрын
@@LadyDecade How long did Coleco make consoles? Aside from the Colecovision, I don't know of other consoles made by Coleco. P. S: Nice touch this inclusion of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 in the intro. YEEEEAAAAHHHH!, as Top Hat Gaming Man would say.
@suntannedduck2388
@suntannedduck2388 2 жыл бұрын
@@pabloignacioscaletta other than the ColecoVision, a Sega/Coleco Sonic in 2006, probably similar timing to the HyperScan by Mattel I'd say for a cheaper console during that era (Pocket Gear in Europe, PlayPal in Canada) handheld having 20 repackaged Game Gear/Master System games offered so I think only Coleco in name or something else they contributed *shrugs*. Those are the only two that come to mind other than the newer Coleco return but I don't know enough as not researched much more than the surface level of that Atari (even if not the same one but keeping the name but still publishing games) and Mattel (obviously toys) it's clear what they have done but no clue who is keeping Coleco alive that keeps the name and releases things at the right time they see a need to that is gaming related at least. Not sure about their other ventures.
@Swanlord05
@Swanlord05 Жыл бұрын
​@@LadyDecade ....cute buttered balloons
@Yakobu90
@Yakobu90 2 жыл бұрын
I applied to be a developer for the Retro VGS Chameleon by sending an e-mail basically saying "Hi I've never written a single program in my life but I'd like to give it a go can I be a developer please? " and they said yes.
@Dreamwriter4242
@Dreamwriter4242 2 жыл бұрын
What else would they say? The Chameleon was going to be a collection of recreated retro game consoles, if you wanted to make a modern SNES game or whatever they wouldn't have had to do anything at all until your game was done and ready to be manufactured.
@romeisfallingagain
@romeisfallingagain 2 жыл бұрын
wow. this is a textbook example why >i never crowdfund projects >i never buy early access games on steam >i never buy ANYTHING until it has been released and i can analyse peoples reception to the product.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@UberNeuman
@UberNeuman 2 жыл бұрын
How anyone could see that reperposed Atari Jag shell and not see a scam is astounding.
@romerogoon
@romerogoon 2 жыл бұрын
Bizarrely, that's probably the least sus bit of this video. The mould has been successfully used in to house dental machinery and hotel room set-top boxes in the past. It is indeed an odd choice for a gaming platform though.
@yuri53122
@yuri53122 2 жыл бұрын
@@romerogoon the fact that they tracked down the molds leads me to believe that someone there started with good intentions, but got overwhelmed and just dug themselves deeper and deeper into a hole they couldn't get out of.
@PatTheNESpunk
@PatTheNESpunk 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this... interesting.
@bradpoole238
@bradpoole238 2 жыл бұрын
Lol they used the jaguar lmao
@Horzzo
@Horzzo 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been a good competitor for Amico.. right?
@Dikwili
@Dikwili 2 жыл бұрын
IAN!…
@johanpeiper5908
@johanpeiper5908 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats just a jag lol..scamers.
@markjenniferwolkotte8221
@markjenniferwolkotte8221 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Pat, what are your thoughts about this one?
@PopeCop
@PopeCop 2 жыл бұрын
You always manage to talk about obscure gaming history facts that none of the other channels are talking about. I had thought there was nothing more to discover until I stumbled on your channel. Great work and great research!
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here to further my education in video-game history from professor Decade. Man that ATARI Jaguar body has gotten around. ATARI sold the molds to a medical equipment company and it was turned into a defibrillator or something like that and then it's back here. Also I love hearing Slopes reading for you. I love that the Retro games community does that so much. Watching nostalgia nerd, LGR, Kim Justice, slopes, Octavia, you and others and hearing each of you guys throughout everyone's work is great!
@hardkoregamer1981
@hardkoregamer1981 2 жыл бұрын
It's people like that who ruin the creditability of any crowd funding site and the trust of the retro gaming community from backing projects on them.
@timgerritsen7579
@timgerritsen7579 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying the 'US home console crash' for modern audiences. As someone who lived through it, my friends and I simply had moved on from the limitations of the cartridge based systems of the time toward computers- you'll note that sales of home computers at this time were very healthy and growing while the home consoles of the time fell off a cliff. (My best friend had a ColecoVision- and I loved it, but my hard earned cash went to a new computer- not a new console).
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
More accurately "North American" as Canada was affected too
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 2 жыл бұрын
Forget Lara croft , you have dug up some great gaming relics of past. I'm seriously wowed by your research , knowledge and presentations. 👌🏾👌🏾
@Ayixlia
@Ayixlia 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad I invested in the Ouya and the Evercade VS and not the Coleco Chameleon. I always knew something was off about that kick starter.
@JustChrisWillDoTa
@JustChrisWillDoTa 2 жыл бұрын
I'd forgotten all about this. I followed the news about it on eurogamer at the time, and when I clicked on the vid I was thinking "wasn't that the one with the capture card in the prototype?" LOL. Nice video.
@leecollins5479
@leecollins5479 2 жыл бұрын
you should do a video on the vega+ scam
@Takeshi357
@Takeshi357 2 жыл бұрын
And now they're heading off for an entirely new kind of scam with the Amico!
@clouds-rb9xt
@clouds-rb9xt 2 жыл бұрын
name?
@Takeshi357
@Takeshi357 2 жыл бұрын
@@clouds-rb9xt ...Intellivision Amico?
@SparkedEd
@SparkedEd 2 жыл бұрын
From a business standpoint I can't understand how people do this stuff. They have to know they'd be found out and it's just not sustainable to keep operating in a scammy manner.
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 2 жыл бұрын
Just yikes. This is a mess. Cannot fathom, how many people must have put their own money into this. Hopefully they were refunded every dollar / pound/ etc More console coverage, yes please
@TheVoidofNothing11
@TheVoidofNothing11 2 жыл бұрын
No refunds. Took the money and ran.
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoidofNothing11 aw fudge 🤦‍♂️
@Dreamwriter4242
@Dreamwriter4242 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody had their money taken, the IndieGogo campaign wasn't successful, it was the Kickstarter style where they only got the money if they reached their goal.
@TheVoidofNothing11
@TheVoidofNothing11 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dreamwriter4242 Okay, well I stand corrected if that's true. I thought I'd heard people lost money, but I could be wrong.
@BananaTV1978
@BananaTV1978 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! "North American console crash" .... Really nice to hear that stated as opposed to "video game crash of 1983" Thanks!!
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
It was a video game crash, in 1983, and it was the only one (right?). So "The video game crash of 1983" is perfectly accurate.
@BananaTV1978
@BananaTV1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth There wasn't one in the UK or Europe though Bryan. If you're purely talking about North America then yes absolutely it's accurate, but if you're talking more globally then it needs a more accurate name. I know it's semantics, but it always irks when it's just assumed the crash was global. 1983 was a stellar sales year in the UK, things slowed in 84/85 due to the amount of systems and games and some of the "first wave" companies like Dragon and Jupiter went bust but that was more due to competition than a market crash.
@fuckingwebsite1
@fuckingwebsite1 2 жыл бұрын
The production quality is phenomenal as always
@krazproductions
@krazproductions 2 жыл бұрын
LADY DECADE PLEASE READ!!! I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS!!! As a proud owner of an Atari VCS. I can definitely say that the condole is very slept on. It's a console first and a PC 2nd. Further more, as a college student, I can do my college assignments on the chrome side of it, and then switch over for modern or retro games when I want to unwind. I am choosing to run the Window Operating system via external hardrive. And it shows amazing promise! However, no upgrade is needed to do what I mentioned above. ~ Sincerely, a long time Follower, Kazdan.
@TetsuDeinonychus
@TetsuDeinonychus 2 жыл бұрын
I really want one of those. It looks like such a cool system.
@krazproductions
@krazproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@TetsuDeinonychus oh dude. The system is awesome. I'm not just saying that as an Atari fan boy. But as a gamer, techy, and fan boy, it meets alot of my curiosities and needs. So I am extremely satisfied with my console. Yes the price is a bit high, but it can do so much. They just stared with adding emulators for 7800 and DOS. So those classics from the 80s and early 90s PC days are also an option in the near future.
@turret72
@turret72 2 жыл бұрын
I did three videos on the Atari VCS as I was one of the backers. They are on my channel. If you want to talk to someone about VCS experience let me know. I also have an Evercade of my own. It is a good system. I am invested in the Amico as well and look to do an Amico vs VCS video when time permits….once the Amico arrives.
@starsINSPACE
@starsINSPACE 2 жыл бұрын
Shame it was a scam - the Coleco Chameleon name was really cool.
@franksmith7271
@franksmith7271 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't just a name tho, it was a statement of intent.
@ressljs
@ressljs 2 жыл бұрын
I just wonder was the whole thing intended as a scam from the beginning. Or was it a case of incompetent people with big ideas who then lied to buy time, hoping they could eventually get something put together.
@ccricers
@ccricers 2 жыл бұрын
It's just all weird to me. The fake prototype boards, the back-stabbing and false promises. Nostalgia can sometimes be a drug and this is what you get when people OD on it.
@craigwillsmith354
@craigwillsmith354 2 жыл бұрын
What another cracking retro gaming fact video, love how its content that not alot off people know about, it's different but in a good way 😃, love this channel for retro gaming nostalgia and learning something new
@Psycheitout
@Psycheitout 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your point that the term 'video game crash' is a misnomer. Describing a large dip in sales for a couple game consoles as a massive worldwide market crash is probably the most American thing I've ever heard.
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
It only really happened in America. Sure, some consoles came to an end internationally, but everywhere else in the world carried on just fine. The 2600 was still going strong outside of the US, and we had PC's for gaming , like the C64, which was taking off around then.
@Psycheitout
@Psycheitout 2 жыл бұрын
@@RMoocher Whatchu talking bout America IS THE WORLD!!!
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
@@Psycheitout Hahaha, please. You guys would often drop support early for consoles/computers, even US made ones, that would still be selling strong elsewhere in the world!
@blmartech
@blmartech 2 жыл бұрын
@@RMoocher that was called our leftovers
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
@@blmartech gaming world doesn't revolve around you yanks!
@richardg5301
@richardg5301 2 жыл бұрын
Initially the idea of the Retro VGS was pitched as an FPGA console that you would buy modules for to play different console cartridges. But FPGA was way too expensive at that point and the concept kept going downhill from there.
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 2 жыл бұрын
and "they" had only one developer.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 2 жыл бұрын
Classic case of "fool me once."
@adultmoshifan87
@adultmoshifan87 2 жыл бұрын
With the gaming market in such a bad state at the time, I REALLY wanted this system to be real! Nintendo were giving no details on their NX console, the PS4 and Xbox One rely heavily on updates and patches and handheld gaming had gone down the toilet with Sony neglecting the Vita, 3rd parties neglecting the 3DS and freemium gaming taking up about 90% of the market! Fortunately, the Evercade was announced in 2019 and released in 2020, it's the kind of system we've needed for EONS!
@colinewan2320
@colinewan2320 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know which was worse the chameleon or the Ouya. At least stadia actually exists, whilst it is not very good it does in someway work after a fashion
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 2 жыл бұрын
The Ouya team not only released a product, but actually believed that a market existed. There's no sin in being wrong.
@francisvebert5830
@francisvebert5830 2 жыл бұрын
Original content !👍👍👍👏👏 very very good job!
@gaetan4164
@gaetan4164 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please do an episode on the Colecovision. Those late-second generation consoles are really interesting and little talked about.
@grinbrothers
@grinbrothers 2 жыл бұрын
20:16 - I was going to bring up the Evercade as an effectively successful version of what the Coleco Chameleon was setting out to do so it's wonderful to see it got a good mention here. Thanks for the indepth exploration of the Coleco Chamelon; I was only familiar with the SNES Junior fake-out event so it was fascinating to learn it's other controversies.
@lemonfraid8136
@lemonfraid8136 2 жыл бұрын
I just acquired a ColecoVision, and I'm not terribly familiar with it's history. So I would love a Coleco video.
@SupremeNerd
@SupremeNerd 2 жыл бұрын
There's plenty of em here on KZfaq
@dmcpcrt
@dmcpcrt 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your take on the Amico as that is ongoing! Your videos are inspiring, thanks for the amazing content!
@Kenjifoxhog5437
@Kenjifoxhog5437 2 жыл бұрын
The Coleco chameleon was inspired by the Atari Jaguar the most misunderstood console in all days.
@therealmakmillion
@therealmakmillion 2 жыл бұрын
0:30 I will never get over that feeling and I will never adopt (paid) digital formats.
@gamepad3173
@gamepad3173 2 жыл бұрын
'certified snake oil' is what Review Tech USA called and to me that's what it is.
@90sGasPrices
@90sGasPrices 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe Mike intentionally ran a scam for profit. Im convinced he just underestimated the cost to manufacture the system. First off, I believe mike owned the hardware to make Atari Jaguar shells long before the retro VGS was announced. He had been selling them to modders long before the VGS came into play, so it only makes sense that the existing tools that he already owned would be used to make the console shell. The system was announced as a new system with a jaguar body. It was never planned to look like anything other than a jaguar. Him already having the jaguar shell machines is what got the entire project started. With respect to the hardware, The retro VGS was initially planned to have an FPGA chip in it. It was meant to be Able to emulate hardware from 8-bit all the way to 32-bit. The problem is that FPGA chips were significantly more expensive than software emulation. I believe he grossly underestimated the cost of putting an FPGA chip in a startup console, and THATS why the price skyrocketed. I remember somewhere in the middle of the scramble to figure out price, he posted on FB that he was willing to scrap the idea of an FPGA system that can emulate PlayStation hardware in place of something that was strictly 16 bit, purely because people were so mad about the new price. After that, I lost the plot myself. I heard him discuss the console on a few podcasts and I think he became increasingly frustrated with the venture. I remember the indigogo needed to raise about 2million to work and I think it barely raised something like $100k. So yeah, I get what it looks like. I’m just saying that I Was personally pretty stoked for the console and researched it pretty closely. I didn’t see a liar in mike at the time, and I’m still convinced that a few miscalculations and mistakes ended up LOOKING a lot like a huge web of lies.
@thaneros
@thaneros 2 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to this system. The Jaguar design of the console was sick.
@SharifSourour
@SharifSourour 2 жыл бұрын
Completely ridiculous! Having gone to college for computer engineering, I could have made one myself. This was completely inexcusable but not surprising.
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know... I'm also a CoE, and spent years developing for an embedded gaming platform. It really feels like it should be easier than it is, and that first 90% of a design can go so smoothly, but that last 10%, esp if you are dealing with custom boards, chips, firmware, and a distributed team, can really be a nightmare. We would go through months or even years of prototypes, having to reject and redo whole subsystems, and we really tried to use as much off the self stuff as possible. I always thought they felt like a company that was trying, but vastly underestimated how difficult a task it really was and got caught up in the cycle of 'if we can just keep people engaged, we can really wow them when the revised board comes back!'. It can be a really vicious cycle to get caught in.
@SharifSourour
@SharifSourour 2 жыл бұрын
@@neeneko Yes it's true that when we get to the final stage it always seems like the work is exponential, but at the same time if you have been concentrating and driving momentum into the project up to that point, it should not be as much of a hurdle as having to deal with those final details cold. My impression is a lack of focus and direction making it too difficult to refine one idea. If you are starting as simple as possible and building up to only your needs, regardless of conventions and testing at every step of the way, the need for so many prototypes should dwindle as you would then introduce less complications, points of error and confusion.
@mattuw82
@mattuw82 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! He could have just bought an off the shelf single board computer like an odroid or a beagle bone and run RetroArch. Getting cartridges to work would have taken some doing, but he could have easily dispelled rumors that the hardware was fake.
@SharifSourour
@SharifSourour 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattuw82 Exactly!
@gbraadnl
@gbraadnl 2 жыл бұрын
Love the rectified meaning of the 'video game crash' as every time people from the US mention this it is hard to relate to it. It never happened in Europe...
@maverickhunter24
@maverickhunter24 2 жыл бұрын
True but it happened outside of Europe, such as Canada north American would be accurate.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that it was the one video game crash that happened in 1983 renders "1983 video game crash" completely accurate. Hell, it's arguably the only video game crash that's ever happened, so just "the video game crash" is correct too.
@RetroRespawn
@RetroRespawn 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. While the ZX Vega Plus scandal had us distracted, the Chameleon merrily swindled everyone. To my knowledge the Jaguar mould was used in the Chameleons design and... A dental camera. What a shame, since I think it was a really good looking form factor.
@McOuchies
@McOuchies 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being super hyped about this console only to be heartbroken by the bad news, even if it was pretty vague/blunt at the time...
@MechaAkuma
@MechaAkuma 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to you covering what a scam the Amico Intellivision is
@jacobreed47
@jacobreed47 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this console. She explains why perfectly.
@computerboy2k
@computerboy2k 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Fyre Festival, but you didn’t even get cheese sandwiches…
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you called the crash of '83 a home console crash because I've always been confused about how it was supposed to be a crash when all the quality games and such kept right on being developed for arcades and pc. Basically the thing that crashed was shovelware and junk console so more like a cleaning of house.
@sweetfeathery
@sweetfeathery 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say make a Amico video but the plot thickens daily..
@danestegman155
@danestegman155 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I remember this very story very well! I have been reading an excellent book called " Smoke And Mirrors: The Rise And Fall of a Serial Antipreneur" by Mike James. It tells the story of Mike Kennedy and the Coleco Chameleon debacle! Very good book!
@majames
@majames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dane. Glad you enjoyed it.
@papawshane
@papawshane 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see a video on this machine/scam. The whole thing was just insane haha. Thank you!
@jagtaggart936
@jagtaggart936 2 жыл бұрын
As a Jaguar fan I so badly wanted this to succeed but wow was it a hilarious dumpster fire. Thanks for covering this!
@jamescameron149
@jamescameron149 2 жыл бұрын
Got a lot of the love for the channel. Mainly the depth and investigation connected to the content. You keep making them, I'll keep watching them. I'd quite like that Evercade console BTW... Hopefully you get a review unit...
@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun
@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfuly the Evercade is going quite well for us game cartridge loving folk.
@WillSams
@WillSams 2 жыл бұрын
The EverCade is just a software emulation machine running a skinned Retroarch. I still don't know what's the appeal of that machine. Easy money on their part, I guess.
@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun
@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun 2 жыл бұрын
@@WillSams Well if you don't see the appeal of cheap collectable licensed retro game cartridges might as well stop paying for videogames altogether.
@ilexgarodan
@ilexgarodan 2 жыл бұрын
Lady Decade, Canada was hit by the crash in '83. So, it wouldn't really be accurate to say it was the United States console crash.
@Old_Man_Jay
@Old_Man_Jay 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it would be better to say the North American crash?
@jonleibow3604
@jonleibow3604 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that a lot on KZfaq with video game-related stuff in general. Like people saying "it was called the MegaDrive everywhere outside the US." Uhh, nope, we had the Genesis, too.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
When it's something bad, it's "American" or "US." When it's something good or neutral, it's likely to be "North American." I'm over it 🤷🏻‍♂️
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know it affected Canada too. Thanks for the info. So US/Canadian video game crash.
@Magisktification
@Magisktification 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonleibow3604 Only heard North America my self, since thats the same region anyway.
@budgetcoinhunter
@budgetcoinhunter 2 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling it was going to be troubled when I saw it looked like a freakin' Atari Jaguar.
@zackschilling4376
@zackschilling4376 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, The Mysterious Mr Lee, ninja engineer and crackerjack programmer. Funny thing is they had a real crackerjack programmer - Kevtris. But he wasnt as stupid and asked questions and that was a No-No in Retroland. Great video. Anyone who wants more info check out, of course Pat & Ian but dont forget about Stop, Drop & Retro as his stuff was great, too. Dangerous Analyst has great coverage, too.
@rickweis2787
@rickweis2787 2 жыл бұрын
Not so Mysterious here in the Northwest, Big time scammer and still around here last I heard and Lee is not his real name.
@OnlyEpicEmber
@OnlyEpicEmber 2 жыл бұрын
I don't feel like there's enough Colecovision/intelevision console coverage on KZfaq
@theoldpcgamer77
@theoldpcgamer77 2 жыл бұрын
As a UK gamer i never touched any console until the 1990 era with import PC Engine, Megadrive, Neo Geo and Super Famicom. It was all arcades and home computers in the 80's. I would have no nostalgia for this type of kickstarter console unlike an american who i guess played these late 70's and 80's consoles.
@jasonjones7461
@jasonjones7461 Жыл бұрын
I knew I had heard of this scam before! Then at 6:25 I recognized the voice and remembered it was Slopes Gameroom kickscammer video where I heard about it.
@shadowflash705
@shadowflash705 2 жыл бұрын
Phantom, Chameleon. It's all about one thing - ship's name can tell you how well will it sail.
@metronome8471
@metronome8471 2 жыл бұрын
"Because this entire world will disappear alongside you!" - Rei Ryghts to the Coleco Chameleon.
@EmeraldWarrior420
@EmeraldWarrior420 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as they usually are. Just wanted to say: While it is correct that home computer gaming didn't suffer, arcades totally did suffer alongside home consoles during the gaming crash in the U.S.
@singletona082
@singletona082 2 жыл бұрын
First off: Thank you for the correction about the american console crash vs world wide affairs. Second: I remember this shit I remember me and a few friends looking at this and 'grab popcorn and watch everything burn.'
@joshmetat
@joshmetat 2 жыл бұрын
The KZfaq algorithm has been good to you. im not a big gamer but this is the second day I see you on my feed. I enjoy your videos, liked and subscribed.
@clintgardner7422
@clintgardner7422 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, you always get straight to the part of the story without going on rumbling abt nonsence talking. I hope that you never stop making these videos thanks.
@veritassyfer1185
@veritassyfer1185 2 жыл бұрын
No way I would play with 3 million like that. How you plan on selling a product but never met the person who designed it? come on now.
@tylerkobelia
@tylerkobelia 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I like industry documentaries. I’ve never even heard of this console.
@ratt8745
@ratt8745 2 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget about the Collectorvision Phoenix console! It is the ONLY true recent Colecovision console that rose from the ashes after that chameleon debacle. I own one and it's amazing!!
@michasj9
@michasj9 2 жыл бұрын
We had played the Donkey Kong in the past. 40 years like one day now have passed. I'm a fan (a fan) of retrogaming. I had played (had played) on Nintendo. But I want to try another. Like Coleco! Like Coleco! Cole-, Cole-, Cole-, Coleco Chameleon! You try and go! You try and go! Gaming would be easy if copyright laws were repealed! And we could play (legally) on our PC!
@drmgiverdrmgiver5335
@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 2 жыл бұрын
Now you need to cover the Dreamcast 2 drama.
@noyukikun
@noyukikun 2 жыл бұрын
this was the thing that made people very very weary of things like this and is why the polymega was extremely scrutinized in the first place
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK 2 жыл бұрын
Someone that highlighted that the video game crash of 83 was a North American issue only. I think I'm in love.
@christopherlesage5995
@christopherlesage5995 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Thank you for your effort in making this. Please keep up the good work.
@floydjohnson7888
@floydjohnson7888 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Kennedy should consider himself lucky that the stakes were relatively low - otherwise he'd get branded "the Elizabeth Holmes of the retrogaming world" , in that he apparently thought stagecraft would cover a critical lack of know-how.
@carminethewolf
@carminethewolf 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, the guy behind the kickstarter said he never met the person that made the console or knew where he lived? Didn't he say previously that the same person dropped the console prototype round at his own house and told him not to let anyone photograph the back of it?
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lady Decade for the coverage on this crazy console controversy! Never knew this thing existed!
@DaveVoyles
@DaveVoyles 2 жыл бұрын
This has scam written all over it. I remember watching the drama unfold. So this guy received millions, had absolutely zero clue about hardware, and completely outsourced all of the work to someone he's never met before. Sounds legit. He always had an excuse. "Oh, someone else plugged it in" "I never met the guy", "I was told this card IS the system...." Do you always hand hundreds of thousands of dollars to someone you've never worked with? That's not the sign of a guy managing a solid project. Then the fact that they "split amicably", lol. This guy either screwed you or you screwed everyone else.
@brendens5961
@brendens5961 2 жыл бұрын
That's wack. Mini SNES running pretty much a mod.
@kaibomo
@kaibomo 2 жыл бұрын
Oh so they made a console based on that Gary Numan song 'Music For Chameleons' 😂
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 2 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about this, but the moment I saw the rebranded jaguar it all came back to me. Talking about scammers if you think only internet people are gullible enough to fund this kind of schemes, just remember that even bit shot wall st brokers invested in the failed Nikola hidrogen fueled truck company.
@BurningRobotOil
@BurningRobotOil 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've had little dealings with Mike here and there. He proposed if I make a Game Gavel intro on my KZfaq show, he could arrange some kind of payment or monetization. That never happened. Another proposal came right after his Toyfare incident. I was invited to join him at a restaurant with his wife and his "team". At the time, he was still doing his Retro magazine, and asked me if I wanted to contribute. This time I refused but only because I was too busy with my own show to do any sort of contribution.
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
Also, you are spot on with your description of " US home console crash". Don't let these yanks dissuade you!
@robertrada4783
@robertrada4783 2 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is a farce. There was no crash. There was just the Commodore 64 kicking everyone’s ass into oblivion. In 1983, I was playing Avenger until I was cross eyed.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
Tf are you on about? Does anyone call it "global video game crash" or "worldwide" or anything like that? No. Just "video game crash of 1983," which is exactly what it was
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertrada4783 yep, in 1983, the C64 was getting massive worldwide, as was the Spectrum ZX in UK and parts of Europe. The Famicom came out in Japan that year and was an immediate hit. The Atari 2600 was still going strong elsewhere in the world, even with Atari's financial problems back in the US. Atari supported it up until 1992. What does that tell you!? LoL
@RMoocher
@RMoocher 2 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth but calling it "video game crash of 1983" implies it was affecting the world. It didn't!
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
@@RMoocher uh which part of "video game crash of 1983" implies anything about its affected area? Does "the solar eclipse of July 22, 2009" imply it affected the whole world? Didn't think so.
@SunburntPrints
@SunburntPrints 2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel, amazed that you have all the systems that you reference! Any chance of a video on your collection?
@LadyDecade
@LadyDecade 2 жыл бұрын
Not really thought about it to be honest, I don't think it will my channel at the moment in all honesty xx
@720jlconner
@720jlconner 7 ай бұрын
Swear that's Slopes voice doing some of the narrating. Hahaha it was. Great video.
@Shinmsl
@Shinmsl 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea of this whole fiasco! I definitely be interested in seeing more of these independent new console projects, failed or not
@gamepad3173
@gamepad3173 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I may pick up an evercade myself.
@labnine3362
@labnine3362 11 ай бұрын
Plenty of retro-inspired games on the Nintendo Switch. Please don't fall for these scams people! Anyone involved in these scams should be ridiculed without restraint.
@WillieD
@WillieD 2 жыл бұрын
Holy hell, I've never heard of this but what a mess. Thanks KZfaq algorithm for recommending this. Definitely subbing! Keep up these videos 🤘🏽🤘🏽
@Azziee
@Azziee 2 жыл бұрын
Video on Atari box and the other two "retro" consoles sounds like fun.
@boredstudent
@boredstudent Жыл бұрын
The sad part was that the Coleco Chameleon was actually good on paper. I mean, making a console for retro gamers made by retro gamers was pretty cool. Taking us back to the 16 bit era of gaming wasn't a bad idea. But they really did us dirty.
@HoosierLine
@HoosierLine Жыл бұрын
I originally wanted the Coleco Chameleon until things started running amok. When things started to look off of when they decided to use the Atari Jaguar console shell. And it followed this huge circuit board which supposedly was the game system they were going to have to work down to fit inside the game console shell. That board was twice the size of it and had too many of the wrong components on it for a gaming console. Thank you for the hustle and scam Mr. Mike Kennedy. Apparently Tommy Tellirico learned from him well. But not well enough not to get caught. These two guys have been in cahoots for years.
@SweetTodd
@SweetTodd 16 күн бұрын
I'm okay with all digial gaming. I just hope companies can't just take them away our media at a moment's notice like some demented magic trick.
@johnknight9150
@johnknight9150 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos on the "American game console crash" distinction.
@OmarAlikaj
@OmarAlikaj 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting DJ Slope to lend a voice in this video.
@MilanStojakov
@MilanStojakov 2 жыл бұрын
Of course we want video on that coleco!!!
@jarmend363
@jarmend363 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised netflix hasn't done a doc on this
@marklechman2225
@marklechman2225 11 ай бұрын
I was never an investor, but I remember when it was announced, it was pretty exciting as that was around the time when retro was really starting to take off, but the cottage industry hadn’t really sprung up around it yet so (at the time) it was seen as a pioneer in the arena of kickstarter retro gear.
@chase36chase
@chase36chase 2 жыл бұрын
love this channel!
@jontheriot6752
@jontheriot6752 2 жыл бұрын
Born in 82, I hear it alot in your videos 😅 What a year♥️
@Gabri-El.Matthew
@Gabri-El.Matthew 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard about this!!! Your presentations are always very well scripted, directed, edited, and produced. Always and forever a flawless video. I genuinely love hearing about the retro gaming scene. Even more so, when it comes to things that I've never heard about. When someone says you're not a gamer girl, they are technically right though... You are a Gamer Woman! But, that is only one aspect, out of many, about yourself. I don't understand why a very small amount of people have to be so negative towards you. I get if someone doesn't like your video as a whole or [a] certain aspect(s),
@Skorpio420
@Skorpio420 2 жыл бұрын
Any plans on doing a video on the Collectorvision Phoenix?
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