So accurate

The fact that they moved on without realising that she was there all the time, and still was there in the end is really sad

@@leonardohenrique5172 Yes. I do wonder though, if Alice committed suicide and if this was her mortal sin. There was nothing that Alice could have done in her life to deserve this punishment. Of course, I'm only applying this religious definition to this fictional movie.

Nah this movie scared the living shit outta me as a teen

@@LuCiGough maybe she did kill herself. She knew her death was coming but not when or how. Maybe she couldn’t do it anymore, and she drowned herself

@Slender man😈 stupid

@Slender man😈 I have. It insulted my mother, so I called upon Thor and he granted me Mjolnir to slay it. I now have its featureless head on a pike. The only drawback was the condition that they make a horrible movie version where it gives LSD trips to random teenagers.

@Slender man😈 That’s the one I was referencing. She was in the library when she starting tripping balls and seeing Slender Man approach her.

@Slender man😈 The Operator*

@Slender man😈 It's really actually sad when people have to hijack popular comments and debate themselves for attention.. could you maybe at least try responding to whoever you're using while you're at it? @Azure Dystopia This one stuck in the back of my mind for years and only now after another random review did this part click with me; she wasn't taking her premonition lying down, likely hid her valuables (and phone with proof) just in case someone trying to mug her caused her death (she only saw the result, not how she got there..) and she stuck around the family home afterwards because she had unfinished business. Seeing so many people project depression and worse onto her fate really bugs me.

I agree with you. I had a difficult time watching this movie. It was brilliant.....and I hated it. I prefer my horror movies to have endings that justify all the trials and tribulations a proptagonist must go through, otherwise it feels more like real life, where sad endings are quite common. However, I do not believe she is trapped within the house. She can clearly move about outside, and one day they will be together again regardless. In order to sleep at night, that is how I choose to look at the movie.

@@AlexLifeson1985 I hadn't thought of it this way. Interesting!

that's a good interpretation of it.

Oh Sunshine... go and hug your daughter and remember, there are young women out there who wish you adopted them:)

I think it's also heavily implied near the end that Alice's premonition of her mother leaving her in the future deepened her feelings of hopelessness, possibly leading to her demise. All these events are connected through time in a nonlinear fashion, that it's difficult to find a single starting point.

Where?

@@shorty94ism Pause at that time code. The camera is zooming in to the left. Look to the right under the umbrella frame, on it's right side. A much shorter figure with a pale face. They will zoom in on this figure when they go back to these photos in the credits, but it is also there earlier in the movie, and you'd see it if they weren't diverting your attention. I think that is clever.

@@liampezzano or its on the credits

Maybe the brother just lied to get peoples attention off her death and the ghost story?

I loved this aspect of the film as well. There's a video in "Sinister" that shows up twice and a certain detail only shows up in it the second time. I paused the movie to go back and see if it was hidden in it the first time around and it wasn't. When I listened to the director's commentary he admitted that it was a cheat. I accepted that because Sinister was really good, but then a few months later I saw Lake Mungo. In addition to being struck by how amazing the movie was as a whole, I greatly appreciated the fact that they did not cheat. The "hidden" images in the various shots are not hidden at all, they just go largely unnoticed because the movie does such a great job of distracting us to look elsewhere. While I thought (correctly, it turned out) that I saw the hidden Alice in the brother's photo, I completely missed every other instance. I didn't catch her in the birthday scene, I didn't even see the child molester neighbor hiding in the brother's video. Yet when I looked back after seeing the film, sure enough, they were there plain as day. This movie did EVERYTHING brilliantly.

I brought the s'mores!

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apagm62pm8C3mI0.html *yes exactly*

ikr

I've got the hotdogs!! Vegan and meat kind!!

You are 💯 on this

Can't agree more

AGREED

The False Sense of hope you get when you see a normal picture, but then the zooming starts and you start frantically looking around the affected area to see where it is, until you finally see it and it just keeps getting closer and closer until their visage is in your face and you can’t look at a different corner of the screen because your eyes are attached to the horror infront of you.

more of a uncanny valley

It's like the machinist

@@fulcrum7455 Ah that’s another one

Neglected by her parents, did I miss that bit? It also says she was very close to her brother. But maybe some abuse or neglect caused some distance, depression etc.

If you watch the video you will see it mentioned that the family has a family history of emotional neglect. The grandmother mentioned that she had trouble connecting with her daughter, and the mother implies the same. Throughout the movie Alice’s mother didn’t want to “see” her daughter or “couldn’t see” her daughter. Yeah, you can take it literally, but there are so many references in the move to Alice “not being seen” or “nobody really knew Alice” that I think it’s very clear that she came from an emotionally neglectful family. I also have to disagree that teenagers are “sex-driven.” That isn’t true. They aren’t anymore sex driven than people in their 20s. Teens do tend to lack boundaries around sex, especially if they aren’t given guidance and proper supervision by family members. In the movie, Alice seems to seek out an emotional connection with a creepy couple who likes to surround themselves with teenagers. It was clear that this couple liked to seek out vulnerable teenagers in order to groom them for sex. What they did is appalling, especially with filming it, considering Alice had been “babysitting” for them since she was at least 14 years old. I also think there is something else weird going on with the brother, that a lot of other people have also picked up on. He was covered in scratches and bruises after Alice’s death. He liked to secretly film his sister. Also, editing the photos to make it seem like his sister was haunting the family comes off as especially psychopathic. The alarming behavior seems to be glossed over by the parents, which only reinforced the idea of emotional neglect.

The amount of red flags this gives is so numerous i can't even be bothered to explain to you how bad this take is, get help please @@iamme25yago

​@@iamme25yago The neighbours did not break the law. Age of consent in Australia (and UK) is 16.

She was 15.​@@WildMorgan

FIRST SPOOKYRICE NOW FOUNDFLIX?!?!?! Austin, you are a secret man of culture.

@@kjlee2831 💜💜💜

seeing dickey here made my day. love the new tracks sir ily

Love your music Dickey your band is amazing and its really cool seeing you comment on these horror channels I love

Epicest crossover of the year !

I think that was the Psychic's family beliefs, not the Palmers.

This is an amazing theory that makes full sense. I also think that scene where Alice’s dad sees her yelling at him to ‘get out’ was just what alice wanted to show her father that her brother was stalking her without her notice. Just as the video the brother shot of her suddenly. Absolutely amazing film

That’s a really nice interpretation. I always wondered about the reversing thing.

A lot of people think the brother did it

I had always felt her yelling at the sound her Dad made was her being freaked out over her approaching doom. She saw and heard things others did not.

For sure

I'm reminded of The Thing from Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark.

Yo this theory is crazy 😮 please elaborate more on it

God that’s insane as a theory. So sad and scary to think about.

Wait. What

Nope too much I’m out

He literally just talked about it

@@animuchan6136 commented before watching the video. Regardless, yeah, you're right.

Ryan Hollinger reference?

@@river8142 yup. You know it

Most horror fans talk about this movie... it's recommended nearly every time in lists. It's just an old movie. People don't talk about NON horror movies from this long ago for the most part.

I dont get the bruises part. What, did he rape and drown her? If so, why would he see a doctor about the bruises? Wouldnt it be better to just wear a sweater until the bruises went away

@@ok0_0 I think that the parents noticed the bruises which promoted a doctors visit, thus leading to his whole ‘ghost Alice’ skit.

What’s the conclusion?

now i have to watch it again!!!

@@FrancLusaite I think it's evident that Alice felt isolated both in life and in death. The brother had an obsession with her and was the last to see her alive. There's also family history of neglect, possibly abuse as far back as the grandparents. Also, everything leading up to and surrounding Alice's death either confirms or foreshadows her relationship with each member of the family: The dad leaves the lights on and mirrors uncovered for her to return (and ultimately become trapped in the house); the visions/dreams that both the dad and the mom have are events that already took place or will take place; the neighbors probably took advantage of how vulnerable Alice was and pressured her into having sex with them. The conclusion is that every member of the family can't be trusted to be open and honest with each other, and everyone is living a fake life

Wow 😯

That is a PERFECT COMPARISON. By this review alone im hetting lovely bones vibes

So would the whole thing with the neighbors be a red herring or did Matthew kill her because he found out she was assaulted? Because I was under the impression that the neighbor killed her to keep her quiet.

@@mv9653 I wouldn’t call it a herring. The neighbors didn’t seem to want her dead. And they only went looking for the tape after she died. If they were planning on killing her, it would probably be alone when they met up, not at a family outing. If they did, it would still leave a lot of unexplained weirdness surrounding Mathew, once again the bruises. This theory is the only one that ties everything together afaik.

So many people have missed this : she tells Ray what's happened, she's been drugged and assaukted by her brother, and then her body is 'changing'. She wants to tell her parents, but can't. Her obsessive brother who wears her clothes and films her all the time, kills her to stop anyone finding out. It was so subtle almost everyone missed it, but it's spelled out clearly in the film.

@@carlwide6594 nope

@@carlwide6594 this part.

The image of her doppelganger doesn't really look like it's moving. It's like looking down into a dark body of water and seeing something float up towards the surface from the depths.

shit the fycj up tihs was so bad

​@@jeffjones7108 thats how i felt. Like she was in water

Watch Hell House LLC. Truly scary.

​@@jeffjones7108I'm a bit jealous almost seeing how much people enjoyed this one lol, i thought it was a really good movie but tbh I didn't find it very scary at all they undercut most of the horror with "but is it really" twists after every scary scene it feels like which made a good story but personally I jusy never felt more than creeped out

I'm sorry for your loss, I wish you peace, happiness and cake. 🍰🎂

I was wondering why this movie sounded familiar, you're right Ryan Hollinger covered it. I feel like both this video and his have really covered this movie in depth. Such a great film.

Hope you're better now

If u like grieving horror movies hereditary is a great watch

Who cares

And to decrease expenses lol

That's the part the stops me having repeated viewings. The portrayal of grief was too accurate.

I believe that is about sxual abuse undertones.. That's what the movie is really about.

You're delusional

Same towards the end I was doing the DiCaprio pointing meme while shouting bending neck lady

@callmecatalyst ok boomer

idk how anyone found this movie boring, i have adhd and struggle to watch anything without also using my phone or switch and most of the movie i couldnt take my eyes off the screen as i was on the edge of my seat the whole time

@@zoiemarks as someone with adhd who struggles the same way with watching things, this comment has convinced me to watch this movie

I did have some friends that thought the movie was dumb at first but then came to me later saying they just couldn't stop thinking about it 😁

People who call things like this boring tend to have a very silent mind. Meaning they don't actively think about things and just accept whatever visual/auditory stimuli is present

Please watch this despite having watched this video. Creepy creepy creepy af.

Yeah let this video drift from your memory a bit and then watch the movie with some friends and don't spoil anything for them, you'll have the best time 🤙

go away

I was scared all throughout this movie and that final scene almost killed me

Yes

@Slender man😈 I live in the same city the "Slenderman" stabbing happened. So yes, I'm aware of the fictional creepypasta character of "Slenderman". He's my neighbor in the forest. We barbecue when it's nice out

@Slender man😈 90 minutes of my life I will never get back...

That sounds like that one radio broadcast which convinced people aliens were legitimately invading.

@@Theendman42 war of the worlds. They did say it was fiction at the beginning but if you tuned in later you wouldn’t have known. I kinda feel bad for those who thought it was real, imagine genuinely thinking aliens are invading

@@KingOfGaymes similarly, Ghost Watch had a disclaimer. It played briefly at the beginning, but most people missed it. There was a line for viewers to call in and it also had a recorded message stating that the whole thing was fake, but there were so many calls that the system crashed so most callers never heard the message.

Fuckin pipes, terrified me as a kid. Still does tbh

@@calredman9210 Especially when you go back and realize Pipes was there the whole time...

You have described this in a way that could be a scene in a movie ….

@@hoooyea163 Ive told this story quite a few times🙂 The scenes in lake mungo, about the dreaming and therapy were the closest ive seen a movie get to what i experienced. Makes me think that someone attached to the production had a similar experience. Just maybe.

@@melissac3984 damn that's creepy

you were dying

yes!!!’ i was thinking of this the whole time i watched lake mungo. i love twin peaks, and i love this movie

BOB found another palmer family 😂

I found it as an ex-rental at a tiny blockbuster. It was still in the higher price range of an ex-new release. It must've been very shortly after its release. I knew nothing about it except the blurb at the back which didn't seem promising, but the place was about to shut so I grabbed it. I watched it back to back 3 times that night then slept with the lights on for a week. And it took me years before I could find anyone talking about it. I couldn't understand how something so scary was so completely anonymous. The thought was starting to play on my mind that maybe the movie didn't actually exist except to me.

I have seen Slenderman: No Way Home.

@Slender man😈 hmmm I don’t recall ;)

I would sleep with my TV on the movie channel when I was younger. I'd wake up to all kinds of movies. When I was around 12, this was one of them. I never forgot it. It scared me. Still does.

Ghost cat

yeah, i honestly didn't think it was scary at all, but it was a really unique concept. maybe i need to watch it again cuz i feel like im missing something that makes this movie "scary"

@@marzkellyeah, “unsettling” is more the word

Especially the fact thats how drowned bodies look. Imagine seeing a body like that walking towards you

@Slender man😈 go away slendy you’re not cool anymore

@Slender man😈 the slender man film was so bad omg ☠️

Me too! I just heard it recommended and searched for it for viewing without even reading the synopsis. And i was so creeped out by the end.

@@Mymuseandi It definitely gets creepy, and manages to keep a solid level of creepiness throughout. Might actually rewatch this now.

It was the brother, Matt, who was filming but I noticed that it was identical to the dad's encounter almost immediately !

@@kidxkennabis watching lake mungo feels like watching haunting hills. But more about grief and lost than insanity and drive of launching forward to your demise instead of coming to terms with it

Prove that God doesn't exist.

Wow

Oh maaaaan i totally forgot about that book. So creepy

@@18thTryKyle Soooo creepy. The ending still haunts me. I actually went into it not knowing it was inspired by Lake Mungo, so I didn't really know what to expect, which I think made it even creepier for me. As I was reading I kept thinking it felt familiar but it wasn't until the very end and the author's note that I really realized how inspired by Lake Mungo it was.

The book title in turn reminds me of the classic Picnic at Hanging Rock haha.

And not to mention very sad too!

Bro it's not THAT good lol come on now

Watch “A Serbian filme”, u will change ur mind about the most disturbing movie u ever seen.

@@joaqmigueloliveira That movie is an awful watch, but not worth anyone’s time. It’s one shocking, repulsive scene after another for the sake of being edgy. Lake Mungo doesn’t rely on constant horrible imagery because it doesn’t have to.

🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

DONT watch that film @sumared. ESP if you have children. It’s not scary it’s just Fd up. Only a pedo would make such a disgusting film. Never seen it but the review was enough. Bleh 🤮

really! i wanna know the whole story

that's insane

Jesus Christ you have ovaries of steel for watching this movie in that case

If she was murdered the autopsy would have revealed that

Wow

It's important to note that apparently baudrillard hated the matrix because he felt the directors did not actually understand what simulation was.

Which scene?

everything you describe is explained by the couple that was sexually abusing her, and recording it. they likely intended to use it as a form of extortion. this is actually a real problem, even now. this is the reason for her sudden aversion to being recorded. ALL other footage of her she was smiling and laughing. she acted strange because she had stolen the footage of her being molested by grown adults, who were friends of the family. and she probably thought she was going to end up dead for this reason. she did not know how to tell her parents what happened. the assailants may have been threatening her, or telling her to kill herself, or making her feel as though she should. a high intellect needs to understand the entire story. especially when it's a metaphor. not just something literal. not just something that seems easy to digest, sounds familiar, or something easily to identify with. as those are the cues. everyone tries to claim this as their personal theory, that her brother killed her, when they're all just repeating each other. it was very clearly spelled out that the brother did not kill her. if anyone killed her, it was the couple. if anyone drugged her. it was the couple. their preying on her was plainly stated. another person people ignore is the so-called psychic. who had a sick fascination with the family, after previously declaring he only worked with people who were "ready to die". so he could "help them die peacefully" and "accept their fate". this sounds alarmingly like the self description of renowned killer healthcare practitioners. this would be him "escalating" his murderous activity for more intense thrill. to see what he could get away with. while in a trance, he could have easily planted ideas in their heads. by the way, I've never known a psychic to induce a trance *in others*, or portray themselves as a licensed practitioner in this regard. it has the hallmark of a con artist. the desperation to pin this on the brother, when even the owner of the work clearly states the brother did not kill her, is very strange to me. everyone needs to stop trying to change stories. this is like a cancer on fiction, that people think they have the right to change the story to fit their own narrative. if you want to know the meaning of the story. ask the person who wrote it. otherwise it's just a work of art. not a validation of someone's distrust of male relatives. if anything the story was speaking to the fact that minors are sexually assaulted and recorded. this is then used as extortion and control. sometimes for their entire lives. there's also a lot of brainwashing that takes place. and yes, drugging. topics that align with this suspicion are like that of the "Smiley Face" theory, "Tavistock Institute/monarch butterfly" theory, etc.

I also do not believe the exact footage everyone is speaking of, of someone recording her from behind a doorway, was ever said to be the work of the brother. it could just as easily been one of the two (the neighbor couple) that was molesting her, who also very clearly had a camera. as they used it to record their encounter with her. he was caught on film sneaking around the house. he seems to know how to get around in their house even in the dark, and didn't seem uncomfortable doing so. that means he had been there before doing the same. if it turns out the brother was the person who recorded that footage, I would like to know. but the brother doesn't get into photography and then video until later, and solely for the purpose of forcing the Mother to identify the body. thus accepting reality. as he was concerned his Mother was going to lose her mind, or become injured while wandering through other people's homes. there are multiple ways this entire story could be viewed. not just the so-called obvious, which is an story telling device and instrument to lead people through *dismissed* scenarios, to arrive at the final truth. that the neighbors were molesting her. and recording themselves doing so. that she had stolen the tape. that the male neighbor was inside the house after death. why? because he knew she had it. this is called motive. it's what real detectives look for when solving murders.

@@tiredbird471 yea because the brother is very close to her or like he assaults her. But that before the parents found out what she was hiding that her brother knew before them

Not a crazy theory, blatantly obvious if you watch carefully. He's obsessed with her, has drugged her, assaulted her and got her pregnant. That's what she can't tell her parents,and that's why Matthew kills her. He wears her clothes, films her all the time, even when she's having sex with the neighbours. He even edits all the photos that Alixes actual ghost is into cover it up. If you watch it carefully, he's a full blown lunatic. The other clues: his unexplained bruises, and the statement about the family not really knowing each other. It's all about how you can't even see what the closest people to you are. It's all there right fun the start, with Matthew's unconvincing description of how she died, with him being the only person with her.

@@carlwide6594 wait he didn't film her having sex with the neighbors. Her neighbor that guy that goes looking into her room after she was dead for bout a week was the one who film it all. The brother had probably read it in her diary or some how found out what she was hiding. Yes he was obviously obsessed with his sister.

@@carlwide6594 where did you the assault the and pregnancy stuff? I dont remember this in the movie at all

@@tinypieceofgarlicbread6000 well the assault part yes because ok even after they solve her murder how come her spirit was still around them after they move to a new house? Like at the end when they took a pic in front of the house and you can still see her spirit and that after her death Matt was the only one with bruises none of her parents had any of those just him. The Theory was that Matt knew she was having sex with the neighborhoods. Dead meat podcast explains it better. And that why was Matt so obsessed with his sister? He went to full length to do those fake pics for what ? Yes to give his mom that closure but honestly that doesn’t make sense. What it does it makes the mom more into finding out the truth which she did.