Dan orlovsky hit the nail on the coffin no matter what Lamar does he will always be held to a higher standard but he don’t care Lamar knows the mission at hand and he will deliver by any means necessary bookmark it 💯

In a year where Joe Burrow got hurt again and Herbert underperformed and had a terrible team, the only one still being questioned by his big contract is Lamar. He could win the MVP, SB MVP and any other award they throw at him and the morons would still say "Yeah but can he do it next year?". As a fan, I totally want him to win a SB because I want my Ravens to win one. But he's the best QB this franchise has ever had. Period.

Lamar winning a super bowl would single handily change the league forever

This is crazy. I’m sitting here in tears because I think about all the times I’ve been a “Lamar Jackson.” It’s not just the city who he’s representing, it’s all of us. In 2024, the Lamar Jacksons of the world still have to go above and beyond to prove ourselves. It’s so disheartening and disappointing. It’s very much like if Lamar wins, WE win!!!

I’m impressed that first take actually decided to be honest and Dan orlovksy I tip my hat to you he was honest and said what everyone tip toes around when it comes to having a conversation about Lamar

Dan is the man. He nailed it!

Can't take Stephen A too seriously when it comes to Lamar Jackson. This guy literally said Lamar wasn't worth the contract in the beginning of the season, a former uninanimous MVP who carried his team for several years. At least say you were wrong just once

Last time Lamar was in the playoffs he was throwing to guys like Willie Snead, Seth Roberts, and Miles Boykins. Also had a run first OC who couldn't scheme up pass concepts to save his life. Burrow, Hurts, Allen, Purdy, Tua, and Herbert all got weapons on the outside within 2 years of entering the league. Tyreek and Waddle. Chase, Higgins, Boyd. CMC, Deebo, Kittle Ayuik. AJ Brown and Smith. You get the point. Lamar finally got solid weapons on the outside and an OC that understands passing concepts. Lets see what he can do now.

The realist segment ive seen from First Take in YEARS. Bravo!!!

Dan Marino still gets praised with no superbowl rings

Be careful ESPN, you know there's a lot of people who don't wanna hear this conversation 👀

I hope he wins it. Let's be honest if he wins it, the bias against QBs like him will have to stop.

They always push the goal post when it comes to Lamar

If Lamar wins a Super Bowl the “not bad for a running back” he’s gonna say will be so legendary

He from the hood and has the hood behind him….people don’t like that

Lamar winning a SB will be the most important/monumental moment in the history for the black QB. Bigger than Doug Williams, bigger than Vick being the #1 pick, even bigger than if Mahomes matches Brady for SB wins. He was told he needed to be a WR in the NFL, called a RB, criticized n told he couldn't negotiate his own contract, etc. Along the way all he's done is be humble, been professional, n exceeded ever expectation. Most impressive part is that Lamar promised he was bringing a SB to Baltimore

I believe in Lamar 😤

Lamar wins the Super Bowl and MVP he'd be catapulted into top 10 qbs all time. He becomes first ballot immediately.

Stephen A probably pissed because another white guy jumped on a racial topic before him 🤣

Bout time y’all started having a real conversation about this! Coming from a show that constantly downs Lamar any chance they get, the same show that asked “was Lamar worth the money” after his receivers dropped 8 passed vs PIT… Stephen A, a known Lamar antagonist, is changing his way of thinking… we are in RARE TIMES!!! The microscope is on Lamar & I’m actually impressed how they all spoke on Lamar & Baltimore. Best segment they’ve ever done!

Bro is the Allen Iverson of the NFL

Well said Dan! Lamar been my fav player in the league cause he represents something that’s just more than himself. Deeper than just football

Lamar will win one, I have full believe in him this year.

I'm officially a fan of Dan. Wasn't expecting that great take 👏🏾. I wish he would have stayed inbounds 😂

Much respect to this man. He just told the truth, and this goes to a lot of other parts of life itself.

I've said it before. There's a difference between Lamar Jackson & Russell Wilson/Patrick Mahomes. All 3 are black but the last 2 are more corporate black. Lamar Jackson is more hip hop black. Russell & Mahomes have been in so many commercials over the years & only 1 for Lamar to my knowledge. Lamar may resonates more with the youth but he also is hated by mainstream America. Lamar is so hated that he is the clear-cut MVP for this year and many people want to give it to a RB of all people. The same position that people said he should play coming out of college. Mahomes has a white wife who is besties with Taylor Swift of all people. Lamar's best friend is Kodak Black for crying out loud. The image of Lamar is what people hate and its gonna get worse if he hoists that Lombardi at the end of the year

God please help LJ, the whole Ravens Organization get to the superbowl and win it

Lamar is the guy I use to create on NCAA and Madden back in the day, I appreciate just getting to watch him develop and play, he's my favorite NFL player ever.

Holding that rookie playoff game against him is nasty work 😂

Definitely got a chuckle out this because Miss K-Mart sure did struggle with her own point when Cam Newton simply stated an opinion on a few QBs

This is what fans have been trying to get the media to understand since day 1. Glad Lamar is finally getting his flowers

NFL made Vick cut his braids to look more “professional”

this conversation is stupid, lamar is the only qb that has to win a super bowl in order to be validated, not allen, not herbert, not lawrence, not burrow; this is really just coded language that if lamar doesn't win a super bowl then black qbs should no longer be drafted in the nfl...

D.O kept it 1000. Gotta appreciate how he watched his words but said what was real

I love my QB and what he stands for!! Baltimore embracing him from Day 1 has been great. I want him to win it all this year.......and then another one just to REALLY shut people up!! Seattle, Detroit, LA Rams, Jacksonville, San Francisco, and Miami were games that would make or break his career from here on out!! He beat the brakes off of all of those teams his own way and I love it. My Ravens are a team of destiny to win it all this year

The real problem is a certain group is not supposed to be in positions of authority.

Lol LJ already a HOFer, this SB will be icing on the cake!! LFG Ravens!!!

SAS should have just listened this entire segment, he was one of the main people they were talking about.

Josh Allen is consistently considered a top 3 qb in the nfl. Arguably right behind Patrick Mahomes. He has never even made it to the SB yet Lamar has to win a SB. It’s a shame how much more he has to do than any other qb in the nfl. Even if he wins a SB I could easily see them saying just one lucky year with a great defense. Every time he does something great the media finds a way to move the goal posts.

The blatant hatred and disrespect to Lamar makes the story a lot better with the evolution of the game. He’s literally your favorite player’s favorite player because people who play the game want the game to evolve but nfl fans don’t because most are ignorant

Why is “style of play” never a question for Josh Allen?

The problem is you don’t have to worry about what people say because one person doesn’t win a Super Bowl by themselves. The team has to win the Super Bowl

LETS GO LAMAR YOU GOT THIS!!!! GO KILL IT SATURDAY 🎉

Witness what this young black man has overcome to achieve! Tip my hat to him

I give Dan credit for being honest. Issues like this need to be openly acknowledged and TALKED ABOUT. Pretending like it's not happening just makes it WORSE. Lamar's abilities ARE discounted because he doesn't fit the traditional Super Bowl winning QB profile. Which is first and foremost WHITE. That must CHANGE. I pray that this Super Bowl is a solid step in the right direction for PROGRESS.

I agree 100% First Take took a huge stand to get on their platform and speak the honest truth about Lamar. They were so honest and right it go a little cringe knowing it’s going to rub people the wrong way. Well, it needed to be said.

He got his bag 💰, now it's time for Lamar to win the ring. I'm pulling for him

there is a stigma in football against black QBs and Coaches. Lamar's expectations are unfairly high.

Dan taking the bullet to explain it to people who may look like him and don’t understand. Shout out Dan on that one. Great topic

This is by far you all's the best take

Great conversation by all involved. Don’t usually agree with SAS takes on Lamar Jackson but he made complete sense. Wish FT had more great conversations like these more often. great listen

Great commentary Dan.

Well said yall. Great takes on this subject.

Kimberly you need to apologize to Cam Newton

Dan you've open a conversation thats been muffled for to long.... thanks for the bravery an compassion you showed on this topic, i salute you 💯👍🏼

Y’all slob on Josh Allen what superbowl has he won?

Ima Giants Fan and im 100% Rooting for Lamar since day 1 he has been hated on and downplayed all b/c of how he looks talks and plays the game and time after time he proves everyone Wrong Go win that Bowl Lamar💯

Helluva take Dan speaking all facts 🔥

Respect to you all having this conversation the elephant in the room needed to be addressed

Elway, Manning, Farve, etc won after being in the league for 7 years or more. Everyone doesn't get a ring early in their careers. TEAM sport...

SAS Is his biggest critic! 😂

There was a glass ceiling but Lamar is shattering it in spite of all the opposition. History will reflect the negative and positive teatment he recieved and it will add to the lore.

DO really killed this segment. Talking about the elephant in the room needs to be done more

Dan nailed that segment, we did not need to hear anything from the others!

Dan Orlovsky on the money again ❤

We love you #8 what you did from the day Bobby Petrino your coach told you to go out and return a punt till today is simply incredible - and let’s be clear - he gotta BAG and PLAYED BETTER- no one ever mentions the other QBs including DAN himself who haven’t had half the careers he has already had - he is being talked about because everyone knows he is ELITE - go make that promise you made on draft night come true young man 🐦‍⬛

Steven A. you were one of the media critizing Lamar for representing himself. Stop with the bs old boy, you are the system not an exception, Lamar is and will be the best qb next to Mahomes.

If my chiefs dont get it done i hope its the ravens. I believe in Lamar.

I can not wait to hear all of the excuses and mental gymnastics when Lamar wins a Super Bowl. You just know certain people will trip over themselves trying to marginalize it because he has the audacity to be a successful, athletic Black quarterback. Also, major respect to Dan for speaking on that. We need more people who look like him to speak out.

It’s crazy because if Lamar puts on an all world performance and the team could lose and ppl will still call him a loser. Peyton manning wasn’t this good this early in the league. He couldn’t win without playing a team with no qb, and then once he was traded. Peyton didn’t win till his career was nearly over. The bias is crazy against him. He’s not even 27 yet.

Lamar Jackson 2024 💜🖤

Herbert blowing a 27-0 lead to a debuting core in the offs: "defense is trash, coach is hot garbage, washed d" Lamar losing against a great Defense with miles Boykin and willie Snead: "RB, choker, not Quarterbacky" joe brr missing the entire season "The Oline doesn't help, unlucky, not too much talent around him" Lamar missing 7 games "injury prone, you can't trust his ability to stay healthy, won't play too much years" when Allen rushes for 50y: "IMPRESSIVE, freak of nature, special" When Lamar runs for 60 (more impressive): "RB, can't throw, runner"

This is so true people would praise Watson before his issues. They put everyone else up against Mahomes as the new rivalry when Lamar has the hardware. They don’t like what Lamar represents. Close your eyes you don’t have to guess if Hes black or not.

Kimberly need to answer back to cam bc cam said all these other qb that got eliminated are game managers why she even up here

DAN DROPPING BIG FACTS

D.O is invited to the cookout 😂

Joe Burrow went to the SuperBowl & didn’t win just like Hurts did but y’all still sing his praises 😂 Josh Allen never been to one, Herbert never got close to one but y’all constantly try to push this narrative that those guys are significantly better than him at the position & thats false.

It's a crying shame Stephen A. Smith...it took a white man, Dan Orlovsky, to say what black America has been saying since this young man was drafted. You, Stephen A. Smith, were one of his biggest detractors! Show some guts and admit it because all of America has you on tape saying some of the same stuff that the rest of his critics said. This young man has done nothing but win..the best winning percentage of any QB in his draft class. I'm disappointed Stephen A (Shannon Sharp too) ...your research department (or the show's producer) has been stressing Jackson's shortcomings at every opportunity. Why not tell America that Lamar Jackson and Peyton Manning have the SAME RECORD in their first 4 playoff games!! Now you're on national TV deferring to Dan Orlovsky, saying what you should have been saying since day 1! I love you my brother....respect you tremendously, but you dropped the 🤨ball on this one!

they all said the truth & what needed to be said

You are one hundred percent right. Its good to see that Dan understands because when I talk sports with my dudes they dont get it.

I thought coming out of Louisville he was gonna be it. I think that is playoff performance needs to be better but I wouldn’t think that he can’t win it all. I think that his size and mobility is the perfect combo.

Lamar Jackson has a chance to have a Allen iverson effect on the NFL he can definitely change the narrative he’s a perfect example of given a chance I can do the same or better

ESPN thank you for this. Others will deny this but its apparent to us.

What’s crazy is I seen so many black men also say Lamar wouldn’t win a SB. And now I’m understanding that statement come from a well polished forced thought out on sports fan. Lamar winning this Super Bowl will open the eyes and mind of sooo many ppl. Children…grown men..his peers. Those of all different nationalities. I already know without a doubt this SB with many more belongs to Lamar Jackson & the Ravens. And we know God is going to get all the credit. Now we just sit back and watch greatness unfold 🤍❤️

Yes LJ8 does need to win the Superbowl and it starts Saturday

Why does Josh Allen not get the same criticism. Let’s see if you will do a show on Allen has to win a superbowl

I'm a Lamar apologist and you are absolutely right Kimberley Martin.

Lamar is the most electric player in the NFL to watch ! There has never been anyone who has single handedly been as beneficial to bringing wins to his team. It's been very unfortunate that with his kind of abilities, the Raven's haven't been able to do more up till now ! I think if Harb's had been more of a mastermind type coach, the 2019 season would have ended with, at the very least, a Superbowl appearance ! I truly think the only thing that can hold this team back this year would be poor coaching decisions. But l think lessons have been learned, and the Raven's will at least be in the big show this year !

Race baiting kinda

Doesn’t matter what Lamar does because either way if he wins one it’s because the team carried him if he loses it’s because he’s a rb regardless of whatever stats he has that game

No kidding, if he wins the SB this year he needs to say "not bad for a running back"

I’m from Houston so I’m pulling for the Texans. But I’ve lived in the DMV since 2009 and if the ravens happen to beat us Saturday I hope Lamar and the ravens win it all.

Disney ESPN racebaiting again hahahah

Yeah idk about that take Orlov. The whole point is that black quarterbacks aren't just runners . And they are taking over the league.

It would be really nice to see him win the Super Bowl, I believe he genuinely has a chance especially this season. And if he wins this the narrative is going to change because he didn’t have to talent he does now in his last 4 playoff appearances, now if he does win the expectations are going to arise even more for Lamar. But overall if he wins it then with a Super Bowl mvp then it’s going to change without a doubt.

One of the best segments ever... Let's talk about it

Be careful K Mar, you speaking too much truth

Making it instantly about race.

At the end of the day he's 1-3 in the playoffs all while throwing for more Interceptions than TDs it's not about being black or white 🙄

3:57 "Blatant racism" that's enough. It's a game, and there's been many praised Black NFL athletes more or equally as cherished as other players. It's the way Lamar plays is why he's questioned since it's been seen untraditional for a qb to play like him over the years. Not everything is racism