The biggest thing I miss from 1.5/1.6/Source are how important community servers were. You regularly played on the same servers and had some sort of connection with the people. Now it's just queue up and hope you don't get baboons on your team. Everything is so competitive, you must win/clutch or xxelitesniper42069xx will start to scream into his microphone and/or write poorly spelled insults in the chat.

CSS: "What's my purpose?" GMod: "You supply textures" CSS: "Oh my God"

I agree. I played all 4 CS games, and Source is still my favourite so far. I like physics, visual design and how guns sound and feel.

There's no other feeling when you safely get on the space ship before all the zombies get nuked. I was never a fan of star wars, but the star wars zombie escape map was so fun. Having 60 people trying to escape and everyone screaming on mic was so fun

There's a simple and scientifically proven metric by which we can measure and rank the quality of all Counter-Strike games: CS 1.6 - Has chickens CS:CZ - Has chickens CSS - No chickens CSGO - Has chickens Therefore, Counter-Strike: Source is objectively the worst CS game ever to be created.

CS:S is always the most fun CS ever. Best ragdolls and physics, easy to mod it, and consistent art style

I will never forget the feeling of playing CS: Source, I will always remember opening cs_assault and see the most beautiful thing that I have seen on a PC's screen. I just LOVE Source's Graphics

It stings my heart a great deal to open up CSS and not see a single zombie escape server….😢

I prefer CSS over CSGO anytime, even if i'm bad at both. I like the gunplay, the physics and the looks of CSS more, it has just a magical charm for me, that i like. I still go back to Counter-Strike: Source from time to time and every time i am impressed of how many people still play it.

I have fond memories of playing 1.6 and Source in LAN Parties back in the day. Both of them are near and dear to my heart and CSGO just doesn't scratch that same itch.

Big thing for me is just that the source engine is so pure in this game. Wonderful movement mechanics that are very crisp. Allowing the people who actually put effort in to have skills you don't get in other fps games (bunnyhopping. Specifically ph00n style.)

Don't forget that you used to be able to replace the materials of walls on all maps with a glass texture, seeing through them. Maybe, you still can if they didn't patch it out. So not all mods were a good thing. I like the look of source, because it isn't so cluttered with visual nonsense. Things are more rectangular, and you can reason about angles better. I also like that it doesn't have mollies that vanquish anyone playing a certain angle (it is kind of random where you have to guess where they will molly and not play there, they have to guess where you will play and molly there. It's either random like that, or the molly is so imbalanced and powerful that the other team should throw it every single round.). Source had just smokes, nades, and flashes, and you played whatever angle you thought was best without there being a trump to the position other than fragging them through pure skill. No revolver and negev and mp9 is a huge plus. The first two just don't add anything to CS. They're both for trolls (often cheaters) and the second one is just awkward when someone is spraying it at an angle for 20 seconds at maximum accuracy. The mp9 (and mac10) in CS2 is just overpowered. Valve focused too heavily on trying to balance the game. Used to, guns other than AWP/AK47/M4A1/MP5(on 2nd round) were purely there to assert dominance. You were winning so bad that you could use these awful weapons that were overpriced. Now, there is a logical reason to buy pretty much any gun in CS2. This shit reminds me of when they tried to get people to use other weapons by implementing the hated "market price" of guns where people buying certain guns increased their price on all servers with that shit feature enabled. The developers of the CS franchise just never played 1.6 or source and don't get it. Similarly, all frags should be +300 to further this shit talking purpose of the other guns. Now, people are pulling out shotguns, because they give a huge 900 kill bonus. Other guns give a +600. It's all nonsense and not in the CS spirit. Decoy is a travesty. The one thing you could rely on when playing with dumbos, the radar, is now compromised where you see and hear random shit that isn't actually there. Valve just tried to add too much to the game, and pretty much every addition they made was terrible. CS2 is no exception. They added a horrific net code with subtick bullshit, and now, 30% of frags are interp kills where a person aimed where a person was 300 ms ago and the bullet connects. This often results in people dying clean behind walls -- both you dying that way and you scoring frags that way. The beauty of source is it didn't change the recipe of 1.6 much at all (though 1.6ers didn't like the recoil changes and the removal of most walling and the models being bigger, resulting in an easier game for newbies to play and hence detracting from the pronouncement of the skill they had built up. Speaking of the skill ceiling, CS2 has less recoil on many guns than ever before. You can legitimately win a relatively serious match going mp9/mac10 only as it can best rifles in certain spots on some maps. Just total horseshit.). And while I'm talking about bad changes, source's barrels and random trash on the map was overall not a good thing, one of the ways it did change stuff relative to 1.6. It was cool shooting the computers in office for 20 minutes but after that, these things only entered the gameplay in annoying ways, blocking your movement as their rough approximation of physics needed that to function. If all CS games had a competitive mode with rank and equal number of players, I'd play CS:S > CSGO > 1.6 > condition zero > CS2. CS2 is basically noobed to the maximum with awful players taking down people with 3,000 hours of experience in CSGO, and the game is also basically in beta still. It lacks various game modes CSGO had, the net code is worse than any CS before it, they haven't implemented all the maps, and there is bug after bug like how sometimes when I pull out one of my guns, it glitches and keeps my previous gun out. How could such a blatant bug make it into the official shipment of the game -- a shipment that removed the stable and loved CSGO. Have as a damn rule "we need to fix all huge bugs before this thing goes out to everyone and replaces CSGO". Jesus Christ. Let me speculate a little on the problem Valve has as a company. It comes down to two things: 1.) They have no managers and 2.) They are all MIT trust fund high IQ types (Valve is more prestigious than working at Google except maybe if you are a chief architect at Google of one of its cloud offerings or something. But in general, Valve > Google in prestige, qualification, and pay). For the first point, the company operates with a flat structure where everyone just comes up with random ideas, convinces others it's a cool idea, they roll their desks together (that have wheels for this very purpose), and they start cranking out the changes. Well, we need a simpler kind of person to direct them. Something as simple as "Hey, OK. Our team has a manager, and he mandates these people working for it will make a kernel mode anticheat since when people track their matches with Leetify, seriously like 15% of every match they play eventually alerts them that a player in the match got a VAC ban [and that is only the ones that got detected. Many, many more do not get detected, because many cheats run in the OS kernel where VAC basically cannot access and scan.]." Instead, everyone is trying to get a juicy fucking bonus, so they all come up with ideas like cases or how to alter the Steam infrastructure with new features to support their biggest cash cow (the Steam market of video games) or they want to make a fucking handheld so they can say they generated x million and get a 500k bonus or they work on virtual reality shit no one cares about or they make a useless failure of a controller that no one asked for and many, many other things. Look, the recipe works sometimes like when Portal was made or the fact that Steam functions as well as it does, giving everyone a way to manage their video game library that is generally fantastic. But make a fucking anticheat division with a manager while all the other MIT freaks foam at the mouth while trying to come up with the newest cash cow to get them a bonus. As for the second point, these people are just divorced from reality. They aren't the types to play CS for 4,000 hours. They read books, consume art, study programming, look into math, and do other shit geniuses do. They are NOT good at figuring out and retaining the spirit of CS 1.6 that started it all. It is half people trying to make the game make more money for a bonus (e.g. less recoil for noobs = more skin purchases) and half them trying to make everything so damn equitable and balanced (no more using bad guns to dominate).

I still love how basically all weapons in CS source are mirrored

"Plenty of people played it when they were two years old" Fun Fact: My Brother and His friend (They were probably 13-14 YOA) and I was actually two years old. They thought it would be funny to put me on the computer and see what I would do. I apparently used to watch my brother play and understood basic fundamentals like, WASD, and the mouse to look, MLB to shoot. They put me in a match, sat me down and I would run around like a dunce, but randomly at some points during me playing, I killed some players as a two year old and my Brother and his Friend were laughing so hard cause they were thinking about the people on the other side. They have NO IDEA that they just died to a two year old. I didn't remember this until my brother told me 15 years later. But imagine you died to a actual 2 two year old playing Counter Strike. To the people I killed, it had to be luck so don't fret.

Source was the first counter strike I played, so it has a soft spot on my heart as well. Wish more people saw it like us.

No need for anyone to change your mind now, since CS2 was an update and they literally killed CSGO, players with older pcs will come back to CS1.6 and CSS.

"even the developers are likely staring at their screen trying to comprehend how they managed to make whatever they made" as a game developer, this is more true than you would think.

As someone who still plays CS:S to this day, I can confidently state that the community surrounding it (at least here in latin america) feels warmer and less agressive than both 1.6 and CS:GO's communities.

"Zombie Escape" "The game where you can't move" As an average CS Zombie Escape enjoyer I felt that.

I'm so glad that VALVe made us buy skins so we can do flipping skins (if u don't know what flipping skins is it's basically selling a skin for more that it's worth)

Honestly every CS games have their pro & cons. In my opinion: CS 1.6 => Best for nostalgia and LAN parties with friends CSS => Best for custom models, textures, fun gamemodes and best physics CS:GO => Best for competitive

CSS IS JUST BUILT BETTER 💯 🚀🚀🚀

My girlfriend is pregnant, and when our baby is 5 minutes old, I will have her watch this video. by the time she finishes the video, she will have spent 62.5% percent of her life watching one youtube video. I'm very excited

"csgo doesnt bring nostalgia" idk when i hear those old weapon sounds i get a blast from the past

CS:S is so chill and great to play, even not being a populated game neither loved much by the community, the few rooms that have people you can enjoy fun matches!

Source's 2004 map graphics and more laid-back gameplay always bring me back to the game. I played a lot of Source in Middle School-partially because my PC was so bad that GO would run at like 20 FPS, and even after upgrading I stick back with the old CS:S. It's not overly competitive like GO, and it also has a ton of custom maps that make it a blast to play. I can't tell you how many times I'd play Source for hours because of how enthralling the custom maps were. Nightfever, LostTemple, and even Nighthawk. You just never see so unique and nostalgic maps like these in CSGO.

I played source as a kid and it has a big place in my heart, its heart breaking to go back there and see how empty surf and the rest has become. Back in the days I was so good at surf I could sometimes have 50-0 kdr knifing and shotgunning people in the air etc.

I play CSGO on the same pc that I played Counter Strike Source for the first time back in 2007. It runs smoothly actually considering the motherboard is from 2006. CSS is very nostalgic to me. The sounds, the way the players move. the gun animations, that "liminal space" vibe you get from the maps. I remember having a period where I was trying really hard at mimicking the way the hardest dificulty bots played as accurately as possible lol.

To be sincerely speaking in my humble opinion without being sentimental and of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my opinion but rather looking into this serious matter with perspective distinction and without condemning anyone's point of view, i honestly think and believe that i have nothing to say. Thank you

I still remember the jurassic park zombie map, Busses from hell map and ofcourse the pirate wars map… if only i can turn back time to relive these moments again, Css will forever be the most fun fps game i ever played!

Combat surf in Source was so unbelievably fun, the gun mechanics allow for that gamemode unlike the other CS games

1:16 TF2: Nice! We're the same!

For me is CS 1.6 not only because i was good at it ( and being hated by others ), but it's because i played with friends. How i want those days back.

oh god the physics from the source engine was the best alongside all the amazing mg_ maps in css - thanks for making me remember this one of a kind time where there were swaths of minigame dedicated servers and communities

I poured thousands of hours playing csgo but the memories i made from playing source with my friends is timeless and i always cherish those moments

CS:S is definetely the best for custom gamemodes. Had a lot of fun in zombie escape servers in there

7:03 On source, I did that on a bot lobby and i laughed harder than i ever have in my life bc all of them were confused af

1:06 This Dude got 22 and a half years straight on counterstrike games alone. What a demon

The times I've had in this game, playing on community servers. Even hosting my own on an old office pc, that stood in the corner of my room. Truly was a little community we had there, everyone knowing each other.

"i don't think its retro yet" it 100% is, beyond a shadow of a doubt. people that were playing it in middle school are almost 30 now

Nostalgia of zombie escape, bunnyhop and surf maps of CS:S man. Awesome times

I’ve played source for over 3k hours in my childhood and 90% of that time was spent on surf/bhop/mg servers. CSS has indeed better physics for movement based mods than csgo or 1.6 because character movement has less inertia and you don’t have that feeling that your character “semi-crouching” each time you bhop in csgo. Basically css movement is more responsive

I agree with everything u said. Not only that but it is the one that is the most original of them all when it comes to it's community and what they made. It's incredible how much u can do with the engine when it comes to making maps, mods and skins. It truly was an step up on gaming that most games can't even get properly to this day cuz not only the physics and everything vanilla that comes with it is amazing, it's the fact that it gives u freedom to make amazing things that are not even tought of in games today.

I liked the hitboxes in 1.6 or source better. Global offensive has so tiny hitboxes and such a weird netcode it's almost impossible to have a satisfactory feeling. Sometimes you even hit headshots that are so desynced that you think "what? how was that possible?" to yourself

Agreed with you, You need Counter Strike: Source for a lot of mods in gmod so its fairly important, it has good physics and you can install skins for the weapons without getting banned unlike Counter Strike: Global Offensive.

The thing most of people like about 1.6 is the movement and anything feels lighter In source and csgo it feels heavy

I was introduced to the series when Global Offensive was released, having only played 1.6 for a few minutes before that. I became a commentator on CS:GO, played 3,000 hours of it, it's become an extremely important part of my life. That said, I totally agree with you. I downloaded Source on a random afternoon and immediately felt it was much better than GO ever was. CS: Source is simply fantastic.

Been playing this game since I was 6 since my brother introduced me to it. 400 hours played and 9 years laters, this is the best counter strike

i dont have to change your mind because i agree with you

In terms of the modding capabilities and available possibilities, I would definitely argue that Counter Strike 1.6 is vastly more modifiable than Counter Strike Source is. Seeing different models being imported is one thing, but CS 1.6 offers you the possibility to add different particles, effects, customized menus, functions and whatnot to the game. There is a reason why this game is still popular even today, and even amongst many younger people, because it offers a wide range of game servers with unique modifications - levelling system, custom weapons, classes, xp and levelling system, progress and etc. This is also one of the primary reasons why the zombie mod is so popular on CS 1.6. And if you take a deeper dive and look for some custom servers (which you can find -- there's plenty out there), you will realize that some servers have very cool and distinct features. I think that CS 1.6 definitely tops that because of how open-source and modifiable it is in comparison with other CS games. But that's just my opinion.

I miss the time when game are meant to be fun. Nowaday game are just made for tryhard and skin addict.

I kinda forgot the command for ragdoll thing that launches people far away when killing them It was the most enjoyable part of my childhood

Out of competitive aspect the biggest issue Source had was that it came too early. People absolutely loved 1.6 and Source was really bad in the first few years and so people kept playing 1.6. That mentality didn't change until 2012 which was actually the right time to add a new game and so GO took over slowly. The worst game is CSCZ, because it was just 1.6 with other skins and non cared about it. GO had the right timing and throughout the year it was changed to an incredible good game. I wouldn't say purely out of nostalgia that 1.6 is the best game tho because it objectively was the ideal game. The movement and gameplay was faster, aim was more important. It was the perfect game at the perfect time, mixing up an arena shooter with chess (basically). Source was always the unloved little brother.

I started playing CS series when I was in 1st grade, because my uncle let me play CS 1.6 (18 years ago). Few years later I was beating every person in the LAN Cafe. I played - Warcraft, Plague and superhero mods as well. After that I had really high end PC for that time and moved to CSS Zombie mod/escape/deathrun/surf. It was so next-level upgrade and I still remember playing whole day as a kid without many real life chores. I reached global elite rank in competative in CS:GO, but it just doesn't feel the same as before... Well back then I was a child and every emotion turned into a lifetime memory. :')

I remember playing deathrun server on source for quite some time, one of the best memories I had on there, sometimes wondering how are the people I played with doing now lol

My 1st Counter Strike game I've played because my brother introduced me to that game back when I was 4 yrs old. Quite a Nostalgia. ❤

Dude I’m so glad the algorithm randomly started recommending me your videos, you’re funny asf and your humour and editing is just absolutely perfect. Keep it up!

0:40 for the south american community we have BRAZILIAN & ARGENTINIAN Offensive. These two countries have the most toxic players ever.

0:47 and now counter strike 2

Ah, blocking the doorways with some junk on cs_office so the hostages couldn't be rescued easily, good times

I’m not generally a big fan of CS, but Source holds a special place in my heart. It was the first game I’ve played in the Source Engine, and back in ‘04 it was groundbreaking. I remember how amazing it looked when you drop your weapon and how it reacted so realistically thanks to the physics (in 1.6, your weapon just slides). Also, it has the most spectacular bomb explosions compared to the other games. Plus, this was the game used for the machinima “The Leet World”, anyone remembers that? Such great memories… But CSOnline is objectively teh best CS cuz of b00bies. :p DE_Dust plz

No way! 1.3 and 1.5 were by far the best ones.

I've been hearing so many ppl worry about CS2 replacing csgo and how much they're going to miss it and it just sounds crazy to me. Imagine how we felt when csgo took over and literally completely changed the game we grew with and know. CS2 isn't going to even be that big of a change, csgo changed almost everything about css and for the most part was a complete loss when you consider everything css had that csgo doesn't. But that's what valve does so get used to it csgo babies. See you this summer, that's my boomer take thanks for coming to my tedtalk

Imagine if it had workshop support, steam collection cards with profile medals and a main menu music. And by the way, the best knife gameplay is in CS 1.6, its so great and you can headshot with knife. The sounds of hitting the players were so damn good and by the way, condition zero is much better than 1.6 and CS source knife hitting wall or a surface sound is the best.

God I miss 2012-2016, all I did was play CSS! I really miss the AHP and warlords servers, they had great people and they made it fun to play for hours! If I could go back I'd tell everyone thank you for the golden days I was unaware I was living in

Two words: Zombie Escape. CSS has hands down the BEST Zombie Escape mode! So addicting and so many hours spent playing them!

When I tried to run GO for the first time, I had severe framerate issues as my rig is - well - pretty trash in retrospect. I looked for tutorials on fixing this; the graphics were dropped beyond recognition, and it still ran like I was playing on a potato lmao Finally, I decided to try Source, and oh sweet victory: What was the first match I joined? A 40-player server with karaoke. Man, you won't BELIEVE how grateful I am that GO didn't work.

1:00 who the frick searched for peanut butter 2022?

Man I love source so much, i got the valve complete pack on sale, installed every cs game, and source just feels so nice. The movement is my favourite out of any cs game and i like the slightly lower time to kill. As well as that, the weapons (especially rifles) just feel so smooth to fire. Spectacular and underrated game.

In other words, it's not the best, but it is the most important of them all

just want to say that your editing style is fucking hilarious, keep up the great work

that moment when a Vietnamese and a Canadian decided to take a huge pot of weed and got the idea to make terrorism a mod for Half life

Really nice video, yeah i hate its the least played but it is what it is,i absolutely love its zombie kod

The fact that shooting dead bodies in the game makes them move, makes CSS the best CS game ever made

I loved playing it back when it was still super popular. Made many friends over that game,and I still hop on from time to time to click on a couple of heads

My most favorite in the series is source, a mid ground between the 1.6 classic (which i am not good at) and GO (which i am also not good at)

Source was the first game I was actually _good_ at so it will always hold a spot in my heart. ESL, private clan matches, IRC matches, I was actually a decent awper in my prime Source days. Now I'm old and have kids so I'm shit, but I stay play CSGO with the lads for fun. We still reminisce over "man, remember when we used to smash pugs in source?" As we get trampled by Slavic 12 year olds.

Source 100% had the best physics and animations. Movement was smooth, this is especially noticable when bhopping or surfing as you say. I was never able to get into GO because everything felt horribly clunky comparatively.

You're forgetting a major aspect of what makes css the best, which it totally is. Pubs and custom map servers were so much fun. Pubs aren't even a thing in GO, which is sad.

0:34 Actually, i heard that 1.5 also has a player base

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT A MULTIPLAYER GAME TO BE 2:08 It’s kinda like TF2 with its community where there is Adults and teenagers having fun and no 7-10 year olds messing the community up.

I miss the good ol days of 1.6 with the Warcraft 3 mod. Anyone here ever play that? You picked your hero class at the start and kills and wins would net you xp and you could get abilities like chain lightning or increase your health etc.

One thing that is just objectively better in CSS to CSGO is the movement. In GO the slight delay between stopping and starting feels like your skating on ice, meanwhile in Source it's just smooth af.

I swear my childhood lived in Minigames servers

1:06 that dude has 19 years of counter strike play time

I grew up with playing 1.6 at LAN parties and when i saw the first video of CS:S i knew it will be my favorite CS game. CS:GO is missing something and i am not entirely sure what, maybe it's the missing immersion that i get from all the physics objects present in CS:S.

Really love Source since thats my first Counter Strike game, I played on an old PC that couldnt run anything else that looks as good. also the physics is just wild.

LamWarp:"Each one just as influential as the last" condition zero: am influential?

I completely agree and yes this KZfaq channel is from 2009 when I was 10 years old. Haven't played it since GO. Custom servers (e.g. zombie, surf, minigame, bhop, jailbreak, climb) beats any game.

CSS is basically 1.6 + CSGO - Toxicity. Essentially a masterpiece that you can enjoy a lot more than the others (also about physics but we dont talk about that)

The one memory we all have from CS Source is back then playing on the windows XP on bots game like 20vs20 and FPS was going from 30 to 10-ish and in the first fights when all the bots were gathering around and you among them and it was actually still fun to play xD

2:34 i feel like nostalgia isn't necessarily a set amount of time has passed, like i started playing the game back in late 2018 and remember everybody having the EZ4ENCE music kit, but i get your point

Pub servers is all i miss about my old css days in 2008-9 after it i hoped strangely to 1.6 played competetively and then go but damn never forget some of the friends i made on public servers that we enjoyed to play in cold winter evenings those were golden times.

0:02 your first day at Iraq

I love that "classic source feeling", that u were talking about, in csgo (despite the fact that they are both running on source engine), you can't feel that very well. PS: You can feel pretty mutch same thing in Gmod as well.

What about gunplay? I feel like Source has unique gunplay feel to it. GO feels like HL, when I played it 5 years ago guns sounded just like in hl and felt light and you could see tracebullets, felt wierd. I was actually amazed how differend GO go "felt" as for gunolay goes. In Source you have a certain feel to the guns and they just feel heavier. I an also glad you made a point about physics, because seems like CS 2 seems to not have physics, much like GO.

Your forgetting that a lot of people play older games because they don’t have PCs that could handle more graphically intensive games. That’s why I play 1.6 and source so much. Shout out source

My 1.6 pirate version somehow had condition zero models.

I love your videos. Your sense of humor hits close to home, maybe the valve jokes or just your general quirkiness with the delivery of the joke. How easy it is to miss. Anyways, you got a sub right here

1.6 is the pinnacle of CS as a competitive game, literally just due to how high the skill ceiling is compared to the other two, 70% of cs:go's skill ceiling is going into smoke practice throwing servers and sitting in there for 1000 hours practicing different smokes on different maps, sources skill ceiling is almost non-existent due to how run and gun-esque it is, it's crazy how much you can get away with run and gunning in source compared to the other two, spray patterns are extremely one dimensional, you can lock them down in