My wife and I run through the top 10 dislikes of the 2021 Lance 650 Truck Camper.
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@larryshinn83493 жыл бұрын
We have a 2021 model and to resolve the sewer hose storage I added a storage tube along the rear bottom edge below the propane compartment. The stock storage was way too short for a decent length hose anyway. For overhead storage above the table I extended the shelf about 4 inches, built a front frame and added doors. Always room for improvements. Happy camping!
@danielaschneider97533 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys We just got one of the Lance650 and just agree with all of your 10 dislikes. also, we are living in a colder climate, and it would be really nice since this is a 4 season camper to have all waterpipes insolated. it's impossible to do this once the camper is assembled. Again this would be very easy to do and very cheap.
@iandrake46833 жыл бұрын
Good reminder that cassette toilets are really the best option. Being able to dump the tank in a public toilet at a rest stop came in handy often on our cross country trip.
@sherrisavino83073 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights. I'm considering purchasing this model in the next couple of weeks. I sure appreciate someone with experience posting 'gripes'.
@geoffmolyneux91733 жыл бұрын
Your horizontal propane bottle is not a standard 20 lb propane bottle. Do not use a standard propane bottle in the horizontal position. The safety vent line inside a horizontal tank is routed to the top side of the tank. When tank needs to vent, do to over pressure, this vent allows gaseous propane to vent. You do not want liquid to be coming out. You could get a propane extender hose, then run standard propane bottles. Hook the standard bottle upright and attach it to back of camper.
@williamfuller23892 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Hard to believe he thought horizontal and vertical tanks were the same. Good news, horizontal tanks don't fall under recertification requirements like the more common BBQ tanks do.
@williamfuller23892 жыл бұрын
Looks like they should have done a better job of assessing the camper before they purchased it. As far as the bed mattress, manufacturers will not spend the money on high end mattresses as consumer preference varies so wildly. They simply put a usable mattress in knowing no mattress at all would make the unit much harder to sell.
@thisisitunlimited4698 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t think the tanks worked the same. I just want a normal vertical one. I’d rather have extra tanks with me
@danabiehn86113 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just bought a 2018 and am excited to get a few of these “dislikes” modified if possible while they are upgrading the truck suspension etc. You are awesome.
@5ivestring2 жыл бұрын
The refrigerator and waste hose are solid complaints. Thanks for pointing these things out.
@juliocosta99053 жыл бұрын
I compared the Lance with the Northern Lites I great detail and the NL’s are so much better designed. But NL doesn’t p provide a camper for a 1/2 ton truck, so Lance wins here if that is important.
@lavendervideos42343 жыл бұрын
We enjoy our 650 quite a bit, but have some of the same 'dislikes'. Fortunately, we don't have the rear awning, so we don't have to deal with that issue!
@laurahockman63413 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with the 10 you shared! I just got an Adventurer 80 RB & have some similar dislikes.
@chrisogren8154 Жыл бұрын
Number *11* for me would be the fact that you have to use some kind of lighter to *manually* light the stove. It does not have a self-ignighting stove. You can't just turn the knob to light the stove like practically every other hard-sided camper. Number *12* would be the back window. It's not clear, so if someone knocks on your door you can see a figure, but that's about it. You can unplug the backup camera and hook it up inside the camper though. That way you can use it to see what's outside of the rear of the camper.
@nimeshkadakia1682 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing. Super cute family and awesome presentation.
@KingDavidV82 жыл бұрын
Excellent points and honest gripes! Thank you for that!
@nansea99543 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when you spoke of the door with no magnet. Then the sewer hose door!!!! LOL!!!!
@ronwasser48523 жыл бұрын
Really poor design. It would be a deal breaker for me. Really overpriced for something that has so many design problems.
@hookedonhobbies9825 Жыл бұрын
100% agree about the water heater switch. Even in my L480 the switch is inside.
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
I do have a switch on the inside as well on my 2018. I don't know why they would have changed that.
@nighteagle3172 жыл бұрын
Thanks you two for this as I was considering this camper. Good information to have. Cheers, Paige
@dljg5442 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you so much. I really appreciate you and all the information you shared.
@MauroEndaraHill3 жыл бұрын
Hello, my name is Mauro Endara and I am from Panama, I liked the Lance 650 model a lot, since I have an F-150 super crew, 5x5 short bed, but since I saw your video, I was as they say in is baseball, still in first base, I will continue looking for another camper tor RV that fits in to my truck, I have seen that for the price of this Camper Truck Lance 650, I can buy a much larger and more comfortable RV Trailer, thank you very much for the video, congratulations to both of you and continue enjoying life, that is one and is short, hugs from Panama.
@parkcitymacs Жыл бұрын
Compost toilet is a must for ANY Rv. Convert your black tank to another freshwater tank. No more dumping no more problems
@shirinzadeh01 Жыл бұрын
I think they should take your idea considerations into affect. If that table could compress down it would be great. Good ideas.
@redpillhope3 жыл бұрын
This video has made me eliminate the Lance 650 from my choices.
@kalsoncheng70543 жыл бұрын
Thanks.very helpful
@587G2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Lance is listening? They should be!!
@diamondeye75 Жыл бұрын
#11 - The newer model years no longer have the glass cover for the cooking burners, which make using it for additional counter space while the burners are not in use very difficult. They should bring that back. #12 The weird placement of the kitchen power outlet. It's in the front which means stringing the electric cables right through the middle of the counter. It should be moved to the back right corner on the right side wall, where the cords can lie sensibly out of the way.
@Silver_12 жыл бұрын
Stove does not have vent hood, how is cooking in the camper. Does it get hot and Smokey easily? Also how do you deal with storage? Like perhaps a kayak. Roof is not walkable or reinforced. Hence no latter.
@matthewyarbrough1056 Жыл бұрын
I’ll try and make a video for some of these. But the table mostly fits behind the upright cushion that is under the bed. It sticks out like 2 in. And the mount fits in the cubby so it’s almost flush. The poll I put up above in the storage area. For the bed sliding. Yes super annoying my dog is still scared from it and him falling because it’s not secure. But if you flip the cushions and use the larger square one on the outside it stays no problem.
@MrZhenderson22 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Where’d you get your mattress? Looks like it fits well! I have the same complaint about the refer location. A bit inconvenient with a larger mattress getting into the fridge but the mattress that comes with the camper is no bueno.
@kersonperez1003 Жыл бұрын
Nice I also have a tundra. My payload is 1600 lb would that be enough for this camper? Thank you.
@bklynp7183 жыл бұрын
All of this is a deal breaker for me. It just seems so poorly designed -- and quality control appears non-existent. Did anyone at Lance test any of this? Obviously not.
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
I've used mine extensively for 5 years and I love it.
@jamesajac43843 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks!!, I am pretty sure you mentioned that you are using the Toyota Tundra half ton to haul this? I was looking on you channel to see your mods you mentioned in one of your videos that you did on the Tundra but did not see it? After I watched your video I decided I wanted this same camper. I made a post on Truck Campers page on FB and I got bashed pretty much saying I wanted to get a half ton truck for this. They all said I needed a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck to haul this safely? What are your thoughts?
@AllenManor2 жыл бұрын
Same here -- I want a Tundra and the Lance 650 is marketed by Lance as appropriate for the Tundra but any discussion of it on forums or Facebook results in people saying it is not safe. Would love to hear the man in the video explain his experience and what mods he did to his truck.
@ronaldb48852 жыл бұрын
@@AllenManor I'm betting on any forum the concern by many would simply be the weight. The Lance 650 has a Dry Weight of 2,061lbs w/Std. Equipment and a Wet Weight of 2,264 lbs w/Std. Equipment. A 2022 Tundra has a maximum payload of 1,745lbs to 2,290lbs depending on truck configuration. I'll take a SWAG that a crew-cab 4x4 will run on the lower end of that and the 2wd is on the higher end. That said, even the dry weight of the Lance 650 it is likely too heavy for the typical 4x4 crew cab that most folks want in a Tundra. And even if you can do some mods to your Tundra (at additional expense) you are still pushing the limits, which can be a safety concern. Note that one of the big differences between a standard 1/2 ton and the HD 1/2 tons, 3/4 ton and 1 ton is the braking capacity. Throw 2,000lbs of camper on the back of a Tundra and it behaves very differently when trying to stop it. Can it do it? Yes. Most certainly, but with a Tundra your are operating on the maximum end of its capability with little to no margin for error. I think that's probably why many would advise against that combination of camper and truck. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong and there aren't work-arounds. Just speculating on where some of that concern may be coming from on the forums.
@AllenManor2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldb4885 Yes, I think you are correct. I was just wondering if the man in the video did major modifications (different brakes, frame reinforcement, upgraded suspension, etc.) to make it safe on his Tundra. My plan was always to buy a Tundra due to its build quality and reliability and I hoped to be able to use it for a truck camper, but after much research I have decided it is not wise, though there are several Tundra owners who have mounted the lighter Lance campers like the 650 and 825 and claim to have driven them extensively without issue.
@ronaldb48852 жыл бұрын
@@AllenManor Can't argue with Tundra's build quality. I've owned a 2000 (first year) since 2004. But probably a wise move to look away from in-bed campers excepting some of the ultra-lite models closer to 1,100lbs. Yea. I'd be curious too to see what the Tundra owners have to invest in their trucks to make putting a top-heavy 1,800lbs of payload in their truck safe.
@brysonjohnson31402 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldb4885 2010 rock warrior with extra leaf, air bags, rear sway bar, drilled and slotted rotors with high temp ceramic pads... thoughts? Supercharger? My thoughts lead me to believe it could not only hual this but also a small enclosed trailer with a snowmobile and dirt bike no problem.
@robbproulx32983 жыл бұрын
Unhook the bottom of the awning to access your sewer line storage, on my 2021 650 its a quick disconnect and when un hooked you can leave it hang its still bolted on via the horizontal supports. its much easier and quicker then messing about with the awning.
@thisisitunlimited46983 жыл бұрын
Hm? Mine has a bolt. I don’t think there is a quick disconnect.
@bjen8935 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the pictures of yours, it does have a latch on the bottom to release the legs of the awning to get to the sewer hose compartment. Those legs are made to come off the camper to secure the back awning to the ground in high winds.
@pono96792 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Much Mahalo
@jimmyzhao21262 жыл бұрын
Did you install an air bag on your truck?
@kwils07132 жыл бұрын
You can release the awning arm at the bottom and it will come towards you and get the sewer hose out
@aceman17412 жыл бұрын
I noticed you have a Tundra. Did you have to do anything to your truck for carrying capacity? Any problems with braking capacity as well? What year is your truck?
@nancymaddocks-smith8489 Жыл бұрын
Hi, is there a bypass valve for wintering/de wintering in this model? I can’t find one anywhere? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
@friedrichmountbatten99102 жыл бұрын
You can release the left arm of the awning to open the sewer compartment. That’s a 2 second job
@johnavy17223 жыл бұрын
Just curious,can one stay in the camper if it’s not mounted in a truck and just on the ground? That might be a stupid question so forgive me.Thanks for you all telling about the camper,it’s very helpful to know the little gripes of an investment like this.
@thisisitunlimited46983 жыл бұрын
I take it off the truck quite often when we camp for extended periods. The wireless jacks make it super easy to install in a truck bed and remove.
@johnavy17223 жыл бұрын
@@thisisitunlimited4698 thanks for responding.They seem like nice campers.
@larsthorwald33382 жыл бұрын
I thought you were nit-picking until I saw the obstructed sewage hose--wow, how did that make it out of the factory? Thanks for the great video.
@sherakay2 жыл бұрын
VERY helpful video! Thank you!
@susannordstrom5065 Жыл бұрын
That fridge would pee me off big time
@frank44magfrank80 Жыл бұрын
What was your total wet weight and loaded with your stuff... ??
@ianw7162 Жыл бұрын
The Driver side rear awning arm doesn't unlatch from its lower connection point on the camper ???
@ktate2002 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to hear about your Tundra build out to handle this Lance camper. Thanks.
@ricardoramirez77892 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@joeldeoliveirajunior68093 жыл бұрын
It is possible to purchase the LANCE 650 with the All Weather Package (Four Seasons) option.
@olivierv163 жыл бұрын
your video is really ridiculous you can remove the post from the awning with the button at the base of the pole. you can leave the button of the water heater open you have another control inside you don’t have to go outside. before you change your mattress you need to measure the space you have so that the refrigerator can open. the propane bottle cannot be changed for a normal bottle because it is a special bottle that goes horizontally. i have a lance 650 for two years and very satisfied.
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
Me too!! 5 years with mine.
@jakegardner1303 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@truckcamper57513 жыл бұрын
Should’ve bought 1172 I got a 2021 plenty a room
@AnthropoidOne3 жыл бұрын
Think I'll stick with my tent
@secretpersond83243 жыл бұрын
Y’all bought the cheapest lance and y’all complaining
@joeldeoliveirajunior68093 жыл бұрын
How do you recharge the propane gas tank? do you refill or buy another tank?
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
You refill it
@davidschlarp16062 жыл бұрын
The table top should definitely be the bed platform and you could just put the pole under it
@okayq2 жыл бұрын
What is the truck that you used to carry the camper?
@conanfa182 жыл бұрын
What is your vehicle payload limit? I have a Toyota Tundra with a 5.5 foot short bed, with a 1360 pound limit, so I don’t think that I have the payload for this camper…though it is called Lance’s “lightest” camper. Thank you.
@sithlord79222 жыл бұрын
True. If a camper purchase was on your horizon you probably should have got a truck that is capable of doing what you need it to. It took me 6 months to find the exact truck with the features and specs I needed. 🤷♂️
@kamerynbuckler60823 жыл бұрын
Hello @ThisIsUnlimited! My boyfriend and I are on the road 80% of our time and we are thinking about buying a truck and a truck camper. We have a quick question; what kind of gas mileage do you get on highway/city?
@julievrobel4933 жыл бұрын
Cross country trip with this rig and our 2013 Toyota Tundra we got about 10mpg
@chugs12322 жыл бұрын
How is the 650 holding up?
@sithlord79222 жыл бұрын
You guys should probably stick to hotel rooms. 😆
@jerredmarshall19893 жыл бұрын
Can you share more about your Truck? I am looking to get a Lance 650 for my F-150. Do you know what the payload sticker shows for your Tundra?
@JoeJacksonGT32 жыл бұрын
Did you purchase one? I have a '21 F150 Powerboost short-bed. I have a pretty low payload 1830lbs, so I don't think this model camper would even work.
@RealSuperRando7 ай бұрын
I’ll say some of your issues are petty and easily amended but the top for my list is the refrigerator over the bed. How ridiculous this is.
@danielrochette82312 жыл бұрын
Your pulling the camper with a toyota light truck what did you expect
@RH29572 жыл бұрын
Great Video
@fraudsarentfriends47172 жыл бұрын
Truck bed campers are hunting and fishing shacks for the back of a pickup That's all it's intended to be. The long shelf with a cargo net is for a hunting rifle or a 2 piece fishing rod. It is not really a camper in the same way as others.
@susans70912 жыл бұрын
Yikes, so dumb - sewage hose location!! I am just starting to learn about Truck Campers and learning what to look out for!
@malaythong102 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info. I’d have the same dislike too.
@oskarngo91383 жыл бұрын
In such as small space; Why do you keep dogs?
@JoeJacksonGT32 жыл бұрын
Why keep dogs? So, you're suggesting that they get rid of their dogs?
@oskarngo91382 жыл бұрын
@@JoeJacksonGT3 Yes! If they can’t even take care of themselves by getting a real home/apartment.... .... how can they take care of themselves and the dog? Such a small space “Is” Animal Cruelty! Unless you are retired or on vacation only; .... ... you have No Right Living full time in a RV!
@bill7605 Жыл бұрын
My dogs live in this model with me full time and have a way better life then any other dog on the planet! They have the whole outside as there back yard and have seen the whole country! This is way better then people with a house and a dog that work full time and ignore the pets! You are way ignorant!
@oskarngo9138 Жыл бұрын
@@bill7605 Wrong! Illegal ! and Selfish! 1...Get yourself out of a camper into a house first before getting a dog..! 2. You and your Dog has no right to run around in public .... that property tax payers pay for to maintain... “Public property is Shared.. No Pay... No Use...! 3. The vet care for dogs is a lot $$$$ It’s Not for you to say your dog has good care when you both are Poor and living in a truck camper..! 4. Again “Animal Abuse And Cruelty”
@johnpatterson50342 жыл бұрын
WHY ?? Why can’t the manufacturers Raise the master bedroom roof 24” so sitting in bed could be an option??
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
You can sit up in bed. You can actually lean your back against the fridge and watch the tv or sit on the edge of the bed and visit with other folks sitting at the table.
@DJL6255 ай бұрын
NuCamp is better built for sure !
@SuperGaijinAlan2 жыл бұрын
The Lance 650 is awesome. Most of these complaints are nitpicking. You can tell they like their camper because of the 10 "issues" they list, only two of them are legit. Complaining about the refrigerator location, for example, is a pretty stupid complaint considering the manual and website both explicitly state that the reason for it being there is because it's been designed to sit in the bed of a smaller truck and weight distribution is extremely important. Besides, they bought it like that. They knew what they were buying. If it's such a dealbreaker, take it out and problem solved. The modification to the closet made me puke a little in my mouth. The hooks on the ceiling can be fixed with some gorilla glue or epoxy. Maintenance like that is to be expected. Storage for the table is not an issue either. The table itself can literally go under your mattress or one of the cushions and the table leg can go in the bathroom. The only legit complaints should be about the position of the propane tank, and its awkward flat shape, and the rear awning blocking the door to the hose in the back. Are those 2 things really deal-breakers for you people? That's absolutely ridiculous. The Lance 650 may not be perfect, but there is hardly a better option on the market. If I were making a nitpicking video to dissuade people from buying a Lance 650, I would start by saying issue #1 is that its too expensive. The next obvious issue is the wear and tear its going to put on your vehicles suspension. But again, both of these "issues" are things you go in understanding so they end up not being issues at all. There's plenty to love about the 650. Don't let some minor annoying features keep you from getting one and going out and exploring the world around you.
@josephhunt7917 Жыл бұрын
The awning at the back is an optional factory add on when ordering one. The dealer must have had it installed.
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love mine.
@terryhoy1193 жыл бұрын
I've looked at this camper, but fridge location, don't like it.
@stevec2665 Жыл бұрын
I actually don't mind the fridge location. It's a lot better than many campers that have them sitting on the floor. Who wants to get down on their knees every time you want to get something out of the fridge.
@ifarted6422 Жыл бұрын
Look like brother/sister
@dolbary2 жыл бұрын
4:33 Put on filp flops over your socks wow!
@SkullFarms3 жыл бұрын
Can I have it?
@curtisdoyle3598Күн бұрын
You want be Newbies forever 😢
@gregsepaniac89662 жыл бұрын
Is this 4 seasons?
@user-vx5pl3zn1x9 күн бұрын
Wow your fridge is in a unusable awkward spot lance suck fo putting fridge here😢
@hawkdsl3 жыл бұрын
You should have got a Wolf Creek 890
@JoeJacksonGT32 жыл бұрын
Those are for a 3/4 ton and larger
@hawkdsl2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeJacksonGT3 Ahh.. I thought u had a 3/4.. No worries.
@TumbleweedRvLife3 жыл бұрын
Can't hear your wife. Maybe set her up with a mic?
@roberta49892 жыл бұрын
Not everyone should film and upload KZfaq videos. This is an example of that...Stop it!
@danielrochette82312 жыл бұрын
The video should be name bunch of whiny complainer. The table is inconvenient for the dogs??? the dogs sleep on the table??? Why did you not look at the camper before spending 40000$ on a camper