That’s not the case, Ben, when it comes to High Range - it happened to me on Saturday several times in High Range. I’ve an upcoming video on it. The P400 has the habit of pulling the power then when you compensate with throttle it give you 4000rpm worth; when you back off to stop the spinning, the DSC cuts in again and your kangarooing all over the place!

@@shedlock2000 Hmm we havent had it happen in high range, just low, but believe you, either way JLR need to fix

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Yes they are really rather good on road! A little noise but not excessive! I’ve driven mine to Scotland and back from Hampshire around 6 times now! Wearing well. I get 29mpg on a run with them! Decent off road! The standard “off roads” are just a joke! I’d recommend duratracs

I'm old school and I think in terms of momentum and grip. If you have limited grip, and in danger of losing traction, then you need momentum to carry you through just as you say! But there are other factor! The ground was soft, I could have taken air out of my tyres, the new defender is HEAVY! and the DSC even when off, still mucks about with power sometimes. By contrast my old series is lighter, has deflated tyres, no DSC to muck about with, and generally just gets on with a climb. Horses for courses I guess.

Actually I’d like some advice on towing with the new defender. I was giving it some right foot to take the strain off an old winch on the td5 but the nee defender also seems to lock wheels with brakes a bit as you’re being winched out. I’d love to know the right setting.

@@Longstride just leave it in low and idling, let the winch do the job. The constant bouncing and slipping puts more strain on the winch, and damages the trail for others.

@@ItchyFeetOz thanks! I think you guys might have mistakenly thought I've never been winched out before :-) trust me I have! What I was finding was the new defender was applying auto-park/hill assist whatever you want to call it and preventing the winch. I only found much later afer a bit of searching in the iGuide that you can disable this by pressing brake, holding the manual parking leaver for a few seconds etc but its not obvious. So...... stuck as I was, I had to apply a bit of right foot to keep the wheels moving and the brakes off. Every day is a school day however! Live and learn!

@@Longstride most likely just your hdc. Turn that off.

Could have been the soil too I guess! I’m going to drive that same bit again in td5 and a series for comparison. It was rather steep. I think I need to go on the experience day with Landrover and learn how they work with the terrain response. It’s probably me not knowing.

Thats what the low traction launch is for..

Tricky question! Ultimately it will be the defender but right now it’s so new I think some software tweaks are needed on terrain response and DSC from JLR. The Range Rover was also very capable Offroad but I think The defender will take the prize.

@Google Reviewer. From my experience with the New 110, it’s the rangy. The 110 isn’t well tuned at all for off-road use: all the settings are wrong and on the P400 it’s extremely poor (all power, no torque). I’ve owned many land rovers (47) and this 110 isn’t a patch on my old L322. See my video for a comparison: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iayjhrWbv8fSY30.html

@@Longstride Defender, solely based on approach, departure and break angles.

@@dirkdesouza5975 and the tech, its decades on from the Range (depends if you mean L322 or later). Poor @shedlock2000 has the P400 because Diesels dont exist in Canada! But I've got the D250 and its very torquey!

@@Longstride p400 is 3L petrol with 406 lb-ft. At 2000 rpm. Should be very torqy

I think Glenn May have used a bit too much boot on the way out too - but my P400 is not able to move progressively. It’s impossible to maintain a steady rpm when in that sort of territory on the P400. It’s also impossible (and I mean actually impossible, not figuratively) to pick up your rpm to something like 1500 to help your vehicle warm up more quickly. The throttle peddle, when held constantly in one position, causes the engine rpm to increase slowly until it maxes out. I’m not saying this was Glenn’s issue, but it’s almost impossible to shift the vehicle progressively. I’ve an upcoming video to my channel (which culminated in a critical transmission fault) because the throttle is widely unpredictable off road (in that a set amount of pedal application results in varying degrees or rpm change and the DSC issue forces the driver to compensate with not response until there’s too much response). It’s not as simple as in something like the L322 or L462.

I’d have been braver without the tree behind me 🤣

@nikkiran, that doesn’t make much difference with this issue. See my video on the matter here: From my experience with the New 110, it’s the rangy. The 110 isn’t well tuned at all for off-road use: all the settings are wrong and on the P400 it’s extremely poor (all power, no torque). I’ve owned many land rovers (47) and this 110 isn’t a patch on my old L322. See my video for a comparison: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iayjhrWbv8fSY30.html. (I’ve also got another video upcoming which shows before and after - hoping that the increased traction would help the DSC fight less. It doesn’t).

Teah, but not as comfortable though.

He did turn DSC off but once you hit 25mph in low range it activates the DSC and kills the momentum and grip you had. LR techs need to change this and quickly

@@jamesbilclough9728 that was not 25mph up that hill...

@@DanUK1984 if the wheels spin up to that speed the DSC kicks back in. Why don’t you try it and find out lol

@@jamesbilclough9728 because unlike half the keyboard warriors here I do have experience driving off road with the latest Land Rover technology whether or not that's in the latest Defender a Discovery Sport an Evoque or a Range Rover Classic or an original Defender. And I can tell you now that if your wheels are spinning at 30 miles an hour when you're stationary it's very likely that you are no longer making forward progress and you need to reassess the situation

@@DanUK1984 tbh I couldn’t care less what experience you have the fact of the matter is DSC kicks back in at 25mph or when the wheels hit that speed when in low ratio and totally kills the momentum you had. This is a fault that needs corrected.

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