Land Rover LR3 Air Suspension Diagnosis - Ep. 4

  Рет қаралды 67,017

Waffle Square

Waffle Square

Күн бұрын

In episode four I diagnose the inoperable air suspension on our 2006 Land Rover LR3. I discover the ECU is running the wrong air compressor firmware and demonstrate the step by step process of updating it. I then discover a significant air leak in one of the valve blocks and show how to change the o-rings on all three. By the end of the video the air suspension is functioning and raises the vehicle to “off-road” height.
4x4 Air seals O-ring set: 4x4airseals.com/product/land-...
Gap Diagnostics IID Tool: www.ebay.com/itm/113759684278...
Amazon Affiliate Links:
QuickJack 7000L: amzn.to/39PjZiY
Kaiweets Multimeter: amzn.to/3sBlnLG
Air Suspension Relay: amzn.to/3Naq0WA
Kimo Cordless Ratchet: amzn.to/3DfhxwI
Panel Removal Tool: amzn.to/3Wj9SXd
Dental Picks: amzn.to/3TXZTo3
Camera Gear Used:
Canon EOS R: amzn.to/3B4ogsw
Canon RF 15-35 2.8 L: amzn.to/3RWE5rI
Canon M6MKII (overhead shots): amzn.to/3vZPU7Z
Rode Wireless Go Lavaliere Microphone: amzn.to/2GHU237
Views and recommendations expressed are my opinion based on hands on testing, experience, and results.
Video Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:57 - Explaining the 4x4 Info Screen
3:45 - Ride Height Sensor Test
6:26 - Compressor Live Readings
9:10 - Opening & Inspecting the Air Compressor Box
13:33 - Identifying & Inspecting the Air Suspension Relay
14:27 - Updating the Air Compressor Firmware
18:34 - Discovering the Valve Block Leak
19:49 - Removing Valve Blocks
27:27 - Servicing the Valve Blocks
44:20 - Testing the System
45:12 - Conclusion
Email: wafflesquaremind@gmail.com
Send stuff to: Mike King
7582 S. Las Vegas Blvd. Suite 189
Las Vegas, NV 89123
#landrover #lr3 #airsuspension #gapiidtool

Пікірлер: 268
@skullbiker3640
@skullbiker3640 Ай бұрын
I am in UK . I have a Range Rover Sport 2005 and this video was invaluable in getting to the bottom of my suspension problems . very well explained and informative.Thank you.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Ай бұрын
You are very welcome. I’m so glad it was helpful.
@lukula2934
@lukula2934 Жыл бұрын
OK...While I appreciate and respect your diligence in restoration of this system, there is what I believe to be an elephant in the room here. My experience with air compressors in general taught me that any tank becomes a reservoir for water and eventually rust. Air has water in it and steel tanks are not lined or even coated on the inside. I've had tanks develop leaks due to corrosion from the inside out. Now I've seen videos of these LR3 tanks being inspected after replacement, and they are always infiltrated with water and rust or crud. The system apparently is designed to "dump" pressure when needed for equalizing the 4 shocks. This means the central valve block will allow whatever is in the tank to reverse its flow. I'm not at all convinced of the effectiveness of the desiccant to prevent any moisture from being pumped into the system, especially after seeing the condition of the dryer in the failed pump I'd removed ( soaking wet, corroded and clearly beyond repair). All this to say that rebuilding the 3 valves with a compromised tank seems to guaranty imminent failure...And frankly I don't see how this dirty and wet air wouldn't eventually make its way to the shocks...Replacing the desiccant every 2 or 3 yrs. would seem to be required maintenance, at least in climates with high humidity. It would also be nice if these tanks had drain plugs on them for dumping water similar to any air compressor tank. This foam intake filter that rarely gets mentioned and is located in the rear driver's side compartment, would also be a good place for a 2nd dryer as protection against contamination. Seems like it wouldn't be too tough to retrofit such a device...With the cost of all these components it would seem to be a good investment.. Just my 2 cents...
@TheGalifrey
@TheGalifrey Ай бұрын
2006 the Discoverys were still using the Hitachi compressor, they changed to AMK in the wake of the Japan Tsunami making Hitachis hard to source. Great explanatory video!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@benjaminramos3054
@benjaminramos3054 Жыл бұрын
You Sir are the father I always needed . Thank you very much for all your dedication on quality work.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Benjamin, for your kind words. It is a humbling compliment. I’m a flawed man who didn’t have a solid example of manhood growing up. I saw myriad examples of evil while serving in the military and 20+ years of police work as well. I try to make every interaction with my kids and my KZfaq audience a thoughtful, encouraging interaction. Growing up, I would have given anything to spend quality time in the garage spinning wrenches with my dad so I’m trying to live up to my own idealistic standard.
@RaulRodriguez-tv9sj
@RaulRodriguez-tv9sj Жыл бұрын
This is the most helpful LR3 Mechanical video I've ever used. This has been monumental in repairing my air system. Thank you!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome, Raul. I’m so glad it helped you!
@jsmjefferson
@jsmjefferson Жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 LR3 V8 with 250,000 miles and almost the exact same issues, and I was considering giving it away. I am inspired to repair it and save some money. Thanks for the videos. Excellent.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Michael I’m so glad it helped you!
@FactsMattersUSA
@FactsMattersUSA 7 күн бұрын
Great video, chasing the problem then the fix. Now to avoid all those issues with the compressor, valve blocks, air shocks, etc. Simply convert your air suspension into coil suspension and never have problems EVER again folks.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 күн бұрын
I totally disagree. I want the adjustable suspension that made the LR3 famous.
@michaelrodriguez2995
@michaelrodriguez2995 Жыл бұрын
Your video production is spot on and much appreciated. Thank you!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Michael thank you so much for noticing!! It can be very tedious setting up every shot with proper lighting and perspective and it really helps knowing I’m not the only one who cares.
@tkmultimedia86
@tkmultimedia86 Жыл бұрын
Hands down the best air suspension video on KZfaq. Thank you for the outstanding information, great camera work, and editing that makes everything easy to follow. Super helpful in troubleshooting my own issues. Cheers!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@user-xr8ud3gr1s
@user-xr8ud3gr1s 3 ай бұрын
One of the best service and repair videos I have seen
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 3 ай бұрын
Philip thank you so much!!
@blackrocklookout
@blackrocklookout 2 ай бұрын
Mike, glad I found your channel--instant subscribe from me. I am taking delivery of a 2005 LR3 tomorrow morning with bottomed suspension (thankfully it's coming on a trailer) and will be getting right into the diagnostics you've mentioned here. Your thoroughness and attention to detail is head and shoulders above even the channels with many, many more subscribers and is on par with any big-budget mainstream broadcasting network, in my opinion. Thank you for taking all the time and effort to publish these videos. I know it is a LOT of work to not only do the job for the first time, but also to find the best way to record it for everyone else to learn as well.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 2 ай бұрын
Favorite comment of the day!! Thank you, Tyler.
@blackrocklookout
@blackrocklookout 2 ай бұрын
​@@wafflesquareYou bet. There's a dearth of encouragement in the world, and of people recognizing the work load others incur and bear to make things happen. Cheers 🎉
@billmartin554
@billmartin554 10 ай бұрын
Dude thank you for taking to make this. You explain things so well. I learned more about my air suspension in this video than the combination of dozens of others. I feel way more confident tackling my system now.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Bill! I’m so glad it was helpful.
@billmartin554
@billmartin554 10 ай бұрын
@@wafflesquare One thing I learned from this video is if I wanted to proactively test my air struts to see if they are having problems or might need change out I could just pull the fuses and leave it overnight. If (the next morning) one or two in particular bottom out then it is a good candidate for change out. Otherwise my compressor will be working overtime to compensate for a leaking strut and I’d never know, thus premature compressor failure.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 10 ай бұрын
Bill check out this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb2idrCk09e4doE.html Glenn from Protohyp invented a compressor alert that will illuminate on the dash when your compressor is running. Excellent early warning system: compressoralert.com/
@BC-tz5oo
@BC-tz5oo Жыл бұрын
This repair works great for OEM parts that have not been disturbed. A quick background about me. I do Nondestructive testing and failure/root cause analysis. I took my Land Rover in for an alignment after replacing the front suspension on both sides. I had no suspension issues prior to that. The alignment tech admitted that he had used a torch to loosen up the alignment bolts on the rear, which is common for Land Rovers. After that, my rear suspension dropped to the point where my back tires were touching the fender liner. Unfortunately, at this point it’s he said she said scenario. I can tell you, if inadvertent heat is applied to the front or rear distribution valve (which both are unprotected), it will warp the plastic beyond repair and the rebuild kit will not work. In this case, $140 to repair it myself was a lot cheaper than fighting it. Something for land rover owners to keep in mind. Do not apply heat to HDPFE, ABF or any fiber reinforced plastics. The heat will warp the material beyond repair.
@lukula2934
@lukula2934 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up...Even if the valve blocks were made of metal the heat would likely ruin the o-rings and seals. The thought of some kid in there with an oxycetylin torch makes me shudder.
@sonnynteo1232
@sonnynteo1232 6 ай бұрын
A
@any0n378
@any0n378 5 ай бұрын
I find it hard to understand how the tech applied enough heat to the rear valve block to warp it whilst doing alignment work. All the rear alignment is done on the nuckle connected to the rear wheel. There is nothing to adjust on the upper control arm. That valve block is located about a foot inboard of the rear driver wheel well. My advise would be to never go back to that shop.
@scottcoates7978
@scottcoates7978 5 ай бұрын
On my 2nd RR hse. Grew up a mancave MacGyver so I truly appreciate videos. Very articulate, thorough and "English" lol. Thank you for all of your efforts ! Scott
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Scott!!
@garystuart226
@garystuart226 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant write up of the suspension errors that can sometimes occur, for my sins had land rovers for over 30 x years, lol , have a D3 myself and had to virtually rebuild my suspension with replacing things like the front struts , compressor , air tank etc , was in a right mess from previous owners , alas found that many try and repair these on a shoestring by cutting corners , really enjoying ur videos , credit to u as indeed understand how fiddly some jobs can be on the D3’s , worst jobs were replacing the rear upper wishbones , had to cut them out in the end , look forward to future videos and thank u so much for sharing
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comments, Gary.
@garystuart226
@garystuart226 Жыл бұрын
@@wafflesquare ur so very welcome , found ur videos to be extremely well put together , being very informative with it’s easy to follow steps , credit due where credit is due , thks again
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you.
@davidf.8497
@davidf.8497 Жыл бұрын
One of those rare very detailed videos. Great job. Thanks!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
David you are very welcome.
@azizlainani178
@azizlainani178 11 ай бұрын
Hi from Algeria. Thank you so much for taking time to elaborate this helpfull video. I have the same issue than you and will check my valve solenoid blocks right now!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 11 ай бұрын
Aziz you are very welcome. I’m so glad the video was helpful.
@german996
@german996 5 ай бұрын
Great super helpful video, explanation and description.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 5 ай бұрын
I’m so glad it was helpful!!
@R1eger25
@R1eger25 3 ай бұрын
you are so calm and collected, this makes me want to go and do this service myself just because you make it look so satisfying. plus it can only do good for the air suspension system.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 3 ай бұрын
Sergei thank you for your kind comments. I’ve had my whole family in the LR3 and they were very impressed with how nice the suspension feels.
@user-qx5sg5uw5h
@user-qx5sg5uw5h Ай бұрын
Здравствуйте. Я из России. Спасибо вам за прекрасное позновательное видео. У меня такая же проблема, закажу ремкомплект и займусь ремонтом. Спасибо вам
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Ай бұрын
Translation: “Hello. I'm from Russia. Thank you for the wonderful informative video. I have the same problem, I'll order a repair kit and do the repair. Thank you” Response: You are very welcome! I’m so glad the video was helpful.
@philiphaxne
@philiphaxne 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Best comprehensive walkthrough of the suspension system. Very useful and looking forward to more of your videos.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 8 ай бұрын
Philip thank you so much!
@Funky-Chicken
@Funky-Chicken Жыл бұрын
Great clear no nonsense video. Thank you, much appreciated
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome, Steve.
@free2chasehappy
@free2chasehappy Жыл бұрын
Nice video! To make installation easier, I put the o-rings on first then apply the grease.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@ramirida
@ramirida 10 ай бұрын
Gr8 explanation! keep up the good work, but I have a small comment. The outdoor temp sensor you spoke about is the tier pressure sensor Antenna....The temperature sensor is located in the middle of the front bumper, near where the air enters to cool down the radiator.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 10 ай бұрын
Are you are absolutely right. I corrected that in the next video.
@carrlo4higher386
@carrlo4higher386 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a lot of Rover dyi’s and by far you are one of my favorite. Very detailed methodical and if your doing this might as well check this part out and clean this up. Love the way you operate. Just watched your video today and subscribed. Good job love a honest professional.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Favorite comment of the day!! Thank you very much.
@powervolt748
@powervolt748 Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying your videos, you come across so very well. Clear, precise and to the point with good close ups of what you're actually doing which is so important. I have a Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 and have now owned it for 4 years as of today 12th December 2022! I replaced the seals in the front valve block when I first purchased it and then went on to replace all 4 struts even though it was only leaking from 1 front passenger side. Mine too had the original struts from the factory date stamped March 2007 and all were badly corroded so replaced them all to be done with any further issues with them for another 10 years hopefully. However I never replaced the o rings in the centre valve block or the rear so I was very interested to watch your video on this as I'll be doing those soon. One very important thing to note when flashing software and changing CCF files etc is to always have the battery connected to a power supply via a suitable battery charger with a supply feature as otherwise you can brick the ECU. GAP actually state this somewhere in their literature. I use a CTEK MXS25 which works great and has a battery reconditioning feature also. Keep the videos coming, I'll be watching them all 👍 P.S. your daughter is very lucky to have a father like you 😊 All the best from North Wales, UK 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences!!
@hannesdupreez2365
@hannesdupreez2365 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Really detailed and well explained. Thank you so much for your time and effort. Much appreciated.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you Hannes!
@fedeneke
@fedeneke 5 ай бұрын
Love the way you are taking care of this car!! Thanks for sharing and I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year!!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 5 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Fede!!
Жыл бұрын
Awesome series! Been enjoying it a lot. at 25:30, I believe that's a TPMS antenna, the ambient air temperature sensor lives on the front of the car behind the bumper iirc.
Жыл бұрын
Oh I see someone already mentioned it :) Ignore me
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. Thank you.
@fernandocoz4034
@fernandocoz4034 10 ай бұрын
Great video very helpfull gonna follow your steps
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Fernando!
@MikeTarifaArtist
@MikeTarifaArtist 11 ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks a Lot for this great Video! im going to get those rings and do the job following your very useful tips! Hi from Brazil!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 11 ай бұрын
You are very welcome, Mike!
@ultimatemenace
@ultimatemenace Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Cant wait to do the same when i get mine. Well done!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dennis! In the next video we will perform an overnight leak test, replace the two front air struts, and try our hand at suspension calibration with the GAP IID Tool.
@chrishill5166
@chrishill5166 7 ай бұрын
Very concise video Mr Waffle. I was quite envious of the condition underneath your discovery. Mine is 5 years old and was purchased from a seaboard dealer in the UK and the whole chassis has lost its paint.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! Definitely something to be said for a dry climate like Las Vegas.
@hmallett
@hmallett Жыл бұрын
What a detailed and well produced video!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Hywel, for your kind comments.
@williamshanasy2288
@williamshanasy2288 9 ай бұрын
Excellent work Thank you
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 9 ай бұрын
William you are very welcome.
@ThatCivilGuy
@ThatCivilGuy Жыл бұрын
I saw you have 6 Ventilation module codes. Those are very common when your battery is getting weak. If your battery is 2-4 years old, you'll want to have it load tested and consider replacing. These vehicles are very sensitive to voltage.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Walter!
@jesussalcido
@jesussalcido 4 ай бұрын
At minute 25:27 That's the TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR and NOT temperature outdoor sensor. Thanks for the video.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. I corrected that error in the following video.
@sanhsands6132
@sanhsands6132 10 ай бұрын
awesome precise explanation.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Sanh!
@keithfeller5212
@keithfeller5212 3 ай бұрын
Change of pace. My system settings touch screen button is not functioning. I think perhaps this my be worth investigating
@azpaquin
@azpaquin Жыл бұрын
Excellent work!!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@LandRoverLR3
@LandRoverLR3 Жыл бұрын
Great episode.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jermy!
@TheWeessa
@TheWeessa Жыл бұрын
Very good. Thanks!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Vesa you are very welcome!
@delodelo5628
@delodelo5628 Жыл бұрын
Great vid 👍👍thankyou 🇬🇧
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@FAL345
@FAL345 Жыл бұрын
Really thank u so much bro u r the best go forward dear
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Faisal you are very welcome.
@grantallannos8974
@grantallannos8974 Жыл бұрын
another great video Mike - very thorough. You may not be a mechanic but you come across like my old uni engineering lecturer lol. good to see you have the AMK - I had to swap out my old Hitachi about a year ago so got an AMK and flashed the firmware at same time. The mounting bracket for the AMK is a lovely piece of machined aluminium, or at least it is now (as at 2021) looking forward to seeing more videos but also hoping you don't have any further failures that need in depth work - the Electric Parking brake is fun to work on...not!!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Grant. I bought this LR3 for my 12 year old daughter so I have four years to work out all the issues before she can get her license.
@DiscoGruffalo
@DiscoGruffalo Жыл бұрын
The only good thing about the AMK is the bracket. The rest is really not up to the job in the LR application.
@robertzarobinski2373
@robertzarobinski2373 Жыл бұрын
Excellent professional and precise content! Your videos are some of the best out there on YT. Curious to know which jack you have? I have an `08 lr3 and would like to tackle the Tranny Maintenance you did a video on.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert. Link in the description and I talk about it in the transmission video.
@fernandocoz4034
@fernandocoz4034 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@cltrovers
@cltrovers Жыл бұрын
Great video, one thing: that is the wheel sensor antenna behind the right front wheel well…..transmission was a great video also
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out! You are absolutely right. I will make the correction in the next video.
@okaaki68
@okaaki68 7 ай бұрын
This is great Mike
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Omar!!
@danjacobs2657
@danjacobs2657 5 ай бұрын
Hi Mike, the best most comprehensive video i've seen :) well done! .. quick question.. did you have to release all the air out of the system before disconnecting the valve blocks?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 5 ай бұрын
You can remove the fuse which regulates the air flow and then gently relieve the pressure from the valve block. You can also drain the system with the GAP IID tool.
@g.doanrenovations
@g.doanrenovations Жыл бұрын
amazing video
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gregory!!
@anjumshazad3664
@anjumshazad3664 Жыл бұрын
i love watch your video is like netflix i laren to much from you big love from barcelona
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Anjum thank you so much!!
@jaferabuamerah2689
@jaferabuamerah2689 8 ай бұрын
Thank you soooooo much 😊
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 8 ай бұрын
Jafer you are very welcome!!
@vicpeterson4332
@vicpeterson4332 Жыл бұрын
Brillian video
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Vic thank you so much! I’m recording part two right now on changing the front air struts and calibrating the suspension with the GAP IID tool.
@gulammuminemran5635
@gulammuminemran5635 7 ай бұрын
It’s so helpful boss❤
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 7 ай бұрын
I’m so glad!!
@jerrygreene7139
@jerrygreene7139 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I wonder if you have an idea of how much it would have cost to buy 3 new blocks versus the cost of the o-rings and the amount of time it took you to switch them out. For less adventurous types like myself, it would be cool to know the cost and effort difference. Thanks for the video!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Great question Jerry. I will calculate the cost difference and answer your question in the next video. Thank you for the suggestion.
@DiscoGruffalo
@DiscoGruffalo Жыл бұрын
The blocks are well over £100 each. Part nos. RVH000055 RVH000095 RVH000046
@doug1525
@doug1525 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Hard to find a mechanic that is as thorough as you ... sad to say
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug.
@lukula2934
@lukula2934 Жыл бұрын
So glad I found your site...Just bought an '06 LR3. Picking it up tomorrow but the air suspension is totally messed up. Should be an interesting hr. long drive back home. Ordered my gap tool and ordered the o ring kit from 4x4. Hope its not too long a wait. I'm cautiously excited to own this car. Always wanted one. That lift looks interesting as well, do you like it? Your very considerate and meticulous and I really appreciate that.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Yes the QuickJack 7000 is great. There is a link to it in the description of every video I use it in.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
And thank you so much for your kind comments.
@juanpecher375
@juanpecher375 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video very high value information My question for you where did you buy your lift and if is an affordable price God bless you and your family
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! The link for the Quickjack is in the description for this and every video I use it in.
@ProducerCliff
@ProducerCliff Жыл бұрын
We have had our LR3 for 14 months. In that time apart from batteries (yes, plural) it has had 5 air springs, two valve blocks and 4 compressors, the last one in February 2023 - and today the Suspension fault light came on, Normal Ride Height Only. I love the LR3 but...
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Yikes!!
@ShirleyAerial
@ShirleyAerial Жыл бұрын
Great video. I am troubleshooting my wife’s 2006 Range Rover Sport. She’s got the 4.2SC and that Front Valve block is a pain to access due to aux cooler. What engine do you have in that LR3 v6 or v8?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
V8 petrol
@IanSRutter
@IanSRutter Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Is this the same compressor system used on the LR4? I'm looking, youtube keeps showing compressors for LR3. Again, great video.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Great question which unfortunately I don’t know the answer to. I would open the compressor box and find out what you are running in there.
@s3hooligan
@s3hooligan Жыл бұрын
Great video…liked and subscribed. I recently changed my compressor and while it works fine with no faults….the vehicle is now spitting excess air after the compressor runs and also after I turn the vehicle off. I know that it is normal for some air to release after turning the vehicle off but not during startup. It sounds like the air release is from the rear of the vehicle. Could this be a valve block?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
There is a valve block inside the rear driver’s side wheel well. There could be a leak there if it isn’t coming from the air compressor box.
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Жыл бұрын
Great video...Thanks! The wife's 2014 LR4 (bought Nov 2022) just gave her a suspension fault today driving from Texas to Florida. I'm in Ohio. It turned off when she shut the car off and got gas, then returned after 30 minutes of driving. It doesn't seem (according to her) to be leaning front/back or side/side or riding rough/bumpy. She doesn't really know the difference from normal to entry level heights so she can't tell me over the phone. She does have to put some weight in the rear of the vehicle coming back so I don't know what to expect. Hopefully it will be this simple!??
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
If the suspension fault happens after 30 minutes it sounds like there could be a leak.
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Жыл бұрын
@@wafflesquare Thanks... I'll have her start the car tomorrow and walk around the wheels to check if she can hear anything!??
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Soapy water in a spray bottle is a must for diagnosing air leaks.
@damonearlewine9482
@damonearlewine9482 Жыл бұрын
Great videos! I am having an issue with the front suspension on my LR3, same year and model. I initially replaced the front valve block with a cheap valve from Amazon and it seemed to work at first but would still intermittently sag in the front overnight. I checked both front air shocks and the valve with soapy water and did not see any visible leaks. So after watching your video I decided to replace the o-rings on the original block and reinstall. Again worked great at first but still had the overnight sag. I'm at a loss on what to do next?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Sounds like there is a leak in the lines or the front air struts. I would replace the o rings leading into the struts as well. Then I would raise the vehicle to off-road height, pull the fuse as demonstrated so the system doesn’t try to level itself, and perform the overnight leak test. I managed to find our leak in the front strut by quietly listening for the hissing leak sound.
@damonearlewine9482
@damonearlewine9482 Жыл бұрын
@@wafflesquare Wow thanks for the quick reply! I should have mentioned in the comment that I have tested by pulling the fuses overnight, several times now actually, and it still drops only the front and both sides. I've listened for audible leaking as well and didn't hear any. Everything about the problem seems like it should be the valve block. Now, full disclosure, I did buy the o-ring set from Amazon, but I compared the replacements to the originals and they all appeared to be the same size/diameter. They did appear to be slightly thicker, but I didn't think this would be a problem? I could try and put the originals back on after a cleaning? Or maybe it is faulty Amazon o-rings and I should try the ones that you used?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
At the 20:19 mark of this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNl8lrdjl5alhok.html Christian from LR Time describes a wear point for the front air line…
@vraja3203
@vraja3203 5 ай бұрын
great video. I was wondering about the scan tool you are using, Is it only for land rovers or is it for all vehicles. Do you have a link for that? thanks
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 5 ай бұрын
The Gap IID tool is specifically for Land Rovers and Jaguars. The eBay link is in the description of every video I use it in.
@mateostyle
@mateostyle Жыл бұрын
On the initial O ring you showed that was cracked on the air hose, did the O ring kit have a replacement for that?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Yes
@ASAADEK
@ASAADEK Жыл бұрын
nice video and i would like to know where to get the scanner to diagnose
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
The GAP ID tool is available on eBay. Link to the product is in the description below
@dragosolteanu3381
@dragosolteanu3381 3 ай бұрын
Tank you for this video, I learned a lot from it. I also have a question. After replacing all the orings, is it necessary to recalibrate the suspension or not?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 3 ай бұрын
The suspension calibration procedure is for the ride height sensors so I suppose changing o-rings would not affect those. Personally I would calibrate it just to confirm.
@dragosolteanu3381
@dragosolteanu3381 3 ай бұрын
@@wafflesquare thank you for the answer. My problem is that I don't have the tool for calibration. I saw that you have a video with a review for an iCarsoft tool. Will I be able to recalibrate using that tool if I buy one?
@R1eger25
@R1eger25 2 ай бұрын
just done mine, and no no calibration needed, just some faults at the start till the compressor pumped air back into the system
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 2 ай бұрын
Yes it does have the air suspension calibration feature.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 2 ай бұрын
That’s great! Good for you.
@geoffbown7259
@geoffbown7259 4 ай бұрын
Hi brilliant video, can I ask what lift/ jack, are you using please. I am uk
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 4 ай бұрын
The link is in the video description: QuickJack 7000L: amzn.to/39PjZiY
@geoffbown7259
@geoffbown7259 4 ай бұрын
@wafflesquare I have subscribed to your channel, and that is because, may I say the way you explain things and your camera work as you go through them are, so good sir, it is fantastic, you don't go all technical, and keep it simple to follow. Thank you all the way from Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire UK. All I have to do is remember when you talk about the drivers side, to me that's the passengers side. 🤣
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 4 ай бұрын
@geoffbown7259 thank you, Geoff!!
@carlossaavedra1973
@carlossaavedra1973 8 ай бұрын
Hey there so I have a 2010 range rover sport I replaced the front air shock bags and after 2 days the truck seems to be going down do you think it can be the valve amd or the sensor as well ? Also the dynamic error code pops up as well
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 8 ай бұрын
In episode five I demonstrate how to pull the fuse and do a proper overnight leak test without the vehicle trying to level itself. I would perform that test to see where the leak is coming from and go from there.
@Comedyislandwilly
@Comedyislandwilly 6 ай бұрын
Would this cause to lose traction on turning because mine has been doing
@Henriilari
@Henriilari Ай бұрын
Hey Waffle square! Thank you very much for this great Video! I just replaced my AMK kompressor and now I am surching for some informations about the Air Inlet of these. Since you are also very in to the Air Suspension of this Vehicle: Do you know what the Plastik Tank does where the filtered Air goes to before it is lead to the compresssor? Kind regards from Switzerland!😊
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Ай бұрын
I believe you are talking about the desiccant dryer which dries the incoming air.
@s3hooligan
@s3hooligan 9 ай бұрын
Just replaced my rear valve block but for some reason can’t get the line couplings to snug up without the air line twisting…
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 3 ай бұрын
How do I update the Discovery or Range Rover for different software of different air compressor manufacturers. You see I have a Range Rover with a hitachi air compressor starting to show a slightly fatigue and I have a brand new Dunlop air compressor that is well accepted on EU markets for Discovery and Range Rovers and the question is how do I update my ecu for new softwares I know this can be done, LR also have been using those compressors over the last few years.
@DiscoGruffalo
@DiscoGruffalo 7 ай бұрын
10:45. You don't have a motor temp sensor as you have an AMK compressor. The case is different. So you must have the wrong firmware. Also if you have no pressure in the tank in the morning, you have a leak in the tank or reservoir valve. The compressor relay rarely fails. You can substitute it with the heated windscreen relay next door. 26:00 TPMS antenna, not a temp sensor.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 7 ай бұрын
Ummm the remainder of the video literally covers everything you wrote but thanks for the advice.
@alexdickens3308
@alexdickens3308 Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the grease used? We absolutely love your video's!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Pure silicone grease (which came with the o-ring kit).
@alexdickens3308
@alexdickens3308 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!! Your awesome!
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome.
@jhow3d688
@jhow3d688 5 ай бұрын
Do you apply teflon tape to the house fittings when you reinstall?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 5 ай бұрын
No I didn’t.
@MrMaxcam000
@MrMaxcam000 6 ай бұрын
hey did all that work fix the problem Trying to let the mechanic have a place to start my lr3 2006 is doing the same thing
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
Yes between this and episode five the problem is fixed.
@natehoule567
@natehoule567 Жыл бұрын
Did you order this kit from the UK? Or somewhere else stateside?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Link to the kit is in the description below. It is from the UK.
@saulmbise938
@saulmbise938 4 ай бұрын
For me red light suspension come on after exceeding 80km/h then do not exceed 30 m/h do any has this problem please help
@raymondmendoza9561
@raymondmendoza9561 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have the same problem with the suspension bouncing everywhere. I tried the soap trick on the valve body no leak and then on the compressor where the air lines come out to the valve body, and it's leaky from where the hose connects to the compressor side. Do i need to replace the line or maybe there an o ring on that side?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
It is very likely the same o-ring issue I had in the video (dry-rot). I would definitely check the o-rings before ordering new lines.
@judsonlall9314
@judsonlall9314 Жыл бұрын
Where can I get the GAP tool ? I have a 2006 Land Rover lr3 I was wondering where I could get this tool ?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Link in the description of every video
@H.Vishnu
@H.Vishnu 8 ай бұрын
Hello, is it possible to update the air compressor firmware using the launch scan tool? Awesome Video 👍👍👍 Thanks.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 8 ай бұрын
No…I found no capability within the software for compressor firmware and stated that in my review of the Launch Elite OBD scanner.
@H.Vishnu
@H.Vishnu 8 ай бұрын
​@@wafflesquareohh that's bad.. Sorry must have missed that part out. The tool seems loaded for the price and hope I won't need to flash the ECU anytime soon. Thanks
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 8 ай бұрын
You are very welcome.
@croatonTR
@croatonTR 6 ай бұрын
Hey Mike , I have a question. My L3 has all brand new air suspension parts however while driving it the nose goes up and down randomly. My tech couldnt figure it out and it drives us nuts. Any idea what would be the reason for this random nose up and down action? Again i have all new sensors and parts and there is no leak in the system. Thx
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
How about the ride height sensors? I would check them as I demonstrated with the GAP ID tool to see if they are reading your manual input. Then I would calibrate the suspension.
@jamesray3920
@jamesray3920 10 ай бұрын
Sense I bought arnot air springs I also bought a new arnot air compressor just installed new air compressor the old was the original one it fell apart as I'm taking it out I finally had to connect my gap tool and reinstall firmware and now I have all the functions but rover still won't air up this is nut all work fine until I replaced all new upper and lower control arms and air suspension this is nuts
@mateostyle
@mateostyle Жыл бұрын
I replaced the front left strut on an LR4 today. No heat shield that I saw that I could remove but was able to get a socket on it and turn it ever so slightly and work it off. Was planning on replacing the passenger side front but I couldn’t get the rear but on that one if anyone has insight on it.
@mateostyle
@mateostyle Жыл бұрын
This video helped big time for the job. All tools, nut, bolt sizes were the same. Was really helpful to see it from start to finish.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad it helped you!!
@SherwinIsaacs-mk5mj
@SherwinIsaacs-mk5mj Жыл бұрын
Hi what is the gab tool and can I purchase it and from where ? Sherwin
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
The GAP IID tool is and OBD reader used for diagnostics and calibration specifically for Land Rovers, Range Rovers, and Jaguars. eBay link is in the description of every video I use it in.
@SherwinIsaacs-mk5mj
@SherwinIsaacs-mk5mj Жыл бұрын
@@wafflesquare thank you ever so much all the way from South Africa.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome.
@jamesray3920
@jamesray3920 Жыл бұрын
Mr mike I hate to correct you on one of your comments , that is not and outdoor temperature sensor 😱 it is actually a Tpms transponder part # 51732zt, there one more on right rear wheel well , the land rover is such a unique suv and very sensitive to things being unplugged I just replaced my cigarette plug in console but didn't plug back in immediate once I put in new 12v plug I tried to start my car it wouldn't start until I plug all 3 connection on lower console 😱 omg, , know I am having issue with air suspenion fault, I finally got around to installing all upper , lower control arms and all new air bags in thinking because I unplugged the TPMS sensor transponder might be keeping lr3 from inflation air bags , I find out next time I go home , in a truck driver so it might be 3 weeks b4 home again to know for sure , i do have gap tool nothing worked on trying to calibrating so I'm thinking plug up the Tpms sensor transponder in hoping , it worked fine b4 I replaced air bags , my mistake was not disconnecting battery 😰
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
I corrected that in the very next video
@jamesray3920
@jamesray3920 10 ай бұрын
I am going nuts a few weeks ago I installed new air suspension now u have a suspension fault I own a gap too for some strange reason I don't have all the functions as I see in opeople or your gap what am I doing wrong I hook up to computer updated I don't see where it tells you what kind of air compressor I have or other functions functions like turning on air compressor or manually raises rover , all the air out tank before I replaced air suspension everything worked fine any suggestions on what I am doing wrong with this gap tool
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 10 ай бұрын
When I purchased the GAP tool it came with one license. I had to go to their website and link my specific VIN to the tool to unlock all the features.
@user-dr1ro2cg1q
@user-dr1ro2cg1q 3 ай бұрын
A friend has had some work done to his 2006 and now the air compressor wont come on at all and he's brought it to me to fix. Fuses are good, relay functions properly in other slots and on bench. Jumper wire will bring the compressor on. Invalid data from Dynamic Control Module code, occasional rear left height sensor failure. Any suggestions? Can the sensor keep the system from even coming on?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 3 ай бұрын
Have you checked the compressor firmware to see if it matches the compressor make?
@user-dr1ro2cg1q
@user-dr1ro2cg1q 3 ай бұрын
@@wafflesquare not yet. It ran and worked for a short while after the work (replacing the shocks) so I was starting at the fuses, power, relay, and power wires. I can check it a little later tonight.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 3 ай бұрын
Good luck
@alexdickens3308
@alexdickens3308 Жыл бұрын
How many o ring kits should we purchase?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
The kit I linked in the description replaces the o-rings in all three valve blocks.
@lukula2934
@lukula2934 Жыл бұрын
Atlantic British sells a kit for all 3 valve blocks. It has directions included. Think it was around $40 delivered. I've seen other kits cheaper, but they didn't include all the o-rings and seals... The link to Mike's kit is included on his video.Caveat emptor. Keep in mind, you could just buy the 3 new valve bodies,(aftermarket), for around $150/$200. (all in) and just swap them out.
@andrewtraudes2425
@andrewtraudes2425 11 күн бұрын
One thing I wasn't clear on: the kit only pictures two of the tiniest o-rings used by the center valve (37:55) on the front and rear blocks, but each center valve requires two. Did the kit include 4 or did you not have enough?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 11 күн бұрын
The kits came with everything I needed.
@keithfeller5212
@keithfeller5212 3 ай бұрын
My 06 standard height does not maintain while driving. I see the height screen as shown. There must be a leak. But when I start the vehicle raises to standard. Why does it not attempt to raise while in motion. I have to pull over stop and start vehicle to raise it.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 3 ай бұрын
I would start with the overnight leak test with the leveling fuse removed to find your leak. Have you confirmed the compressor firmware matches the compressor installed? I would also confirm all four ride height sensors are sending info to the computer.
@reniusbalu9247
@reniusbalu9247 4 ай бұрын
Does it read the motor temperature now ?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@Hositcaos
@Hositcaos Жыл бұрын
salve non so se risponderai ma io provo , ti espongo il quesito, ho in officina una discoveri 3 che ha un problema alle sospensioni dalla diagnosi mi dice centralina bruciata , ho sostituito la centralina con una simile ma con qualche numero diverso , alla diagnosi che faccio con w.o,w , della wiurt , mi dice codice vin errato , visto che la centralina prima era su un altra discoveri dello stesso tipo , la domanda è questo strumento che hai puo riscrivere il VIN ? il mio fa solo dei test niente rimapature ciao grazie in eventuali risposta
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Translation: “Hello I don't know if you will answer but I try, I'll ask you the question, I have in the workshop a discovery 3 that has a problem with the suspension. from the diagnosis he tells me burned control unit, I replaced the control unit with a similar one but with some different number, to the diagnosis I make with w.o, w, of the wiurt Mine only does tests, no rework, bye, thanks in any answer”. Answer: I’m sorry but I still don’t understand the question. Obviously there is still something being lost in translation.
@Hositcaos
@Hositcaos Жыл бұрын
@@wafflesquare I substituted the air control unit with a used one of the same model,but it gives me Error VIN,is it possible to overwrite it or it needs a new centraline to be placed there, if yes, which software is it possible to do it with, is it only with the original or this software you use works for this ? Thanks in advance
@counterproduction6644
@counterproduction6644 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a 08 sport with a suspension vault, I’ve replaced the compressor, checked the struts for leaks, replaced a bad door sensor, and no luck. My compressor won’t turn on by itself but I can bypass the relay and manually fill the bags, my toggle switch to control the EAS doesn’t illuminate either, I’ve replaced all related fuses and relays as well.. any idea what my gremlin could be?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
No I’m sorry
@counterproduction6644
@counterproduction6644 Жыл бұрын
@@wafflesquare no worries thanks for the quick reply
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@lukula2934
@lukula2934 Жыл бұрын
The lack of illumination of the toggle is a good indicator of a lack of continuity in the wiring or switch. Tracing back from the switch to fuse box with a tester is all you can do. If you've had any issues with water leaks it may just be a matter of corroded contacts, which are fairly simple to clean. If you're blowing fuses it's a short, which could also be water related... Have you checked under the thresholds for standing water in those wiring chases? It happens frequently.
@counterproduction6644
@counterproduction6644 11 ай бұрын
@@lukula2934 the switch now turns on for about 5 seconds then shuts off with the suspension fault 😂 I took it to a mechanic and they said I need to have the air suspension recalibrated
@BJ-yj5ps
@BJ-yj5ps 6 ай бұрын
I have a 2006 range rover sport I have codes 110and 118 can u tell me what they are cheeer
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
From a quick google search: P0110 stands for “Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit (Bank 1). The P0118 code refers to issues with the Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) circuit and its accompanying sensor.
@BJ-yj5ps
@BJ-yj5ps 6 ай бұрын
@@wafflesquare hi so what do I need to do to sort it cheers
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
@BJ-yj5ps you need to research the solutions for those codes.
@machinedred
@machinedred Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy this reflash tool whats it called ?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
eBay link in the description of every video I use the GAP ID tool in.
@machinedred
@machinedred Жыл бұрын
I'm still watching your vid its amazing production ! It's like a pro manufacturers tech vid well done
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you very much!
@nephtalilucero8084
@nephtalilucero8084 6 ай бұрын
Ok so i checked sensors and replaced them and i replaved the valve blocks. Suddenly one cold morning 2 days ago my struts would not inflate. What could it be. All three valve blocks i replaced. All 4 sensors replaced, pump replaced. Brand new. I cant find a leak anywhere. Opened the resorvor air tank and air comes out. Not sure how to tell if its bad or kloged. Please help😢😢
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
This and episode 5 are everything I know about the air suspension.
@nephtalilucero8084
@nephtalilucero8084 6 ай бұрын
Do you happen to know if the air tank could go bad? Not sure on the components of the tank
@nephtalilucero8084
@nephtalilucero8084 6 ай бұрын
Do you know if its possible if the airshocks could leak internally and wont be detected by soap and water?
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
@nephtalilucero8084 the tank can rust. There is also an o-ring on the removable plug.
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 6 ай бұрын
In episode 5, I could hear the leak from the strut but not see the bubbles.
@MikeHunt..
@MikeHunt.. 9 ай бұрын
@33:15 THATS WHAT SHE SAID”
@wafflesquare
@wafflesquare 9 ай бұрын
LOL considering the average view duration for this video is 11 minutes, I’ll take it all day!!
Replacing Front Air Struts on a Land Rover LR3 - Ep. 5
27:36
Waffle Square
Рет қаралды 35 М.
顔面水槽をカラフルにしたらキモ過ぎたwwwww
00:59
はじめしゃちょー(hajime)
Рет қаралды 26 МЛН
Don't eat centipede 🪱😂
00:19
Nadir Sailov
Рет қаралды 23 МЛН
1❤️
00:20
すしらーめん《りく》
Рет қаралды 31 МЛН
Тяжелые будни жены
00:46
К-Media
Рет қаралды 5 МЛН
Discovery 4 Body Removal
1:39
Terrain Vehicles
Рет қаралды 75
I Bought the Cheapest Land Rover LR3 on OfferUp!
28:31
Waffle Square
Рет қаралды 30 М.
Launch Elite OBD2 Tool for Land Rover - Ep. 17
22:10
Waffle Square
Рет қаралды 6 М.
Tech Tuesday, Air suspension on Land Rover LR3    4K
18:48
Rene Clausen
Рет қаралды 15 М.
Truck spring suspension straightening process #youtubeshorts #youtube #foryou
0:59
Pk Awesome Restorations
Рет қаралды 3,3 МЛН
How to Rebuild Broken Bearing with Amazing Technique
1:00
Amazing Making Process
Рет қаралды 1,4 МЛН
МЕГОВАТ обкатка
0:59
самоделки 62
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
Drifts that Keep Getting Longer ^^
0:16
Cole Trotta
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
Новая Волга 2024 года, Мишустин уже заценил китайский руль
1:00
Автомобильная Россия
Рет қаралды 2 МЛН
ABS on Vs ABS off
0:16
Supercharged Petrolhead
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН