Lane or Jungle: Where should you farm?

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BananaSlamJamma

BananaSlamJamma

Жыл бұрын

BSJ explains a common mistake
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@GreySun-
@GreySun- Жыл бұрын
been silently watching for a while and recently got to 4.6k mmr (divine I) and i gotta say your videos have been awesome and a huge help. much love
@lifenote1943
@lifenote1943 Жыл бұрын
BSJ you had really good enthusiasm with this video, very fun to watch.
@IOblivionl
@IOblivionl Жыл бұрын
This short tidbits of very specific mechanics is extremely helpful! Keep it up!
@arash7378
@arash7378 Жыл бұрын
0:03 pans out while jugg is cosplaying as razor for the video
@DanielCodyBloedow
@DanielCodyBloedow Жыл бұрын
This was a truly amazing video. I know that personally, you really broadened my perspective and gave me some really valuable information to consider moving forward. This should be obvious, but it's also so nuanced. You are the 🐐 of DOTA 2 educators good sir.
@tuananhphan2612
@tuananhphan2612 Жыл бұрын
Very nice content bro. Feel so good to know what going to happen before you point it out.
@itzjaysee
@itzjaysee Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your tips. This will help me a lot.
@threth5176
@threth5176 Жыл бұрын
Great content brian keep it up
@rhettquinn7788
@rhettquinn7788 Жыл бұрын
Great advise. I see so many of my Carry’s even die by staying in lane too long.
@Komintepanatbra
@Komintepanatbra Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@caioferrer4439
@caioferrer4439 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video BSJ. Thanks a lot
@johnstevenalejandro3034
@johnstevenalejandro3034 Жыл бұрын
This is one of your best contents I’ve seen so far keep it up 💯
@MeteWayne
@MeteWayne Жыл бұрын
i will watch all your videos along side playing more dota! Thank you sir for the uploads!
@J0farr
@J0farr Жыл бұрын
actually a really good point. thanks for this.
@DanilloMagalhaes
@DanilloMagalhaes Жыл бұрын
Hey BSJ, one thing i realised from my loss last night, is that i got so used to my teammats sucking, playing behind as a carry, farming the map efficiently, depressuring and being away from danger when you don't have those essecial 3 items, that i dont know how to play when we are actually ahead. the tam plays one rythim and i play another, tam is making teamfights that i feel i shouldn't be going, but if i was there we would win and prob finish the game, and i'm still away split pushing and getting more core itms and my team dis, enemy carry gets stronger and little by little we lose th game due being prssure to fight on bad terms. i think covering this on an updated video would be really interesting
@brianstokes6110
@brianstokes6110 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for great content Brian
@mq8858
@mq8858 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely great!
@mohamedatef6279
@mohamedatef6279 Жыл бұрын
love ur content man
@charbelsafi88
@charbelsafi88 Жыл бұрын
BSJ thank you for the video. Is it possible to create a video for the major matchups carry vs carry so we can understand how to itemize during bad matchups and give ourselves a chance to win
@APBT3chnoM0nkey
@APBT3chnoM0nkey Жыл бұрын
He did this before
@domovoi_0
@domovoi_0 Жыл бұрын
Smart video. Dota is so much of a mental game beyond needing mechanical skills or knowledge. Glad you are focusing on the mental aspect.
@K0UK0U
@K0UK0U Жыл бұрын
Nice vid !
@sethkang4410
@sethkang4410 Жыл бұрын
CONTENT LIKE THIS MAKES YOU A LIL BIT BETTER AT DOTA. AND MAKES THE GAME MORE ENJOYABLE. thank you for this content bsj. i can only press like and ring a bell
@soysauce13
@soysauce13 Жыл бұрын
What happens when you are stronger than the enemy core so you can shove the lane into him and go take jungle. But he doesn’t shove it back and keeps it in front of his tower static wave instead ? Only option I can think of is then utilise pulls, is there something more optimal to do to punish in this case?
@pantsuslayer8631
@pantsuslayer8631 Жыл бұрын
Damn, you are right, we already have that knowledge about when to retreat, so we've just to ask who walks away, thanks bsj
@2GeeDS
@2GeeDS Жыл бұрын
Legend BSJ!!
@disturbedjawker
@disturbedjawker Жыл бұрын
i like these videos a lot with the new system, there's a lot of passion and enthusiasm put into them and it makes the content feel a lot better.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
I’m 11k immortla your 1k herald noob
@GetRichOrDieUploading
@GetRichOrDieUploading Жыл бұрын
i think youre the best dota educator out there and i really appreciate it
@MangoWarr
@MangoWarr Жыл бұрын
Wow I’m on TV! Thanks BSJ!
@xXlizamaXx
@xXlizamaXx Жыл бұрын
BananaSlam "You might as well be dead" Jamma Good video
@Nopanop
@Nopanop Жыл бұрын
Dayum BSJ actually makin so much sense
@lionelperez-
@lionelperez- Жыл бұрын
Thanks coach
@REDZYcha
@REDZYcha Жыл бұрын
good content. Question, can you make video about what items can counter what heroes? Like Difuse good for PL to fight against OD, Leshrak. Im low MMR, and sometimes i struggle with getting right items with/against heroes.
@andresbustamante795
@andresbustamante795 Жыл бұрын
There’s so many different heroes and combinations that it would take hours to go through all of them. Which interactions specifically are you interested on? Maybe I can help a bit
@REDZYcha
@REDZYcha Жыл бұрын
@@andresbustamante795 let's say for support. Like cm, ogre, venga
@ItsClint
@ItsClint Жыл бұрын
@@REDZYcha they are very strong with just their skills. usually you itemize towards saving your team from enemies, like if they have heavy magic burst, glimmer cape to save friends is cool; conversely, if they have, say, faceless void, glimmer cape won't save you (or your teammates) from that chrono... but maybe building a force staff will! you can save them before void gets to chrono -- hopefully you see what I mean. As for more selfish items, in case you are stomping and dont need defensive stuff: CM loves blink. You blink, slow (if your team can catch up with just the slow) or freeze with W (if enemy has a mobility spell, or something that requires immediate lockdown, like QoP blink for example), then use the other spell, boom, dead hero. and you still have ultimate in case they're still alive too. Ogre is a tanky mf, can build midas to compensate farm, Venge likes to build defensive to save herself after swapping teammates to safety - or kill items if you're ahead and use it to gank ppl. Depends if your game is going well or not... very situational. also take this with a pinch of salt, I'm no BSJ or pro player. but should be decent general tips
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
That video would take like 200 hours for every single hero to hero interaction just use your brain
@buruguduystunstugudunstuy7370
@buruguduystunstugudunstuy7370 Жыл бұрын
learning dota again is quite a challenge for me especially with all these new things that are added and the patches seem to be getting rediculous everytime. but with these consistent upload from BSJ keeps me well educated and updated on what things i shouldnt do and should be doing. thank you man appreciate every single vids you post. much love from the philippines🌻
@Um4ru
@Um4ru Жыл бұрын
Question: 1) Jugger vs razor: If jugger could draw aggro, to clear the wave, and spin (lvl3) while razor drain his dmg and while spinning tp out to t-1 would be good play? And after that, with no dmg, w8 at tower or go jg ?
@yamasan83
@yamasan83 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, really make me thinking. I have a question: How can I improve my "reading of the game" (as carry but also as offlaner) in the mid game when the big fights starts? I had most of the time good laning phase with good farm and kills but when the game shift to that situation i kinda lose the advatage. why?
@rodionlee2533
@rodionlee2533 Жыл бұрын
I guess you fail to capitalize on the gained advantage or you are simply afraid of messing up and have a "play not to lose" mentality, paying too much attention on your kda and numbers in general. Secured laning hasn't been a winning factor for quite a while, unless all 3 lanes are stomped, which is rare even at low divine. Other things to keep track of are timings and power spikes in relation to enemy timings, synergies, high-ground and Roshan potential etc. You need to find your weaknesses and work on them one at a time. As they say, Moscow wasn't built in one day, if you want to improve, you have to play against slightly stronger opponents and not be afraid to take risks: that's how you get most valuable experience from your loses and win games that seemed to be unwinnable before.
@Bleacher22
@Bleacher22 Жыл бұрын
Depends on many things, but dying less farming more as a carry is a key thing.
@ulykhbyekmaralbyek6981
@ulykhbyekmaralbyek6981 Жыл бұрын
are u shoving enough waves? just pick good lane shovers and see if it helps. most bad fights are taken when all your waves are bad. It kinda like being caged in and then you're like fuck it, cant live like this id rather die
@yamasan83
@yamasan83 Жыл бұрын
when i play carry or offlaner i try always to keep lanes over the river at least. Sometimes i feel forced to take part in a fight (they pinging me or talking) when we are in bad spots or when we have cooldown. And then we lose the fight and they blame me or stuff like that. It's really frustrating, but when you show your cd they didn't care. I don't know, i think i'm a "good" player but i'm stuck in Guardian 2 and i play with some friends that are Crusader 4-5 (but basically we are at the same level of play and understanding of the game). When i play solo i feel like it's not entirely my fault, because i see bad situations but my team no, and I can say all the stuff but they don't follow me. One thing for sure i have to improve is understand more my power spike, I mean, capitalize it. Sometime i reach for example 6th before my enemy lane but we are not able to use it as soon as i reach it or before my enemy reach their 6th... And i feel like i waste something.
@rodionlee2533
@rodionlee2533 Жыл бұрын
@@yamasan83regarding communication and complaining about teammates who are not listening: this might sound ultra toxic, but you don't ever need to communicate to win pubs, especially in your bracket. There is a reason why there are plenty of players who are able to reach immortal with little to no communication. It really starts to matter when you play with ones you can fully trust and consider them as good players, and that happens usually when you play with pros. Until you reach that level, consider your teammates and enemies as bots and learn to be better at foundations. If you do better on average than an opposite player of the same role, you'll surely climb.
@barburasandreiflorian9873
@barburasandreiflorian9873 Жыл бұрын
Best video this week 🥰
@jasonevans2178
@jasonevans2178 Жыл бұрын
watching the latest BSJ video always makes me want to get back into Dota and practice right away.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Your herald lol
@reynnevangelista8877
@reynnevangelista8877 Жыл бұрын
Bsj literally taught me so much that I went from crusader 1 to legend 1
@SonOfZeusGaming
@SonOfZeusGaming Жыл бұрын
and that's one of the reasons DP is so strong in lane, you get siphoned and you're fcked
@ugandaknuckles590
@ugandaknuckles590 Жыл бұрын
Thank you bsj
@warlockCommitteeMeeting
@warlockCommitteeMeeting Жыл бұрын
ty the best
@Venduhl
@Venduhl Жыл бұрын
I just realize that I will never see BSJ in my pubs... LONG TIME GOAL OMG BACK TO TRAINING I GUESS
@Glitch9001
@Glitch9001 Жыл бұрын
very cool
@ScoopzyDaizy
@ScoopzyDaizy Жыл бұрын
I love BSJ, but no matter how much I listen to his advice and apply many of these principles into my games, I am stuck at Crusader. The randomness of people you play with in this rank is just incredible. For example a couple of days ago I had a dude who was hard support, picked Dazzle and went offlane, asking what POS5 means when we urged him to go to his lane. The game, naturally, ended in 20 minutes as we were stomped. There are too many factors involved like this that disable you from succesfully carrying a game. I play POS1 90% of the time. I know I do my job well most of the time. For example on my last dota plus quarterly report I had 74% winrate with Juggernaut, with 15 kills per game average.
@weasel6843
@weasel6843 Жыл бұрын
there should be only 4 people on your team who can grief you, but 5 people on the other team that can grief them. blaming your mmr on your teammates is bot mentality
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Hahah imagine being crusader and blaming your team delsuoona” and braindead. Somehow when I Smurf on 6k immortla I win every game even though my teammates are bots but you can’t win crusader games cuz your team is bad lol sure it’s totally not that your trash a Dallas on game making you lose 30 mmr made you stuck in crusader totally beleifebakw
@putik279
@putik279 Жыл бұрын
Listening to BSJ improve my rank from herald 2 to legend 5. It really works. Thanks bud. 😎 Super educational indeed.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Legend 5 hahah your so bad still just delete dota
@DUKEHadToDoItToEm
@DUKEHadToDoItToEm Жыл бұрын
I see you edited the title in an attempt to step away from click bait. Good move, when I see click bait titles it makes me and I feel most people who realize it's click bait not click it
@demmassalim6934
@demmassalim6934 Жыл бұрын
Just spam a hero and you'll start doing these things without realizing it. "Ok. My Batrider can't kill the mid OD because he has astral. But if I bait out the astral, then he has no choice but to run away from the lane. So I'm just going to blatantly place a ward in front of him and let him kill my ward, I'm going to contest the ward, and he's going to astral me so I can't stop him. Once he astrals, I can kill him". Of course it doesn't always work, but I can't count the number of times I've baited people into stayin in lane longer than they should by baiting spell and wards. Just spam a hero and you'll know most of its strengths and weaknesses. Edit: oh and to add, you should play while respecting your enemy, and assume they'll do the correct response. I've also underestimated my enemy and got punished for it hard.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
This is the most basic herald obivous knowledge ever are you 1k mmr? Lol
@demmassalim6934
@demmassalim6934 Жыл бұрын
@@KidTrigger you know, if you really wanted to ‘trigger’ me, at least try making some factual insults. Why would I care what some internet stranger would say? P.s. apparently, all your comments are like this. I guess I was right. You just wanna stir up some trouble.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
@@demmassalim6934 my insults are factual your comment is the most common and basic knowledge I ever seen
@demmassalim6934
@demmassalim6934 Жыл бұрын
@@KidTrigger k
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
If you can go mid farm lane if someone else goes mid go jungle or double mid
@tonymontana9221
@tonymontana9221 Жыл бұрын
I feel like mid laner, especially in mid lane, does not apply the knowledge as frequently as other lanes because mid lane are most likely to have multiple friends or foes.
@tonymontana9221
@tonymontana9221 Жыл бұрын
Regardless, great content.
@tuananhphan2612
@tuananhphan2612 Жыл бұрын
Go watch some mid coaching session and you will see if knowledge is important or not for mid lane
@tonymontana9221
@tonymontana9221 Жыл бұрын
@@tuananhphan2612 I mean if you are talking about scenario like "if puck and void spirit with the same level both meet at mid, who should be more conservative?", the knowledge this video talk about is definitely perfect. However, mid lanners this meta is all about working with your supports and pressure correct targets. You rarely face the problem of "to safely farm with the existence of certain enemy hero, how should I cast spell to max the farm I get". If you want to be nitty gritty, when you play TA or other similar heroes on mid, you think about this question a lot and I will give you credits on that.
@TheBenC
@TheBenC Жыл бұрын
Following bsj's videos = from archon to ancient 5. That's me.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Imagine being ancient lol your so bad delete dota noob I’m way higher mmr than you dog
@vginside
@vginside Жыл бұрын
Hi im an archon/legend player... mostly i see people playing pos1 have last hits like 400+ in 30 mins i can bear get like 200-250... can you show a video how to farm that good? I try stack farm but cant find enough creeps in map maybe my teammates take or donno! Thanks in advance!
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse Жыл бұрын
10 minutes, in the lane if you get every single last hit on your creeps, you get 80 cs without a single jungle camp.
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse Жыл бұрын
If you play heros like naga you can get loads of creeps in a short period of time.
@yellowscarlightningscream8347
@yellowscarlightningscream8347 Жыл бұрын
My farming pattern
@bcatbb2896
@bcatbb2896 Жыл бұрын
im guilty of this, and despite keeping this in mind, i still do it anyways
@blitzkrieg4926
@blitzkrieg4926 Жыл бұрын
why not both
@ybabts
@ybabts Жыл бұрын
Notification squad pull up
@johnnypaxters9340
@johnnypaxters9340 Жыл бұрын
Who is Nicholas Whitney?
@DJTimeLock
@DJTimeLock Жыл бұрын
"why you farm like a 2k" probably cuz i am 2k xD
@devon752
@devon752 Жыл бұрын
It depends guys. There you go, you don't have to watch the video now - yw
@kropek2008
@kropek2008 Жыл бұрын
I think I will be herald 2 after watching this.
@pcxxy
@pcxxy Жыл бұрын
this is bsj trying to spend 7 minutes to kindly tell people to turn on their f'ing brain when they play
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Most dota players don’t have brains most dota playees only have 4 digit mmr LMAO it’s so patheitc and embarrassing
@drinno1
@drinno1 Жыл бұрын
abed on
@Lightning123ful
@Lightning123ful Жыл бұрын
this guy is good no joke
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
He’s 9k mmr on na server he’s not good lol. 9k is bad on eu. 9k on na is just pathetic
@Venduhl
@Venduhl Жыл бұрын
See you nerd!
@afrocious8281
@afrocious8281 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how you're saying save your abilities when that was a well known thing in dota, i think a lot of league players have moved over and that\'s why lower mmr brackets are so spell spammy now lol
@OrdoMallius
@OrdoMallius Жыл бұрын
No. It's my teams fault.
@NK-fp9zs
@NK-fp9zs Жыл бұрын
One Piece is real!
@ErteiAblaou
@ErteiAblaou Жыл бұрын
comment
@gaiussangma5006
@gaiussangma5006 Жыл бұрын
Its really sad that bsj literally has to make a video about common sense stuff like this for dota players
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Most dota players are horrible at the game, all players below 10k mmr know nothing about the game
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
This is the most pointless video I ever saw I never even had to think of this. This just basic common sense
@825worker
@825worker Жыл бұрын
The answer is to quit dota, get a real life and be happy.
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
Dota is a real life delsuional kid. You travel to different countries pkay tournaments, make lots of money, live with a bunch of people it’s very happy
@AjayKumar-qo2uv
@AjayKumar-qo2uv Жыл бұрын
When i use jugg, i just go travel boots, and never let any of enemy creepwave cross the river line xDD ..this hero is insane, also with bkb its gonna shred towers anyhow anyway...like travel boots, deso, AC, silver edge for escape, swift blink and more dmg like rapier or 2 daedalus when hitting towers..
@incoma6628
@incoma6628 Жыл бұрын
maybe in 1k bracket it will work but travels on jug is just a wast of gold, daedalus is just KEKW
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