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An introduction to Ulster-Scots and its origins.
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@PoeCasey 2 жыл бұрын

I’m from the line of Ulster Scots that emigrated to Appalachia in 1717. My grandparents spoke standard English but it was heavily accented with something like this language.

@DMG118 3 жыл бұрын

It’s English after 8 pints of Harp

@BasedLink 2 жыл бұрын

In America most Southerners and Appalachians are actually Ulster-Scots or Scotch-Irish as they were called. It's a bit of a stretch but there is still some similarity in the accent and in Appalachia there are still some Scots words in use.

@viktorlundberg9332 2 жыл бұрын

@@lefeuvivant ingång. Swedish

@viktorlundberg9332 2 жыл бұрын

Prolly not Fitch then bit ingang is Esther Scandinavian? And THE church of St. Hitler is the true Mercy?

@elve5555 2 жыл бұрын

@@lefeuvivant That's quite the claim for someone that's entirely mistaken. The entire British Isles was populated by Celtic people (Gaels, Britons, Picts) before the Angles and Saxons (and other Germanic peoples) settled in southern and eastern England. Yes, Danish vikings often did raid and rule Northern England and Scotland and left quite an influence there. Still, the Lowland Scots today are much more genetically Celtic than you'd see with people as you go farther south. They also spoke Gaelic before England began their colonization of Scotland. Not to mention, the Anglo Saxons didn't replace, but mixed with the Celtic Britons. Modern day British folk are only about 1/3 Anglo Saxon genetically. Do some reading on the Roman conquests in Britain before the Anglo Saxons ever settled there. Read about Hadrian's Wall, which was 100km south of where Glasgow is today. Lowland Scots were, and still are very much Celtic.

@ttpp3465 Жыл бұрын

Ur chatting s*it there about 100 million people that live in the regions mentioned how can you say that ‘most’ are Scottish Irish just because you’re nans cats best friends owner once spoke to a ulsterman doesn’t mean you’re all suddenly from ulster/Scotland classic yank 😂😅

@BasedLink Жыл бұрын

@@ttpp3465Not a Yankee but anyway it applies to most Appalachian and a lot of Southern people yes. Hard to say but probably there are around 30 million Scottish Americans and many descend from ulster scots. The details are lost to time but that much is true. I personally don't give a damn where you come from or what you consider yourself

@m.c1754 5 жыл бұрын

Lovely poetry! :-)

@RollForever88 2 жыл бұрын

My granny and granda spoke like this. I spent a lot of time with them as a child and above all else, miss hearing their voice.

@crickkett7510 5 жыл бұрын

Has me missing my Scottish uncle. Loved him dearly. Thank You!

@darraghoneill4237 2 жыл бұрын

Never heard this language before and yet I understand every word of it , it clearly just English with an accent

@brandonashley5872 2 жыл бұрын

Scots is technically very similar to an older dialect of English with Gaelic words mixed in, so this would be an even more colorful version of Scots.

@user-tw3re9hg3j 2 жыл бұрын

They're clutching at straws calling it a language, it's basically an accent. It's as much a language as American or Australian is to English

@xSTARRYxEYESx 3 жыл бұрын

Actual linguists: "Ulster Scots has been officially recognized as a minority language" Random KZfaq comments section fuckheads: "iT's NoT a LaNgUaGe"

@user-tw3re9hg3j 2 жыл бұрын

It's recognised as a minority in the northern ireland to stop Unionists having an identity crisis meltdown. If this is a language then so is the North Dublin accent, South Dublin accent, Cork accent on the Island of Ireland etc etc. Let's just write English the way it sounds and call it a language, it's crazy

@MARTYC76 10 ай бұрын

Thon lingo is a lada auld ballix so it is hay.

@xSTARRYxEYESx 10 ай бұрын

@@user-tw3re9hg3j Scots has had parallel development with English since the Normans arrived in Scotland. It is recognized as a language in Scotland, why should it not be in Northern Ireland?

@user-tw3re9hg3j 10 ай бұрын

@@xSTARRYxEYESx the lines get blurred and it's recognised as a language in these areas for one reason only to try and form some sort of cultural balance and cultural identity. There is no universal criteria for defining and that's why these instances are getting through and I don't know who these actual linguists are you are referring to as if there is no clear criteria that means absolutely nothing . If I can understand every single word of it what does that tell you? Im fluent? there obviously hasn't been any divergence from the English language, there are no verbal structures or language systems that separate it from English to give it it's own identity. You may want to believe otherwise but it s simply a written accent I'm afraid

@DavidHughesss 8 ай бұрын

I somehow doubt that all linguists have the same opinion on this matter.

@brandonashley5872 2 жыл бұрын

I'm from Northern Alabama in the end of the Appalachian mountain range, The Appalachian accent is directly descended from the Ulster accent. Even here in Alabama an area that was mostly settled by English descent people before Celtic people the accent is dominated by Ulster influence. We pronounce a lot of words quite similarly. The best example of this are words like mirror and power. In Ulster they and Appalachia we both just say mir, and for power here in Appalachia it's typically pronounced pa'er ( pronounced similar to wow) while in Ulster it's said like par.

@achanneltruly5331 Жыл бұрын

That's all very true except for one thing; Ulster Scots is a Germanic tongue, not a Celtic one, and the people who speak it aren't Celtic.

@brandonashley5872 Жыл бұрын

@@achanneltruly5331 I was referring to the people Ulster Scots, not the dialectic of the language scots. Scotch Irish and Ulster Scots are used interchangably to refer to the Northern Irish protestant population that originally came from Scotland (hence them speaking Scots)

@achanneltruly5331 Жыл бұрын

@@brandonashley5872 Well, most Scots still aren't Celtic, unless they're apart of the 1.5% that do speak Scots Gaelic. I'd only call Scotland a Celtic nation in the sense that Cornwall and the Isle of Mann are - historically spoke Celtic languages, but almost no Celtic presence anymore

@dougcortes6567 Жыл бұрын

The Scottish folk who migrated to Appalachia came during the 1700s and 1800s from Ulster as well as from the Highlands. I don’t think there’s much argument that the Highlanders from the Clearances are Celtic, is there? In the USA, they especially went to the Carolinas, then many headed into the Appalachians and then westward from there, especially all over the Southern USA, (e.g., Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, Arkansas) and Ohio Valley. The vast majority of people in the South to this day are still of this heritage, and of course English, Irish, and Welsh, as well. Look up stats on the web and they are all over the place, though.

@achanneltruly5331 Жыл бұрын

@@dougcortes6567 Celtic is less an ethnic term and more of a linguistic term, by my understanding of it. I don't think anyone would agree that Highland and Lowland Scots are two different groups in any respect besides linguistic (and even then most Highlanders don't have any Gàidhlig). It just gets messy to refer to a Scottish-American as Celtic, because where do you draw the line for being Celtic? Cumbria spoke Cumbric for centuries - does this merit Cumbrians and the Cumbrian diaspora to be called Celts? What about Cornwall?

@tomgreene2282 2 жыл бұрын

Some interesting comments ..What are the numeric systems, the verb structures, plurals, tenses etc. I don't know can someone tell me ...een, feen, fethera, feen, fence...what is this in Ulster Scots? Some of the words I can see on the list seem to me to be just matters of accent or dialect and were in use in my home county in the 1950s.

@drrd4127 2 жыл бұрын

Een = Eyes Freen = Friend Faither = Father

@tomgreene2282 2 жыл бұрын

@@drrd4127 Thanks for that.

@GRIMSBONIAN13 3 жыл бұрын

My Granny spoke this language. My Siamese Cat was the Japanese kit

@PK-sc2vn 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose it's very difficult to dissect politics from language in this part of the world. I was very good at irish in school, but due to the fact that none of my friends/family speak it, I've definitely lost a bit of it. But I think its silly to say that my Ulster English isn't influenced in small part by scots, and of course the influence of irish in our everyday life. Just accept that if you're from NI, that we are all mixed and who knows where we all come from far enough down the line.

@sophiabreidfischer6242 11 ай бұрын

Thats important I think when we examine language and ancestry

@kayedal-haddad Жыл бұрын

Distinction between Ulster Scots and Scots?

@WeldersFSC 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy that the UK has so many languages throughout it

@christiankalinkina239 Жыл бұрын

You mean Ireland

@Sk8rGamer Жыл бұрын

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@ellencommons-harrell219 2 жыл бұрын

I am a tour bus driver and I say hello in over 20 different languages. Yesterday, a handsome guy tried to teach me to say hello in Ulster-Scots but I'm afraid to say it because I can't find anywhere to prove what he wrote down that said hello. I already know Giawich that's Gaelic.... If anyone can help if you know, I thank you ahead of time. He wrote Fair fag ye. ~ Ellen

@MARTYC76 8 ай бұрын

The greeting for hello in Irish is "Dia Duit"... pronunciation is "gee a ditch".

@stevoc9930 3 ай бұрын

The Ulster-Scots word for hello is ''Hello''.

@tgyuidlodka3850 Жыл бұрын

Acknowledged

@Zulanderr 3 жыл бұрын

Ive been trying to teach the wife a wee bit

@michaelhalsall5684 2 жыл бұрын

I have been watching the delightful "Derry Girls" series in which everyone speaks in a Northern Irish accent. I was surprised to hear the words "wee" and "wain" (wee yin) used regularly, which are considered uniquely "Scottish" slang words here in Australia. It appears that Ulster Scots has had a major influence on modern English in North Ireland.

@meyou-gi8xq Жыл бұрын

The Culshie Dictionary

@MARTYC76 10 ай бұрын

Thon lingo is a lada auld ballix so it is 😂

@producedbynorth2099 10 ай бұрын

Sims brought me here

@oisinmaccumhaill7037 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve lived in the north of Ireland my whole life, I’ve never taken an “Ulster Scots lesson”, yet I can understand all of what is being said in this video. That isn’t to say that Ulster Scots doesn’t exist. It definitely does. But it isn’t a language. It’s an accent. Or at the very most, a dialect.

@robmcrob2091 4 жыл бұрын

Do you speak a dialect of gàidhlig then?

@perthrockskinda2946 3 жыл бұрын

It's a dialect of Scots

@oisinmaccumhaill7037 3 жыл бұрын

Rob McRob I do not, friend. I was brought up speaking English. But I also speak the Irish language quite will through learning it at school and spending time in rural parts of Donegal.

@sylamy7457 3 жыл бұрын

This is a different language, not even close to an accent. The spelling is much different from English, an example of this would be the 'gh" in English, is "ch" in scots. The criteria for this to be considered a dialect is not met. Scots is simply closely related to English, it just wasn't effected by the Norman French conquest of England. As an American, I can understand maybe a few words per sentence, but it doesn't make sense to me, worse than a strong accent.

@perthrockskinda2946 3 жыл бұрын

Because Modern English and Scots BOTH came from the language of Middle English. Scots is a direct decent from MIDDLE ENGLISH NOT MODERN ENGLISH. You can understand middle English mostly right??? For example, Shakespeare. You can understand Shakespeare and he is talking an other language because modern English can sound similar but not the same!! It is normal to somewhat understand languages that are closely related to your own for example; Portuguese and Spanish, Deutsche and Dutch, Frisian and Modern English, Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic and the list goes on....

@dh8396 2 ай бұрын

It’s just Slang!!! 🙈

@darraghoneill4237 2 жыл бұрын

Does this mean that we have our own language in Cork , Munster Corks🤣

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@grahamcurtis1608 2 жыл бұрын

Accent and dialect maybe , but an actual language?? That's nonsense, if it was a language that would mean I'd be bilingual, cause I can understand it all, 😂😂

@baphomet66and6 2 жыл бұрын

It's a dialect of Scots I would think with other localised influences and loan words. Just like the Doric I speak has incorporated Scots Gaelic words and a few Norse words.

@drrd4127 2 жыл бұрын

As a Scottish person, the Ulster-Scots speak more standard English in their "Language" than most people in my scottish town and I still consider the way we talk is a dialect. You are only using Scots dialect to separate yourself from others in N.Ireland as unionist, it is nothing but a political move. Scotland is trying to turn Scots dialect into a language now they want independence but surveying Scottish people states 80% of Scottish people see the tongue as a dialect of English and not a language.

@cormacredmond1871 3 жыл бұрын

Ní teanga é seo ar chor ar bith! 😂 Gaeilge amháin atá mar theanga Cúige Ulaidh

@robmcrob2091 Жыл бұрын

Sure but not the weird import from Southern Ireland that you speak. The original (now extinct) Ulster 'Irish' was a dialect of Scottish Gaelic.

@cormacredmond1871 Жыл бұрын

@@robmcrob2091 ag cumadh Stair bréagach duit féin anois an ea? 😂 Maith an bhuachaillín, mar a dheirtear as Béarla "cope".

@robmcrob2091 Жыл бұрын

@Cormac Redmond No. The Eastern dialect of Ulster Irish is now extinct and was much closer to Scottish Gaelic than the language you speak. The Western dialect spoken in Donegal has at least as much in common with Scottish Gaelic as your Irish. In the 17th century Scots was considered a different language from English and both Irish and Scottish Gaelic dialects of Classical Gaelic. It's not that long ago. Language v dialect is about more than whether you can understand some of it. Is Afrikaans a different language from Dutch? Swedish from Norwegian? But you can think whatever you want. Cope indeed.

@evanduffy5310 2 жыл бұрын

It's literally just words with a heavy accent with a few made up slang words threw over it hahahahahaha

@gaelswag Жыл бұрын

Not a language

@martindennehy3030 4 ай бұрын

It's not a language, just badly spoken English by people who can't speak properly . You'll find it all around Ireland and the rest of the world. The poor kids are confused enough as it is.

@Paul78bcn 2 жыл бұрын

Language??? DIALECT

@triggerwarning7662 3 жыл бұрын

What is this white lady saying

@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын

It's basically just a Scottish and Irish accent mixed together with slang from the scottish lowlands and ultimately England, It's not a language.

@robmcrob2091 4 жыл бұрын

Is Afrikaans a different language from Dutch? Swedish from Norwegian? Ukrainian from Russian? What about Gaelic and Irish?

@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын

@@robmcrob2091 Gaelic is Irish. Gaelic refers to a branch of languages. Gàidhlig pronounced Gahlick is scottish, Gaylick is Irish, Gaeilge is the standard accepted dialect of Irish. The difference here is that Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic are not mutually understandable. Scots is just a accent of English.

@robmcrob2091 4 жыл бұрын

@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 Gaelic normally refers to gaidhlig but anyway, how good is your Irish? I have a native gaeilgeoir friend from Munster who had NEVER heard Scottish Gaelic before coming to Scotland. She could understand our version of Gaelic perfectly the 1st time she heard it, and Munster is the most different dialect from Gaelic. She couldn't understand people speaking broad Scots btw. And what about Afrikaans and Dutch or Swedish and Norwegian? Mutual intelligibility is 80%+ - are they languages or dialects?

@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 жыл бұрын

@@robmcrob2091 Gàidhlig speakers sometimes call their language Gaelic due to the popularity of the term especially in recent years, though Gaelic is ultimately a Irish term, but when people especially Americans mean Gaelic they actually mean Irish Gaylick. Not Scottish gahlick. I very much doubt you have a Gaeltacht speaker with you because I know some Irish and have met many Irish speakers who can't understand a word of Scottish Gàidhlig. Swedish and Norwegian are more distinct than scots to English, there was a time when scots was distinct from English but over the years it started becoming influenced from the motherland again(England) and so is now just a dialect. Where do you draw the line? is Hiberno-English a language? It has many left over old English words, ye, yiz, Ye'r ect.

@robmcrob2091 4 жыл бұрын

@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 I speak Swedish! Trust me, you can understand the kind of Norwegian they speak in Oslo. Danish is harder but still possible. I also speak Dutch. The kind of Afrikaans they read the news on TV in is perfectly intelligible. Why would I lie to you about knowing an Irish speaker? I'll share a show with you you might find interesting.

@rebeccalankford2652 3 жыл бұрын

What is the need to preserve a language that only serves to devide? In the global economy how is this going to assist the children in their future life, skill set needs and or personal development? All people have to evolve least they stay trapped and left behind. Free and Foward thinking is the only way to make a future. Government Religion Customs Culture Traditions All can be a blessing or curse. Unite or devide. Peace or turmoil. Life and death.

@rebeccalankford2652 3 жыл бұрын

@another pleb heritage is only as good as it serves a purpose to life TODAY. In the now. Time could be better spend on life skills and better relationships. 😉

@rebeccalankford2652 3 жыл бұрын

@streetmuggedbypolice Its not about shopping. However, money management does not hurt along with that gainful employment and investing for retirement. That said health and interpersonal relationships may be placed above money but I would not suggest living on the streets. 😉 Praticle life skills.

@LogHewer Жыл бұрын

If you worry for yourself, ma'am, and they worry for their own, then we'll all be happy.