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@@helvettefaensatan in a way it's a good thing

i think roglic knew how the 2 spanjards wouldn't play together, so he had to pace those 2 up the mountain. when he was really good he could have used those 2 while they were like 3 seconds in front all the time

@@robertdevries2045 no roglic just didnt feel good. Man was in his limit, not in a good way

IMO he didnt feel confident enough to go completely on his own. So he let RE pace not to lose Mas and Rog only decided for a couple of mins efford. Probably worried he goes with Mas he is efficiently chased by RE.

Watching Roglic when he was with Remco and O'Connor I was under the impression he was pretty cooked as well: I think he was able to distance Remco only because he was a little bit less cooked than him and he saved more energies

yeah, Roglic didn’t have enough recovery time after his Tour crash and it has hurt him this Vuelta. I’m impressed he’s doing as well as he is to be honest.

Mas needs a last hurrah from Valverde to help him to victory imo. El bala launching an attack on stage 20 for Mas to drop everyone :D

The Tour was epic this year though.

Idk watching JV drop pogi on the col du granon and then the hautacam was so entertaining this year and watching WVA just completely show out made every stage really fun to watch. There is still potential for some final week dramatics

Exactly! To me it was the smartest move of the day when Remco just let Roglic do his thing and not counter it at the expense of losing only a few seconds, but while gaining a day of perhaps fresher legs strategically before a rest day. Not one but two days of cooling out a bit for Remco just before the last week of racing. Dude has been racing like he's been doing it for decades. What a show he's putting on!

Almeida has that sprinting too

Super strong finish from Ayuso. Bit weird why he couldn't follow from the beginning

@@svencornelis7932 positioning

Pretty sure both are true. He prefers tempo rather than stop start so he should keep the pace constant

@@sean7098 Yup, me too.

Not in the Basque country stages

@@stefanjoeres7149 Nah he grew into the Vuelta, which he also has mentioned

I just wonder how much Soler has left in the legs. Been in multiple breakaways, had a miserable TDF…

Agree!

@@MangoJasssss well he should have enough to stop as soon as he was passed and help some

Roglic

He's a better climber than Dumoulin.

He definitly not on his best shape in this Vuelta but the man sure can come up from the back in the climbs! He does get caught out of position some times but he comes back almost everytime xD

Yes staying with Roglic was the right move because after Más attacked the pressure was also on Rogla to chase

Rogla will not chase Mas. He wants to win, doesnt care about 2 or 3. So he will let Evenepoel chase.

@@Draregkoeliekalie Maybe

imo he just made a mistake. i think mas is the better climber and mas has shown to have a good third week in him, he let both riders gain some time. he lost half his advantage on roglic in 2 days

@@Draregkoeliekalie Yeah 28000€ says your claim is complete bollocks.

The Galibier is below 8% and still legendary. Sierra Nevada is a similar climb: long, high altitude but not extremely steep. It's just not the best for a stage finish. Unfortunately the Vuelta usually has stages that have either a good final climb or a long, high altitude climb, but not both in the same stage like the Tour de France.

Agree Col du Granon was extremely steep and it was epic

@@DerMef the north side of the Galibier is 17km at 7% and that includes a false flat so much of it is actually 8%+. Sierra Nevada on the other hand is 21km at 7% but the first 5km average about 11% so in reality most of the climb even while at altitude is only 5-6%. Which makes a massive difference. The south side of the Galibier is also less steep but at least is regularly over 7-8% in the last kms. But I definitely agree that in Spain its hard to find a combination of long high altitude climbs and good final ones. Actually ignore what I said about Sierra Nevada according to the Vuelta website its actually 7.9% average not 6.9% as I had thought. Anyway the gradient is definitely still not as hard in places, where its only 5-6% in the middle of the climb.

That’s usually where aero still kind of matters

If he follows Mas, Roglic and O'Connor are in the wheel, Mas isn't going to pace him either, so he is having to start pacing again after closing Mas down and then maybe having to respond to more Mas attacks

🤣

It’s not too difficult tho. Pretty easy to control probably

@@l.v.3952 yeah but if teams think not too difficult, then those looking to take GC or top 10 try to create opportunities, which can lead to chaos etc and some interesting racing

Stage 17 10km at 5%, stage 18 13km at 5%, stage 19 9km at 5.3% 30km from the finish, stage 20 10.3km at 6.9% 8km from the finish. That are all climbs that are really suited to Evenepoel and were draft really matters so only with like mulltiple masive attacks and satalite riders that can provide draft on those 4% parts I don't see anyone gaining more than 20/30sec. So Roglic would have to do that on 3 stages to make up the difference. Evenepoel has this Vuelta almost in the bag.

Iter Britanniae? (Itinere is the abl. case, sometimes used without a preposition to indicate separation from a place)

@@ReVoltaire Google translate, because I am Latin illiterate

It actually made a lot of sense tactically

@@sean7098 I disagree. Could have done the same thing from behind and been able to see what was going on in front of him. He gained nothing by pulling.

i think jumbo is tired right now. they aren't their best

It was a plan that fell trough because ag2r paced therefore the couldn't stay ahead for long enough. And Sam Omen just pulled way to hard this is more a personal mistake than the teams i think.

they're missing Kuss for these kind of stages

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Če onaniraš.... še en zafrustriranec....

Look at the stages left. Its something Remco and Quick Step can control outside of stage 20. And there he "just" has to follow Roglic and Mas.

Hope he finds the strenght to attack again!

Stage 20 is a killer

The upcoming stages suit him better. Maybe He can regain some time there. Stage 20 He just have to follow.

@@fabiokrause10 i think remco migth win stage 20 he better in those races he won LBL and SAN Sebastion 2 hard 1 day races but much gone depend on his team

What’s Mas gonna do in week 3 at 2 minutes

@@inrising6658 attack early on Saturday

smh

Remco can handle Mas. In a grand tour the leader has to focus on the rider closest to him. Roglic.

He couldn't, he knew it. He would have crumbled

@@npa5825 this is the vuelta and mountain stages are running out!

@@Al-vw8qt so what? If he has no legs he can't attack. He is doing what he can. If he attacked earlier he could've finished 5 minutes behind.

He was at he limit and knew he could do only a few minutes at that treshold. Thus, he kept that time for the finish.

most of the stages up to stage 20 are pretty easy though. Stage 20 is definitely not.

He's pacing with a plan. What i think is remco is pushing 95 percent max.

The only option on thursday is an 80km raid and only if he can drop Remco at that point. I don't see it happening unless Remco cracks/has a really bad day. As for Saturday, he'll also need to go on the penultimate climb, and the stage overall doesn't really suite taking back a lot of time, unless you are just really dominant or someone again cracks completely.

Yes, the 3rd week is as easy as they come. There are 2 sprint stages, 2 hilly stages where it will be hard to gain any time, and the two mountain stages where there's not a single climb over 6%. Their PCS profile score is only 214 & 216. Compare this with the Giro, which had 4 significantly harder mountain stages and a 17 km ITT at the end. Or with the Tour, where there were 3 mountain stages, including 2 MTFs on Peyragoudes and Hautacam and a 41 km ITT. It's easy to see that the Vuelta's 3rd week is really "decaffeniated" compared to them, to quote Mas. Funny thing is, he didn't talk about this year's race but coined the phrase in 2020.

My point was more about Remco not having done this before…everyone just assumes he can hold up for 3 wks

@@rickhammel7907 We have neither the knowledge that he can hold up for 3 heavy weeks nor that he can't. One of the main questions people had was whether Remco could hold on for 3 weeks. The thing is that with the form he has shown the past 2 weeks and especially today, he'd have to absolutely crack in this very easy third week (for a GT) to lose 1:30. If this was a week like this TdF, it would be a completely different. We can say the same about Roglic, everyone assumes he can last for 3 weeks, despite a shitty preparation. Why? Because we have nothing to point to the contrary currently.

@@MDP1702 well, my 30 years of racing just doesn’t agree with your odd assertion “we can say the same thing for Roglic”…multiple GT top 10 finishes and won the Vuelta last year. Remco is on Mapei,,,so his “medical support” may carry him 😁

he is running out of mountains though

It is beginning to look that Remco is too good to beat in this vuelta We will see

Its better when he makes a Tempo hes Confident with, then trying to follow Roglic and crack completly. He did the right Thing. The last week isnt that hard anymore. The climbs suit him better. He just have to follow know.

The crash definitely did some damage

does he? he outsprinted him on climby finish in the first week

@@nonwatcher He was just fresher than the other two when he did that.

@@nonwatcher 3 times he outsprinted him so far

He doesn’t lack explosive power - take LBL - but he conserves more energy by tapping out a rhythm I think