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Please tell WVA this !

He did celebrate after, he posted a video on his channel why he doesn't celebrate on the finish line.

​@@bojandolinar1535 where can I find this video?

Did you see his ridiculous statement when HE crashed into Fred Wright in the Vuelta? No, he's not humble and collected

​@@briangoossens1519 yeah but most of the time he is. I think he actually thought he was doing right in that crash even if he clearly wasn't at all.

@@donpablo8459 he actually continued to state it was Wright's fault day's after the crash, and Jumbo visma backing him up. Even though the images were clear and so is his track record of going down. I do agree he is generally a calm looking guy but he's certainly not as much an angel as everyone makes him and Remco isn't the devil everyone sees in him either.

​@@briangoossens1519 found the Remco fanboy

Remco won't make that mistake again😂

This is the total opposite of a Sky train.

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 What mistake? The mistake of being weaker on the climb?

@@messifan1065 The mistake of launching too early, especially when the fatigue isn't there from a hard stage, like what was the case in stage 3. Remco did the better w/kg of the 2, Roglic just has a better punch (or he should at least) and Remco started the sprint too early, 300m is a very long sprint uphill (even on the flat it is on the long end).

@@MDP1702 He was trying to avoid the sprint, isn't it obvious? Because his sprint is worse than Roglic's...therefore he was trying to gap him before the pure sprint like he did successfully on stage 3. There is no way that a pro rider launches his actual sprint 300m on a 8% climb, that would be a mistake that your sunday rider makes.

I had to stop the video at that point hahahahhah

😂😂

As long as that’s the only thing he’s doing Pantani style…

Primoz core-stability Roglic

Bro take the top cyclists for how they are, it has always been one way and it still is the same way, amen.

Nice. 2 times a case of equally strong riders but the smartest won ( rare for Wout)

Correct. But now perhaps Crash time

@@paulsolon6229 dont spoil it, let the man have his season

@@AndrezzSpideyzzz misstatement in your comment: I have never spoiled anything about roglic, I admire no racer more than him. He himself and luck have done all the spoiling

@@paulsolon6229 i was once gambling and my friend did your same statement but in the context of gambling, next 3 turns i lost my money.

@@AndrezzSpideyzzz so? Are you really that superstitious w a name like Muhammad?

Tour will either be a massive battle between several riders close on time and all willing to risk everything to win, or it will be a snooze fest with everyone waiting until end of week 2 / week 3 to do anything. I am more hopeful for the Giro for sure!

No, I'm rarely excited about upcoming events, but I do enjoy the hell out the things that I like. So, yeah I will enjoy this year's Giro very much!

I'm hoping the Tour will be the Wout van Aert show for the first week just like last year. =D

I'm always more excited about the Giro than the Tour.

Every year, honestly.

Roglic has done an altitude camp in january/february (at least in february he was reported to be at Tenerife, around the same time as the other JV riders), likely even a longer one than Remco if he followed the same schedule as the remainder of JV somewhat. The same for Almeida, he did already do an altitude camp too I believe, though I can't directly find about him specifically, I just remember something said about Pogacar not having done altitude camp yet unlike most others on his team. Also Remco did something like 2 weeks before this, that is the time it takes to only really start to notice the effects, full effects are something after 4-6 weeks, which is why they planned to do another 2-3 weeks after this. Considering this performance was well above Roglic's normal peak performances, it is hard to believe he'll improve a lot after this. I think he's much closer to his peak than many seem to think. Definitely around his '22 vuelta level (imo possibly even better). Though he'll likely go to altitude camp again after this, so some improvement is possible (even if just to top it off again a bit)

In Remco's favour is his younger age so theoretically better recovery..but I wonder if both of him and Roglic are going too deep in this race...

@@ady38 I don't think they go too deep, there is still around 5-6 weeks to go after this and it will be a good prep. Most other giro contenders are here too, also going deep. Only G doesn't seem to go deep, though that is likely more from not being in good shape.

@@MDP1702 you could be right, but the risk in pushing so hard now is that they peak too early..we've seen it many times before. Also there's increasing evidence that less intense riding leading up to a big event improves performance.. Either way it'll be very interesting to see how it unfolds hey..I love the Giro!

@@ady38 Maybe, but imo this is more like hard training sessions. I feel like Remco isn't going fully in the red, except in the sprints, which shouldn't have lasting damage. He also took the Teide strava KOM, which also will have required a hard effort. And again, in this case nearly all giro favorites are here doing more or less the same high efforts. I think only Vlasov and Arensman are absent (neither of which I see as top spot contenders). Even if Roglic and Remco get a blowback, at worst they'll likely be on the same level as the others imo.

Just maths

Lol

I guess you missed some maths classes

iudex non calculat 😉

In Portuguese we call it the “Almeidada”

Not really imo.

Cycling in general has become so much more exciting the last 3-5 years. Couple of reasons: Ineos/Sky (the richest team by far) now has less than twice the budget of other teams. Other teams are no longer completely outgunned. Individual riders, such as van Aert and var der Poel, have stirred the pot, showing that high risk moves can pay off. This has inspired more riders. Teams are getting more creative with tactics, looking for every opportunity to gain an advantage. No more waiting for the big teams to make a move. We have several GC superstars battling for glory, and they come with different qualities, so they need to gain time on "their" stages.

It also helps that we have coverage of most races via gcn+ and channels like this to do post-mortem races dissections 😬

New doctors.

next to "hold on... I'm Clement Champoussin!"

well Pantani wasn't that good in sprints, he used to attack early on the climb

I dont get it, please explain!

It isn't a joke bro.

Evenepoel is overcheered by his fans and overcriticized by a lot of people... It becomes very toxic to speak about him, which is sad because there's a lot to talk about. I'm fully agree with you, he's still young so it's normal that he made mistakes. I don't see any problem for him to pace on the climbs. Last year on Vuelta he has made explode his opponents like this, and on La Molina it was a little bit the same. Huge pace by his team and huge pace from himself on perfect gradient for him. Today I think he made two mistakes. The sprint of course but for me, that's an understable mistake... so close to the line, is easy to lost your lucidity... and I think that Roglic was the best today. Meanwhile, his biggest mistake for me is when Almeida attack, he better have let Roglic do his job. Put the pressure on him "you're the leader, if I am 2 or 3 no matter, go on him" but he follows cause he wants the stage. For me, it would be more clever to let Roglic do the job. I don't think that have change a lot the result but for the future he must understand a little bit better this moments in my opinion. Like Pogacar, he's so strong that maybe he lacks a little bit of tactics sometimes, mindgame... but at 23 is logic too. The last two stages will be great... I think that even today's one... there are some opportunities. And Roglic's team is not there for the moment.

You answer your own question, he get critics for one reason or another, because he is still young and needs to learn the timmings. Sometimes the race ask you to pace, others ask you to not pace, plus the viewer also have a different opinion depending on the outcome, as i'm sure the riders after seeing the results think they could've done things different. And remco ,imo, had a "bad" spotlight to soon called lefevere, he didnt protect him enough to than unleash him... and a lot of critics are still from that times, because he may be young, but he is not a prospect rider anymore, he already his one of the best in the world. Primoz have another maturity, he already won a lot but also lost a lot "that was his already ", and even the team he is, already lost a lot by small mistakes or because the wanting to keep pushing all the time, so we saw primoz being "smart" against the "naive" remco. I agree that vingegaard has a huge advantage in having primoz on the team, but i think that both are where they are because of the team. Jumbo is the The Team right now (sky/ineos and jumbo last 10 years can really set roles to the riders and they give it all on that roles).

Biggest issue for Remco's experience.is that he's a football player gone cyclist. It still really shows that he can sometimes fall for the silliest tricks as a rider. He wasn't raised through the normal rider ranks

It's not like there are 2 options, there are more. Sit back when strategically possible. Otherwise pace, accelerate when needed, time your sprint for exactly all remaining energy left.

@@SomeBadStuff999 Ooh I was one of the first to point out has tactical mistakes all week. No worries. I am not saying you are not allowed to criticise. I am just amazed that there is this whole spectrum around Remco. From almost religious worship to unending criticism and bordering on statements about his so called bad character. It is amazing. Everybody seems to find something in him to relate to. 😃

3 minutes gained in stage 13, no problem ;)

Yeah, he really has nothing to lose by trying at this point. So I hope he does. It will need to come as a surprise though since he'll need some initial seperation. So maybe have his team make the race hard, do a fake attack like he can't get away, sit up and wait a bit, and then go again a bit later.

Yes full send a long way out seems to be Remco’s modus operandi when he wants to make a statement

Good observation

Considering he did his best w/kg ever, I don't think his engine broke, more that some others performed well above expectation and Remco messed up the sprint: 300m uphill full is deadly for most riders, considering Remco has just "gotten" his punch, that distance was definitely too much for him. I think Roglic' faint worked handsomly here making Remco think Roglic was on the limit.

@@MDP1702 Remco's plan was to distance Roglič and then to celabrate from 50m to the finnish (as on stage 3) ;)

He lacks the sprinting experience since he didn't really have one in the past, this is why he often had to secure GC in a TT in the past or by a solo attack on a hilly/flatter stage when facing good climbers. This Catalunya is a great learning experience for him towards the giro (and after).

for me at the same level pogacar and roglic (but he now is 33 ages -.-) after , vingegard and remco

Remco nearly got in the top 25 best (known) w/kg performances today? Current day opposition is one of the reasons Merckx isn't expected by many to do as great today vs his palmares from the past.

Hahaha. For me Roglic is the most meme-able cyclist. Love that guy he's so good for the sport.

Yes

Basically flat beforehand then a steep climb to finish - “one climb” from Spanish

Great question, great answer 👍

He uses different bikes depending on terrain. Remco is faster on flatter stages, where you'll see Roglic on the S5. That doesn't say anything bad about the S5, just Remco is faster on that terrain (by a little bit)

Relax😂

I am cool now , I just was not happy if I saw the title ; See yah@@user-vm5qf4qk4t

BTW this is a verry old message ;-) @@user-vm5qf4qk4t

He's still in preperation. He is already near their level. Expect another attack gapping everyone followed by consolidation

He's already at their level, all he's missing is the uphill kick which Roglic and Pogacar are famous for. As things stand, Remco might have a better punch than almost all other top GC riders, which is crazy considering he had no real kick to speak of 2 years ago.

Maybe not Pogacar, Roglic and Vingegaard. But he's already won the Vuelta and has already shown he can stand his own on the long climbs. And nowhere near the level of ALL the good gc riders? What? To say he's nowhere near their level , is ridiculous

@@VoLcKEA1 The climbing level he's shown suggests he might be able to compete against the ones you mentioned too. I think the main thing Pogacar and Roglic are really still better at is their kick, as get shown here. Take away Roglic's kick and Remco might have won every stage here so far except for yesterdays sprintstage. In terms of climbing, TT, ... he should be competitive against them. The only real thing people think might be a weakness is a hard 3rd week, but that is mostly due to a lack of proof for a strong 3rd week, then proof against it. Most things suggest it shouldn't be a problem imo.