Large 8 Battle Born battery 2 Victron Multipas 2000 watt solar off grid RV Install

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One of my first video's please bare with me. My customer wanted to have a fully off grid power system but also wanted to run both AC's and have power left over. I've installed many Inverters and battery systems but this one was quite large. I know I made some mistakes along the way but overall it turned out very well. Yes I know the wiring got a bit cramped, I should have expanded my install area. I have 35 years experience with electrical systems but I will never consider myself and expert as I learn new things every day. This install has lead to others contacting me for help and I look forward to and hope to make more videos of my work. Please I welcome the comments but please keep the language clean. And if you don't like what I did that's fine also I just ask you keep any Rudd comments to yourself. Blessings and if your watching this today, I wish you a very blessed Easter day :)

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@Zanezach 3 жыл бұрын

Sir, you are too humble. Your video is great. The install is fantastic. Clever use of the CB-approach to the antennas. Caring enough to layout the roof in such a way others can come behind you and get their work done speaks volumes to your work ethic. I have seen a LOT of installs, and this one is top notch. I learned something new too, and it is such a great idea. With as much wattage as your customer is generating, that 30A buddy plug is super smart. That alone was worth the view. keep the vids AND ideas coming. SUBSCRIBED!

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I need to do more videos. Problem is I move very fast. By the time I think to make a video I'm done and gone.

@a64738 3 жыл бұрын

Crammed cables = saves space and less loss :) Beautiful install this.

@mr.p960 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful solar install WOW!

@Myoung2u 2 жыл бұрын

Wow this is great!! Nice clean install. Would love to have you do a solar install on our coach.

@thirdeyesamuel886 3 жыл бұрын

Great installation, looking forward to future videos and education

@moretoliving2236 3 жыл бұрын

This is like bringing a spaceship to a stick fight. Holly wow! Nicely done indeed. My main concern would be exceeding tongue weight of the tow vehicle. All that weight. I hope they have a proper vehicle for all that. Has to be like a 1500 lbs on the tongue with all that weight up front.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

We calculated around 600 lbs for the batteries, inverters, panels. Of course wire, plywood, brackets all add up also. And the generator. I think 1500 would be on the high side. Probably more like 1200. Buy still a lot of extra weight.

@rubenarana7899 3 жыл бұрын

Very impressive installation, you the man..!!!

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@patmitskey839 2 жыл бұрын

PARTNER, I'm amazed!!! If money is not the issue... Bill Gates, would like you to build, his grid!!!!

@nathanbrown9269 3 жыл бұрын

Don is great at this!! Best trouble shooter too.

@josephmoreschi5932 3 жыл бұрын

I love how neat and organized the system is and well thought out all the components are. Have had Don work on my coach and am always impressed by his knowledge. Probably the most satisfying aspect of working with Don is his ability to explain how the systems work and his willingness to share his thoughts

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Joseph. Your definitely one of my fun customers for sure.

@miguellombana9847 2 жыл бұрын

Crazy insane! Great work and excellent job showcasing!

@robertsmithingnp1938 3 жыл бұрын

Good job for your first vid especially. Antenna placement with spring bases was rad. We all would do things differently after we get done so don't spend much time on that. I would be interested in the thought behind how you got to what you installed and why you picked the manufacturer you did. Liked the forethought in layout on the roof to allow for service afterward.

@rcwrightjr8787 2 жыл бұрын

It was nice meeting you today. I was wondering when Kevin and I get done with my Solar install if you could come out and check if everything is okay. We should have it up and running in a few weeks.

@kevinhenson942 3 жыл бұрын

Great work 👍🏽

@straightshootskeet 2 жыл бұрын

Super impressed thank you

@bjornbevenborn1315 2 жыл бұрын

8 battle borns in parallel. holy insanity. this thing is awesome, but as others have mentioned, this really should be a 24 or 48 v system. This thing will run hotter than it needs too.

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I agree. Pro's n Con's to each method.

@petitchenil 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and install; keep it going.

@craighenderson1645 2 жыл бұрын

I hope we get that kind of quality work when we have our install done!!

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Have we spoken? Who is doing your install ?

@craighenderson1645 2 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Don't know yet. We are still waiting on the RV.

@naui2 2 жыл бұрын

Dang! You da man! 👍👍

@drinkinslim 3 жыл бұрын

This was fantastic. Plus, you're the only guy we've seen who puts in a comprehensive (or even any) fan-driven ventilation. People generally don't even think about the heat these systems produce, especially when you add hot summer temps. Question though: the RV power outlet you added to the rig: how do you get 3000 watts out of it? Aren't those Victron 3000 MultiPluses only 2400W continuous output? I'm pretty sure.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

3kw was just a number based on the inverters. 3000 would be max brief draw really. One would have to be careful of course. Customer is intending to just use his rv cord and run it into his garage and run like fridge/freezer and whatnot while rv is parked there. Why not, it litullery cost bout $30 in parts and he can take advantage of the system while not using the rv.

@harold-miller 2 жыл бұрын

Tech: So how much are you looking to spend on this project? Customer: Yes Nice install, man!

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha. That pretty much sums up our cost conversation for sure. Just do it was the theme.

@marginbuu212 2 жыл бұрын

Nice. Well done and very clean install.

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@RVingwithG 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy all this and yet lack the true knowledge to install it. I do have 1,005 watts of solar and 300 amps hours but need to have it rewired into my system.

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in Yuma AZ in winter if ur close

@jimbob3030 3 жыл бұрын

With this much investment they'd be way better off, way quieter, way more energy efficient having switched to a mini split heat pump and ditched the super noisy super inefficient roof mount a/c's.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. But time restraints and physical space inside limited those ideas. Customer is on opposite side of the US from me. I learned a lot on this and several things I'd do differently of course.

@rickhudson6890 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Job!

@wipatriot510 2 жыл бұрын

Customer would've been better served by a single MultiPlus II, instead of dual MultiPlus...there are several things that could've been done differently, more "elegant", but the install is clean and concise...this is what happens when the 'customer" gets involved in choosing the components instead of letting the professional choose the components... Overall, it's a great install...

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Yes customer had ordered parts before me and the Plus 2 was not ready to ship yet. Yes learned a lot. Many things I've already done differently and in future builds.

@yyl3683 2 жыл бұрын

Great information!

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@mannysthings6229 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@royblackburn1163 2 жыл бұрын

If it's being used in a cold climate, can you blow the hot air into the living area.

@livinganewdream3682 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how you have the two Victron Inverters programmed, but setting one up in Master mode, and the second in slave mode allows my Color GX to control both inverters. You do need to plug one Victron into the other via an ethernet cable. The two will then recognize each other and cooperate together as one (after some setup with a laptop). In 50a split phase mode, the Color GX will show the L1/L2 power draw separately on the display.

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Yes was learning. Next system ill do like that. This guy is opposite corner of the US from me. We discussed making the changes but he Is comfortable with how it's running now and does what he needs.

@FishOn831 2 жыл бұрын

You are Amazing

@nickrica7501 3 жыл бұрын

Love the custom work and problem solving. Did you consider a hybrid inverter system to dial back the power draw with the generator for charging?

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Hybrid ? Well these victrons are pretty much hybrid already. They are charger, inverter, and assist inverters. And yes they can be dialed down a bit which customer does when on 30 amp power or generator. Because the two units both charging at full power is nearly 30 amps full.

@nickrica7501 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Two inverters is beyond my understanding of how they hook up and how to use/charge with them. That is a BIG system. I use a Magnum 3012 www.continuousresources.com/products/magnum-msh3012m-3000w-off-grid-hybrid-inverter With a remote controller to dial up/down my draw when using my 2k Honda generator or when I plug into standard household current for Mooch docking. www.continuousresources.com/products/magnum-me-rc50-digital-lcd-remote-with-50-cable Easy to make adjustments for varying circumstances from inside my 5th wheel. We have 1200 watts of solar and 500 amp hours of lithium. Many of my other components are Victron, good stuff. I run my air conditioning with my little Honda and get extra power (through the hybrid inverter) from my batteries as needed.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@nickrica7501 Ya Magnum inverters are great and my preference for RV'S because they are simpler to operate and usually physically fit into the same area that the xantrex units are. Victron is great stuff but their market is more to ppl who really understand such systems. And yes the victron acts just like the Magnum Hybrid units.

@nickrica7501 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky I am thinking about getting a Li-Bim or DC to DC charger installed. Where are you located? I have asked several shops about doing this modification so that I can charge while driving and I am getting funny looks. My alternator is OEM and more than a dozen years old, might upgrade that too. So far I haven't needed extra charging but retirement is soon and the rig will get more of a workout with dry camping.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@nickrica7501 I'm in Eastern WA summer, Yuma AZ winters.

@naiwen 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice build! I would love to have you work on my system too if you are taking appointments :)

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Where u located? I'm thinking about doing more for sure.

@naiwen 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Bay Area in California, my Instagram is vandyssey.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@naiwen Sorry I'm in Eastern WA. I am in Yuma AZ in the winters which is a bit closer to you. I'm considering taking on some on the road installs but still trying to figure out the logistics of such.

@naiwen 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky No worries,let me know if you do head to NorCal in the future :)

@DirectCurrent4u 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Very nice install. Really nice seeing custom and very clean work! Great Job. Just wondering if You are dumping Your extra power like for cooling fans or anything like that? Thanks for sharing and God Bless...😎👍

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that. Not as of yet.

@DirectCurrent4u 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Thanks for your reply. With a system with that much extra power and storage you could use it for cooling fans or heating during the winter. Etc… Really awesome work! Thanks again for sharing. And keep up the good work… DC

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@DirectCurrent4u Ya one can think/dream up all kinds of ideas. But limited in time and knowledge of operators etc. I did do the extra outlet just for such. If customer was closer to me I'd probably expand on the system with several ideas. ... Next customer maybe...

@DirectCurrent4u 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Very true! lol Wish You the best on Your next RV PV Solar System You design and install. Really hope You will have the time to put it on KZfaq! By the way, those T Style Fuses are the only way to go! A little pricy but well worth the extra money. (IMHO) Thanks again for the update.👍

@Drvinnieboombatts Жыл бұрын

All that for that small TT

@joseph4285 3 жыл бұрын

could you give a parts list of this system I'm interested in this size system for my 42ft 5th wheel

@SylwerDragon 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video I don't know why but i think you could parallel those two inverters and you didn't. but i'm not so sure if it is only for 5kw versions only.. .

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

There are a few different configurations options each with pros n cons. This customer is not electrically inclined so I wanted to attempt to keep the system as easy to operate as possible. And when plugging an rv into a 50 amp service then are on split phase. I wanted to reduce any possibility of a electrical conflict. I'm still learning these as well.

@JantzRoadTrippin 2 жыл бұрын

Just subscribed. Great video. I want to put basically the same system on our rig. What would it cost to install?

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Contact me if like help.

@RollinHomies 3 жыл бұрын

One big flaw with their inverters is the working space for the AC wires. Almost impossible to get any 6/3 SOO wire in there! And no one ever, in any review video, talks about it. Another flaw with the Touch 50 is the USB and HDMI preinstalled wire. It’s about 3’ long, which requires you to buy additional length of usb and hdmi wires to use it (in my case, my power plant is about 20’ from where I want to mount the TOUCH 50). I also would like for KZfaq creators to actually discuss weather or not some of this equipment is necessary or just for show.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Yes 100% agree. The space for the AC wires is just stupid small. I had to extend the cables to the touch 50 (which I think is WAY overpriced given its size). The hdmi extension worked fine but usb did not. I ended up using a USB car charger hardwired to 12v source near the touch. Works fine that way and honestly I had anticipated that as usb does not like long distance. I did know I was gonna make a video, so I did things for show yes but really are not any unused or un nessessory parts in this system just for show sake. Thanks for the feedback 🙂

@ericvandenhoek2978 2 жыл бұрын

I know this has been a bit - can you expand on the AC "integration" box you built under the inverts.. thanks

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Customer still has generator so needed an ATS switch. And since the victron units have very little room in them for the AC wires, I just ran those wires to this larger box I used and put the ATS in the same box. Using it as junction box and it really helped.

@tinyhouseonwheelsireland 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice looking system, I"ve some questions for you about the battery protect. How are you using the battery protect here? is it just for direct dc loads? I've read that a battery protect should not be used with inverters with the exception of using the remote on/off switch to control the inverter. do you have the inverter dc power running through the battery protect?

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

The battery protect goes between the batteries and the RV's 12v system only. They are a single direction devise. So no current can flow back. As such cannot use them for an inverter/charger. It basically just shuts off the power to the rv 12v systems if the voltage drops to low. Honestly I think it's a bit unnecessary as the batteries internal bms should to the same thing.

@tinyhouseonwheelsireland 2 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Thanks for the quick response, another question if you don't mind answering please, the positive output going from your mppt charge controllers to the battery, are you routing those cables through the battery protect?

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

@@tinyhouseonwheelsireland no. Nothing can feed power back through the battery protect. It's a one way devise. Since its solid state it's using a transistor/Moffett or something internal that will not allow reverse current flow. So anything that's gonna charge the batteries need to be on the battery side of the protect devise.

@robertamadiz2692 3 жыл бұрын

Great Job on Video!! Are you in the east coast? Or do you know of someone you can recommend for battery upgrade to my class A MotorHome. Thanks

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry I'm on west side.

@RollinHomies 3 жыл бұрын

If have the cerbo Gx does it eliminate the need for the BT dongle for the inverters?

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. U can connect pretty much everything via cat 5 to the cerbo and controll everything from it. I will say however the display controls are a bit clunky, and instead of an app that controls the cerbo, you have to do controls through the Porta. I hope they create an app and smooth out some of the controls.

@reefkeep2 2 жыл бұрын

If you wouldn't mind listing the materials and build in the comments below, thx

@Crossloves4444 3 жыл бұрын

How much you charge for a set up i want u to do mines

@andyh8638 3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@alonzodesantis6989 3 жыл бұрын

Great video curious to know why you went with a 12 volt instead of a 24 or 48 volt system

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

Customer had already picked out/ purchased most of the parts. And he lives opposite side of US as me. When ppl seek service it's hard to fine people who will work on a 24v system. But I think my next large system will be 24v.

@alonzodesantis6989 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky couldn't you just configure a 24 or 48 volt system with the equipment

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@alonzodesantis6989 Yes and no. A lot of Victron stuff is universal, but their inverters are not. Looking back and further experience I'll do several things differently including the voltage. This one I was very limited on time also. I had to overnight a few parts as it was.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@alonzodesantis6989 some of it yes, but the inverters have to be ordered specifically for 12 or 24v

@cswhiteleytx 3 жыл бұрын

What temps were you seeing on the positive and negative cables during high load inverting?

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

I did not measure actual temperature. But with both AC's on and running for some time the cables do get warm to the touch but nothing alarming. I did originally have ANL fuses inline and they did get alarmingly hot as they cannot dissipate the heat. I switched to T type and again warm but certainly no issue.

@cswhiteleytx 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Thank you sir....I have close to the same set up and when running ~ 3,100 watts between both inverters, the positive cables are ~ 110 - 115F...warm not hot; the negative cable from the batteries (6x) in parallel to the shunt runs ~ 140F - 150F...not sure why so much higher temp as I am running 4/0 cable double crimped (hydraulic crimper) on all 4/0 cables. Past the shunt the negative cable tot he Lynx Power in is ~ 95F and the cable ground to the frame is about 90F. All connections have been checked and torqued to spec. Have you seen this issue before? I also use the same t-400 fuse assemblies without issue.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

@@cswhiteleytx any connection adds resistance which means heat loss. But also it quite normal. All electrical systems give off heat. Just have to keep everything tight and clean. Check your bolted connections a few times as heat Expansion can stretch things a bit.

@cswhiteleytx 3 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Appreciate the confirmation...have posed this question to other installers and either they don't understand cable resistance / heating or do not want to show a lack of expertise. Will examine heat expansion of the lugs and retighten where needed; Victron even made comment that 630 AH of battery may be too much for the MBMV 712 and recommended the 1000 Amp Smart Shunt...they neglected to factor in the maximum output of both inverters at any time is ~ 5,400 watts which is within the limits of the 500A shunt...wont be reaching that level of power even with both AC's running.

@miguelv431 3 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me the model or link of that dc circuit breaker ?

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure which your referring to I have several there. I just search online but I try to stay with better brands like bussman, blue sea, midnight. Avoid the cheap ones.

@RVSparky 3 жыл бұрын

What voltage, amp you seeking ?

@darrylt5300 2 жыл бұрын

Where are you located and are you for hire for lobs like this?

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

Eastern WA in summer and Yuma AZ in winter. I'd love to do more of these installs for people it's just figuring out the logistics of such.

@darrylt5300 2 жыл бұрын

@@RVSparky Well my daughter lives in Deer Park WA and I visit her at times and my friend has a 20 acre ranch just 8 miles south of Quartzsite AZ and I stay there during the RV show.

@RVSparky 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrylt5300 ah yes. I'm in Spokane. But headed to Yuma Nov 1st.