Large Rifle Primer Evaluation using 308 Winchester

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Large Rifle Primer Evaluation using 308 Winchester

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video we evaluate the performance of 5 different primers in 308 Winchester using Hodgdon Varget.
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@slightenigma 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for looking at Winchester primers

@BoltActionReloading 4 жыл бұрын

Realistically I would like to test everything, but I have limitations. Glad you got to see what you were looking for.

@redleg1013 4 жыл бұрын

The most consistent I've found (but can't get anymore) are Tula primers, stupid hard cups though. As far as the primer comparison, Mic McPherson did a huge test showing which primers were hotter, consistent, etc.

@tnreloader8236 4 жыл бұрын

The way things are now if you can get your hands on any primers you better grab them up. All the stuff going on has ammo and reloading supplies in short supply.

@BoltActionReloading 4 жыл бұрын

I have ordered what I wanted to pick up online. Not my favorite option, but I found what I was looking for.

@njgrplr2007 4 жыл бұрын

When fire forming new brass my SDs are almost always terrible regardless of the brass brand or caliber. For that reason, I don't put a lot of stock in the initial velocity readings. However, on the second firing I know I'm going to get the headspace and neck tension I want.

@BoltActionReloading 4 жыл бұрын

I agree that fire forming is not the ideal time to test, but you have to do it sometime. (keep in mind though the brass is only growing about .003 with our first firing too) I also think that the results are not an accident. This is mostly to pick a path. When we get to the next stage and lower SD's are achievable we know we picked correctly. If not pick a new path.

@hectorpascale1013 Жыл бұрын

@1:34 The Remington 9 1/2 Large Rifle have the stamp of the german proof office in Munich on it, so this batch was intended for sale in Germany

@Dwayne7834 4 жыл бұрын

Good video and information. I load my 7.62 x 39 . Tried some Tula using a couple different powder. And use some rem large primers and had much better grouping than Tula . So primers can make a big difference. Thanks for your videos

@ToadleyBrowne 4 жыл бұрын

Those S+B's sure look good. Your visual images and narration are very enjoyable to learn from. Thanks for taking the time. Have a good Sunday.

@BoltActionReloading 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Toad. Glad you enjoy it.

@Win94ae 4 жыл бұрын

Varget is a bit fast burning for 30-06, IMR & H4350 is a lot better suited. I used to use Varget, until I tried the better suited powders. S&B primers look to be great! Thanks!

@BoltActionReloading 4 жыл бұрын

I have had better Sd's with H4350 no doubt, but slightly better accuracy from Varget. I wanted to find a better primer so I don't have to choose.

@ironDsteele 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how the CCI primers would have stacked up.

@johnl5974 4 жыл бұрын

another well thought out informational video - thanks.

@deonnel2810 2 жыл бұрын

I'm starting to reload and find your channel super awesome! Do you perhaps have any experience with Sellier and Bellot cases for reloading? Lapua cases are extremely expensive her in South Africa.

@randysmith8604 28 күн бұрын

The primers have pressure signs. We only use 44.9 grns for a 150 grn bullets. Thats shoots a consistent 2800 with a 22 inch barrel. Maybe my teacher thought me Wrong but he said never have primers like yours????? Can you explain that.

@lesbutler62 4 жыл бұрын

I am surprised that CCI primers were not included in the testing.

@BoltActionReloading 4 жыл бұрын

I have tested other CCI primers with varget before wit sub optimal results,. I had not tested these 5 so that is why they were selected.

@jasonweishaupt1828 Жыл бұрын

My book calls for mag primers. I use mag or mil spec.

@pickin4you 4 жыл бұрын

Why no CCI primers???? for small rifle, the Remington 7 1/2 is best in all I have ever tried, but in large rifle, either Federal 210M or CCI BR-2 or standard CCI primers rain supreme, and you do not have either of them. I have never had luck with any Winchester primers. WE had a gun shop that only dealt in match rifles, and the only primers he carried were Federal 210M's, CCI standard and BR-2, and Remington 7 1/2 primers.

@armedfarm3429 25 күн бұрын

Use which ever one you can get.

@MsDynnez Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend using the Winchester Large magnum rifle Primers and Varget with 178 ELDXs? Has anyone used these primers and had good groups?

@markk9794 2 жыл бұрын

I would be really interested to see some study of primers versus altitude. With the lower levels of oxygen at which I live (7,200) I suspect that I should be using magnum primers where others use normal primers. I think my loads need the extra kick in the butt for full oxidation.

@endutubecensorship 2 жыл бұрын

From what I understand your altitude from sea level makes a difference in air density, effecting how the projectile flies through thinner air. Powder contains it's own oxygen supply, thats how you can fire under water for example.

@1917jmb 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, as usual! ! I also have QuickLoad (QL) and something I'm seeing on a given load is that case volume will have an effect. I'm see a difference of + or - 1 gr/H2O on the Starline brass I'm using. Have you volume tested any of that Lapua, and if so, how did it look?

@DanielBoone337 3 жыл бұрын

I managed to find a few hundred CCI 7.62 nato primers and I've heard they're a hotter then normal large rifle primer so that got me wondering if they could be used in place of magnum primers???

@havocsquad1 4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious what the small rifle primer test would end up being with Varget.

@braddaktar1182 4 жыл бұрын

You really need to use small primer brass it vastly improved my 308

@braddaktar1182 4 жыл бұрын

I also use Magnum srp

@senster7717 3 жыл бұрын

Federal Gold Medal Match primers best primers ever for 308

@mftoutdoors7483 Жыл бұрын

what do you consider the best one. i started reloading and cant find any but 9 1/2 in large.

@radoslawk7679 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! Question: If you find good combination of powder and primer. How much this "good finding" can be effected with change of bullet? or change of brass? would you say it is rather universal or if I find good combination when test are done with Hornady 155 gr. it can not be taken into Scenar L? of course I understand that amount of powder will change for different weight... but will good combination of powder and primer stay? thanks in advance for answering. This is really great channel. regards

@BoltActionReloading 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, as far as charge weights they will change with the projectile. As far as the powder primer combo I would assume that they would still play together well. (at least that has been my finding)

@mikejackson6591 4 жыл бұрын

Im using 168 grain hornady bthp 8208 imr and im wondering are 215m primers to hot. Assuming I stay at suggested 39 to 43 grain powder charges

@mikejackson6591 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry I'm.firing a 308

@EdAb 4 жыл бұрын

I'm #1, I'm #1, I'm #1... :-)

@Thoseaboutto911 3 жыл бұрын

I would like either a video or your comments on a situation where you have only one primer available to you. Then how do you select the right rifle powder based off the test results of the first powder you selected?

@BoltActionReloading 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Wes, This is a very interesting topic with probably not the clearest answer. Any chance you have a specific application that you are interested in? Varget has been one I have struggled to find ultimate consistency of ignition with, but I am thinking of doing some neck tension testing to see how this affects it as well. I have always been a proponent of trying a few different ones and see what works best, but its not exactly practical at this point.

@Thoseaboutto911 3 жыл бұрын

Just like your, I want the most accurate load. Unlike your other videos where the Primer is the variable. What about the powder as the variable and the primer as the constant?

@bugmouthready529 3 жыл бұрын

Good ol made in Australia Varget

@terrycostakis6284 4 жыл бұрын

Because you had what you consider sub optimal results with CCI primers in the past is no reason not to include them in the head to head test here. Also, which primers did you use? I’ve achieved an SD of 4+ with Varget, Lapua brass, SMK 168gr projectiles and CCI benchrest primers in my MDT ESS Savage 308.