Last Of The First - NIMO Tube Prototypes!

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Fran Blanche

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Thanks again to Joe Velas for the impossible chance to show these last-of-their-kind relics to the history of display technology. Perhaps the last NIMO tube video I will make, but what a series it has been indeed. Enjoy!
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@Bisqwit
@Bisqwit 3 жыл бұрын
That is some very pretty one-digit display.
@jamesharris9352
@jamesharris9352 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder How Perfect The Display Had To Be? It's Very Legible In My Opinion... Love Your Project Builds Fran... Do Another! 😉👍 Blessings James 🌈
@gork42
@gork42 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Velas thanks for sharing these with us by way of Fran, and thanks for your work. These are truly splendid devices!
@markpitt5248
@markpitt5248 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about this video is that it gives a little insight into probably why Nimmo tubes didn’t take off. They have manufacturing difficulties with gun alignment that means expensive rejects and the round form factor was becoming old hat for numeric display systems.
@SuprSi
@SuprSi 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fran, and Joe Velas for his high quality unobtanium donation. It was really cool to see these working!
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pitty they stopped Telefunken prodicing the rectangular Nimo's, there could be quite a lot around by now.
@7head7metal7
@7head7metal7 3 жыл бұрын
"You never know, what's gonna be on the bench in the FranLab" This is more than enough to get my inner child's curiosity going. Let's explore funky electronics! I wish there was something like this on TV when I was a kid. This could inspire so many more
@michaelardai9703
@michaelardai9703 3 жыл бұрын
I just checked my pile of stuff; I have an IEE rectangular NIMO (6100-31-0006) with the IEE driver board, so there are a few out there...
@Dark_eVader
@Dark_eVader 3 жыл бұрын
Does it still work good?
@loukashareangas4420
@loukashareangas4420 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you know who you can send it all to...
@derekaggs11
@derekaggs11 3 жыл бұрын
I’m imagining Fran building a clock with a row of tiny B&W camcorder viewfinder CRTs.
@keithyinger3326
@keithyinger3326 3 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of the tiny crt tube i have out in my shed. It came from a mini oscilloscope, so it should be a green display tube. I haven't even looked at in years to recall if there's any numbers on it or not. Maybe i should go dig it out. Could be some rare old tube or something.
@tommyb.6064
@tommyb.6064 3 жыл бұрын
What about finding 4 12 inches color crt the same model and two miniature ones for the middle dots. That would make a heavy clock assembly but would be nice. Ideally, the crt would had to be driven by vector processor rather than bitmap
@aserta
@aserta 3 жыл бұрын
Classic case of tunnel vision. Whilst Telefunken lifted the design, IEE really should've just told them to pay royalty and produce under their license. Everyone would've benefited from this. I'm pretty sure tho, this might have to do with the lawyers and their usual advice. One of the reasons i dislike predatory folk in that branch of work. Their actions destroy quite a lot of things.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 3 жыл бұрын
maybe they gave TFK that option? but they refused??
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 3 жыл бұрын
"Please don't blow up!" This is my mantra ever time I turn on a project :) Disassemble? No disassemble!!!
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that apprehensive feel on the 1st smoke test! I always keep on the edge with one hand on the power supply that I don't take off until I see it actually working. Usually even turning it right off if it doesn't work right away, who knows if it's a short just beginning to heat up before blowing up stuff or if it was just a lose wire.
@TatsuZZmage
@TatsuZZmage 3 жыл бұрын
No disassemble number 5.
@ethanpoole3443
@ethanpoole3443 3 жыл бұрын
Reassemble, Stephanie!
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 3 жыл бұрын
These are so cool! I definitely think you're right about the rectangular nimo tubes, the round ones look so much more clunky in comparison. The picture showing the array of rectangular tubes makes them look much more efficient, and I'm gussing it's easier to read when they're not as spread out as they would be with the round tubes.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 3 жыл бұрын
If Telefunken had come to an agreement with IEEE and paid license fees then this type of display tube would have been a success.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 3 жыл бұрын
yep, dunno why they didnt have this option, or did they but refused to pay ?
@cgoad
@cgoad 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Fran. Wow! TWO amazing pieces of unobtainium. AND they both still work! A big thank you to Joe for sending these to you, and a big thank you to you for daring to power them up. You've got a real, living museum in the lab. Thank you for sharing these treasures.
@LuxuryDragonessX
@LuxuryDragonessX 3 жыл бұрын
Your genuine enthusiasm just makes me really happy, subscribed
@TBL_stevennelson
@TBL_stevennelson 3 жыл бұрын
You could use the count down to start the show or live stream. Thanks for sharing love all your videos.
@davelister796
@davelister796 3 жыл бұрын
and/or use a NIMO count down to zero, fade to black, to end the video. :-)
@enquiryplay
@enquiryplay 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine an alternative timeline in which nimo became the dominant display technology. We could all be wearing nimo tube wristwatches right now.
@aserta
@aserta 3 жыл бұрын
At 1800ish volts...eh, doubt it. Once the LCD came out, no other format stood a chance. It's a no-brainer. And the LCD was a natural progression, so it's not like favoring a different format might've hindered it.
@R.Daneel
@R.Daneel 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the VR rigs. Basically a bus with the back door replaced with a faceplate and a strap.
@grmlab4510
@grmlab4510 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds fantastic. I'd love one.
@felixar90
@felixar90 3 жыл бұрын
The size of a Pip-Boy
@caodesignworks2407
@caodesignworks2407 3 жыл бұрын
As other's have said, it's just not really a possibility without a truly massive watch. These weren't even practical forms of display, neither were Nixies, for that matter, but back then, they were throwing everything at a wall and seeing what sticks. And when LCD hit the market, nothing stood a chance.
@majikglustik9704
@majikglustik9704 3 жыл бұрын
Don't give up! Bell labs and Western Electric CAN STILL MAKE THEM, special order. Call them. You'll be glad you did!
@ArnaudMEURET
@ArnaudMEURET 3 жыл бұрын
Wat !? Seriously?
@majikglustik9704
@majikglustik9704 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArnaudMEURET that's who has always constructed and installed space program hardware. The first missions in space involved satellite telephone relay circuits and were funded ENTIRELY by The Bell System.
@ArnaudMEURET
@ArnaudMEURET 3 жыл бұрын
@@majikglustik9704 OK but how can you be certain that they accept such orders? It’s unimaginable that they’d keep a production line ready for this. Do you know that they have old stock?
@majikglustik9704
@majikglustik9704 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArnaudMEURET excellent question! Here's the process: You contact them and they can construct a series of prototype components, so data can be gathered about the raw materials process that would supply a production line. This data is used to establish the logistics of the assembly program and to develop the tools, and tooling needed to make the product. It all starts at bell labs. Contact them directly and I believe they could EASILY fulfill simple orders by constructing several units at a time, in their shop. Tell them what you want. The phone call or email starts your journey. Yes, vaccum tubes are them. Nimo tubes. You name it... Bell labs developed it, and Western Electric built it. And NASA flew it.
@majikglustik9704
@majikglustik9704 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArnaudMEURET not only old stock...before any machines are made to build such components, one must build specimens, in the lab / shop, by hand. Then they know what they need to do to assemble the machines that will MASS PRODUCE the components assembly in question. Auto makers make each years cars parts (each one) by hand, and assemble the PROTOTYPE into a finished auto made ENTIRELY BY HAND. Once that is done, then one can design the tools, machines, and processes that will produce that model years car. Again, bell labs has the property rights, plans, schematics, and intellectual LICENSE to make electronic components like nixey tubes. They would have to produce each tube by hand, not with a machine. Only when there is enough demand, would they tool & dye an assembly line. Call them. They can advise you better. Bell labs (makers of the transistor, and integrated circuit: see also, "at&t tech channel"). Western Electric (who made and operated the assembly lines). Untill you inquire of them, they won't know you want these. Thusly, they will be impossible to get, unless you go to a manufacturer, like Western Electric, or Bell Labs. All the best.
@fungusenthusiast8249
@fungusenthusiast8249 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Quite literally one of a kind! This should get more attention, fascinating history.
@mUbase
@mUbase 3 жыл бұрын
WOW. So very excellent. Thanks Fran. Trailblazing away. xxx
@69dblcab
@69dblcab 3 жыл бұрын
Fully functional! Great Bin a View intro. Thanks Fran. Your videos are always fun.
@metatechnologist
@metatechnologist 3 жыл бұрын
You can't expect a prototype to work correctly. I think it works fairly well.
@jondhuse1549
@jondhuse1549 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Thank you for this!
@joell439
@joell439 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the one and only....... how appropriate...... Fran, you too are a one and only 👍👍. Thanks for sharing. Fascinating
@curlybrace314
@curlybrace314 3 жыл бұрын
You first taught me about NIMO tubes, and it is real cool to see prototypes!
@lonerthehumanimpersonator7742
@lonerthehumanimpersonator7742 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect another nimo vid! The first vid I've seen of yours was your first nimo vid.
@Codeaholic1
@Codeaholic1 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna make it easy on myself" .... uses a slot headed screw. :-D You're one of a kind Fran
@nilo70
@nilo70 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fran for letting us all come along !
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 3 жыл бұрын
so Telefunken was sued not to produce by a competitor who decided not to sell the product?
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 3 жыл бұрын
stupid isn't , that's the patent system
@AeRiaL_
@AeRiaL_ 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that was weird to hear to me as well, it makes no sense lmao
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
Here is see things that I never would have seen otherwise. Thanks, Fran!
@adamwilks
@adamwilks 3 жыл бұрын
Finding NIMO! It’s a thing of beauty.
@keefjunior4061
@keefjunior4061 3 жыл бұрын
That's amazing! I wish I could tell you I had a box of nos ones laying around, but you're right, those are some seriously unobtainable items. IEEE prototypes at that! Rarified air you breathe Fran!
@lexologics
@lexologics 3 жыл бұрын
Great one Fran thanks
@novanut1964
@novanut1964 3 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the rarity and working demonstration, thanks
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 3 жыл бұрын
That looks really nice.
@stephenhamill7615
@stephenhamill7615 3 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff Fran
@Josh_Fredman
@Josh_Fredman 3 жыл бұрын
Your end-of-video silent clips can hit so hard sometimes. Even though you said many times in the video that it was the last of its kind, and practically one-of-a-kind even when it was new, it wasn't till the footage of the little tube silently cycling through the digits that my mind began to wander into the world where this plucky little voltage monster was the first of many, a world that never came to be, and now lives only in our imaginations, generations later...
@gromett
@gromett 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of NIMO tubes before. They are beautiful.
@eightbit3342
@eightbit3342 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing that thing fire up made me so happy, thank you Fran :) , thank you Joe Velas. 8-bit.
@kimwelch4652
@kimwelch4652 3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely little particle accelerator.
@chriswalford4161
@chriswalford4161 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just wow! That looks really tactile.
@workingtitle1791
@workingtitle1791 3 жыл бұрын
It's thrilling to get to see some old tech that i never would have heard of otherwise
@Kamodomon
@Kamodomon 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool. Really like the green of the light.
@MrTangent
@MrTangent 3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple Nixie clocks… looks like a Nimo antiquated artifact of some kind will be in my possession soon enough. Fantastic video.
@lawrencebrown3582
@lawrencebrown3582 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen those before. Lovely!
@nzoomed
@nzoomed 3 жыл бұрын
FINDING NIMO
@kevincaswell39
@kevincaswell39 3 жыл бұрын
love the ending credit song, u crack me up fran
@francesarpaia
@francesarpaia 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! These are sick. Mythological is the perfect word.
@Davidjb37721
@Davidjb37721 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job thanks
@newmonengineering
@newmonengineering 3 жыл бұрын
Neat little tubes!!
@suddenseer9013
@suddenseer9013 3 жыл бұрын
Dayton Hamvention used to be the place to find rare goodies like this. I'd love to sift through what you discard!
@alfulton5946
@alfulton5946 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I watched this video as I love nixie tubes and these ones are awesome also. I'm saving up for a nixie watch rn and if these ones were miniaturized I would love to get one of these also
@cmdrleeloocatfish7619
@cmdrleeloocatfish7619 3 жыл бұрын
Epic ! Thanks !
@nickolaswilcox425
@nickolaswilcox425 3 жыл бұрын
you are probably one of the only people on earth who both knows about these and actually has the gear to turn it on and use it, its no wonder the surviving samples keep finding you, the oddity is that they still exist and function more or less like new despite manufacturing flaws
@motaba555
@motaba555 3 жыл бұрын
What to say, AWESOME!
@craigybhoy978
@craigybhoy978 3 жыл бұрын
wow, tubes on the tube. great vids as usual fran. now you come up on my feed yeaahhh, but yt have heavily advertised on this, had 17 ads on my view.
@FranLab
@FranLab 3 жыл бұрын
AdBlock.
@craigybhoy978
@craigybhoy978 3 жыл бұрын
@@FranLab i have it but it does take a funny turn every so often. i dont mind ads
@fredflintstone1
@fredflintstone1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I guess powering it up must have been quite tense time for you :-)
@isidrodeleon673
@isidrodeleon673 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for my time machine.
@atan7260
@atan7260 3 жыл бұрын
These are very cool
@Erwinhooi
@Erwinhooi 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome crt tube👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@mrmobodies4879
@mrmobodies4879 3 жыл бұрын
I like the glow. It reminds me of some toy night light plugs in the 80'S for toddlers where you plug them in and they light in the dark.
@syrew900
@syrew900 3 жыл бұрын
They are so lovely, I wish these had taken off the same as Nixie tubes. I love the frosty look of the glass, and the green glow
@fredflickinger643
@fredflickinger643 3 жыл бұрын
Ultra cool!
@jorgenskyt
@jorgenskyt 3 жыл бұрын
I just love your videos :-)
@PiratCarribean
@PiratCarribean 3 жыл бұрын
I saw some interesting VFD tubes for sale online. A star, devided into segments, in the middle of 5 lines, in a circle on each side. Could be a nice animated tube.
@CmmdrKitty
@CmmdrKitty 3 жыл бұрын
Yay more Nimo tubes!! I found me inverted nixie tubes and others! Cant brain hard enough to build a clock. Quite complicated......
@CallousCoder
@CallousCoder 3 жыл бұрын
Those things are brilliant.
@JBantha
@JBantha 3 жыл бұрын
You should interview Joe.
@Techno-Universal
@Techno-Universal 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently lift companies like Otis often used tubes like this for the floor indicators inside their lifts around the time these tubes were popular! :)
@badjer1983
@badjer1983 3 жыл бұрын
Fran - Do a video on all of your vacuum tubes collection! That would be cool.
@bassobalalaikka5005
@bassobalalaikka5005 3 жыл бұрын
some tube sockets can be cleaned by small brushes usually used instead of flossing wire between teeth. those are available in various sizes at least in Europe, dont see why not in US too.
@barkbarkbarkbarkable
@barkbarkbarkbarkable 3 жыл бұрын
Fran is 'Da Bomb' !
@adampeters7947
@adampeters7947 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting vid. Thanks What product were these tubes used for? What purpose did they serve?
@adampeters7947
@adampeters7947 3 жыл бұрын
A nice track!
@compu85
@compu85 3 жыл бұрын
Was the 0 and 5 improving on the round tube after a bit of run time real, or a camera artifact?
@paulbennell3313
@paulbennell3313 3 жыл бұрын
The 5 and the 0 on the round prototype tube seemed to improve with time (I noticed this before you lowered the exposure on the camera). Maybe they'd "burn in" a bit with use? Excellent video as always!
@randyhelzerman
@randyhelzerman 3 жыл бұрын
It is beyond words nuts that you could actually get a prototype vacuum tube from the 60's to work. I'm doing the "we are unworthy" genuflections.
@bamagregv
@bamagregv 3 жыл бұрын
Tell Joe thank you and OPA!
@rectify2003
@rectify2003 3 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, it’s like a Film set of a 50’s space movie
@MVVblog
@MVVblog 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you are in heaven playing with that unobtainium NIMO tube 😃
@RaivoltG
@RaivoltG 3 жыл бұрын
Why are some of the numbers split and others are solid? Thank you! Great channel!!
@earthlingjohn
@earthlingjohn 3 жыл бұрын
5:41 fire to the wire... It's Ailve !!
@rb032682
@rb032682 3 жыл бұрын
cool stuff
@butchlauer
@butchlauer 3 жыл бұрын
Supa cool!
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 жыл бұрын
On the slightly more modern note, I am currently playing around with a Raspberry Pi and mini lcd color 128x128 displays based on the SPI interface. I am planning on making some big panel buttons with transparent cover, with those displays built in. A lot of fun to do, learning a lot on the way, especially Python and Driving the GPIO pins on the Pi. I got 5 of them working in parallel, it was surprisingly easy to do.
@7head7metal7
@7head7metal7 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds fun! An exciting project like yours is the best way to learn imho.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 жыл бұрын
@@7head7metal7Yes, it's my rediscovered hobby. I always used to like to fidget with electronics, even etched my own pcbs 30 years back.
@7head7metal7
@7head7metal7 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Oh, that's another fun thing I used to do, too! There is something really satisfying in seeing all the steps in the process fitting together, while they use different methods (CAD/drawing, mechanical processing, chemical reactions, and good old elbow grease). The knowledge acquired how to get a specific process to work and reach a certain result with a specific set of equipment is what made PCB etching fun for me, even until maybe 3 years ago. Since then it became cheaper for me to just get them done somewhere else. But since we know how it works, we can design the PCB accordingly.
@nw7696
@nw7696 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Dingomush
@Dingomush 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great! You get to play with all the cool toys!!!
@kevincaswell39
@kevincaswell39 3 жыл бұрын
I got unsubscribed somehow, but I fixed that by re-subscribing! You Rock Fran!
@robertcurtis3815
@robertcurtis3815 3 жыл бұрын
I've come across a few rectangular tubes in old navel sonar equipment retro adapted for receiving early television. My grandad used to make them. X
@robertcurtis3815
@robertcurtis3815 3 жыл бұрын
Oh.. different tubes. Still wonderful though. X
@NeonThoughtBox
@NeonThoughtBox 3 жыл бұрын
Aw, yes. I need this nerdiness.
@marcs990
@marcs990 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing insight into telecommunications history. Thx 🙏 so much as there isn’t anyone that else out there doing the exact things you so. I have a “History of Telecommunications” & I have all the info I need from this channel. I can now spread the knowledge.
@randomelectronicsanddispla1765
@randomelectronicsanddispla1765 3 жыл бұрын
Hell! I can't even find a production issue Nimo tube for my collection.
@miroslavzima8856
@miroslavzima8856 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for medieval facts. How the hell did I end here? I regret nothing xD
@williefleete
@williefleete 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have 4 total of these now? You should try making an actual clock out of them. Either cmos logic or micro based.
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 3 жыл бұрын
She has much more than 4 iirc. Look at the other videos :)
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын
DTL logic chips to give it the true cyber punk feel.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 3 жыл бұрын
@@dogwalker666 nah, discrete transistor 😁
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын
@@andygozzo72 Germanium ones too.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 3 жыл бұрын
@@dogwalker666 😁
@rougeneon1997
@rougeneon1997 3 жыл бұрын
Penn-State University? Cool. Im from central PA. Ive never heard of those tubes. VERY cool
@hardrivethrutown
@hardrivethrutown 3 жыл бұрын
The slightly rectangular one reminds me of the IN12 Nixie tubes
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 3 жыл бұрын
I love your tiny monitors...... 😁
@NZHippie
@NZHippie 3 жыл бұрын
WOW, great Tube demo, keep up the great work Fran...
@Sabastianspreadworth
@Sabastianspreadworth 3 жыл бұрын
You obtained the unobtainable unobtanium, neat.
@MemeReviewer
@MemeReviewer 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, some footage of an XM1000!
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. I'd say this is the second time you've had unobtainium. Have you heard or seen any info that there is another Binoview display module anywhere? All searches I've done lead back to your video. Unless there are some sitting in some warehouse someplace, you may have the only one left.
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