Scott doing the sleeper seats so that we don't have to
@sunflower-xj6pe6 ай бұрын
Trust me, I took them from Inverness to London and I am a tank I travel all the time. They are horrible and feel like concrete.
@christopherhood9241Ай бұрын
@@sunflower-xj6pe made the same journey myself last week - never again. will fly or drive in future.
@NerdX151 Жыл бұрын
It could have been worse. I remember travelling on the "Ostsee Express" sleeper from Copenhagen to Berlin back in the late 80's. I was stupid enough to book a seat in a DR seating car. It was in a compartment, so there was some privacy, but the seats were just benches covered in orange plastic. We were only five people in the carriage. The rest of the compartments were filled up with washing machines and televisions, and we had one East German conductor who got more and more drunk during the night. It was quite an adventure lol.
@MultiMidden Жыл бұрын
Not as bad as Deutsche Reichsbahn (East German railways) talk about damning with faint praise.
@oliverbrookes27 Жыл бұрын
By now a seat in that cabin should be more akin to an airline business class seat with a decent recline. Noise cancelling headphones are a must have for any long trip where there are other passengers.
@Bungle2010 Жыл бұрын
Surely it's ear plugs that you want?
@Housey19857 ай бұрын
Agree. It’s such a missed opportunity with the new rolling stock that came in
@johnbowyer6902 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Scott for this vlog; you know this train, above everything else, is a SLEEPER train and every seat should be its own little private cubicle with its own pull-down window blind and pull-down sunscreen with an information screen and PA system and reliable WiFi to help assure a more connected, personal and quieter travel experience.
@racelox Жыл бұрын
And then the price would go up to be comparable to a room. The whole point is that the seats are cheap.
@davidhaslett9777 Жыл бұрын
@@racelox There are private rooms available at a cost.
@kevinellis8869 Жыл бұрын
Overnight sleepers in seats are for youngsters, but current room prices on on the CS are horrendous, looked at it for Crewe-Inverness with our dogs and decided to do ECML with stops in Berwick and Edinburgh.
@Jennyeq Жыл бұрын
Another top video - though I must say I have no desire to repeat this particular journey!
@phillipecook3227 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do that trip unless I had to. As you say the only thing going for it is that there's more leg room than a bus. Thanks for posting.
@alexmcwhirter6611 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott. Interesting as always. Those CAF bogies are noisy. They're also fitted on the units Northern uses which have replaced the Pacers. They just clatter all the time.
@symy92 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for braving the CS again for us. The outtakes made me laugh. It shows the reality of being a YT content creator. Thanks for the great video as usual.
@steve-marsh Жыл бұрын
Yep, can finally confirm you're crazy Scott :D Oh and cheers for the tip with the 'Today's Railways' magazine!
@lummatravel Жыл бұрын
I did this London to Edinburgh a couple of years back and the person behind me kept kickong the back of my seat in his sleep, which meant i got absolutely no sleep. Luckily my hotel allowed me to check in at 8.30am, so got to sleep in a real bed shortly after arriving. One thing to say is that these seats are often significantly cheaper than LNER or Avanti day trains,
@vicsams4431 Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, well done for giving the Caledonian Sleeper a second chance, and I am pleased your view of it improved slightly. Can't help but point out, it is a sleeper train with beds. No need to sleep in a chair. Best way to do it, is in a bed, after consuming haggis, neeps and tatties, and a few wee drams. In a sleeping berth, you get much less disturbance too. I have done Euston to Edinburgh, Euston to Glasgow (regularly), Euston to Fort William, Euston to Inverness, Euston to Aberdeen, and even Euston to Stranraer Harbour when it ran back in the day (I'm an old fart). Nice hot food, would have prevented you from being famished and a wee dram or two might have helped you sleep. But anything is better than a bus !
@simonjones7727 Жыл бұрын
That's true but some of us are on a budget and it is all we can afford
@vicsams4431 Жыл бұрын
@@simonjones7727 Been there, done that. But now I am an old fart, 17 hours (on the Highland Beds) in a chair no longer appeals.
@claresherman2278 Жыл бұрын
It’s also notoriously expensive!
@vicsams4431 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Roughly the cost of a train fare plus a hotel overnight.
@Housey19857 ай бұрын
Don’t agree. With new rolling stock in 2019 they could have made the seats a viable option for those not endowed with your deep pockets!
@cjg1970 Жыл бұрын
In my youth I travelled a few times to Scotland on the sleeper and that looked far more civilised. People used to sleep on the floor down the whole length of the aisle which was interesting if you needed the loo.
@MidlandRailEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
Yet another fantastic review of the Caledonian Sleeper I really enjoyed watching keep the brilliant videos
@robbiephillipstravelsofple4790 Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott I always enjoy your videos. I have had the opportunity to travel on the Caledonian Sleeper from Inverness to Euston last year in a club sleeper room. So much better than a seat I really enjoyed my time abroad the food was great for a train and the staff were fantastic even had a hot shower in the morning. I hope you get the chance to experience a sleeper room soon. Keep the videos coming take care
@richardjennings3049 Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott thanks for the update. Still convinced to get a sleeper compartment. Keep up the good work (and outtakes)
@keithparker1346 Жыл бұрын
Got to give you credit for trying that route again
@herschell649 ай бұрын
I'll be going on the Sleeper next May staying in a Club Room solo traveller so have enjoyed your videos and others all about it
@janetmackinnon3411 Жыл бұрын
Always worth watching. Thank you.
@BibtheBoulder Жыл бұрын
Sooner you than me in an overnight seat on the CS.
@loreneharrell2716 Жыл бұрын
Love you’re videos, I’m watching from the US (Alabama) keep up the good work!
@michaelbruchas6663 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@k9psychology87 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you on my bus this morning 900 to Edinburgh, hope your journey was pleasant. Keep all the good information coming
@andysmart23797 ай бұрын
You're a brave man trying the seats a second time!
@standrewpics Жыл бұрын
I did the seat on the sleeper train some years ago London to Inverness for £55 return I don’t think you can get a fare that cheap these days . I booked well in advance . Many years ago . Before Serco took over the service . Like yourself I could not sleep too well . Some ferries have sleeping pods . Small enclosed sleeping areas , I think this should be trailed on the sleeper train.
@bobbythomas200420032 Жыл бұрын
A great video and i really enjoyed it so very much and thank you for making it.
@ScotsmaninTenerife Жыл бұрын
Nice vlog , not sure I could do those seats ! I am planning to maybe film this later this year .
@2KXMKR Жыл бұрын
I think they could make a fortune if they brought back compartment carriages for these sleepers, sort of a middle ground between open and sleeper coaches. A central isle with small compartments either side of the coach with four seats in each, and of course, each with their own window. No more blind battles! Prices would be a bit steep though as you're essentially paying for four seats, plus the premium of privacy. Cheaper than a sleeping cabin though!
@thelionofluton4940 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if they are specifically designed to be uncomfortable 🤔
@phillipecook3227 Жыл бұрын
Yes. That occurred to me also.
@lewiss62610 ай бұрын
They certainly feel that way. The seats are literally just the ironing boards seats you will find on many commuter train across the UK such as the class 800,375 and 377s. The only difference is there a bit more padding to the seat and a headrest but no way could you sleep the entire journey. I also found the heating is either roasting hot or freezing cold
@robertofraser101 Жыл бұрын
Scott thanks happy travels
@Jimo1956 Жыл бұрын
You just mentioned at the beginning that you would do a "toilet tour" and "buy" us/the viewers a "beer." Hope you went for the beer first and then did the "toilet tour." So now I'll view the rest. See what happens. Take care. It's also great fun watching you really enjoying yourself when you're the right honuarable tour guide.
@chnet968 Жыл бұрын
Oh, Leon. I wanted to try it as well when I come to London for new year celebration. Too bad the shop near my hotel didn't open during the whole Christmas to New Year period.
@colin.d Жыл бұрын
One of the main problems with all types of public transportation - and that is other people, particularly those with little consideration for their fellow travellers.
@Raylufc Жыл бұрын
I think the worst interruption on trains is people speaking on their mobile phones now they can charge up their phones on board God help us
@mr8I7 Жыл бұрын
Found it interesting on the Polish train videos that people would actually move to the privacy of the vestibules to make their calls as opposed to doing it in the main carriage.
@Raylufc Жыл бұрын
@@mr8I7 good manners
@charlo90952 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese West Express Ginga has seats that convert to beds. That's something that should be considered for the UK sleeper trains.
@Bungle2010 Жыл бұрын
What would be the point?
@Housey19857 ай бұрын
@@Bungle2010any idiot can be uncomfortable…
@andrewhall2269 Жыл бұрын
Video are amazing. Keep yourself warm. Keep safe as well
@graemejardin5569 Жыл бұрын
When I last took the Sleeper back in the 2000s, the seats looked a lot more comfortable than they are now. But these days, for that journey, I'd much prefer a seat in an evening plane followed by a night in a Premier Inn.
@TripsonBudget Жыл бұрын
Lovely clip. I really enjoyed. And you are right about thay watching many reviews before can set expectation(mindset). Greetings from Romania.
@majorchaos2006 Жыл бұрын
I like how you add some outtakes at the end.
@ozmac869529 күн бұрын
Hi Scott. I’m back to the old country in September. (Port Glesga) I saw the last review of the seat you did so I chose a solo cabin. Ridiculous £ price and you don’t even get a bacon butty - you have to buy brekkie. EUS-INV.
@simonjones7727 Жыл бұрын
Further update: The Highlander from Inverness has two sets. One with working loos, and one where the first two or three at the head of the train are always out of use. Has been like that for months and no idea why they do not fix it. It is pot luck which set you get on a given night.
@darrenburns169 ай бұрын
I've been on this service once... But in a bed ... Was awful... Noisy, and so much movement... And was expensive. If you need to get to London early doors, I recommend flying... Cheaper, and more comfy, depending where you live will be a twilight start but worth it for me.
@patrickbut-not-a-saint941810 ай бұрын
Thanks for another excellent video Scott. Interesting that inconsiderate fellow travellers were a problem rather than the actual train. Who is having conversations on a night sleeper train, or an overnight bus, at 3am?!
@mariedamon56556 ай бұрын
Great video thank you very interesting
@richardstreet7518 Жыл бұрын
Makes me laugh .. we travel economy / coach class on flights in much tighter seats without much option of stretching legs etc... if they fixed the noise from the wheels /Bogies it would ve great... !!
@kazzicup Жыл бұрын
When a guy has a nice breakfast he feels better. 🥪☕
@jg-7780 Жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested in your take on Amtrak long distance coach seats for overnight journeys over in the US. While the issue of passenger and train noise won't go away, and you'll most likely have a stranger sitting next to you, the seats are very comfortable with generous recline, ample legroom, adjustable leg supports, and footrests. Just be sure to bring your own pillow and blanket.
@chrismoore4423 Жыл бұрын
Clue in the name - take a sleeper berth and get peace, privacy, a bed, lounge car access and first class lounge access for a shower..... Latter unless you book an ensuite cabin of course!
@peternolan5353 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad Trim Scott, could be shorter and tighter. Keep the videos coming
@Fent1386 Жыл бұрын
They have a Leon next to Greggs just outside Manchester Piccadilly and it’s always empty because everyone is going in Greggs
@jimmccann320 Жыл бұрын
You could not pay me to make that journey without a proper sleeping berth!
@WaterWorld1 Жыл бұрын
Scott, you are clearly a masochist! ;-) I don't understand: what the advantage of the sleeper is, over a daytime service that takes 4.5 hours. It's not normally cheaper, I believe.
@alexmcwhirter6611 Жыл бұрын
Really depends on whether or not one wants to save on accommodation costs.
@Housey19857 ай бұрын
Getting out somewhere like Aviemore or Corrour is a really benefit and saves you at least half a day
@nigelkthomas9501 Жыл бұрын
I did the Fort William sleeper northbound in 2015. Absolute disaster! Three hours late and hardly any sleep.
@davidoliver1169 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Scott
@garethsmith2250 Жыл бұрын
Your toilet tour's are becoming more of the norm now :)
@Scotrailboy2 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Scott you are getting better and better in facet I do videos like yours.i have a KZfaq channel
@andrrwprice7281 Жыл бұрын
Your description of the noisy carriage matches mine of every hospital ward I've been in. :)
@tabathaburden Жыл бұрын
Leon is great!
@wietzebraem Жыл бұрын
hey scott, we did a piece of the train with my parents in indonesia there it was very nice my father and a few wanted to take a picture open the door while the train is running at full speed that window doesn't fly out, 🤣 and then we sat down in the wagon and we felt that yellow noise but up and down and it turned out that one of the wheels was missing again 🤣grtz from wietze braem of Adinkerke , belguim
@marct5146 ай бұрын
I'm surprised to see in your video that the guy in the seat behind you put the blinds down. What's the problem with the blinds being up when it's dark outside?! Do many passengers in the seated carriage on the Caledonian Sleeper prefer for the blinds to be down? I could understand if it was blazing strong sunlight shining in making it uncomfortable, but not when it's dark outside! When I'm on a train, even when it's dark outside I like to see out the window and see the passing scenery. I recently did two journeys on the GWR Night Riviera between London and Penzance in both directions in the seated carriage, and was looking out the window pretty much the whole journeys! And really enjoyed those journeys.
@kennethhume86289 ай бұрын
Very interesting video .
@chrisneppiras9408 Жыл бұрын
class 92 loco nice, tried sleeping on a seat on a ferry once, that was a no go also.
@robertpaisley8643 Жыл бұрын
Vey get the afternoon train 4 hrs 40mins.. cheap price .an a comfortable trip
@jamesdoyle8442 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Scott 👍👍
@martinb22139 ай бұрын
Noise cancelling headphones are essential for public travel 😊
@luisstransport Жыл бұрын
Great video Scott
@yyyfffff33333 Жыл бұрын
Try noise cancelling headphones !
@keith800 Жыл бұрын
I did this journey a couple of years ago its ok if you can find two seats to curl up across , its a pity seated passengers are not allowed to sit in the restaurant coach as that would give you a break from the seated coach , though for the price a normal Avanti day ticket is about the same and only takes four and a half hours to be in London and is half the time spent on the sleeper.
@dgattenb Жыл бұрын
i went on the seatiing part of the sleeper years ago .... mid 90s ... we had blue lighting all the way up to glasgow, and at 12pm ish it went to dark blue lighting .. very nice... everyone slept on the floors .. or acroos the seats
@ScottishT Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Scott. I guess the only thing ruining it this time was people 😂
@thecyberleaderwhufc Жыл бұрын
Loved your videos every time mate can you do The Night Riveria or like a Coach from London to Exeter
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
Why Exeter as that’s a very short journey, Penzance it has to be
@thecyberleaderwhufc Жыл бұрын
@@s125ish oh okay
@lincolncityful1 Жыл бұрын
Think I will pass Scott, great watch though 👍
@leeallen1407 Жыл бұрын
Try one of the actual rooms ...i want to do this run it;'s on my bucket list
@mw... Жыл бұрын
Euston, we have a problem.............................................................................................
@imsbvs Жыл бұрын
I might give the CS a try ... but I will wait until their change in ownership is complete (and hopefully fares are reduced). If I do, it will be in a cabin, not on a seat. I have slept in a train once before, Santander - Malaga motorail, that was 1992 so about time I gave this mode of travel another look.
@alexmcwhirter6611 Жыл бұрын
Serco says CS lost £69 million over the past seven years. Lower fares possible ?
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
Doubt fares will go down
@tonywinward Жыл бұрын
I did the Night Riviera earlier this week and the seats were worse than on here. It was terrible
@christiantheo1 Жыл бұрын
Good effort 👌
@dublinbusdude Жыл бұрын
Got like your outtakes Scott, any plans for another Irish visit?
@williamw7847 Жыл бұрын
Good summary. I've only done seated sleeper a couple of times, but not with the present mob and got on OK with it. Bu my norm is the Classic cabin. And as for Leon's ... my advide would be to leave Euston and head up Eversholt Street to a really good greasy spoon there .. Double Six Cafe and restaurant I think Likewise, at Inverness, I'd recommend Red Pepper along Academy St.
@michaelcampin1464 Жыл бұрын
The overnight coach from Sunderland to London is about 7 hours and that is bad enough
@yourlocaltrainenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Exept you say it is really bad but you are using the SEATED version, Which ARE Terrible, Maybe TRy getting a room and do a part 3. I have personally Traveled in a room and it was amazing. Great video, Maybe try a room :)
@DeltaJazzUK Жыл бұрын
The seats on most trains are appalling these days, much worse than they were in the 70s and 80s. The Azuma seats on the East coast main line are terrible.
@Bungle2010 Жыл бұрын
Because the DfT don't know what they are doing........
@kevanhubbard9673 Жыл бұрын
Modern rail seats are ironing board like including those on that sleeping train but it is only 8 hours so not so bad from Edinburgh or Glasgow seated but Inverness/Aberdeen/Fort William would be more challenging although I don't think that you can do it direct from Fort William as you have to change in Edinburgh or that's how it went with the old rolling stock at least?
@hanshartfiel6394 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered getting one of those inflatable neck braces? I find them very useful when travelling long distance as long as I don't do the driving.
@andrewwilson6240 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago, when I was barely middle aged I caught a sleeper from king's cross to Newcastle in a seat. It was made up with mark 3 carriages. My main memory was the bright florescent lights hindering the possibility of sleep
@simondavey7787 Жыл бұрын
I think the seats on the old Sleeper were much better.
@jedlinnen6528 Жыл бұрын
Roll must have been good to travel three hundred and fifty miles
@jedlinnen6528 Жыл бұрын
Port News in Port Glasgow man makes rolls fresh every morning. This could be nearer
@Clivestravelandtrains Жыл бұрын
The indicator showed that it stopped at Carstairs. I never knew that! (2.30)
@alexraeside79469 ай бұрын
Taken the seats and rooms a few times to head to the office. The staff are great. But the seats are punishment for not taking a room pure and simple. Office chairs recline more and regular first class train chairs are easier to sleep in. Bright lights stay on unlike in a airplane. Bizarre. The cheapest room is for two people though so if you travel alone you are paying double if you get a room. Its for tourists who will pay a high premium for novelty its not for regular people.
@SteveSmithRailways Жыл бұрын
Sod that for a game of cricket. I can only imagine the germs circulating around coach H.....nice. Not really! The things people do for entertainment. Well done that man.
@holidaytripsholidaytrips7254 Жыл бұрын
8:19 Vegan centric pish
@MrMet77711 ай бұрын
I genuinely don’t understand why people actually do this train journey in the seats. Unless it’s for environmental reasons, surely it would be significantly easier to just fly?
@seanC3i Жыл бұрын
I still think anyone who takes a seat on a night train needs to have their head examined! (except for the video maker of course who was doing it for a review)
@fatwalletboy2 Жыл бұрын
The new sleeper seems like its gone backwards in terms of ride quality and comfort......pity the mk3s didnt get a refurb instead of these terrible mk5s.
@Bungle2010 Жыл бұрын
They're life expired.
@smoothmicra Жыл бұрын
If I had to take this journey it would be with a generous flask of whisky to knock me out. I find whisky to be an incredibly effective sleeping pill, 30 minutes and the next thing I know... morning!😁
@Christinemacca Жыл бұрын
When you get to London, how long do you stay? Do you have a wee wander around then go back up the road the same day?
@frankdepellette5 ай бұрын
"L'enfer, c'est les autres"
@pattttttttt11 ай бұрын
travelling next month 1st timer on this but have a seat instead - do you arrive early at London ?
@pattttttttt11 ай бұрын
guess no 1 knows - wanted to no lso why we have stay in train 0730 if you arrived early - need to get a connection for 0815 eurostar
@cityeagle7603 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like they should also include disposable earplugs with the eye mask. Great video as always, I look forward to watching them 🙂