Snap On Killer? Tsunoda KBN-150 Cable tie cutter w/ gripping jaws are excellent. 1/4 Snap On price!

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Жыл бұрын

amzn.to/3SahCIt Are the Tsunoda flush-cut pliers a Snap On Killer? The Tsunoda KBN-150 Cable tie cutter w/ gripping jaws are excellent, and at one-forth the price of the Snap On 786CF flush cutters. There are some differences between them, and I would have to give a microscopic nod to the Snap On for cutting, but the gripping faces are long overdue and very welcome. That said, the angle to intersect the zip tie is just a little more than natural like on the Snap On, and no blade covers were included which would add a bit more security and protection. All in all, I have no hesitation grabbing the Tsunoda over the Snap On.
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@m-s.t.l9386
@m-s.t.l9386 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I took my regular full size side cutters and ground down the back side flat and flush with the cutting edges to make a flush cut side cutters. It’s held up great for years of daily use as an electrician. I go through multiple bags of zip ties a week, sometimes daily along with cutting a lot of wire and the occasional use as a hammer. Cuts just as flush as a dedicated flush cut. Also pro tip: if you for some reason can’t get a flush cut, use a lighter.
@bcwrangler
@bcwrangler Жыл бұрын
I have eight pairs of Tsunoda cutting pliers of different styles. I highly recommend
@jris
@jris Жыл бұрын
I’m about the same. Amazing grips.
@jackhammer9622
@jackhammer9622 Жыл бұрын
I use the Tsunoda with the zip tie grabber. Been using it for 8 months. So far no complaints and I like the fact the zip ties don't go flying
@scottseverythingoutdoors462
@scottseverythingoutdoors462 Жыл бұрын
I'm not going to say snap-on is junk because it's not and it has a lifetime warranty but I have no need to spend that kind of money on tools because I'm not rich or a daily mechanic. Amazon has opened up a huge market for affordable good tools and it's so awesome! Thanks for the video!
@ElTeerino
@ElTeerino Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the 125 version for a few months now. I love these things. I’ll get the 150s eventually. I use them when I need to make sure the zip ties are perfectly snug. Such a great design.
@NWGR
@NWGR Жыл бұрын
Doc, I bought a pair of the Tsunodas a couple of weeks ago, and when I got them and started using them I IMMEDIATELY ordered a second pair. They're that good. Before that I used a set of hakko chp-170s. They got the job done; all the ties I cut were always flush. They were a bit awkward to use though because of the size. The tsunodas are perfect. Comfortable to hold and use, and I love the gripping jaws for cinching down zip ties. Tempted to grab another set.
@vanguardaudiovideo4536
@vanguardaudiovideo4536 Жыл бұрын
I love these flush cutters, use them every day! I ordered mine on amazon about 6 months ago and they still work flawlessly. I have been using these to also flush cut my Cat 6 ethernet connector terminations. For the money these are the best around and I have tried quite a few brands over the years
@Tools_and_Guitars
@Tools_and_Guitars Жыл бұрын
The Tsunoda looks great. Had I known about that model, I would have grabbed one. I still might. But I already have the Snap-on version and they've been the best I've used by far among flush cutters.
@sterlingarcher46
@sterlingarcher46 Жыл бұрын
Glad you took an interest in Japanese hand tools Doc , some of the world's finest in my opinion. I have these Tsunoda flush cutters and I was shocked at the value for money , they're made in Japan yet still affordable. Amazing.
@lastbesttool
@lastbesttool Жыл бұрын
I've always been a big fan of Japanese vehicles, electronics, cutlery, optics, and food, Tenkara rods, fishing reels, bicycle components, and martial arts. Not so much music, movies, or shoes. Tools were mostly an afterthought until recently.
@brianlashomb2830
@brianlashomb2830 Жыл бұрын
@@lastbesttool in woodworking they make some nice to use saws that cut on the pull stroke, rather than push. It lets you get a very fine kerf.
@paedahe4975
@paedahe4975 Жыл бұрын
I think I saw the Fujiya brand on Amazon with a similar shape snip head recently. The angled shape is great.
@brianlashomb2830
@brianlashomb2830 Жыл бұрын
Actually I just completed a plumbing project where I needed a stubby wide jaw adjustable wrench with a short handle. After trying locally for over a week, including modifying tools, I ordered a Fujiya model from Amazon. I was really impressed with the quality of the cast jaws. I would buy their tools again.
@paedahe4975
@paedahe4975 Жыл бұрын
@@brianlashomb2830 Good call. Can’t go wrong with Fujiya.
@paedahe4975
@paedahe4975 Жыл бұрын
I have the Tsunodas. They are AWESOME! Good call.
@jskjsk3986
@jskjsk3986 Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a T&B tywrap gun.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if your job is installing hundreds of ties all day everyday.
@mortonbeard2240
@mortonbeard2240 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite tools, the wire cutter. I have a collection of strays found in the street and other places.
@miasam9666
@miasam9666 Жыл бұрын
Daily reviews of unique products, straight to the point and no commercial bs vibe. And most important no shilling. Doc is the big baller of tool reviews that is in it cause he loves it, well done man.
@Environmenthrall
@Environmenthrall Жыл бұрын
He's had a few shilled products featured. He's at least up front about receiving the products, and the few I've seen he's given them positive reviews. But that is the nature of social media and "influencing."
@miasam9666
@miasam9666 Жыл бұрын
@@Environmenthrall compared the other reviewers his approach to tool review is the best, no bs straight to the point and no monkey business like VCG construction for example
@John..18
@John..18 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing me this, I didn't know such a thing existed,, I've just ordered the 6" version, can't wait for it to arrive,, I'll be "snipping" everything in sight ,, 👍 Guess I'll be making a nice cover/sheath, out of some strong heat shrink,,.
@martinblouin3639
@martinblouin3639 Жыл бұрын
i got a 125 and 100mm and they are fantastic! a few of my favorite pliers are Tsunoda
@toolsfortools
@toolsfortools 5 ай бұрын
Have the 150s. Love them.
@JohnSmith-cw3tp
@JohnSmith-cw3tp Жыл бұрын
Watching these videos is costing me a small fortune. Why does Doc have to find cool shit ive never heard of before all the time sheesh
@collisionz7938
@collisionz7938 Жыл бұрын
VERY INTERESTING DOC,GOOD REVIEW👍
@will104107
@will104107 Жыл бұрын
Very cool Doc always like seeing different tools. I use Knipex and Mac for flush cuts. The 16mm is a wicked essential tool in the Caterpillar world they put 16's everywhere.
@aussiehardwood6196
@aussiehardwood6196 Жыл бұрын
The cost to quality ratio with Tsunoda is hard to beat. I use them and Knipex mainly, dont have any SO as for me they are a little pricey but great pliers all the same.
@jamesedwards5931
@jamesedwards5931 Жыл бұрын
Looks good for another use. Pulling electrical wire staples, looks like it would be easier to get under the stapler because of the slant. I am going to order the 6”. Thanks
@branned
@branned Жыл бұрын
I have the KBN-150, but amazon now sells it for $30. Not 4x cheaper than snap-on
@mechanicalpirate664
@mechanicalpirate664 Жыл бұрын
Have some vamplier tools along with some Japanese made sunex stuff I bought quite some time ago and great value for the money
@gurubry
@gurubry Жыл бұрын
Something else I need that I somehow didn't need before.
@acidxero
@acidxero Жыл бұрын
How often does one cut a zip tie that's oriented like a ring on their own finger? I can't say I tend to approach them from a specific angle predominantly, but the offset of the Tsudona's seems like it would be more ergonomic to me, particularly when approaching ties from the front, as one often does when they're used as cable ties. You always find the coolest gear. Thank you for your service.
@someguy4476
@someguy4476 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking that for the money, these should last longer than the crappy Klein ones. I have bought probably a dozen pairs of them and they don’t last long and come out of alignment and don’t cut well. I’ll order a pair of these and see how they last. Thanks for the great content Doc.
@vicpetrishak7705
@vicpetrishak7705 6 ай бұрын
I always cinch the ties around twice before cutting !
@TylerSnyder305
@TylerSnyder305 Жыл бұрын
Seems like an excellent tool in quality, that angle is just awkward and will take some getting used to.
@MrRicciwalker
@MrRicciwalker Жыл бұрын
thank you..
@WorkingViews
@WorkingViews Жыл бұрын
the standard tsunoda flush are very nice as well. the finish is honestly better than the knipex and they seem sturdier. glad you are giving the japanese tools the spotlight. Ko-ken has really won me over recently in the socket and ratchet department. Gonna dig into my 91 f250 soon with my new help
@jasonstorie8740
@jasonstorie8740 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people use the Tsunoda for cutting out Gundam pieces from a model parts sheet which originated in Japan so that may be the reason for its angled design. I watched Adam Savage put one of the models together on his channel and to get the pieces to fit he had to flush cut them.
@christianness8983
@christianness8983 Жыл бұрын
I have those snap on cutters and they actually do leave a bit behind if you don't push into the zip tie. I might try these japanese ones or a pair of Fujiyas.
@NWGR
@NWGR Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty common caveat to all of these flush style cutters. The fujiyas look very similar but they don't have the gripping jaws that the tsunodas do.
@airratchet7313
@airratchet7313 Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of zip tie pliers they grab and tighten then cut the tie all in one. It tightens the tie very tight, I think they are made by K tool check them out
@RLSteffler
@RLSteffler Жыл бұрын
Tsunoda is awesome
@billynomates920
@billynomates920 Жыл бұрын
i just use spring-loaded hand shears to flush cut cable ties. one blade against the block the other blade against the strap - perfect flush cuts everytime, no need for special tools.
@MaheshInHawaii
@MaheshInHawaii 10 ай бұрын
Doc, have you ever used any cable tie tensioners such as the Klein 86570? They tension and cut. Good reviews on Amazon but I'm still skeptical. I need a tensioner and flush cutter for a fencing project coming up. Having a single tool for both would be great.
@georgeferlazzo7936
@georgeferlazzo7936 Жыл бұрын
Hello again Doc Thank you for another Great Video 👍 While I was watching the video. I don't remember who put this out. To Keep from losing pieces of the zip tie. Put sealant on the tips. That way when you cut the zip tie it stays in place. Again thank you 😊
@lastbesttool
@lastbesttool Жыл бұрын
HI George. Thanks again for watching. The sealant is a brilliant idea. I'll give it a shot.
@mattmanyam
@mattmanyam Жыл бұрын
Snap-On used to offer them like this, with a urethane filler in the jaws. Some companies have them with a small wire spring in the jaws to catch fly-aways, as an alternative. Small electronic assemblies don't want bits of loose copper flung into them.
@georgeferlazzo7936
@georgeferlazzo7936 Жыл бұрын
@@mattmanyam Hello Mattmanyam We in Aviation feel the same. But we do it mostly to keep trash from migrating to aircraft systems, like flight controls etc. It's for flight safety. It's not a permanent solution, but once you see it's effectiveness you will keep reapplying ✈️
@pincombe
@pincombe Жыл бұрын
Great video as always but would you be able to test with other types of cable tie? There are iron / copper and steel cable ties and it would be good to see whether it's that performance that separates the two of them
@AToolWithTools
@AToolWithTools Жыл бұрын
Both of these are rated for plastic and soft metal only. doing steel wouldnt be a good idea.
@KristopherLee-fk5ll
@KristopherLee-fk5ll Жыл бұрын
Both are Great tools, but I still prefer the knipex superknip😁
@sawomirzet8361
@sawomirzet8361 Жыл бұрын
I used in my work Sandvik.
@handyandy4x4
@handyandy4x4 Жыл бұрын
What options are there for the stainless steel type zip ties ?
@kristofferholst6053
@kristofferholst6053 Жыл бұрын
Knipex 78 61 125 also does an excellent job
@yeayeasautoadventures1161
@yeayeasautoadventures1161 Жыл бұрын
looks like a good tool, the icons are good too imho
@michaelbuddy
@michaelbuddy Жыл бұрын
for most zip ties and general work at home, you can use pretty inexpensive flush cutters that are often in the micro / electronics areas of tools. Cost you $5. I have some I like I think are crescent but I could be wrong, I think mine are made in USA. not sure if that's the case anymore. If you're doing zip ties at your job a lot definitely good to invest in some proper ones that I guess are forged yeah? The cheapie flushcutters are pretty thin, I'm guessing stamped steel. Still you can probably cut hundreds of zip ties with cheapies, or clean up some 3D printed parts of all those sprues and things. For my use, I tend to have to periodically cinch up zip ties so I actually leave a little flag on there but I either cut a little hexagon shape at the end, biting off those razor sharp corners, or I just hit them with a lighter and the heat makes a little soft ball on the end that would be near impossible to cut you.
@NWGR
@NWGR Жыл бұрын
Yep, I used to use the hakko chp-170 for my zip ties. Cheap and they did the job, but I work with sip ties so much that the tsunodas are well worth the $22 for me.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 Жыл бұрын
Right. LOL. What's with relegating the big heavy duty forged flush cutters to zip tie cutters? Sure, you can cut zip ties but that's not their main use, and they don't get as close as the micro flush cutters your talking about. Stamped steel, $5, great for cutting zip ties and through-hole PCB components.
@MadLadsAnonymous
@MadLadsAnonymous Жыл бұрын
Wish they had a "catching" function like the Japanese catch nippers (Viktor?)
@MrJetDevil
@MrJetDevil Жыл бұрын
This Tsunoda pliers are in my Amazon cart waiting black friday sales)
@smashyrashy
@smashyrashy Жыл бұрын
Cheapsk8
@bcwrangler
@bcwrangler Жыл бұрын
@@BruceAllgire Yup! Amazon will raise the prices with demand....Knipex Twin Grips were a perfect example of this
@hobbes3
@hobbes3 3 ай бұрын
There's a version that keeps the flying bit in the tool.
@jack902902
@jack902902 Жыл бұрын
I like the Heat treated cutters on the Snap On... Who manufactures Snap On pliers?
@hansangb
@hansangb Жыл бұрын
Huh. never knew they made cutters specifically for wire ties. I've been using the Klein cutters for so long. And I have the battle scars on my arms to prove it. You stick your hand into a tight spot and that angled cut wire ties ALWAYS finds your arm as you pull it out. LOL.
@corin164
@corin164 Жыл бұрын
Both tools seem to be geared toward the manufacturing market, as I don't think having a zip tie cut so close to the locking head is such a big deal for the commercial market (i. e. electrician) or a DYI person.
@gplusgplus2286
@gplusgplus2286 Жыл бұрын
Why not use a Knipex electronics cutter like the 7803125 which also cuts 100% flush ?
@vadim3976
@vadim3976 Жыл бұрын
👍
@GCraigmile
@GCraigmile Жыл бұрын
I use Knipex for that. They seem better then my Snap On
@siedpe13
@siedpe13 Жыл бұрын
Since im cheap i just take some basic harbor freight side cutters and grind their face flush on a belt sander
@immrnoidall
@immrnoidall 11 ай бұрын
I want one for WIRE
@TheAzurinBoyz2012
@TheAzurinBoyz2012 Жыл бұрын
Okay, can someone out there explain to me if this cutter strictly for zip ties? because I saw the headline reads "cable" so I'm under the impression that cable means metal cables. Don't wanna risk of damaging the tools. Thank you in advance.
@3vil3lvis
@3vil3lvis Жыл бұрын
Knipex super knips with lead catcher are the juice that is worth the squeeze.
@bcwrangler
@bcwrangler Жыл бұрын
Tsunoda also makes a good pair
@scotts4125
@scotts4125 Жыл бұрын
Not sure which model Knipex flush cutters I have but they are the best I have ever used.
@vadim3976
@vadim3976 Жыл бұрын
@@bcwrangler absolutely Tsunoda makes a good quality tools, but it gonna rust. I'm using this and similar Japan brands for decades. I personally can't stand rusty tools.
@vadim3976
@vadim3976 Жыл бұрын
@@scotts4125 Knipex 78 03 125 maybe?
@scotts4125
@scotts4125 Жыл бұрын
@@vadim3976 72 01 160
@kamrankureshi5615
@kamrankureshi5615 Жыл бұрын
Pwweppp! What a blast!
@stephenbonin3049
@stephenbonin3049 Жыл бұрын
It’s not difficult to find better than snap-on.
@michaelbuddy
@michaelbuddy Жыл бұрын
Nice finish on the video. You wrapped it up like a scripted video essay. That's why you-da-man.
@creerbyrge
@creerbyrge Жыл бұрын
Hellermanntyton EVO7 I know...
@Callelle6251
@Callelle6251 Жыл бұрын
There are so many cutters just as good as Snap Ons, Tsunoda being one of them. I'll take my Icon flush cuts over the snap ons any day.
@sludgefactory241
@sludgefactory241 Жыл бұрын
God, I gotta keep my eye on this thread to see if anyone starts throwing shade cuz you're endorsing something HF and not the "real" tool brands 😂 I dig HF for some things. Have heard that ICON line is pretty good
@mandbaudio
@mandbaudio Жыл бұрын
General quality aside, why are these better than your standard flush cutter?
@lastbesttool
@lastbesttool Жыл бұрын
Might be less expensive, and the tilted head offers a different working angle that could be better for the situation. I will be doing another video with yet another option.
@ChickenLips412
@ChickenLips412 Жыл бұрын
On the Amazon link, the 4” version (KBN100S) has what appears to be a black “roll-pin” or set screw perpendicular to the plier hinge. Can anyone tell the purpose of this? Could it be a depth of cut adjustment?
@NWGR
@NWGR Жыл бұрын
They have a spring, so it might be a lock to keep them shut for storage.
@johnnyolson258
@johnnyolson258 Жыл бұрын
It's meant to keep the pliers from opening too far, I imagine to keep the spring from falling out. I lost my pin and immediately after lost my spring as well. Love these cutters but the spring on the 45 degree 4in as well as the 6in 90 degree cutters is a bad design and falls out easily
@GamingwithGamerGirls
@GamingwithGamerGirls Жыл бұрын
lol panduit has made a tool for 40 years that pulls the zip tie tight and cuts it off all in one motion.
@michaelbuddy
@michaelbuddy Жыл бұрын
Panduit GS4H Cable Tie Tool on Amazon is $720 -- you are out of your mind if you think people are gonna pay that unless ALL they do all day is zip ties. Never met a guy who did zip ties all day. I'm sure he exists but I know a lot more guys who would pay $20 and still feel indulgent for the Tsunoda.
@1947froggy
@1947froggy Жыл бұрын
Now $35.
@platoscavealum902
@platoscavealum902 Жыл бұрын
👍
@oxox8980
@oxox8980 Жыл бұрын
The Tsunoda looks a lot like ones made by Fujiya
@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo
@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, I’m missing something. I use a $4 Home Depot plastic zip tie gun that pulls the cable very tight then cuts it, or more often use the gun then cut them with any pair of small jawed diagonal cutters. That being said, I love precise tools, and guess a perfectly flush cut would matter in electrical work in close spaces or something. BTW, should be pretty easy to make a Kydex cover for these if that’s a concern.
@R2robot
@R2robot Жыл бұрын
14 dollar difference between the 4" and 6" on Amazon.
@vidarsjogren
@vidarsjogren Жыл бұрын
knipex?
@Callelle6251
@Callelle6251 Жыл бұрын
lol no
@vidarsjogren
@vidarsjogren Жыл бұрын
@@Callelle6251 i ment why not knipex?
@Callelle6251
@Callelle6251 Жыл бұрын
@@vidarsjogren because it's just another over hyped, over priced brand.
@vidarsjogren
@vidarsjogren Жыл бұрын
@@Callelle6251 but you know they perform and aren't hyper-priced. I think knipex is a great brand.
@Callelle6251
@Callelle6251 Жыл бұрын
@@vidarsjogren I also know that my Doyles perform just as well, and that just about every other water pump plier works just as well at a fraction of the price.
@KittySN
@KittySN Жыл бұрын
Not worth it for $22.75. It's under $13 on Amazon Japan. The USD is wildly strong to Pounds, Euros and Yen.
@AToolWithTools
@AToolWithTools Жыл бұрын
How much is it with shipping? Not always worth ordering off Amazon JP unless you're getting a lot of stuff at once.
@KittySN
@KittySN Жыл бұрын
@@AToolWithTools You're spot on, but that's the only catch. Definitely the way to go if you're spending a hundred or few. I think my past couple of JP orders were like $300 and (shipped from) Amazon charged me once like $35 for DHL. Same thing was true for DE, but in Euro.
@aihysp
@aihysp Жыл бұрын
you are my tool gouro , but i can never understnad your fantic snapon defence...nice tools , way over priced , and you can see on each category... even the ones that thay are not even involved in the making... for me it will always put me off , if a comapny , cant tell that thay have some cheap tools, so i tend to avoid them...but its just me :)
@michaelbuddy
@michaelbuddy Жыл бұрын
thing is with tools, they wear. And made in USA matters, especially of that quality. When you have made in USA, supporting american company AND with a stellar warranty? That's kinda great. Never been on a snapon truck myself. Would never want to get 20k in debt if I were a young tradesman either. That said, you're buying the tool for life AND they hold value, without a doubt, snapon hold value. Some other tools do too, many do not.
@aihysp
@aihysp Жыл бұрын
​@@michaelbuddyvery good point ! but not for me ... i am not in the US... and i am not a trade person by any means... just for Home and DIY stuff ... wear is not issue, but i think the main take here is if you work with your tools every day there is no price for convince and duribilty , even if sometimes a litle shady :)
@shawnoen1029
@shawnoen1029 Жыл бұрын
These are $35 and Snap on are $75.
@Dr650rob
@Dr650rob Жыл бұрын
Japanese tools are were it's at
@jort93z
@jort93z Жыл бұрын
can't you just use flush cutters? Commonly used for electronics, can get them for less than $5. These don't look that different to flush cutters to me.
@chrisharper2658
@chrisharper2658 Жыл бұрын
The proper tool is a 'cable tie gun/cutter' not dykes. It tensions the cable tie and then cuts it. They are not very expensive either. Only use the dykes in confined spaces.
@STRIKER520
@STRIKER520 Жыл бұрын
They cut cable ties if you buy the Snap pn you have more money than brains.Same people that care what other people think of what they drive.
@Gillysaurxx
@Gillysaurxx Жыл бұрын
Really splitting hairs on this one. Much rather save the money than have the strap on ones
@roryd8813
@roryd8813 Жыл бұрын
Snap on is over priced junk, its not hard to find something with better value, have a look at how snap on scores in Project Farms videos. Its not good.
@RogerRabbitt
@RogerRabbitt Жыл бұрын
If your a mechanic tho it's hard to beat snap on, replacing is super easy and won't set you back time wise like waiting for a replacement in the mail
@BSOE3058
@BSOE3058 Жыл бұрын
I mean, ya both are correct Snap-On has excellent, average and awful products. But most things are at least slightly overpriced (in my opinion), especially when ya can find them as OEMs in different brands.
@AndrewStrydomBRP
@AndrewStrydomBRP Жыл бұрын
@@BSOE3058 Usually the good stuff is what snap on doesn't actually make themselves and instead rebrands something, literally snap on trades on name and having that van, but for the price they ask, just buy two of anything that might break from someone else, and even then buy some super cheap stuff to beat on.
@christianness8983
@christianness8983 Жыл бұрын
I do think their stuff is overpriced for what you're getting, but they're definitely not junk. I have some of their pliers and they're nice, but Knipex or Fujiya are better.
@Callelle6251
@Callelle6251 Жыл бұрын
Over priced? Most certainly, but Snap On is far from junk.
@JohnnyG2573
@JohnnyG2573 Жыл бұрын
First?
@toshmiller5571
@toshmiller5571 Жыл бұрын
For cutting zip ties im a big fan of the knipex 7803125
@cjr1881
@cjr1881 Жыл бұрын
Didn't use the pliers part of it to get the cable tights. How can you do a review on them and not demonstrate that?
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