Space Engineers - Connecting Multiple Pistons, Advanced Tutorial

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9 жыл бұрын

When it comes to building almost anything using pistons you will soon come to the realization that a single piston is not always the best option and in most situations it tends to be unstable and can cause damage to surrounding blocks. Connecting Multiple Pistons makes a much more stable platform.
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Space Engineer is like a mixture between Minecraft and Kerbal Space Program. The game is in pre-alpha and will be released on steam at some point in the future.
The main purpose of the game seems to be building a space fleet and fight/ally with the other factions. You build your ships piece by piece and the only know limit for the size of your ship is what you computer can handle.

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@Muzzled 9 жыл бұрын

This should be a standard feature, along with the small/large rotor "glitch." The engine can CLEARLY support it, so there's no reason to have anything impeding this construction.

@ILKOSTFU 4 жыл бұрын

still the same issue...

@MasthaX 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's not a standard feature because you can really easily create a clang mess with this if you're not careful. What I find useful beside this method is using a plate welding mod where you can connect these surfaces together if you bring them close. Also very useful for repairing broken ships, it's basically a 0-width merge block if you think about it. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=510790477

@Lysenis 9 жыл бұрын

You have NO IDEA how much I have been looking for this. . .

@bladeforce_tv 9 жыл бұрын

good thing you published this video guys, has been a great help to stabilize the lift of my WIP cybran command class carrier (supreme commander 1) with only one piston it always damaged the ship but using this method to add 4 more made it very stable ;)

@DavidsKanal 9 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! I've been trying to figure this out for days.

@k1ll3rM 9 жыл бұрын

FINALLY! I've wanted this for ages!

@HazardWolfCorp 9 жыл бұрын

FINALLY i have been trying to figure this out for a week now, THANK YOU!!!

@RaiderNic99 9 жыл бұрын

I definitely know where I'm coming for all tutorials once I start playing this game in the, hopefully, near future.

@wantblackwolf 8 жыл бұрын

I just leave the merge blocks on mine no chance of a fuss latter. Tip: just make one piston the main one by raising it build the platform on that one piston then lower it down onto the other pistons the merge blocks will do the rest. You don't need a merge block on the main one. I do this with my drilling rig for planets but I start with the drills first and build up from there. Link the pistons on top. The main piston gets a conveyor on it so I can feed the ore to a cargo container. Then I build down and around it once done cut the landing gear on the drill and they are free. I leave 4 drills out for two spotlights, reactor, and ore detector. Drop a chair on it to control the drills separate from the rest as well lower into the hole to see the ore. It's been very stable for me.

@Sayoko-Von-Silve 9 жыл бұрын

Oh... I feel so stupid. I *_never_* knew or thought or heard of this. LastStandGamers I want to thank you SO MUCH for showing this! I have _many times_ wanted to do this very exact thing, and I had no idea how to do it. It helps _tremendously_ to know how to attach multiple pistons to a single platform! This is a breath of fresh air towards all my designs I can make. I wish it was _easier_ to do this, but I'll take having an option _at all_ to do it in the first place! Thank you again! Yes! (*flies off to go build more things in space*) -_I'll Be Watching._

@lanmasterd 9 жыл бұрын

Been trying to work that out for 24 hours or more .. that way u did made it look way way simple.. thanks

@abordoli 9 жыл бұрын

So glad I found this video as I need it for a huge elevator that I'm building. Great job!

@SatyrOdium 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Really, I trying since days to create a stable and usable retractable pod for large ship (like in Battlestar Galactica), it seems that your tutorial will help a lot to do this.

@ArcturusArcher 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I was struggling against clang so much! X3

@degan51 9 жыл бұрын

I was just struggling with this the other day. Thanks!

@tatehenson3611 Ай бұрын

Omg thank you for this idk how many builds got erased due to failed linked pistons so not enough strength to accomplish job

@demolishunDOTcom 8 жыл бұрын

Short and sweet! Thanks

@SmokyBanjo 9 жыл бұрын

That is so useful to know. I needed this for a mining ship I'm working on.

@arthersaur4577 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks Arron, this helps me alot with my larger ship builds :)

@Tonisaka 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't do it on large blocks, but it still works, thanks a bunch, very nice to see it works, made it on a planet, a nice trick to get it working for me on a planet is to make one opposite merge block, and attach that to the ground using the landing gear and a piston to go up and down (then un-attach the merge block) and then create the rest and reattach all merging blocks.

@Youre-so-right 3 жыл бұрын

come here for the tutorial, spent half my time admiring the planet in the background lol thanks though LSG 👍 Plus Wow.. your "Armsy" ship looks Amazing, cant wait to use all im learning in creative as a test (currently playing through on solo survival) and then hopefully.. to a server where i can hide from Clang! lol

@CommanderManMan 3 жыл бұрын

thanks did this with pistons and merge blocks but not like you. getting a shake so gonna try your way. so good. very helpful

@FreemanFreak87 5 жыл бұрын

This is awesome. Thank you so much for the help!

@Ischmac 9 жыл бұрын

You sir, are my hero. I've been looking for a solution for that problem for quite some time XD

@schneider1492 9 жыл бұрын

if you copy it from one of the corner (merge) blocks, you can move the crosshair over the merge block you want to attach it to and it will snap in place. you can even rotate/flip as if you were placing a block

@zakattack1945 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I have blown up to many hangers trying to find a way to do that.

@TheScawer 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! Amazing!

@wchensel 9 жыл бұрын

I love informational videos like this. +1

@sirnomnoms126 9 жыл бұрын

thanks I didn't know about this, could have been very helpful to know in the past :P

@JoTheVeteran 9 жыл бұрын

Nice tutorial, I was wondering if that was even possible, thanks man!

@EyeDentify 9 жыл бұрын

Great tips :) i cant belive its so simple :) great explaining :)

@mattmanmv13 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you this still works!

@mirofski1280 9 жыл бұрын

thank you for this video on the behalf of the draconian alliance. you have made our elevators much safer

@Mrstealth93 9 жыл бұрын

LastStandGamers Oh man. Thanks for the help, Arron. Now i know how to cluster pistons together and make a more secure piston device, like a hangar blast door or a extendable ramp. Its because i was building a ship that suddenly went absolutely crazy because of some bent blocks and the piston bein extended. Now i just need to build it with two pistons instead of one when i can get back into the server.

@TopDrek 9 жыл бұрын

You act as if he helped you individually. You act as if this video was made because of you.

@Mrstealth93 9 жыл бұрын

Fleet Admiral IKrunch Dude. I just appreciate that there is being uploaded videos with useful tips. And i wrote the comment to let him know.

@TopDrek 9 жыл бұрын

***** You typed it as if you knew him personally, he isn't going to respond or like it you know.

@TopDrek 9 жыл бұрын

Matthew Cox If you can't figure out that 4 pistons will be more stable than one, then you need shouldn't be playing this game.

@Mrstealth93 9 жыл бұрын

Fleet Admiral IKrunch Yeah. Because its so easy for everyone to play and understand the many techniques that you can use in Space Engineers.

@peely1239 9 жыл бұрын

Wow this is the first time I've on youtube and my best youtuber has made a video in a couple of minutes

@Frabtious 9 жыл бұрын

Wow this is brilliant.

@sanderasdf9555 9 жыл бұрын

Using merge blocks to connect several pistons were one of the first things I tried out when the pistons first arrived.

@sanderasdf9555 9 жыл бұрын

What I did was to rise one of the pistons, build most of the platform on top of it, attach merge blocks to it and the remaining pistons, and then simply lower the first piston.

@Ladrius4000 2 жыл бұрын

Shit! If this still works, you are an absolute life saver man.

@FrostyyShooter 7 жыл бұрын

i tried this but then with an 20x20 platform with 6 pistons stacking each other. it exploded. idk why

@iinRez 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you Arron I have a single piston ship ramp that continually explodes on me, now I know why Ive been stranded in the black for days.

@Karlisiyo1188 9 жыл бұрын

Well I did the same thing using rotors some time ago :D, for my piston-rotor hangar door, the only problem with that was sparks when the hangar door was sliding back in along the seeking of hangar

@GROOV3ST3R 9 жыл бұрын

Hey Arron, do you have any idea how to make a good and stable swing ramp with multiple rotors? I tried a few times but it's very difficult to get everything right and keep the system from tearing itself apart due to offset. I would love to see that done right :)

@tylerpoppy8095 9 жыл бұрын

You sir are a genius!

@zakidabbas7878 9 жыл бұрын

more multiplayer with sage and tazo plz

@josephcalhoun5811 2 жыл бұрын

7 years ago and still helping us, can you show us a vidototurial for suspension tires as elevators?

@spaghetti7782 9 жыл бұрын

i hope they will add piston cooperation at one point, so you could just build it and it would work, right?

@FlipLogic 9 жыл бұрын

If you don't feel like maneuvering a platform of merge blocks around in tight spaces, you can simply extend 1 piston, build your merge block structure on it, then add a merge block to the other pistons and extend them one at a time till they connect. Again, this method is probably most useful when you are trying to build a multi-piston structure in an area that wouldn't be easy to maneuver large structures in (narrow elevator shafts, inside space ships, etc)

@ravynknight7146 9 жыл бұрын

GENIUS! i never thought of trying to use merge blocks.. does this work with rotors as well to make stable swinging hanger doors by having a rotor on each side of the pivot point? Especially now that you can set the offset of the rotors themselves..

@irjanolsen4684 9 жыл бұрын

Awsome!

@YourMissingEyeBrow 8 жыл бұрын

+LastStandGamers Hi Arron. I'm trying to set up the nacelles for voyager, using conveyor hinges. Could you show me how to set up a line of hinges?

@yarinice1 9 жыл бұрын

That's brilliant.

@ballooniecat 9 жыл бұрын

Would this work for a docking arm? I've tried putting a docking arm on a piston, and it snaps like a toothpick the moment the connection is made and the slightest gyro motion from one ship or the other happens. If you made the arm with 2 or even four pistons, would it stand up to the torque do you think?

@ChaosShadoWolfe 9 жыл бұрын

Have you tried this with a rotor? And not just an advanced Rotor, but the regular rotors as well. It's a great way of securing an oversized, out-of-balance hatch, loading bay or whatever to a ship or station. I've been tinkering around with that idea and it is only possible with merge blocks. It's generally easy and if you want me to show you, I'll happily do so.

@megaman2132 8 жыл бұрын

i havnt tried it yet but is they a way you could stack this design to span a big distance ( i want to make a very long elevator)

@chaosDEJhead 9 жыл бұрын

Oh man thanks for the info. This is gonna make asteroid life a lot easier.

@Splinter4077 9 жыл бұрын

I did this exact method a couple months ago, and it didn't actually work. The platform wobbled even harder and eventually exploded. Maybe it was a bug, but whatever it was, glad to see I can finally have multiple piston creations.

@funtimewithfalcon 27 күн бұрын

Damn, this video got old, but still applies

@HelixFlame33 9 жыл бұрын

I hope the devs will implement this in their clean-up phase, same with rotors.

@Joycexxu 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you! ^^

@armonshamley1140 Жыл бұрын

I don't know if this defeats my question but let's say I had a long ship kind of like a pencil and it splits in half is there a way I can line up the other half to the other half and make it one big solid pencil again without any connectors

@impofan6915 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video, now i can build more stable mining rigs...i hope

@user-tx2xs9ss3b 9 жыл бұрын

AWESOME!!!!!!!

@MODattack 9 жыл бұрын

That cool!!!

@MegaRussian12 4 жыл бұрын

I am creating a ship with a land vehicle hangar bay that has an elevator for a rover. And I added 4 pistons to the platform, one on each side. But only one piston is actually pulling/pushing the grid while the rest of the 3 aren't even connected to it.

@Convectrix 9 жыл бұрын

nice. watched pretty much all your vids and know nearly as much as you do now and never have played the game. i own it but my computer is a pile of crap 'P lol

@robertcartwright2236 9 жыл бұрын

What if you were to have 2 pistons at a right angle, 1 extended the other not, connected to a platform by rotors? When you reversed the pistons they would move the platform into a right angle from its starting position.

@LethalOwl 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir.

@fbiiz187 9 жыл бұрын

really useful

@greenscorpeon3 9 жыл бұрын

arron are you going to publish the abandoned lunar facility?

@aarontena 9 жыл бұрын

I think yes

@armonshamley1140 Жыл бұрын

Let's just say I pulled up to the other broken half and I just bounces away is there a way I can make that whole entire shift connect and solid again I don't know how to explain this

@paillettecnc 9 жыл бұрын

Oh gods, thank you! I need the same for the rotors, please?

@MsZsc 9 жыл бұрын

So simple, yet so effective. Also slightly expensive.

@calebwerner8237 9 жыл бұрын

i wish i had found this sooner *thinks about all the scrapped projects*

@Waves0815 9 жыл бұрын

I was really confused by the video preview... It just looked like it was my biggest spaceship^^'

@dankbeluga9636 9 жыл бұрын

Make another video on connecting rotors too

@justahappyfellow 9 жыл бұрын

Arron, just wondering. The patch you wore in one of your airsoft videos a while ago that you later asked if we knew what it was, was it a drax airlines (Drax enterprise corporation, moonraker) patch? Just interested to know what it really was, must have missed the video with the correct answer. Cheers.

@Not_Hans 9 жыл бұрын

No longer seems to work some thing in one of the recent updates made it so merge blocks wont connect to pistons regardless of how you set it up... The best work around i have found is Putting rotors on the ends of the pistons followed by the merge block... Out side of that i haven't been able to get this trick to work at all.

@RobotGoPewPew 9 жыл бұрын

What if you connect them all up and only reverse 1-3 of the 4 pistons? Does something break or does nothing happen?

@sentinelwinters6584 7 жыл бұрын

I dont know if its the fact that im using stacked pistons, but when i connect them to the platform they rip the piston head... im connecting it with a ship with inertia dampners off

@creater20225 5 жыл бұрын

ok now how would i do this with a 5 by 5 downwords drill? (aka 25 drills in a squrare on a giant large grid rover)

@HobgoblinUK 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Now must dash I have some lifts to improve :D

@LuanNguyen-ml6qw 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much

@hornyducks4090 9 жыл бұрын

yay! i sent this idea to you awile ago

@MrHooters123 9 жыл бұрын

When are you guys continuing the joint survival

@grejsancoprative 9 жыл бұрын

There's a similar way with the rotors too, that you have to show!

@MeliokFR 9 жыл бұрын

Does it still work ? My pistons won't group together well. I've only the option to turn them on or off, but can't set the maximal range & so on ... EDIT : Working with control interface (K) but not when setting groups actions (G)

@GBNGames 9 жыл бұрын

hey, im playing in survival and i want to move the blocks, but i can´t. they just stand there with no support and i can´t move them, even if i ram them with my ship. how do i fix it?

@zakiNBG 9 жыл бұрын

alternative version if you dont wanna mess around with ships pushing it into position in survival: -put block on each piston -extend one -put mergeblock sidewas facing to each other -lover the extended piston -repair the little dmg caused by the collison with your welder

@BoredDan7 9 жыл бұрын

Don't put the merge blocks sideways. You put them facing away from the piston, then build off the extending piston so that is has a block one block away from each of the merge blocks, extend it, then place the merge blocks one that extensions facing towards the other blocks. This way the merge blocks pull themselves into place rather then scraping into each other if you were to place them sideways. The other way to think of it is basically if you did what he did in that video except for one arm extends and you build the free piece off of that extended arm. Then you simply pull it back into place.

@AndrewISJapan 9 жыл бұрын

BoredDan the piston heads just detach for me 99% of the time but might be because I'm on a dedicated server... I might try the sideways merge blocks and see if that works. Rotors on the pistons stop them from breaking but make the attached blocks very bouncy and unstable.

@milesalfonso1669 9 жыл бұрын

Andrew Meredith naah tried this, wont even go yellow

@AndrewISJapan 9 жыл бұрын

I found that the pistons in the pistons mod seem a little more resilient than the normal ones... I'm still not getting the result I would like... Sigh.

@BelgianDneprGuy2003 8 жыл бұрын

now in the current version i try to put a welder on a piston but i won't let me place it.i is like the head of the piston needs to be deleted but thn my piston won't go.i think this is a bug

@xezzee 9 жыл бұрын

What happens, if you do the same thing with the turning motors?? - will they turn different ways killing them self or???

@Skythedragon 9 жыл бұрын

you could also paint them. it sounds weird, but it works

@blakehostetter4761 9 жыл бұрын

Like number 1... Thuosand

@martinsalko1 9 жыл бұрын

this was not possible in older versions. it created an infinite loop by searching for connected components (other pistons, doors etc.) it would literary show you the overflow in app log ;)

@MazeFrame 9 жыл бұрын

If you want to assign something to the hotbar, just rightclick it. For "functions", a menu will pop up and ask you what function you want to assign :)

@mickbots8160 9 жыл бұрын

Have you ad sage stopped your survival world you should keep it going

@alexanderambruso6970 9 жыл бұрын

You should use the tentacles from that alien video and build robots from like pacific rim and fight with them

@Kingwut117 9 жыл бұрын

Awesome! But, can you do something like this for rotors? I have a rotor ramp that is very unstable because I can only fit a single rotor on the SIDE, not very good. Is it possible to put one on the other side as well?

@xedemisomnia6585 9 жыл бұрын

Dunno, sounds like something you should try yourself

@003Jetfire 9 жыл бұрын

xedemi somnia Yes you can, though keep in mind you will need to set the offsets. Also keep in mind that because of the inaccuracies of setting rotor min & max angle, and speed, you will probably want one rotor as the drive rotor and the other as a free rotor.

@benjaminbreeg6214 9 жыл бұрын

It is possible. Word of warning though, when I did it for foldable solar panel arms on my ship it caused the entire ship to rotate when moving for no apparent reason.

@003Jetfire 9 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Breeg Just to clarify, when you say moving, do you mean deploying the sail, or flying the ship around? Also, how many sails did you have?

@benjaminbreeg6214 9 жыл бұрын

003Jetfire I had 4 arms about the same length as the ship symmetrically placed on each side. The whole ship would constantly rotate when moving and turning was almost impossible because it would spin out of control.

@jamessabins887 9 жыл бұрын

i cant get it to work. like itll be 2 connect and the other 2 break off or dont connect correctly

@ivanlovell1195 9 жыл бұрын

Just one more way that the Kraken is being squeezed out of this game.

@EvolvedSungod 6 жыл бұрын

Every time I try this 1 connects and tries to flip the top piece 90° or 180° The merge blocks don't have any visual markers to say what the alignment is, but they definitely do seem to have a specific direction they prefer. If not for shield blocks my base would have been ripped apart.

@wafftrotter648 6 жыл бұрын

Try making sure all pistons are orientated the same and attach them one by one, by extending them into the floating platform. It can be done, but takes a fair bit of faffing about.

@kyriansalvar247 9 жыл бұрын

So I haven't tried this before, but I can't help but wonder whats wrong with building the piston first then a platform on top? In the video, he shows himself placing the pistons under the platform and then trying to use the button. If you put the pistons in a group, wouldn't it achieve the same results as all this merge block mess?

@Knsgf 9 жыл бұрын

Only 1 piston will be actually attached in this case; the others will just push. And when pistons start to retract the platform will still bounce.