LATE ROTATION? Canadian North 737-200 FULL TAKEOFF From Yellowknife

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Back in July 2019, I flew on one of Canadian North's Boeing 737-200s, C-GOPW, for the last time on a day trip between Edmonton and Yellowknife with some good friends of mine.
In honour of OPW's recent retirement from Canadian North, I wanted to share this takeoff footage, which has some of the best JT8D engine sounds I've ever heard, not to mention a pretty long takeoff roll!
Enjoy the sights and sounds of this 737-200, making a late rotation off of runway 16 at YZF, on a particularly muggy day!
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FLIGHT INFORMATION
Airline: Canadian North (MPE/5T)
Aircraft: Boeing 737-275(C) (B732)
Flight Number: 5T445
Seat: 4A
Livery: Old
Engines: 2x JT8D-17
Registration: C-GOPW
Route: Yellowknife (YZF) - Edmonton (YEG)
Callsign: EMPRESS 445 (rip)
Runway used: 16
Date filmed: July 2019
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Outro song - "Take Flight" by Nyhtian: • Nyhtian - Take Flight ...
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@AlexPraglowskiAviation 3 жыл бұрын

As much as I wish this were recent, this was filmed back in July 2019. I never did upload the full takeoff footage with my trip report of this flight, so please enjoy the JT8D music!

@plutoamor 3 жыл бұрын

It was excellent..I love the screaming engines of the 732 and 727..Do you also have the landing? THey do a great spool-up, idle and then thrust-reverse that's a killer?

@giantglorovich5739 2 жыл бұрын

Какой древний двигатель у него 😳😳😳😳

@perlamalicse6657 2 жыл бұрын

This boeing 737-100

@robertlworley 3 жыл бұрын

In case anyone is wondering, that tube extending forward from underneath the engine is a vortex dissipater. These prevent a vortex forming at the engine intakes which could cause gravel to be ingested by engine. These consist of a small forward projecting tube which blows pressure regulated (55psi) engine bleed air down and aft from 3 nozzles at the tip to break up the vortices.

@simonbone 3 жыл бұрын

And this is the reason 737-200s are still in use in Northern Canada. They're the only models to offer this feature. The nose wheel also has a gravel deflector behind it, essentially a kind of mud flap.

@MattCampbelification 3 жыл бұрын

why arent these used on the 777 and 787?

@simonbone 3 жыл бұрын

@@MattCampbelification Those planes are way too big and heavy to land on a gravel strip.

@picklerick_404 Жыл бұрын

@@MattCampbelificationMost gravel airstrips are too short to support those planes, as they usually land at airports such as Heathrow or JFK, where the runways are paved. Basically, there’s no demand for a gravel kit on those planes.

@Fix_em_jets 11 ай бұрын

False! It’s a magical wizard rod that allows the plane to achieve light speed just like the Scientologists said their DC-8’s had on them. Wake up you guys.

@cameronmd80 3 жыл бұрын

Reminding of the good ol days with Bahamasair. We have a 2 mile runway and our old 200s still used to struggle 🥴

@christoohunders5316 3 жыл бұрын

Have you flown on air Bahama Intl dc-8 ? Refuel at Shannon arriving from Luxemburg, great souvenirs

@md-80enjoyer95 3 жыл бұрын

I loves those planes and the 500s, too bad they're gone 😕

@cameronmd80 3 жыл бұрын

@@christoohunders5316 I can assure that the cells used to bring me into existence didn't even exist yet when air Bahama was a thing. 🤭

@aviationin4k258 3 жыл бұрын

@@md-80enjoyer95 500s still around with cargo

@jonathanadderley2444 3 жыл бұрын

Bro i just was thinking this watching this🥴🤣

@BXTS 3 жыл бұрын

That JT8D sound 😍

@SSAviation737 2 жыл бұрын

The GLORIOUS sound of the JT8D!

@phungminhlong9168 8 ай бұрын

JT8D in MD80s is way way better than this

@SSAviation737 8 ай бұрын

@@phungminhlong9168 I prefer this because it’s louder but that is awesome too

@cdsmrailaviation1099 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic sound! Loved the bonus footage of the Electra that we didn't get to see in the trip report as well!

@cupofjoen 2 жыл бұрын

You looked like a mentour pilot subscriber 😅

@bembs0256 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of my childhood, since I used to fly on Boeing 737-200 back then with Sriwijaya Air. When I hear that roaring sound during take-off, that window view of the tiny engine, ahh just like the good old days…

@craigfed8883 3 жыл бұрын

I love the sound of those engines. Brings me back to flying USAir shuttle flights.

@jeffreygosselin1143 3 жыл бұрын

….. or US Airways Metrojet!

@craigfed8883 3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreygosselin1143 Good call! Shuttle was the 727. I was pretty young and forgot there was the metrojet too.

@ijngig 3 жыл бұрын

Love the 737-200! Thanks so much Alex for the TV series featuring Buffalo Air.

@swiper1818 3 жыл бұрын

lovely old fashioned Boeing sound similar to what you would hear on a 707 - last time I flew on a 737 200 was on Canadian/Canadien between YYC and YVR leaving Calgary in sub -20c conditions many years ago pre 2000

@generaladmi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Alex. Great video of a work horse of the aviation industry

@PaulStewartAviation 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome footage! What an incredible sound!

@SMNAviation 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you here!

@cajonesy 22 күн бұрын

What a sound those JT8D's make In my opinion 737 200 is the best model 👌

@Alexiosftw Жыл бұрын

Those JT8D’s sound amazing at takeoff power. Music to my ears!

@derekgibson3859 3 ай бұрын

Only been on 2 flights of a -200 and loved them. The sound of JT8D's was music to my ears, and seeing the thrust reverse 'bucket' in action was so cool!

@caseyeyegetok8080 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Alex, I am from Cambridge Bay,Nunavut one of 2 remaining stops for the B732 currently operating 6 days a week. I am very fortunate to work around this beautiful aircraft. Keep up the amazing videos/photos.

@kenbarthSimAV8tor 3 жыл бұрын

Notice the gravel kits on engines for gravel airstrips; nice video

@GabrielViana-mg3vh Жыл бұрын

Gravelkit lol, not the dispensers

@HDAviationVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful! Nice memories! My last 737-200 flight was in August 2000...

@fredharvey2720 5 ай бұрын

Mine April 1986

@Flyingfinn82 3 жыл бұрын

Normal rotation in my experience they were using reduced thrust to save engine wear. 100% normal procedure

@jayit6851 3 жыл бұрын

With a slight tailwind as well

@ErickC 2 жыл бұрын

Nope - listen to the engines. Not a reduced thrust takeoff at all. I'd wager somewhere around 2.10-2.15-ish EPR range. Not firewalled by any means but not really in the "reduced power range," either. In fact it's pretty typical. The video description makes it pretty clear that it was a muggy July day, however.

@jfmezei 3 жыл бұрын

In 1989, I flew C-GSPW from Yellowknife to Resolute. The take off roll was VERY slow and the plane,with the front fully loaded with cargo was visibly working hard to hard to slowly gain altitude. No quick rise near vertical for noise abatement such as when leaving large cities :-). When I saw your video with you boarding front door, I knew your take off would be quite normal :-)

@tristan3665 3 жыл бұрын

I have been wanting to go up to the northern provinces for a long time now, unfortunately, with the situation, it's not feasible. Thank you for the great upload!

@dlane5292 12 күн бұрын

Western, Delta, United, Continental, U.S. Air, South West, & America West. I've experienced flights with the 737-200's with all 7 of those carriers back in the day. So retien then, now I miss them.

@medviation 3 жыл бұрын

God I miss those whines of the JT8D.

@apolakigamingandmore6376 3 жыл бұрын

How 'bout the Hell Sirens of the Ju-87 Stukas?

@apolakigamingandmore6376 3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, I love the animation of the "Wing Flex"! I love to see them!

@adamc.2987 3 жыл бұрын

I like the brief shot of the Buffalo Airways L-188 during your taxi. Reminds me of my favorite reality show rebroadcast on the Weather Channel here in the U.S.

@brucesmith9144 3 жыл бұрын

Arguably the best show WC ever aired. Much better IMV than _Storm Stories_ .

@adamc.2987 3 жыл бұрын

@@brucesmith9144 ... Agreed! There are so few reality shows to keep us aviation enthusiasts entertained. Thank god for KZfaq (and channels like this one).

@Falbetsu 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I have a suggestion: Flair announced that they would begin services from Grande Prairie (CYQU) to Vancouver and Toronto. Inaugural flight is planned in August (idk exact date). I was wondering if you could do a trip report type of vlog as personally I would find it interesting being a resident of Grande Prairie.

@MelinaFermill Ай бұрын

C-17 Globemaster casually in the background 😂😂😂😂

@jcbaily5559 3 жыл бұрын

It is always a treat to go flying with you. It would have been nice to see the inflight service food/beverage service and what happened to your ending music?

@skipcampbell4226 5 ай бұрын

My last 737-200 flight. Was HOU-DAL-AMA. Early 2005 SWA. My younger brother and sister and i were on it. Sitting in the seats facing each other. I told them to enjoy it. Because it would be the last time any of us would be in a 200. By summer they all were gone. They both loved the loud jet engines and clamshell reversers. What a treat! And a great flight.

@3MinutesofAviation 9 ай бұрын

Stunning capture! May I feature this late takeoff in one of my next episodes? Of course again with a link back to your original video. All the best to you!

@turk223 3 жыл бұрын

Spectacular video!

@joshs4594 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I'd love to visit Yellowknife Airport because there are many historic aircraft there. ✈

@jond8070 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.

@__Dusty_ 3 жыл бұрын

5:52 wonder why they took off with a tailwind?

@franke5478 3 жыл бұрын

Every plane as a value with how much tailwind it can still take off. But you're right this was really close to the 1000 feed marking on the run way.

@gp8209 3 жыл бұрын

~3kt tailwind isn't enough to negatively affect performance and allowed them to fly a more direct route (taking off to the south vs. having to climb northbound and wait for radar vectors), saving fuel.

@marclandreville6367 3 жыл бұрын

Tailwind limitation is 10 knots for take-off or landing. Slight tailwind taken into account in take-off performance calculations. Yes, performance calculations are done before every take-off. Nothing to worry about.

@martinparsons6225 11 ай бұрын

Marvellous happy memories

@AE.rojet_aviation Жыл бұрын

Never heard of that kind of buzzsaw but it sounds good!

@Verztex Жыл бұрын

This plane is a legend

@yycaviation 3 жыл бұрын

What a beauty

@richardkallio3868 Жыл бұрын

I experienced a takeoff like that once. It was on board a fully-loaded 737 from Toronto to Montreal, and was with the now-defunct carrier Canadian Airlines. It seemed we were rolling for so long, and eating up so much runway, that toward the end of the run people were starting to whisper nervously amongst themselves, as in, "Are we ever going to get off the ground?" A moment later, there was a discernible rise in engine pitch (more power applied), then we abruptly rotated and I looked down just to see the end of the runway passing beneath us. I suspect to this day it was a case of incorrect initial thrust settings for the payload we were carrying. Needless to say, it was quite uncomfortable while it was happening!

@Snowy-oq4ur 10 ай бұрын

As a toilet in Venezuela I understand

@JoinEliteClan 7 ай бұрын

@@Snowy-oq4ur as a roll of toilet paper in Venezuela i understand.

@DannoAviation Жыл бұрын

Definitely more forwards than upwards… looks exciting!

@vanlevy2008 3 жыл бұрын

A Lockheed Electra flying. Did not know they were any left

@marriedGary 3 жыл бұрын

Flying with Buffalo Airways

@RGB06084 3 жыл бұрын

Wow Buffalo's Electra! Great catch Alex!

@leazer44 3 жыл бұрын

I remember working these as a flight attendant for United. It was so funny that we had to hold our ears for takeoff as those jt8s would howl!! But a great plane! We used to fly them into all the smaller towns and cities across the US , Canada and Mexico. The good ole days!😝👍🏽

@TrapLegionRecords 3 жыл бұрын

what a nice experience, thank you 😊

@lakewoodil 2 жыл бұрын

I was there when UA first flew the -100 into PHF. Some 'genius' in marketing decided it would be a great idea to configure the A/C 24F/67Y . At least they replaced the DC-6 & Viscount in the small station market. Sometimes had to make an enroute fuel stop PHF-ORD due to fuel requirements at ORD.

@leazer44 2 жыл бұрын

@@lakewoodil I’m still in the game and the airlines are still making stupid decisions! Lol!

@lakewoodil 2 жыл бұрын

@@leazer44 So I hear. UA merged with CO, and CO apparently won!

@leazer44 2 жыл бұрын

@@lakewoodil Oh Yes ! Lol

@leonardomartins8187 3 жыл бұрын

Jt8d beautifull sound

@micahgotracksplays340 3 жыл бұрын

It’s like the saying goes: if your having a bad day that’s when you know your plane will do a late rotaté hahaha Cool video!

@matthewtownsend2368 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this aircraft

@vim9099 2 жыл бұрын

The "8D" in the JT8D label represents my smile 8D

@danieleregoli812 3 жыл бұрын

An amazing video of an amazing aircraft, no doubt about that! Thank You!

@christopherescott6787 3 жыл бұрын

My Dad Captained that frame for PWA and Canadian. I have flown on it many times all over Canada.

@stevehughes4400 3 жыл бұрын

Ken was a very calm, competent, pitot. Good man. (Steve Hughes Flight Dispatch TZ,PW,Cdn,AC)

@christopherescott6787 Жыл бұрын

@@stevehughes4400 Thankyou sir. A professional he was indeed .

@tomb4568 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! !!! I miss the -200s

@lymancopps5957 3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the old SouthWest Airline days when they only flew within Texas.

@raidernewf8355 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one, don't see many planes with gravel kits.

@AQWorldsRay 3 жыл бұрын

3:24 & 3:45 This fly got a free ride on a Canadian North B732

@FalconTheAviator Жыл бұрын

Even though they aren't as fuel efficient as the CFM56, I love the JT8D engines.

@ThatstaticEKHatch Ай бұрын

Looked her up she still flying today🙏

@CarlosGarcia-kg7ch 10 ай бұрын

Tailwind takeoff. Look at the windsock at the beginning of the take-off roll

@premiumaviation1911 3 ай бұрын

Nice C-17 in the background

@TheMatsushitaMan 2 жыл бұрын

That buzzsaw!

@thekingd9390 2 жыл бұрын

If money were no object I wonder if Boeing would build a brand new 737-200 for a private customer. I'd buy one if I ever hit the lottery lol

@marktomlinson7474 11 ай бұрын

Windsock just after the beginning of the takeoff roll looks to indicate a 8-10kt tailwind.

@Entity_BlackRed777 3 жыл бұрын

737-200s still fly today!? The engine is so small and funny looking!!

@AscendAviationYT 3 жыл бұрын

Yep! At my home in Toronto 737-200s come almost every week! Ive captured them before

@ChrisZoomER 3 жыл бұрын

Flying a commercial jet with fighter jet engines (low-bypass instead of high bypass) minus their afterburners, that's wicked cool.

@willamisbezerra6970 11 ай бұрын

Amo Esse Clássico ❤❤❤

@johncheresna 3 жыл бұрын

I have flown on CN. I think some of those planes are almost as old as me. (edit late 50's) Some don't just have 'doublers' but 'triple' patches.

@terencemooney6757 2 жыл бұрын

Late rotation due to taking off with the wind instead of into it. Check the wind sock at the start of the roll. Also the Buffalo Lockheed that he waited on before joining the runway was taking off into the wind. Interesting!!!

@christopherpericolosi-king4979 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, the good old engine screams of the 200 series lol. Great plane, but soooo loud!

@C4PYMATIONS 3 ай бұрын

737-100 and 737-200 engine looks like the napkin rolls

@waynemasters Жыл бұрын

Man, what a treat. I worked for USAir, and this was one bird I hated to see retire. Thanks for sharing, and yes... def a late rotate ;o)

@versasys 3 жыл бұрын

I used to work on that aircraft at Canadian Airlines

@schneevongestern9898 Жыл бұрын

the runway alone is already frightening

@johnnapier9756 9 ай бұрын

Without seeing the ASI or knowing the Vr it looked absolutely normal. 737-200 is an amazing machine.

@Wildlifesupernannyfan 3 ай бұрын

Fun fact. The Skyhawk fighter jet uses the same engine as a bieing 737 200!!!

@redscorpion9411 26 күн бұрын

Those tiny engines are so loud!

@12345fowler 3 жыл бұрын

It's not the rotation that is late it is the runway which is short. ;-)

@apolakigamingandmore6376 3 жыл бұрын

True! This! ^^^

@tomsamuelson8512 3 жыл бұрын

The runway is over 7500 ft long. Longer than LGA's runways in NYC.Maybe the crew did a flex (reduced power) take off?? Remember Alaska Airlines use to fly 737-200's into Dutch Harbor when it had a 3900 ft runway.Now that would have been exciting....

@ErickC 2 жыл бұрын

Nope - by the pitch of the fan it sounded like it was somewhere in the 2.10 - 2.15-ish EPR range. Alaska sure did fly the 737 out of PADU - but I'm going to guess that it was a weight-restricted takeoff (translation: not a lot of load and not a lot of fuel, so the next stop better be close and have a longer runway) and I'm also going to guess that a tradeoff was more flaps. More flaps means you can get off the ground sooner, but it also means more drag and less speed, which means reduced performance in the second segment climb. Not a huge issue with a light load over open water. Most people don't realize that the goal is to use as little flap and as much runway as is feasible because every little bit of extra energy helps the climb performance that much more. I'd imagine that a 73S departing LGA in the middle of July would probably be a little more weight-restricted than one departing Yellowknife, and I'd also bet that they'd still do their best to use as much of the runway as they could get away with. Anyway... I don't think this rotation was particularly late, I think the camera field of view makes it seem like the airplane was still on the ground when it wasn't. The plane was airborne by the aiming points (1,000 feet to the end of the runway). I also think it was a fairly shallow initial climb (which makes sense in July). The margins are definitely a lot easier to make with modern high-bypass engines - but they're just not as charming, are they?

@jNS278 3 жыл бұрын

LATE ROTATION?!!! CRASH?!! 😱😱😱😱. Alternative title

@vintagesupermarkets5210 Жыл бұрын

Damn that was a very long roll given YZF doesn't have the longest of runways. Looks like you only had a positive rate of climb about 300 m from the end of the runway. Only 6 days of 737-200C ops left at Canadian North. May 6, 2023 is the final curtain call. Aircraft is supposed to ferry YZF-YEG on the 7th for retirement.

@bobalto 3 жыл бұрын

If you could a same video with a B727 I would be really grateful for it. B727 reminds me my best childhood years

@andrewdeans8520 3 жыл бұрын

Bob - what airlines did you fly on and when?

@thearsenalmisfit2414 3 жыл бұрын

Not that close but I can see how people would be alarmed. The tail wing would have stretched the run out so its expected. Nice catch withe C17 and Buffalo L 188. I miss flying the old 200 from when I live in Whitehorse flying to Vancouver and back 2 or 3 times a week back in the 70s and 80s. You even git propper food in real dishes with real cutlery vack then. Chicken flying to Vancouver and steak to Whitehorse.

@jimmyjoe6159 Жыл бұрын

Textbook takeoff roll in a combi! 😂

@davidkavanagh189 Жыл бұрын

Summer temperature and short runway. Rotate looked fine to me.

@williamkinney427 4 ай бұрын

Wow.....Great Slave Lake is very large.....

@rodmanser7573 Жыл бұрын

ahh the baby 8's sound of little fan blades beating in the tubes. As to why still flying, Canada allows the stage 3 noise in remote locations and these airframes were under utilized early in life so they haven't reached their 75,000 hour limits yet?

@ThatstaticEKHatch Ай бұрын

Oh wow

@delten-eleven1910 3 жыл бұрын

It seems North of the border is where classic airliners don't quite retire; look a Lockheed Electra too.

@Jesuscatshockey 5 ай бұрын

Always wanted a Canadian North Curiously Canadian souvenir. Then they became seriously northern.

@team_exotic01. 2 жыл бұрын

This maybe be an over full plane.

@ThePowerofJames 3 жыл бұрын

I would like more info on the fact there is a Raptor working the field??! 1:27

@Aradfathi89 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like folker 100❤

@waitotong9590 2 жыл бұрын

Was it normal in Canada that the pilot would introduce the onboard meal of the flight?

@probablyjay3449 2 жыл бұрын

now I'm not sure, but does it sound like a stick shaker on 6:22? Can you hear it from the cabin? Or does 737 have a stick shaker at all?

@darrelllee2107 3 жыл бұрын

The 200s are pretty much the workhorses of the north because they can actually use the gravel and rugged runways.

@nickschmitz841 3 жыл бұрын

Nice CF Globemaster as well. I am curious, what is that probe for on the engine inlet ?

@williamrussell2542 3 жыл бұрын

It’s what’s called a gravel kit and it means it helps from rocks dirt etc from getting in the engine

@versasys 3 жыл бұрын

Vortex disapator, it is used for gravel runway operations, it ejects engine bleed air to disrupt any vortex generated by the engine intake that could suck in debris

@wozja 3 жыл бұрын

This a recent flight ? Canadian North still operate they’re 200’s?? This reminds me of Canadian airlines North in the 90’s and NWT air had all 200’s in Yellowknife

@aaronb2955 3 жыл бұрын

they said it was filmed in july 2019

@Jesuscatshockey 5 ай бұрын

CP Air 737-100 Abbotsford to Calgary.

@user-wh7fr5in4k 2 жыл бұрын

Best and fastest model B 737-100 737-200

@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION 3 жыл бұрын

i really wanna go to yellowknife!

@shawnburt5653 3 жыл бұрын

Dont come up when its -63,but the summers are awsome

@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION 3 жыл бұрын

@@shawnburt5653 ok!

@michaell.8938 2 жыл бұрын

What's that bar thing under the engine?

@Flyby-1000 3 жыл бұрын

Oh the sound of that good ol' JT8D-15 just screamin' away..........at idle....🤣... I DO NOT miss working on those old engines...The wire harnesses on those things were alway soaked in engine oil... If it wasn't leaking oil, that means it was out of oil...😂... JT8D's made more noise than they did power... I have a few pieces of turbine blades that were blown out the back end of one motor that suffered a compressor stall during maintenance engine run ups... they make good paper weights for my paperwork and great conversation starters... Damn 737-200's couldn't move out of there own way when the plane was loaded, but took off like a rocket empty (two pilots, two mechs, one insp) for test flights... Man those test flights were awesome!!!

@viscount757 3 жыл бұрын

C-GOPW uses the more powerful JT8D-17, not the -15.

@Flyby-1000 3 жыл бұрын

@@viscount757 "more powerful" technically you are correct, but really... should say a just a slight bit more powerful... -15's run Max Thrust @ 15,550 lbf. -17's run Max Thrust between 16,000-16,400 lbf. Either way, JT8D's still make more noise than power...🤣

@viscount757 3 жыл бұрын

@@Flyby-1000 Many early model 737-200s with the lowest thrust JT8Ds regularly operated off 5,000 foot runways in Canada.

@Flyby-1000 3 жыл бұрын

@@viscount757 Ok..........good to know...

@versasys 3 жыл бұрын

@@viscount757 Nordair used to fly them in/out of runways made on frozen lakes