Laurence Fox told to pay £180,000 in libel damages

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14 күн бұрын

Laurence Fox has been ordered to pay £90,000 in damages each to two people he referred to as "paedophiles".
The actor-turned-politician from the UK lost a High Court libel case with Simon Blake, a former trustee for charity Stonewall, and drag artist Crystal.
The remarks on X, formerly Twitter, came in an exchange about a UK supermarket Sainsbury's marking Black History Month.
Mrs Justice Collins Rice said the comments were "gross, groundless and indefensible".
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@e.barratt6961 13 күн бұрын

I mean, maybe don’t slander people is the strategy here. No sympathy for him, what a silly move

@Mrratongthailand 12 күн бұрын

Gay

@curiositycloset2359 12 күн бұрын

He was slandered first. That's the point

@philsonhtc2871 12 күн бұрын

Get in the hole

@gio-oz8gf 12 күн бұрын

@@Mrratongthailand Your username tells anyone all they need to know about you.

@kyleklmondwa9042 12 күн бұрын

Only ELON MUSK is allowed to publicly slander people as Pedophiles and get away with it!

@John-rr9nq 11 күн бұрын

What a joke Give them nothing

@Anne--Marie 13 күн бұрын

Calling people the worst kind of criminal without proof is horrible.

@codswallop164 13 күн бұрын

@Anne--Marie Can I put make up on and dance provocatively in the presence of you're children???

@Randomstuffs261 13 күн бұрын

@@codswallop164 No, what a strange thing to do. Codswallop you have a strange mind. Thankfully you're commenting on a story where nothing like that happened and Laurence Fox, like you, made up a similar lie about someone and is paying the price.

@stevemcnicholas2748 13 күн бұрын

Like all female pop singers?

@codswallop164 13 күн бұрын

@Randomstuffs261 I'll bet a month salary you'd be arrested if the cops checked you're hard drive. To defend deviants is the be a deviant.

@Randomstuffs261 13 күн бұрын

@@codswallop164 The point is. The person in question DIDNT do what you or Laurence accused them of. I'm against doing that sort of thing infront of children too. Maybe you should stop projecting your own indecent interests onto others and try and understand other people's points instead. There's a reason Laurence now has to pay a small fortune for lying. Weird that you would also spread that same lie despite it being proven wrong. Also it's "your" ... not "you're" ... "Dance in front of you are children" doesn't make sense codswallop

@FatNorthernBigot 13 күн бұрын

I was surprised at the amount in damages, but then I read what Lawrence said. Those kind of slurs do not fly on any side of the political spectrum.

@GIBBO4182 13 күн бұрын

I have to completely agree, there is a line, and it was definitely crossed

@codswallop164 13 күн бұрын

So you think men carrying out sexual fetishes in front of children is completely normal???

@andymac7584 13 күн бұрын

But its fair to call everyone who thinks people can't change sex nazis

@RogerMellie-yk3gw 13 күн бұрын

What did he say specifically?

@kanedNunable 13 күн бұрын

@@andymac7584 he literally slandered a person. right wingers cant do analogies can they? dipshit

@user-vx9ur4tm2d 12 күн бұрын

I don't begin to understand who Laurence Fox thinks he is? I used to enjoy him as an actor on Inspector Lewis but over the past few years I have lost all respect for him really. And who does he think he is, to say such hateful things about individuals and groups. What happened to a little kindness? cheers

@splinterbyrd 10 күн бұрын

He may look good on telly, but then he's pretending to be someone else. Not a nice man

@1000CC_Mandra 12 күн бұрын

We need more of this, there is too much lies and fake news on Social media. People need to be held to account for what they say.

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

Maybe we should start by requiring a threshold of evidence, below which anyone making unsubstantiated accusations of Racism gets a £90,000 fine for defamation?

@fussiesthydra9216 3 сағат бұрын

Where's Laurences Money for being called a Racist then?

@GIBBO4182 13 күн бұрын

They are allowed to be as weird as they like, you can’t go around calling people a p-dough without any repercussions

@lylecoglianese1645 13 күн бұрын

@GIBB04182, so it quite FINE with BEING and DOING - just not SAYING?? Odd!! Next - penalties for what one is accused of THINKING!! 🤔 😡 🤪

@redsable6119 13 күн бұрын

@@lylecoglianese1645 Proof????

@GIBBO4182 13 күн бұрын

@@lylecoglianese1645he called him a p-dough because he’s a drag Queen, context. Watch the video, and use your brain…you wouldn’t need to ask a stupid question then

@codswallop164 13 күн бұрын

@GIBBO4182 Do you think it's ok for men to act out their fetish Infront of children???

@GIBBO4182 13 күн бұрын

@@lylecoglianese1645keeps deleting my replies…he called him a p-dough because he’s a drag queen, no other reason. Watch the video, then you’d have some context for the comment

@HULLGRAFFITI 13 күн бұрын

Freedom of speech is free but lies can be very expensive.... Classic bully

@dolceanstar 13 күн бұрын

Wouldn't it be absolute perfection if, at appeal, the original fines were found to be too lenient and . . . . . doubled!!!

@DeadDave 13 күн бұрын

For all that private education he sure is lacking in the intellect department!

@MJ-qb5ph 12 күн бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking - maybe you can’t buy emotional intelligence

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

@@MJ-qb5ph If you see him chatting with Calvin Robinson on their KZfaq show he comes across as very emotionally intelligent. Actors mainly are as this is how they understand their roles.

@Sundown_Clown474 11 күн бұрын

He got expelled for bullying, and no university would take him. He's been a failure his whole life, kept afloat by a rich family.

@ccccarriemchardy9216 12 күн бұрын

Speech is free, lies you have to pay for.

@curiositycloset2359 12 күн бұрын

They called him a racist

@user-jv9dd2fp1c 12 күн бұрын

Fox is such a whining snowflake.

@Bungle-UK 13 күн бұрын

Fox’s language was crass. Would have been much better to call them idiots and point out the foolishness of their opinions.

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

Which would be most ironic coming from Fox.

@Mizzkan 13 күн бұрын

@@Steven-vo4eeBut still true

@claudiaxander 13 күн бұрын

If I called you a p_doh to my half million followers online, would you just say " how crass" !?! What would you boss and community think?

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

@@Mizzkan The glass houses aphorism come to mind.

@Mizzkan 13 күн бұрын

@@Steven-vo4ee Now you’re getting it. 👍Took you a while

@ABC1701A 13 күн бұрын

Yon bloke is a 'drag artist' if I read the interview correctly (meaning he dresses as a woman for his act, just like Danny la Rue did in fact, or the one who died recently, Paul O'Grady I think, or the Aussie Les Humphries/Dame Edna Everage) and I gather that according to Lawrence Fox that automatically means he is a pea-dough-file. Does that mean Danny la Rue was as well, or Les Humphries, how about all those dames in panto or even Julie Andrews - she dressed as a young boy (Peter Pan) in panto FOR CHILDREN so surely she definitely counts. After all, they all dress as male or female despite being female or male and I'm assuming that is his main objection.

@ScottishAtheist 11 күн бұрын

“I totally disagree with that because the correct term is actually hebephile“. He later clarified.

@explorer47422 13 күн бұрын

Very well spoken and informed with a logical sound argument, judge made the right decision and it's a win for common sense - you can't just go around accusing people of doing dangerous things out of pure malice and bigotry without consequence.

@rescyn1190 13 күн бұрын

So you agree they were also wrong to accuse Fox of being a racist and should face consequences then?

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

@@rescyn1190Fox is welcome to bring defamation proceedings against them, my money is on him not.

@rescyn1190 13 күн бұрын

@@Steven-vo4ee "However, the judge did not make a ruling on whether describing Mr Fox as "a racist" was "substantially true", after finding the three tweets in his counter-claim were unlikely to cause serious harm to his reputation." My money isn't on him either with judges saying being labelled a racist doesn't cause reputational harm... despite all the reputational harm it's done to him since he was falsely labelled on after Question Time.

@morgenmuffel5747 13 күн бұрын

@@rescyn1190Only problem with your little theory is that Fox made numerous public statements that many reasonable people consider to be demonstrative of racism. Zero evidence was produced by Fox to support the claims he made against the other parties. There are reasons he lost the case and why he will lose his appeal

@rescyn1190 13 күн бұрын

@@morgenmuffel5747 'Only problem with your little theory is that Fox made numerous public statements that many reasonable people consider to be demonstrative of racism' Excellent... can you provide 3 of them please?

@lliamjurdom9505 13 күн бұрын

awarded 90 thousand pounds ... legal bill 240 thousand pounds ... (probably)

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

Fox will be rattling his begging bowl for quite some time!

@Weesperbuurt 13 күн бұрын

The lawyers need time to earn way too much money. The victim is so articulate and well spoken.

@sleepyjoe7843 12 күн бұрын

Yes articulate and well spoken does not mean smart. Elon Musk for example is neither of them.

@Toodyslexicforyou 10 күн бұрын

@@sleepyjoe7843yes he is a lacking smarts and lacking worlds innit. What your point????

@MB-vu3ow 8 күн бұрын

Nuts

@Harlock2day 13 күн бұрын

what does it mean "amplified free speech" Bbc ?

@fintanbeirne7261 13 күн бұрын

“Amplified free speech” was said by the judge. It refers to the sizeable platform Mr Fox holds due to his being a public figure. It’s important on libel cases to know the scale of the publication as this will usually help determine the amount of compensation to be paid.

@Harlock2day 13 күн бұрын

@@fintanbeirne7261 good point, one shouldn't accuse publicly without proof.

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

@@Harlock2day I totally agree with you. Im pretty sure that this is actually the point (not reported) that Fox was trying to illustrate by what he said. I am interested to know if you think this also applies when people are called 'racist'? This is something that when it happens most commonly sees people lose their career (as has happened to Lawrence Fox).

@VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke 9 күн бұрын

it's what some mugs pay the BBC for

@1TimBaugh 13 күн бұрын

He say's he will appeal, I can't see how!!

@donnaspeer2760 12 күн бұрын

He was called a racist first.

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

@@donnaspeer2760 Seems like a 2 tier justice system, where defendants are punished or not dependant on their political opinions and those of the judge....and they probably claim this is defence against Fascism?

@polygonalmasonary 13 күн бұрын

Accountability is a great thing. Words of unfounded hate have consequences in the UK and it’s great to see courts deliver this judgement against a really vile hateful person. 🇬🇧👍🌈♥️🙏

@Mrratongthailand 13 күн бұрын

That things not getting a cent

@titteryenot4524 13 күн бұрын

@@Mrratongthailand*thing’s *.

@polygonalmasonary 13 күн бұрын

Calling another human being a ‘thing’ says significantly more about your humanity than it does theirs. ♥️🌈🇬🇧🙏

@dsamh 13 күн бұрын

DIAF

@andymac7584 13 күн бұрын

@@polygonalmasonary over it already.

@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 13 күн бұрын

The problem with Laurence Fox is that he's motivated by anger. Not positivity. We don't want angry politicians.

@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 13 күн бұрын

@JohnAnders-fs5xy The fact he seems to attract so many antivaxxers says everything you need to know

@curiositycloset2359 12 күн бұрын

@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 my my, o well. Nice knowing you

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

@gio-oz8gf 12 күн бұрын

Laurence Fox isn't a politician, he's a failed actor turned grifter.

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@gio-oz8gf In what way did he fail at acting?

@johndyer23 6 күн бұрын

I'd still keep a close eye on him.

@buriedrythmes9179 12 күн бұрын

Pretend actor and political what?😂😅 sorry for the parents who have to pay.

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

Fox doesn’t have the cash, he’ll have to get out the begging bowl.

@Diseased_Mr_T 13 күн бұрын

Nah, he can pay it with all the proceeds of his album 😂

@mari5london 13 күн бұрын

Or his dad perhaps

@CHMichael 13 күн бұрын

...... or just not pay.

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

@@CHMichael Unfortunately for Fox, that's not an option.

@canny_linguist 13 күн бұрын

I hear Laurence Fox is planning to sue Laurence Fox for causing him reputational harm 😂

@hmq9052 13 күн бұрын

Good. Absolute prat.

@cockneycharm3970 13 күн бұрын

Oh dear. Freedom of speech is a laugh

@hmq9052 13 күн бұрын

@@cockneycharm3970 You can't go around accusing people of being pedophiles. Expect to be sued

@ABC1701A 13 күн бұрын

@@cockneycharm3970 Difference between freedom of speech - allowing you to voice an opinion -and criminal slander (claiming people are seriously dangerous/offensive criminals WITHOUT proof but they must be because I think they are). His issue was the latter, not the former. And I'm willing to wager that if someone said exactly the same thing about him then he'd be screaming to the courts as well

@deeliciousplum 12 күн бұрын

Heartening news as any deterrent which helps to lessen harmful and deceptive attacks against members of the lgbtq2+ communities is always welcome. 🌸

@garylovell6017 13 күн бұрын

Cough up Foxy boy.

@Snoopyzell 12 күн бұрын

Very clear articulate. Loved the phrase "May have freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences. "

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

Do you think that the preceding accusations of racism should need to be substantiated?

@lukemorgan6166 10 күн бұрын

Then it's not freedom of speech

@grahamturner1290 13 күн бұрын

And foxes are supposed to be clever. 😂😂😂

@judykinsman3258 12 күн бұрын

Not this Fox. He’s just mean!

@grahamturner1290 12 күн бұрын

@@judykinsman3258 too true.

@natalid7762 13 күн бұрын

So why did BBC only interview this guy? Where’s Lawrence’s side of the story?

@Anne--Marie 13 күн бұрын

Because they don't usually interview the lisers

@codswallop164 13 күн бұрын

@natalid7762 Because Lawrence would explain the context and everyone would get the reality of these men acting out what the majority see as a fetish in the company of children.

@aethellstan 13 күн бұрын

fox's side of the story is quite clear as he said what he said live on air on television. we have slander and libel laws in this country for a reason. he couldn't prove that the two people were paedophiles even though he was accusing them of such and therefore he lost. as a certain russian meerkat said "simples".

@markphc99 13 күн бұрын

In case he repeated the allegations on live Tv

@aethellstan 13 күн бұрын

@@codswallop164 absolute rubbish. it was proven in a court of law that he made up the insult and it's based on zero evidence.

@weerobot 13 күн бұрын

Justice...

@stanthemafia 12 күн бұрын

I like Laurence Fox as much as a hole in the head

@ChrisMinusHumour 13 күн бұрын

Work Crystal 🤣

@Dogboy73 13 күн бұрын

Good news. Fox is a pillock.

@DragonHeart613 13 күн бұрын

Laurence Fox? Didn't he play one of the main characters in the TV series Inspector Lewis?

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

@@DragonHeart613 Yes, his acting career didn’t work out too well for him, so he turned to grifting.

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@Steven-vo4ee He was cancelled because he didn't agree with certain current day narratives.

@gio-oz8gf 12 күн бұрын

He wasn't cancelled, he was made to pay damages to people he libelled. He isn't the victim so stop claiming that he is. Cancelled my arse.

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@gio-oz8gf He was cancelled after QT. Yes, you are an arse.

@dub604 12 күн бұрын

Fox thinks he will be appealing? On the contrary, there's nothing appealing about him. 😂😂😂

@sydclark5581 13 күн бұрын

Not sure they suffered 90k's worth of damages because of Mr Fox and his idiotic statement, but its good they got justice 👍

@julianshepherd2038 13 күн бұрын

Excellent

@TC8787-yq7og 12 күн бұрын

Sensational - Fox is such a tragic figure

@davidhoward4715 12 күн бұрын

Tragic and destructive, not just to himself but to others.

@titteryenot4524 9 күн бұрын

Source: “trust me, bro”.

@TC8787-yq7og 9 күн бұрын

@@titteryenot4524 his perennial divorced Dad energy and his ability to still fail despite having white nepotism privilege by the truckload is what makes him so tragic.

@titteryenot4524 9 күн бұрын

@@TC8787-yq7og Source: “trust me, bro.”

@VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke 9 күн бұрын

Meanwhile real pâedöphîles walk free

@aronker82 3 күн бұрын

BBC - Britain's Biggest Comedy. Laurence Fox - One of the few voices of reason that coming out of your dying country.

@lukemorgan6166 10 күн бұрын

Guess time will tell

@liyanam7888 13 күн бұрын

Peace ....

@jadduck 12 күн бұрын

Crystal on global all stars WHEN???? baby that BUDGET tho

@andyaim4764 12 күн бұрын

Glad he’s had to pay 😊

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

Live on Talk TV Nicola Thorp said that some right wing thugs were attacking the cenotaph. I've yet to see any such video anywhere.

@donnaspeer2760 12 күн бұрын

You actually watch Nicola Thorp.

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@donnaspeer2760 Not on purpose. I was channel hopping. I think she's a lying bint.

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@donnaspeer2760 I've replied once to you already, but saying I channel hopped is now against the KZfaq fascists petty rules.

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

No context and no mention of what was said to Fox first.

@davidhoward4715 12 күн бұрын

You didn't bother to watch or listen to the video, did you?

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

@@davidhoward4715 The trouble with the video is that omits details. It's almost like you believe everything the BBC tells you.

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

@@davidhoward4715 The video omits the whole context of this dispute and the point of reciprocal responsibility that Fox was making. It's verging on propaganda.

@Eltoca21 12 күн бұрын

Much too small a fine especially considering what he called him.

@eattherich9215 12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 Rent a gob has found out that speech has consequences.

@JacobMoretti-NotABot 13 күн бұрын

man Crystal is super articulate

@jenmaggio7190 13 күн бұрын

The whole point of calling someone a pedophile is to damage their reputation!

@mariannehavisham8323 13 күн бұрын

Or because they are one?

@beckibish829 13 күн бұрын

Keep fighting Crystal! You are an amazing artist and activist!

@Bungle-UK 13 күн бұрын

Define ‘amazing’ 🤣

@beckibish829 13 күн бұрын

@@Bungle-UK the art of drag in general is amazing and fascinating to me. What I have seen of Crystal has impressed me; they are a stand out with their art and uniqueness. There is something gorgeously androgynous about them and thought provoking with the way theyplay with gender idealogy.

@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb 13 күн бұрын

@@Bungle-UK Deranged!

@beckibish829 13 күн бұрын

@@AndrewWilliams-ry6tb I hope you're joking and not being a close minded jerk

@Bungle-UK 13 күн бұрын

@@beckibish829 no, drag is men mocking what it means to be a woman. It’s no different to blackface.

@dd07871 13 күн бұрын

Crystal meth.

@claudiaxander 13 күн бұрын

Day if the Jackass! Result!❤

@BobPsomiadis 13 күн бұрын

Only .??? That won't shut his mouth from making inflammatory comments .

@andymac7584 13 күн бұрын

Ask him where all the degeneracy started from and who is pushing it and he'll quickly go quiet though. If he pays his bill it will be no doubt in shekels.

@waynewal971 13 күн бұрын

Fox obviously wrestling with his own sexuality in some way!

@MJ-qb5ph 12 күн бұрын

A distinct possibility. Another is that he is a narcisst

@waynewal971 11 күн бұрын

@@MJ-qb5ph oh he is definitely a narcissist I took that for granted

@BabyBane100 13 күн бұрын

You can feel the BBC squealing with delight over this

@Kwippy 13 күн бұрын

You can also hear the Brexit voting neonazis screaming with rage over this.

@claudiaxander 13 күн бұрын

Along with every other sane human being...

@markmonaghan2309 13 күн бұрын

Yes , justice, fantastic thanks for making Britain Great.

@aubreydavis8822 13 күн бұрын

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

@duncandisorderly6562 12 күн бұрын

Crystal balls

@davidsaviano9012 13 күн бұрын

Vindicated? Not really. Still a fruit loop.

@Lommy9999 13 күн бұрын

You are embarrassing.

@chelloandra 13 күн бұрын

Political activist 😂😂😂

@justonemorething23 13 күн бұрын

Justice 4 grenfell 7 years on still no justice

@paullambert9720 12 күн бұрын

Glad they got justice :)

@msswart9119 12 күн бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤

@Harlock2day 13 күн бұрын

Obviously the out of focus background is a nursery. 😂

@mainStream-user 13 күн бұрын

Does that get you off?

@Harlock2day 13 күн бұрын

@@mainStream-user do you have a brain ?

@citizensnid3490 13 күн бұрын

Lololololol burdoog what rich people do

@Word1373 13 күн бұрын

in Scotland were an Irish town were not about this homosexual group

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

That makes sense…. /s

@PaulThatcher-iu5in 13 күн бұрын

Y'know how your tag is 'word', right? Try looking up how these things called 'words' can be used together to form sentences with meaning...

@danarcher9012 12 күн бұрын

Is this surrealist poetry?

@JackpotFernandez 13 күн бұрын

Ooooo look it's Katy Perry in blonde. 😂

@TheWorldisSoDivided 13 күн бұрын

You can’t wear black face but you can wear a woman’s face. Some people don’t understand why someone would be an exaggeration of a woman part time, skimpy clothing, innuendos, exaggerated movements, sexual language etc

@canny_linguist 13 күн бұрын

Comparing drag to blackface is a monumentally stupid thing to do

@SenorSol 13 күн бұрын

But that's still not the same as being a paedophile. Dressing up as a women isn't a criminal offence, sexually molesting children is. Why are you so moronic that you can't work out that difference????

@TheWorldisSoDivided 13 күн бұрын

@@canny_linguist to you. You can’t change how other people feel.

@canny_linguist 13 күн бұрын

@@TheWorldisSoDivided No I can't. But I can mock and ridicule you

@TheWorldisSoDivided 13 күн бұрын

@@canny_linguist that’s what you’re good for

@dwoehrma 12 күн бұрын

Bravo

@ivanconnolly7332 12 күн бұрын

Clearly miscast as polyglot cop .

@heytharrkrista 12 күн бұрын

Crystal getting that coin (rightfully so)

@siddlodha5755 13 күн бұрын

😮tsup

@curiositycloset2359 12 күн бұрын

Ill just say, looking at this fella, i can see what they mean

@jadduck 12 күн бұрын

PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SLAY

@jimcourt9164 12 күн бұрын

The courts have lost their minds

@mcjs8640 12 күн бұрын

Nope.

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

Personal politics of this judge. She needs a good talking to by her superiors.

@TomNook. 12 күн бұрын

LOL

@ryarbrough1000 13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@kanedNunable 13 күн бұрын

hahahahahahahaha.

@distractionb 12 күн бұрын

Actor?

@lilliankeane5731 13 күн бұрын

Ha ha, 😂

@davidjupp961 13 күн бұрын

Ha bloody ha

@joelboy19 13 күн бұрын

ahem. hahahahahahahahahaha

@jimcourt9164 13 күн бұрын

Ridiculous ..

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

If you don’t wish to face the consequences, don’t libel people.

@duckofdeath3266 13 күн бұрын

@@Steven-vo4ee Telling stupid people, like Jim, to not be stupid doesn't have any effect.

@danielqmul 13 күн бұрын

I think it’s justified because Lawrence Fox does have a fair amount of followers and him accusing people of being peadophiles is very dangerous.

@davidmurrell5143 13 күн бұрын

I agree, completely ridiculous, but Mr Fox keeps thinking that he is a politician or statesman. He's as much a politician as he is a musician. You did mean Loser libelling someone, doubling down, not apologising, using racist language in a trial where he claimed he shouldn't be called a racist, is ridiculous, right?

@rescyn1190 13 күн бұрын

They called him a racist, (a claim without evidence), so he called them P's in return (which you know why if you follow the Drag Queen Story Hour crowd... but also a claim without evidence) in a hyperbolic retort. I don't understand how people don't understand that (I think they do but choose not to) and I don't understand how one can be punishable but not the other. Frankly, I'd rather we have less criminalising of speech all around, but on principle, I don't understand this decision at all.

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

Fox is welcome to sue them for libel, my money is on him not.

@Diseased_Mr_T 13 күн бұрын

The legal point is that you can't defame someone who, by their words and actions, has already defamed themselves. In layman's terms, the judge decided that, based on things he's said and done, Laurence Fox is clearly shown himself to be a racist, and therefore cannot be defamed by being called one. He's a racist, simple 👍

@lilliankeane5731 13 күн бұрын

The thumbnail says “libel” He must have written it as ‘libel’ is written. Slander is spoken. But I noticed the reporter said it was on “social media” i would assumed that was ‘spoken ‘ ? Maybe I got it wrong?

@rescyn1190 13 күн бұрын

@@Diseased_Mr_T Do you hear yourself? That's not how the law works at all. Provide some evidence please. A shred will do. And I remind you, his comments were over the fact Sainsbury's set up black only spaces for employees to get away from white people...

@kanedNunable 13 күн бұрын

"I don't understand this decision at all" thats because you are an imbecile.

@pinkpanther7030 11 күн бұрын

Laurence Fox is a joke😁

@splinterbyrd 10 күн бұрын

Except that he isn't funny

@captainbuggernut9565 13 күн бұрын

Given what he said is used regularly these days as a term of abuse, I was surprised at the damages. I wonder if he will appeal.

@mainStream-user 13 күн бұрын

Maybe there's something wrong with using that slur then?

@elonthun8012 13 күн бұрын

Looool the clowns 🤡 are winning

@timstapleman 11 күн бұрын

The BBC has been more than happy to give Lawrence Fox a platform in the past helping to build his image.

@aheadachewithpictures 13 күн бұрын

bozo

@garethjones2746 13 күн бұрын

He started off with a good point on question time but damn has he got everything else so wrong since. He should have just kept to acting. Can't go round saying things like this.

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

After that incident he was effectively 'cancelled' and so has been unable to act. His career was ended by that totally unsubstantiated accusation, hence this case where he tried to make others aware of the consequences that the same baseless accusations might have on them. If you look into this case you realise that the validation of accusations of 'Racism' against Fox all go back to that appearance on Question Time. Seems like you would agree that is unfair?

@stringer-ik1pc 13 күн бұрын

Another twisted America over here peddling filth.

@jimmeltonbradley1497 12 күн бұрын

But Fox is British. Are you confused?

@stringer-ik1pc 12 күн бұрын

@@jimmeltonbradley1497 no but you are,especially about your sexuality. Honey. 🪱

@user-fo9bv2mm1g 12 күн бұрын

I thought it was Canadian?

@canny_linguist 12 күн бұрын

@@stringer-ik1pcYou seem to be confused about other people's sexuality

@lorddavidlawrence 12 күн бұрын

Don't get too excited. Ordinary UK citizens (the vast majority) would get nothing if they were defamed in the same way.

@DaboooogA 13 күн бұрын

Who actually agrees with libel laws?

@xensonar9652 13 күн бұрын

I do.

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

Such legislation has withstood 700 years on the English statute book, I’m quite certain it can withstand your disagreement.

@CarlWicker 13 күн бұрын

Seem fair enough to me

@LiberalsTakingLs 13 күн бұрын

⁠@@Steven-vo4eeEnglish libel laws are some of the most draconian compared to American libel laws. Shifting the burden of proof is ridiculous.

@Steven-vo4ee 13 күн бұрын

@@LiberalsTakingLs Thankfully the UK isn't like the US in most respects, the latter takes some of its freedoms to the nth degree with disastrous consequences.

@jamess4869 12 күн бұрын

Werdo

@gmanette188 12 күн бұрын

Isn't Fox homosexual?

@paulemmerson3196 13 күн бұрын

If it was me no way nein going to happen do not do it laurance fox and refuse to apologise same as Lee Anderson

@PaulThatcher-iu5in 13 күн бұрын

Once you have grasped the essentials of the English language, especially punctuation, try reading this message: I don't think 2 of the UK's leading fascists really need the support of semi-literate bully-worshippers..

@Word1373 13 күн бұрын

doctor zelensky is the problem

@typetwo 12 күн бұрын

We should ALL be concerned as to why our national broadcaster covers this story and excludes the whole context. Fox was responding to the slur of being labelled 'racist' by these people by replying with what he felt was an equally damaging slur. Is this journalistic ineptitude or political bias?