Andretti Cadillac's F1 stalemate gets EVEN WORSE

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2 ай бұрын

Since F1 has rejected Andretti Global, the US government has now stepped in to defend the American team...uh oh.
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@LawVS Ай бұрын

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@democracysmith6060 Ай бұрын

F1 should've known better, lobbying is the oldest trick in the book in the States

@democracysmith6060 Ай бұрын

Gives me the Ferrari Vs Ford vibe

@kalaalbright Ай бұрын

Hey u gotta do what u gotta do. Good for andretti, he's proving he's got the balls to fight this fight any way he has to. And Americans are always down for a good fight as evidenced by the wars we beat you in and then saved your British butts in. So good for him and I've got nothing but respect for andretti. Gotta drive whatever it takes

@toojack9346 Ай бұрын

Why would we let F1 makes millions off the American fan base, and let all the European car manufactures make billions in our country, then have them turn around and spit in the face of our largest auto manufacturer and America's most prized racing family? I can't help but feel the F1 grid and European manufacturers are a bit scared of American race engineering on the track and in market share lol. Thou doth protest too much.

@RowanMangion1976 Ай бұрын

@@toojack9346 if Andretti get in I would not be surprised if any American team eventually takes the 12 spot

@sinkrust1 Ай бұрын

As a lifelong citizen of the United States I must point out that this isn’t even remotely close to the most unimportant thing that my government has focused on.

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

So true, made me laugh out loud out of irony and frustration combined.

@FurryestX Ай бұрын

LoL😂

@AaronAL59 Ай бұрын

Yeah this is typical behavior lmao

@yanguskhan8513 Ай бұрын

as another american citizen, this sort of thing happens quite often when rich people dont get their way, they tie up tax payers money for their temper tantrums.

@ethanwatt-dz3xq Ай бұрын

This probably doesn’t even crack the top 10 least important things the government has fixated on.

@kiwi_commander Ай бұрын

Its not crazy that the US government is involved. Pretty sure GMs lobbyists have been working overtime on this.

@LawVS Ай бұрын

And they will continue to ramp things up.

@kiwi_commander Ай бұрын

@@LawVS absolutely, lots of money to be made and I am glad you made the point that Bernie would be more than willing to let Andretti race.

@cidklutch Ай бұрын

I just hope their leadership is more competent than our current potato-in-chief and can actually have some impact in helping Andretti get in

@Michael-pi8ps Ай бұрын

@@cidklutchyup you have no idea how the real world works

@stevebarcia5945 Ай бұрын

No this isn’t remotely close to the important things going, BUT I don’t trust politicians to fix anything that is genuinely important so it is good they are working on this .

@jeffbrown3009 Ай бұрын

"Sport is pretty big in America but surely public welfare and services should be a bigger priority" As an American, it's cute that you think that.

@awildhampter8570 Ай бұрын

RAHHH THE NFL🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🏈🏈🦅🦅🦅🦅

@Umar-gw6fy Ай бұрын

Thats why the US is in shambles

@AKACitizan101 Ай бұрын

Not in Andretti’s eyes.

@cheeseeygamer2997 Ай бұрын

@@AKACitizan101What?

@XA351GT Ай бұрын

Nah the current administrations priority is sending our tax dollars everywhere but here.

@flamingburritto Ай бұрын

Haas existed for years racing like it's GP2. You can't tell me they're suddenly concerned about a team being competitive 😂

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

Nobody is afraid of Andretti being competitive cos all teams know how much research and development with the best engineers it takes to get a competitive car…it takes years.. Only US fans think it’s a spec series like Indycar and expect Andretti to be competitive 😂

@gianni_schicchi Ай бұрын

@@Redlingsteinwhat a daftly ignorant take.

@pain4066 Ай бұрын

@@Redlingstein bro i've seen you hate on andretti on every single co,ment reply in every video about andretti i've ever seen how do you have that much hate against a team not even in f1 yet

@chemandol8554 Ай бұрын

@@pain4066and they aren’t even guaranteed to be in f1 😂 such a strangely passionate hate for a nonexistent team

@benroberts17 Ай бұрын

@Redlingstein have you never seen how mercedes got soo competive so fast they started designing that car in 08 and managed to win a world championship in less then 4 years if they get it right with the new regulations they could easily be in the midfield especially if there's no cost cap if they aren't a team yet

@brianhenderson6294 Ай бұрын

"sorry if I'm demeaning your culture..." No, you're good. That was about right.

@DriverScottieC Ай бұрын

@@justinthaim8879More than you can imagine. And none of them like each other

@brandonhoffman4712 Ай бұрын

Culture, where? I'll smite that with a gender study...

@aaronmachado13 Ай бұрын

I’m American and this situation makes me laugh cause wasn’t Haas in trouble for sanctions? That said Andretti itself was getting bullied to begin with cause the whole project. “ you need to update your facility” than Andretti built two state of the art facilities one in the motorsport valley of open wheel racing in USA and the other is at THE motorsport valley of the UK .” You don’t bring a manufacturer” than brings in GM as a technical partnership. “ they’re a glorified sponsor, we need you to build a in house engine rather than rebadging a Renault PU as Cadillac “ than they announce to join Audi in 2026 as an actual PU manufacturer. “ you don’t even have a car designed “ than release a design and promise to build it by the end of this year. It’s not even moving the goal post at this point, it’s throwing the goal post out at the parking lot.

@Jeffacakes21 Ай бұрын

Cant believe A-Level history and knowing about the Sherman Anti-Trust act would help me understand a LawVS video but here we are

@diegolopezzz18 Ай бұрын

Most Americans aren’t even aware of the existence of the Sherman Anti-trust act lol

@moderndiscourse Ай бұрын

*LawVS:* “Given what’s going on in the world, surely there’s more pressing matters for the United States Congress to deal with, than allowing a team to go racing…” *AMERICA:* “HA! Actually, no. That’s where you’re very wrong. The United States government would rather do literally ANYTHING than focus on whats actually important. This is a perfect issue for us to tackle”

@NivekTheTruth Ай бұрын

Nailed it.

@hugmynutus Ай бұрын

100% addressing a real issue with real stakes put their political career on the line. Advocating for an american racing legend & american industry is an easy PR win.

@crunks420 Ай бұрын

MTG will be screaming about the "uni-party" globalists, and suddenly the hard right wingers will be anti-F1.

@herbertkraft7379 Ай бұрын

True that. And if they are lucky they can act like they started another invasion and defeated the evil guys. (THIS IS A JOKE BTW !!!!)

@joehynes2964 Ай бұрын

Impossibly true. Congress is pathetic and worthless.

@11bravocrunchie22 Ай бұрын

It wasnt all that many years ago when the US federal government was the majority shareholder of GM, so the federal govt does indeed have an interest in this matter.

@admechskitarii6967 Ай бұрын

Ehhh that was moreso a temporary measure as a result of the recession, but I get your point

@tomwitte6369 Ай бұрын

@windrose5988 GM is also a significant defense contractor and as a very major manufacturer, they would be an early shift to defense production at scale, should it, hopefully never, be needed. So yes, the GM - Gov't relationship is deep. Liberty Media is listening to the wrong whisperers on this one. Now, how to end this so everyone is a winner, without looking bad? Clock is ticking F1.

@BSA_Airgunning Ай бұрын

Can we please swap the Miami gp for Andretti?

@y_fam_goeglyd Ай бұрын

Oh please...!

@michaelskoomamacher5652 Ай бұрын

God I hope so 😅

@X-Warrior.1119 Ай бұрын

It won't be Easy... But I get it!

@yt.personal.identification Ай бұрын

Can GM offer to be a full factory team instead of a privateer?

@johnholzhey8149 Ай бұрын

@@yt.personal.identification F1 was started by "privateers". The only thing now is Mercedes, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Alpha Romeo, and Alpine, are the only "factory" teams. All others are basically privateers. There are only a few engine manufacturers. Red Bull builds there own since Honda pulled out. Ferrari, Mercedes, and Renault, build the others.

@privateer2584 Ай бұрын

American here. I am not surprised by this.

@Youngadvance Ай бұрын

American here, and I’m also not surprised 😅

@crystalvibes2122 Ай бұрын

Neither am I. Congress has a vested interest in protecting American automotive companies.

@enterprisethesylveon5787 Ай бұрын

For once I actually support this...

@Skull5617 Ай бұрын

Not only am I not surprised by it but honestly I was surprised to see the government doing something I support

@Lanselot2069 Ай бұрын

For me, and I think for andretti as well, it's less about being rejected, it's how dismissive and downright disrespectful they've been about the whole thing. "cartel-like" is sounding more and more accurate by the day.

@LawVS Ай бұрын

Definitely. This is all about their character being questioned.

@madmike-1693 Ай бұрын

maFIA

@andyp5362 Ай бұрын

Most consistent f1 youtuber

@J5L5M6 Ай бұрын

*Rab has entered the chat: "Alright, guys!"

@andrewholcomb7852 Ай бұрын

This channel and TacRabs channel are the most consistent for daily F1 news . Been watching both for a few years now

@gerardcrabb4556 Ай бұрын

Plot twist they sign Newey and he designs cars for all series they race and GM F1...

@jackdraper8603 Ай бұрын

If Newey really does have “garden leave” I wonder if this could be a serious opportunity

@HyperScorpio8688 Ай бұрын

@@jackdraper8603 Apparently he does not. Probably to "buy his silence" about the Horner scandal

@Dere-kf6np Ай бұрын

It`s exacly what I thought last Video, when the news came

@TomCousins-tx3kh Ай бұрын

Would love to see Andretti as the 11th team, as an American I and many others would become new F1 fans. If not, I say F1 can bugger off and should be banned from US or TAXED out US!

@Ticklestein Ай бұрын

Oh yes yes yes yes I would love this

@VictoryWorks Ай бұрын

F1: Hey USA, we want your money and we are going to give you 3 races a year now USA: Oh cool! Can we enter a competitive team with huge financial backing? F1: No! Don't be ridiculous!

@Kajico Ай бұрын

I think this is the biggest reason why Congress is getting involved. Also its one of many things on their agenda its not like it takes up their entire focus, we had a whole UFO investigation going on not so long ago in Congress. Congress is looking at this because you have a US Media owned organization that is enriching only themselves and foreign owned franchises and then being anti-competitive by restricting an American owned franchise from participating. Liberty Media owns Live Nation which is already facing antitrust scrutiny. This just seems to be a further extension to that.

@mrdavies09 Ай бұрын

F1: "No, we're playing with the toys. You can sit there and watch us play."

@scroopynooperz9051 Ай бұрын

That is the ridiculous part. GM backing alone should be enough to get Andretti through the door. What's the hold-up here? American money is good enough but American teams aren't? F1 administration becomes more and more ridiculous every year

@yt.personal.identification Ай бұрын

Privateers are not usually competitive. Strawman argument

@yt.personal.identification Ай бұрын

@@scroopynooperz9051Why didn't GM commit to a full works team? They likely would have been accepted. Why only a temporary engine supplier?

@hunter4760 Ай бұрын

The complaint about Andretti not being competitive is such BS considering that at least half the grid have no desire to compete for the championship

@spark6669 Ай бұрын

I’m kind of happy for US Congress for calling out FOM for trying to have their cake and eat it. I’m interested to see how the crowd reacts to this in Miami as it could be quite telling from the fans perspective

@LawVS Ай бұрын

Even if it doesn't go anywhere, it's sparked debate on news platforms that normally wouldn't cover F1 stuff.

@spark6669 Ай бұрын

⁠@LawVS Maybe there’s no such thing as bad publicity in FOM’s mind. Either way I can’t see this helping their cause if it’s gone this high up the pecking order. Great video once again as always!

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

Who the f cares abt that 😂

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

The fans don’t care…they simply want to watch the race

@b11recoillessrifle14 Ай бұрын

@@Redlingstein idk man, the interest that has sparked from this tells otherwise

@JahanSoundSystem Ай бұрын

As an American, man this is so funny. Even the part where you'd think we'd have more important things to focus on rather than sports. But i do want to say, in fairness, Its only 12 congressmen out of 500+ house reps and 100 senators. Its not like its on the entire governments focus.....yet

@LimitPro1 Ай бұрын

Key word is "YET" once they gain an interest it's over

@deanchur Ай бұрын

@@LimitPro1 Depends whether Andretti has the budget to "lobby" all of them

@kristoffermangila Ай бұрын

Its not just Andretti, GM is mobilizing their lobbyists in DC. I wouldn't be surprised if the inquiry would be spearheaded by the congressional and Senate delegations of Michigan and Indiana, the home states of GM and Andretti Global respectively.

@b1air77 Ай бұрын

@LawVS utterly flabbergasted by your upload schedule (and the high quality of content.) I raise a glass to Ladderman!!

@kennyj43 Ай бұрын

I am yet to see any good reason why Andretti should not be allowed to compete. They are a serious, well-resourced racing outfit and it would make a lot more sense to have them in than Haas and Alpine, for example. This private club nonsense needs to end. There is more than enough money to go round if that is what the other teams are worried about.

@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual Ай бұрын

it puts mercedes' interests at risk, in the auto market AND in racing.

@joanandreanoweyland57 Ай бұрын

Well, IT IS a private club. You can throw all the tantrums you want, but you don't choose to be inducted in a private club. The club does. Besides, didn't you Americans have your own series...? Didn't you at some point call it "World Series"?

@antwangordon8422 Ай бұрын

@@joanandreanoweyland57maybe you missed the point an American company owns the sport so they are bound by US law..👀

@treytonlandplayz3151 Ай бұрын

@@joanandreanoweyland57Did bro just compare MLB to F1… 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@mikespearwood3914 Ай бұрын

@@treytonlandplayz3151 They have a point though!

@sgz257 Ай бұрын

Here is how you fix this, have the FL and NV statehouses ban F1 from running the LV and Miami races until Andretti is in.

@rexthewolf3149 Ай бұрын

That would be stupid considering the money those state gets from those races.

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

Great!! Skip those races immediately and bring on Hockenheim and Sepang 💪💪👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

@extraordinary_ordinary Ай бұрын

@@rexthewolf3149 The Florida state government has been known to make some pretty boneheaded moves that hurt them economically.

@miguelcebriancarrasco1907 Ай бұрын

Ok, I support Andretti, but Ill give my life to avoid those shitshows

@sgz257 Ай бұрын

@@rexthewolf3149 Miami and LV make enough money... They most likely break even with the races after paying all of the city services.

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

Newsflash, Andretti is serious....get used to this. Would love to see them hire Newey and watch FOM heads explode....

@Limegreenedragon Ай бұрын

That'll be the biggest middle 🖕 to FOM for sure

@jamarij5814 Ай бұрын

That would be a baller ass move if they could get Newey.

@azizhusseinz2083 Ай бұрын

Technically Newey able to join Andretti in 2025 since they are not competing in Formula 1

@TGfoever Ай бұрын

F1 has botched this so badly they deserve everything they get at this point.

@safiullahkhan4912 Ай бұрын

US about to give Formula 1 and FIA some freedom🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

@kric3604 Ай бұрын

There's oil in those engines, it's time for some democracy !!🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

@temp5782 Ай бұрын

Imagine the doctors bills after a crash.

@y_fam_goeglyd Ай бұрын

I don't get why Liberty in particular are against it. They are trying to get a bigger foothold in the USA - Team Andretti should be given the red carpet treatment!

@wingracer1614 Ай бұрын

Because Liberty is just a yes man. The ones actually controlling the FOM are Vasseur, Wolf and Horner.

@Enis-fw7lv Ай бұрын

The only reason for this letter is because the congressmans have shares in GM.

@HotBoyCorey Ай бұрын

Might be true, but I'm actually happy about it in this case.

@graemewestbrook8826 Ай бұрын

So what

@aidanlawor5418 Ай бұрын

@@graemewestbrook8826 means congress see that they’ll get more money

@joehynes2964 Ай бұрын

I'd bet that it has much more to do with campaign contributions and lobbying myself.

@carlosaraujo59 Ай бұрын

So???……

@scroopynooperz9051 Ай бұрын

They want American fanbase support and all the big $ that comes with it... but they dont want a big, competent American team? What's the reason for this?

@connarcomstock161 Ай бұрын

OK SO The US Congress is involved for a couple of reasons, legitimate reasons, here. 1 - Fair access to markets. This looks *a lot* like F1 is denying Cadillac access because they're pissy about them selling Caddis again in Europe and teams like Merc, AM, Alpine, and Ferrari are blocking them to combat this. Those manufacturers largest market, by *far and away* is the US, you can damn well be sure the Americans are going to demand equal access to Europe. 2 - F1 does business in the US, if they do not have any *actual, legitimate, legal reason* for Andretti do not race, they're probably going to be in some hot water. The reality is that HAAS *continues to exist* and so long as they do, it's obvious F1 is playing favourites. 3 - US Automakers, specifically The General and FoMoCo are the most influential parts of US politics aside from Lockheed-Martin and Wall St. The Gist is that F1 hasn't played fair here and Andretti is done playing fair as well. They've jumped through literally every absurd hoop and got denied because...well they just don't like them very much. That's not good enough and now the Andretti's are throwing their weight around. Good on 'em.

@LawVS Ай бұрын

That's a fair assessment. Possible naiveté.

@vitreo1363 Ай бұрын

The majority of this argument is undone by the fact that A) Haas' existence debunks the claim that FOM is against American teams, and B) the fact they openly encouraged GM to enter as a PU supplier independently from Andretti proves this conspiracy theory of manufacturers conspiring to keep GM uot of Europe… is utter nonsense.

@mateoorfano6004 Ай бұрын

My best friend tried getting me into f1 around 2018 but it wasn’t till I found you that I understood what an historic and beautiful sport this is

@COMMONsenseAdvocate86 Ай бұрын

I applaud Michael and Mario for doing the thing that wealthy, rich Americans do: bring in the court system! As an American, I am still pretty disgusted by this entire situation. Especially the quotes from Toto Wolff and the other team representatives around the grid. Proclaiming that Andretti is not a name/organization that can bring positivity to the sport is unbelievable fcked up. We have to understand, this is Andretti and fcking General Motors! Even attempting to make the excuse that this team isn't up to the standards for the expansion of the grid is pathetic and utterly stupid.

@ronawayfromme Ай бұрын

14:22 sanest american racing fan

@jaigermeille3482 Ай бұрын

Hell yeah brother murica #1 🇺🇸

@lmSnarkk Ай бұрын

It’s pretty undeniable that Andretti joining as an 11th team will add value to F1 in my opinion. Makes no sense to deny them, just bitter owners who don’t want the risk of being outperformed by a new team.

@ryankelly8902 Ай бұрын

6:48 Never thought Bernie Ecclestone would look like the good guy

@NewtypeCommander Ай бұрын

Right? It's crazy to think that this whole Andretti F1 saga has reached this point, but here we are.

@MichaelPate-michaelkpate Ай бұрын

Mario was a folk hero when I was growing up. Treating the Andretti Family like that shows how out of touch F1's current leadership is.

@joanandreanoweyland57 Ай бұрын

Oh, yes, please tell me how important it is the ONE American dude in a sport of Fangios, Sennas, Prosts and Schumachers.

@lordpilgrimofdunbar Ай бұрын

@@joanandreanoweyland57 please, gatekeep more because 'your heros' are more important than other peoples.

@bilfbunter2248 Ай бұрын

Honestly worst-case scenario i could see f1 getting black balled in the US because of how much power GM has in the gov

@haroldchilton7229 Ай бұрын

I think F1 should be banned from the US is they block Andretti. Fair is fair.

@johannessamuelsson6578 Ай бұрын

Do you think the government might force Liberty Media to sell the series if they don't let Andretti in? Liberty Media is also buying MotoGP's commercial rights holder Dorna Sport, provided the European Commission green-lights the deal from an antitrust angle. Well, Liberty is technically "only" buying the 45% share of Dorna which was previously held by an investment fund, as opposed to buying all of Dorna.

@bilfbunter2248 Ай бұрын

@@johannessamuelsson6578I don't think it will get as far as forcing LM to sell the series but i can see alot of deal Lm is making in the US being affected because of the bad press. The worst case for Lm would be they don't allow andretti in, the government opening a anti trust cases against Lm so the lose the MotoGP deal

@WarriorWildhead1337 Ай бұрын

This makes even more sense when you look at where the Congressmen who signed this litter represent. Florida and Texas (who each host a grand prix) have at least one rep. here, and several are from Michigan and Indiana (where GM and Andretti are based, respectively). One is from North Carolina, which I know is where a lot of NASCAR teams are based but I don't know if Andretti has anything there. This is an easy thing for these congressmen to support since it's something their constituents have an actual stake in EDIT: I wrote this during the beginning of the video when it sounded like you weren't going to go over that but im gonna leave the comment up anyway

@andreastetzer2594 Ай бұрын

Did the same. Looked up the signees Congressional districts. One of the signees has a lot automotive industry experience especially regarding the financial impact of the plants.

@nerdzofsteel9193 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for making decent content and not just clickbait garbage like too much of formula 1 content.

@scottbrick9918 Ай бұрын

I never thought that the US government would ever get involved in F1, nothing can surprise me now

@jsnsk101 Ай бұрын

maybe they are building a 60 billion f1 track in ukraine next!

@JakeFromFarm243jdbalXD0-2gNhsC Ай бұрын

The Fact they said their name wouldn't "Bring any value to the sport" is such a big insult to the Andrettis too. Mario Andretti was prestigious during his time in F1 and he's been in so many sports afterwards too. The dude is a master behind the wheel in any car he can get in, and you can't say that to about anyone who has ever raced. If Andretti can get into F1 it would bring in loads if not more viewers to the sport especially more american viewers. Given the time needed to race and make adjustments and upgrades, Andretti can be a contender for the championship in F1

@n1k0n_ Ай бұрын

As an American I can say you do one of the best "murica bro" accents. I lol'd

@chipsawdust5816 Ай бұрын

Yep - he almost managed to get all his "Brit" out of it but not all :)

@paulbrennan2018 Ай бұрын

Excellent tactics! Threaten f1's potential market and growth. The U.S. could block them from competing within the States. Dilution is one type of loss, but nothing compared to the actual loss of the U.S. market and fanfare. That's pretty much guaranteed Andretti a place on the grid! I'm delighted such actions are being taken to make F1 answer up and be accountable. If Andretti can employ devious strategies as such, they'll do great in F1! P.S. I'm not from the U.S. I just want F1 to grow and become more exciting!

@HoofHearted801 Ай бұрын

Given the corporate structure of F1, the FiA, Liberty Media and stock shares, I understand completely why Mario would want to alert the US gov't to another greedy corporation bent on extracting profits from US markets withouit allowing US the ability to compete in it. Andretti is a very credable name and they have jumped thru the numerous and ever changing hoops required to enter an F1 team. And Mario Andretti has a lifetime of family experiences where he has demonstrated that winning at all levels is done with integrity and dignity grounded in character strengths of kindness and humility while being a great competitor at the same time. His character is above reproach. It seems that they are being excluded for no good or valid reason, so they deserve to be given a legitimate answer, or be given a grid assignment.

@chipsawdust5816 Ай бұрын

Well said, Hoof.

@burner8959 Ай бұрын

The thing that should scare the crap out of everyone at F1 is the U.S. government being concerned that they are "acting like a cartel". I hope they all have their finances in order because I'm sure the U.S. Justice Department is itching to make another example like FIFA.

@jo-zv4fc Ай бұрын

I think it makes sense to include the US government on Andretti's end when F1 is asking for money from the cities they're building races in, like Vegas contributed 40 million dollars, and F1 doesn't necessarily up tourism in the cities; they've built new street circuits/tracks. Like people (foreign or not) already go to Las Vegas and Miami a ton. If you want money from the American market, you should at least expect this level of entitlement; it's expected to have an actual American team that isn't Haas.

@Celoth Ай бұрын

Couple of points I'd make: * The US government is massive, and the focus of the government isn't such a finite resource that getting Congress members onboard with ensuring Liberty Media (an American company) isn't stifling American jobs and entrepeneurship means taking *away* from other things Congress can *and should* be focusing on. Mostly, Congress passes things like Andretti's complaints off to Bureaus of apolitical entities whose job it is to enforce these things. * To any Andretti detractors complaining about this, I'd challenge them to show me *any* F1 team who wouldn't and doesn't regularly go to the Stewards with rules technicalities and challenges to ensure they are getting the absolute best advantage for their team. Andretti's tactics here are 100% in keeping with that, and shows that Andretti aren't the type who are naive enough to think that everything is solely resolved "on-track" so to speak. Andretti are playing for keeps and ready to go.

@TheLickalittle Ай бұрын

As an American, what’s the resentment about bringing an American team onto the grid? Just the natural animosity European have against Americans? I really really want an American team in F1.

@deanchur Ай бұрын

HAAS is an American F1 team. Their main base of operations is in Minneapolis and they have one in Banbury, England as well.

@LoganHunter82 Ай бұрын

This time, It's not us europeans. We actually DO want Andretti to join. Even FIA said they're allowing Andretti to join. It was american owned Liberty Media and FOM that said no to Andretti

@scroopynooperz9051 Ай бұрын

I think it has to do with splitting the prize pot with another competent/ competitive team. F1 is becoming very popular and the teams have become fat hogs off all that new money rolling in - this is all about greed

@jamesbolling6681 Ай бұрын

The other teams are afraid of Andretti/Cadillac because they know there is a very good chance they will get their snobby asse's kicked.

@souldry Ай бұрын

Trying to dig deeper and deeper inside American wallets while at the same time treating US racing royalty like gutter trash. It wasn’t a simple rejection, they just had to throw insults into the mix. Consequences will never be the same.

@jackdraper8603 Ай бұрын

Andretti Cadillac to pick up Adrian Newey during his 2025 garden leave?? Might make their program look like a serious contender. I also wonder if, since Andretti is not an F1 team, if Newey’s non-compete could prevent him from working there in 2025.

@Rozic745 Ай бұрын

Well, if he's employed in the United States and not in England, Non competes have been banned by the FTC last week in the United States, making his non-compete invalid and unenforceable in the US.

@cidklutch Ай бұрын

We can dream right?

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

@@Rozic745doesn’t matter, he still has that deal with RBR, doesn’t matter what you think of it

@Rozic745 Ай бұрын

@Redlingstein well, it doesn't matter. His deal was announced and he can leave after the rb17 project is finished in 2025. There allowing him to join another team immediately if he chooses after his official finale day with RBR.

@cosminlesutan3574 Ай бұрын

You are really delusional if you think Newye will go to a yanks non existent team :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

@Bourne246 Ай бұрын

Honestly i really hate getting government involved but anti trust issue raised really hits a big point

@skkho1204 Ай бұрын

I had zero idea Live Nation was under Liberty. This makes so much sense now!

@albertko1 Ай бұрын

And there's already increased scrutiny on Ticketmaster and Live Nation already... More government scrutiny on Liberty might be find a lot more "cartel" behavior

@graemewestbrook8826 Ай бұрын

Now I know why the uk lost one nation dnb

@llahsemaj1 Ай бұрын

Oh man you should look up those baseball players having to testify in front of congress about cheating allegations. Us Americans really take sports serious .

@an-albumhole4400 Ай бұрын

Toto will She-it a brick.... No, NO, NO Mickey... this is so NOT right!!.... which is ALWAYS a plus for me... get in Andretti's 👍

@chipsawdust5816 Ай бұрын

Andretti has been a huge name in American racing for all of my 65 years. Mario himself is 84 years old and won the F1 championship when I was 20. As you said he's a household name, but maybe a bit more than that, and in this case a source of pride. They did everything the FIA asked them to in order to make application and as you said, it should have been said and done by now. It's not about "hur dur 'Merica stickin' it to those stuffy Europeans" - for Andretti it's all about the actual racing. The cash is of course necessary but GM seems to have a few spare bucks laying around. And this isn't Ford trying to beat Ferrari, nothing like that. That was personal, to a large extent while this situation is purely the business of racing. Getting the government involved, yeah maybe some people think it's overboard, but FOM really didn't give them any options, just a flat "no" for no good reason. Where's the appeal board? Well they found one. The Andrettis are racers, fighters, what the hell do you expect? Maybe they join and are back markers for a decade, then all of Europe can crow about the shitty American race team. But even lowly Haas has scored race points, so I doubt a GM-backed Andretti team would end up at the back.

@morganpowell2999 Ай бұрын

Also not gonna lie, if Cadillac starts getting podiums in F1, you dang right I’m gonna be fired up 😂

@vivasharma07 Ай бұрын

Go Team Andretti, full support as it will bring more to the sport and 2 more driver spots young talent can fill in rather than roting in F2

@danarose2677 Ай бұрын

I would like to point out that F1 and IRL got about the same ratings last year. I feel like the F1 circuit is more interested in the States than the States are in F1. It is almost like a team based in this country would help them gain more ground. Feels kinda like they want our money but not our competition. Watched Indy/CART off and on my whole life. Do not feel the need to add a session of competitive follow the leader, umm, I mean race.

@Reiver-93 Ай бұрын

There's a reason it feels kinda like they want your money but not your competition, because that is *exactly* what they want.

@KINGMARS413 Ай бұрын

I bet most American fans don't know HAAS is actually "American". Unless they watch NASCAR, they wouldn't know. HAAS doesn't really advertise themselves as an American team. As an American, I would love to see an American team, with an American driver, that actually want's to be associated with America

@Striker52C Ай бұрын

Ive been an Indycar fan all my life and go to the Indy 500 every year. The Andretti name carries a lot of legacy in American motor sport. I'd say similar to Lauda or Marko in F1 or Earnhardt in NASCAR. It would be a shame for all racing fans if Andretti isn't allowed entry

@hughjohnson2674 Ай бұрын

Oh and Andretti are competing in the Mighty V8 Supercars here in Oz, they are a large and talented racing Organisation, they race Camaros here…..a GM product.

@gsheist Ай бұрын

As a former strategist for GM, I can tell you that GMs lobbying efforts are deep, long-standing, and influential. This is an economic and competitive argument and it makes sense for Congress to inquire and get some transparency from them.

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

The decision was clear, GM pulled out of the Andretti deal…. They suddenly didn’t want to supply any engine until 2028…. That’s their OWN FAULT, that was 1 of the reasons for the rejection…. And that’s why FOM said, you can re-apply for 2028 WITH GM AS NEW ENGINE SUPPLIER. Andretti and GM failed their own plan….

@jvydenlovescruises Ай бұрын

@@Redlingsteinah right, the ones lobbying to enter the sport, denying other teams, the engine provider for andretti for most things left andretti makes real sense idiot

@NewtypeCommander Ай бұрын

@@Redlingstein That is factually wrong. GM said in a statement that the registration process to be an OEM, the development and the supply of Power Units came down to timing. According to them, GM wanted to register as an OEM sooner, but the governing rules stated that the process would take time. And so that's why the Cadillac engine won't be ready until 2028. On top of that, the deal between Andretti and Cadillac hasn't been broken up. In fact, it appears that the opposite is happening and that the ties between the two entities are deepening. I think the deal you are referring to is the deal with Renault, which did indeed lapse. However, articles I've read point to that the deal could renewed if Andretti get a slot on the grid.

@DevinEMILE Ай бұрын

@@NewtypeCommander Just give up on that guy. He's blatantly spreading incorrect information.

@NewtypeCommander Ай бұрын

@@DevinEMILE You're not wrong, but one should always call out bulls**t when they see it.

@Mazaco_The_Snake Ай бұрын

As an American myself, I would love to see Cadillac give Ferrari a reason to start being good again

@merijnfluitman5761 Ай бұрын

It was shameful and short-sighted that the teams rejected Andretti for fear of losing income. I hope Andretti gets in, even if they have to do it with the help of the government. It will be a great boost to the sport as finally, the Americans will have a real connection to the sport.

@AaronAL59 Ай бұрын

I don't get it. They want to increase American viewership, letting Andretti in is one of the best ways to do that.

@atharvadate7345 Ай бұрын

Anti-Trust regulations in the US exist for this very reason, basically this law prevents any company from gaining a monopoly and if they do end up capturing the market, this law makes sure that they don’t exploit the consumer and the competition

@walktroughman1952 Ай бұрын

So why is Microsoft so monopolistic?

@mmwosu Ай бұрын

@@walktroughman1952 Ever heard of Apple? Microsoft is far from a monopoly. Anti-capitalists throw that term too loosely without truly understanding what it means

@y_fam_goeglyd Ай бұрын

The same rules apply in the UK. The Monopolies Commission has split up huge companies, or prevented two major companies from joining before now.

@chris9650 Ай бұрын

Amazon. Apple. Microsoft. Alphabet.

@reddwarf666 Ай бұрын

@@mmwosu To play devils advocate here: the US has Indycar/NASCAR/Indy500 and maybe a couple of others I am not aware of. So if Apple counts as a counter to the Microsoft monopoly, would the existing racing already available not counter that F1 is a monopoly? While it is computing and sectors are comparable between Apple and Microsoft, you can argue that Apple does things very differently, so NASCAR not being the exact same as F1 (thank the heavens above...) is not going to hold either. Both have cars, both race. What is the monopoly problem here? Or is protecting your 'ecosystem' not valid once it comes to F1?

@darthclone5081 Ай бұрын

As an American I can definitely tell you that politicians focusing on this while our country burns and our civil liberties are being taken away is a regular office day

@Takingyoutojail Ай бұрын

You voted for them You vote for the politicians (not you personally, I’m saying Americans as a whole)

@darthclone5081 Ай бұрын

@@Takingyoutojail it honestly doesn’t matter who we vote for lobbyist run this country, if you look at the amount of money lobbyists have “donated” they donate to politicians from both sides plus they all do insider trading. It doesn’t matter who we vote for, we are screwed.

@satanswolf Ай бұрын

As they say, you mess with the bull you get the horns! It can get really messy, "LM we race in Miami Texas and Vegas. Us gvt. " Are you sure? And to answer to your question, no is no coincidental that each time some big news abt. Andretti comes up something huge happens in F1. I am very curious to see what they going to come up with this time especially in Miami. It's gonna be fun!

@arg_9584 Ай бұрын

Keepin the season interesting while Max and Redbull cruise to another championship.

@temp5782 Ай бұрын

Bc. Watching the best ever do his thing is boring?

@mattfantastic9969 Ай бұрын

This might be the most useful thing our government does this year, don't stop them now. Plus, as long as they're busy doing this, they can't pass any more stupid laws.

@cidklutch Ай бұрын

Let. Them. In........Let. Them. In............Let them. In........LET THEM IN!

@matthewfreear Ай бұрын

Why 🤷‍♂️ we’ve already got one American proving that they can’t drive, we don’t need a team doing it.

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

@@matthewfreear the American that owns the team is a former F1 champion, why not? There have been other Americans that have won GP's (even with cars they designed and built) ever heard of Dan Gurney and the American Eagle? Maybe the Gurney flap?

@castrocakes Ай бұрын

@@matthewfreear Euros can't drive NASCAR stfu.

@SavingTheUndesireables Ай бұрын

@@matthewfreearweak question

@codyadams3698 Ай бұрын

Haas is a joke and so is Logan quite frankly if Andretti were to enter they would immediately bring a lot more to F1 than Alfa Romeo, Alpine, Haas or even Williams

@netter11 Ай бұрын

You going down and back up broke the immersion! D: But solid video as always! Keep it up!

@ogbreezy4857 Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t be surprised if this could be the reason Domenecalli gets put on the hot seat as this whole situation blows up in f1 management’s face

@Ikcatcher Ай бұрын

The other teams wouldn’t be happy not because Andretti joined though government intervention, they’d be unhappy another team is taking away their precious money

@johannessamuelsson6578 Ай бұрын

You should look up Equipe Ligier from the 70s-90s. They were really in with the government.

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

Law, remember a lot of folks in America buy those fancy German and Italian and even British (when they run) automobiles. I would love to see Porsche make a return, you can probably reason why by my prior comment. Let's hope the manufacturers aren't so short sighted as to shoot themselves in the foot. I'm more about the Andretti legacy (particularly Mario) and seeing them/him reach the pinnacle, as you said. Cadillac is really neither here nor there for me, although they seem to be holding their own in the IMSA series.

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

Porsche didn’t want to….

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

@@Redlingstein Yup, Porsche doesn't need F1.

@graemewestbrook8826 Ай бұрын

No it's the vw group did not want 2 competing brands they own they have already done that in the wec in the past

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

@@graemewestbrook8826 that was the official reasoning. I still insist Porsche doesn't need F1. Would I love to see them there? Of course.

@asmodeus6631 Ай бұрын

F1 has never liked the American involvement in their series, and now another American team with an engine manufacturer are intruding into their profits and with ford coming into the picture with Redbull its totally freaking them out. Must be afraid of a little competition.

@axelochoa1522 Ай бұрын

Something I would like to point out, the US government got involved in football (soccer) when they prosecuted FIFA because of corruption in 2015, although it was truly done for a different reason. It just comes to show that if the US government wants to get involved in sports somehow, they will especially if they want something to go their way. The fact that Liberty Media is based in the US is even more damning to them

@413TomaccoRoad Ай бұрын

Don't forget WTR / Andretti Acura in IMSA, I hear they're coming to WEC next year too.

@buztel Ай бұрын

Imagine that: Someone comes to your house and ask "Hey, can I (we) play with our toys in your backyard?" You kindly let them and than they are like "We like it here, can we play in 3 parts of your outdoors as well?" You are thinking 'Heck, why not..' And than, at later you decide to join in the fun with your own toys - that are a match or maybe better than theirs - and you say "Hey, can I (we) join in? We have the most advanced toys, too.." At that they be like "Aah, nope.. We are only to play in your backyard, you can't play with us in your own outdoors, no matter where your toys are at.." Madness. Nonetheless. Thanks again for sharing top content.

@markntexas8265 Ай бұрын

Oh FYI the letter is legally required prior to USCON being able to subpoena all records from Liberty and then of course the public grilling in front committees.

@cliffordbradford8910 Ай бұрын

Andretti didn't “go to Congress", he was interviewed by Martin Brundle on his grid walk and he Said that some Congresspeople invited him to discuss it. AFAIK, Liberty Media is an American company so anti-trust laws apply and even if they weren't, anti-trust still applies since they and F1 do business in the USA. Is team sports like American football, baseball etc get exemptions to antitrust because of tradition/practicality (you can't just have a random number of teams in a league) but that doesn't historically apply to racing. In racing, you show up with a legal car you get to race. Also, historically *that's how Formula 1 worked too*... This “franchise”/Concord business is not traditional... BTW, US courts have taken up sports issues before, for example in the America's Cup where have had cases specifically about who could or could not compete. So I always thought this could end up in courti just didn't think it would end up in politics.

@413TomaccoRoad Ай бұрын

The Caddy GTP/ Hypercars are no joke!

@red5standingby419 Ай бұрын

It wasn't even so much that they rejected them. It was how they did it. Reading through that rejection letter its just filled with insults and condescension. They gave no real valid reasons as to why but they gave plenty of arrogant insults. As an American, I too got into the sport because of the Netflix series. So much so my wife and I travelled to Austin in 2022 for the Grand Prix there. Spent thousands of dollars on tickets/merch etc. After this BS we will no longer be making any plans to spend any money on F1. Might catch the occasional race on TV but that's about it.

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

Great. So you actually are a Netflix watcher not a racing fan. Then don’t watch 😂 You won’t be missed.

@temp5782 Ай бұрын

@@Redlingsteini understand this man. I’ve seen Senna crash live and been to 12gp’s (not a Netflix fan) it’s great that this man and his wife came to enjoy f1. It would be awesome to have Andretti and all his fans in the sport.

@temp5782 Ай бұрын

Have patience. You are very welcome in the sport and i hope you have the patience to see Andretti in the sport.

@deandrebledsoe Ай бұрын

The fact the “they “tried to lure GM away means Andretti has something going there & might be more competitive

@ZeZwede Ай бұрын

as a long time F1 fan since the 90's, i just cant comprehend in what way andretti would make f1 "worse". it would obviously be more interesting, especially for the f1 crowd in the US.

@QuimFreecss Ай бұрын

I absolutelly love how this is blowing up in FoM face. The way are treating Andretti is a travesty. And not letting Andretti in is also just insulting us F1 fans. They want us to belive shitty street circuits done in a hurry and half assed sprint races are really going to make the season more interesting while an 11th team that comes from a very competent motorsport background and one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world? FoM are just greedy and are too high with power, and seeing it bite them back is absolutelly brilliant.

@TheSlowoldman Ай бұрын

HEAR! HEAR!

@dimitrijensk2845 Ай бұрын

Normally I wouldn’t like this aggressiveness in order to secure an entry but Andretti jumped through literally every hoop put in their way and F1 still told them to essentially go f*** themselves. At this point, it is clear that no matter what they did, F1 would still try to find a reason to say no. I fully support this. 7:45 I have been calling them a cartel for a very long time. Very glad to see an actual representative sees it too.

@chris9650 Ай бұрын

GM pulled out. This makes me not wanna see andretti get in because they are throwing their weight out and about because they can't get things their own way.

@dimitrijensk2845 Ай бұрын

@@chris9650 when was this?

@KINGMARS413 Ай бұрын

@@chris9650 Source? I doubt GM would actually want to pull out of this. If they were to go into F1 it would let them compete with Ford and bring them some money depending where Andretti places while in F1.

@chris9650 Ай бұрын

@@KINGMARS413 they delayed the entry date, not pulled out.

@caleb_does_gaming9642 Ай бұрын

14:30 you did a pretty solid impression of NASCAR fans, I’m not disappointed ,although it was out of the blue, I’m impressed

@Zoom15000 Ай бұрын

Can you imagine if Andretti continue to be blocked and then one day they rent out a circuit somewhere for a day (Silverstone) and roll out a full-spec, working, GM-powered F1 car and go testing in front of the media? That would be a sight to see.

@ShockF1 Ай бұрын

us gov is crazy to defend 1 team

@DanishWistara Ай бұрын

I mean FOM apparently is going against some anti-trust law so it's honestly on FOM, not Andretti

@kennyj43 Ай бұрын

Why?

@Gleepglurp Ай бұрын

It has to do with liberty media being based in America and then falling under antitrust anti competition lawsuits

@Michael-pi8ps Ай бұрын

It’s not just “1 team” it’s the American team. There’s a big “Americans need to support Americans first” movement going on.

@cosmic-tiger Ай бұрын

I have some sympathy with the frustration of all the F1 teams stopping an entry for selfish financial reasons. But I do wonder if coming in as a hostile entrant is really a good idea.

@nordvestgaming1238 Ай бұрын

I mean tbf Andretti jumped thru every single hoop that FOM threw at them, got all of the approvals they needed, waited literal years, and even brought one of the largest automanufactuerers on board just for F1 to basically be like "Sucks to suck", F1 has no one but themselves to blame for the hostility.

@JonathanWaterbury Ай бұрын

Right it’s hostile because of f1, so many hoops. This is just silly.

@95mushroom Ай бұрын

Basically, FOM wrote a check, the US Gov't is about to cash

@djholster676 Ай бұрын

While Andretti and Cadillac want to get in for selfish financial reasons. It's not that they are trying to improve F1, it is to get a slice of the pie.

@chipsawdust5816 Ай бұрын

@@djholster676 Are you serious bro? All teams are in it for the money. Why else? Get real. They don't want to share their pie, that's the issue. And you think an 11th team would make F1 less watchable somehow?

@1986arseny Ай бұрын

I'll put another question on the table. Let's assume that another brand is remotely considering to enter F1. A return of Toyota, for example. And then, 'Toyota' is seeing this breach between FIA and FOM. How a brand that's racing competetively on almost every other league except WRC is denied on the basis that it's not relevant enough. I fully understand that the way the FIA pushed for this was bad, and the FOM is probably reacting to that. But the consequences of this rejection could mean the end of another global brand joining in. Ford is surely having some serious second toughts after all that happened with GM going full send with a new entry. If the Red Bull Powerplant won't work, Ford will either have to buy Racing Bulls, or pull out, because a new entry will probably being rejected.

@T.N.D.88 Ай бұрын

Ford is pretty much involved with a power unit that's already developed through Red Bull/Honda... GM is starting from scratch.

@ItsMeRedd_ Ай бұрын

I think if this escalated quickly then maybe the US won’t let a US, Miami, or Las Vegas GP for a season, then that would make F1 lose there marbles.

@andreipatrascu1944 Ай бұрын

it's because Netflix series. There's too many ppl following, there's too much money and they don't wanna give away a share of it. And it's so much money here that they can afford to pay to make this disappear. I am refusing to hear anything about it because it's a shitty series that want to cash it now on the success of Netflix series rather than care about the future of the sport. we should all refuse to buy tickets, watch it on TV, cancel subscription with anything f1 related and voice ourselves hoping we get more teams, more competition. F2 champions no longer have a place in F1 because we have so few teams and so few sits. :( meanwhile I am looking for other series to follow, series that allow more teams to join. oh, did I mention I am from Europe and I am not a US fan I just want more competition, I have the limited nr of teams and plans to reduce it even more just so current teams get more money! they are ruining this series for money :(

@leonopterix981 Ай бұрын

You say it’s going to leave a sour taste if they get in due to legal reasons, it’s going to hurt McLaren, Aston, and Ferrari when they get in and 3 years later have a championship caliber car with more money than any other team, because we are Americans that’s just how it tends to go

@scroopynooperz9051 Ай бұрын

If "that's the way it tends to go", that would mean America has the best engineers, those engineers dominate the car market and produce the best cars the world wants to own. That simply isn't the case now is it? 😂 It's not nearly a given that Andretti / GM / Cadillac would dominate F1, chances are they would struggle for a long time just like Toyota, BMW etc did BUT it is scandalous that they aren't being allowed to try. Hope those politicians succeed in getting them in there.

@JasonAtlas Ай бұрын

Not sure if it parallels but Lemans is much more open to everyone and it seems fine

@bernardausterberry9795 Ай бұрын

F1 ran with more than 12 teams long before Horner , Wolf and co. 11 shouldn't be a problem. Just as Liberty could stand 3 fewer events. Red Bull is happy to receive Ford engines and Mercedes-Benz enjoys the US market.stuff like this is why the SCCA and The FIA remain separate. Besides I would love to see the Liberty boys having a chat in a congressional hot seat.

@wcapeling Ай бұрын

My thing with the new concord agreement is that they are considering adding points up to 12th position which would make sense for 12 teams so why bring the limit down to 10?

@LawVS Ай бұрын

Enshrining the status quo of team numbers probably.

@mattt525 Ай бұрын

Honestly it is an antitrust issue. If they met the criteria and still don't let them race. I am fine with congress working on this. They have spent 8 months arguing about foreign weapons sale then let it happen anyways.

@Redlingstein Ай бұрын

They did NOT meet all criteria! Cos GM pulled out of the deal! They suddenly didn’t want to supply any engine until 2028…. So GM BLEW THE DEAL THEMSELVES after FIA had checked the proposal……. Andretti should blame GM….

@chrish931 Ай бұрын

Well they have three races here in the US and the ownership is an American company and being that rules by the FIA state 24 grid spots and Andretti is being denied one with only 20 spots on the grid, they do have an anti trust argument that could be made, whether its worth it or winnable is a whole other can of worms. I will add that Al Davis in the 80's proved that a monolithic sports league could be sued for anti-trust and lose when he sued the NFL as owner of the Oakland Raiders to move to LA, and the NFL is a much bigger, more lucrative sports league than F1 is.

@shinebassist Ай бұрын

This is a slam dunk. The sort of protectionist policies FOM are pursuing in cahoots with the teams, are exactly the sort of thing anti trust law was created to prevent. It's also detrimental to the sport. It would be much better if we filled out both the remaining spots on the grid with andretti and possibly prema too.

@jfreak8318 Ай бұрын

No offense taken. You're absolutely right! I'd love to feel like my country is truly represented in F1 and have a team to be proud of. I'll always be a Ferrari fanboy at heart, but I've grown up a GM fan, too.