Yeah she just got way too naive. It's somewhat silly that maelstrom and vdb think it's that easy to curry favor with the AI

Too bad I killed her

​@@LayedBackGamers like with the Alt AI. They don't care about honor, integrity or have humanity. Theres no favor with the AIs possible. Only being useful for their own objectives, until you aren't.

Yeah when she double crossed my V, it was a choice she didn't get a chance to regret.

@@kbo8029 just like the vdb honestly

It's weird how you can even play the game without ever hearing about them pretty much. Really goes to show how well they hide themselves.

It’s mentioned as one of the big 5 corps but ingame you never do find them in anything it’s odd every other corp is caught by you in some scuzzy dealing or blantant evil acts but nightcorp is just hidden throughout

​@LayedBackGamers my first playthrough I had literally no idea that they existed

@@LayedBackGamersi played and beat the game about 5 times so apparently they’re so good at hiding themselves that if i’m not paying attention i’ll miss them even if i encounter them

@@LayedBackGamers i surmize the AI's have already taken control of their first big mega corp hands presence in NC is chilling don't u think?

Too bad that Backfired. Low key deserved it

An AI will always see humans as tools. Alt confirmed it to V in the Star Ending. Voodoo Boys are really stupid I mean REALLY STUPID. Thank God it backfired bc imagine them working for Rogue AIs ... Night City would be fcked...

arasaka is at its strongest in the devil ending though, in all other endings yorinobu succeeds in essentially ruining the corp

There's also the gig in Heywood involving (spoilers] Arasaka paying the Valentinos to attack an Arasaka transport with Militech equipment. Seems like Arasaka is trying to kickstart a war.

Phantom Liberty delves deep into the growing tensions of Arasaka and Militech. There's also a gig for Padre where you uncover plots by Arasaka hiring gangs to hit militech, trying to provoke a casus belli

Unfortunately there’s a message on a computer in game about buying him the ai I mean he is definitely from beyond the Blackwall

Lmao isn't that the vending machine. Watch out choom...he's gonna start vending humans

Keep returning to Brenden and he'll eventually give you a quest where you'll learn a lot more about him.

If you finish Brenden's questline you eventually find out he's not an AI, but basically just a chatbot. It's pretty sad, and there is another character involved but yea, he isn't actually all that advanced.

its more ambiguous than that. all he's SUPPOSED to be is a chatbot.@@GrainOnTheGo

⁠@@GrainOnTheGothat something an advanced AI would claim😂 but it is funny and interesting that both Brendan and Mr. Blue Eyes would say the exact same thing to V “I know what you are V”. They both know about V dying and resurrecting thanks to the chip. Something that only to people are supposed to know in NC.

They gotta balance that though. I think Cyberpunk JUST in space wouldnt work that well.

@@kadirr8974Agreed. Space, if included at all, would probably be a very small part of the game. Cyberpunk has to be grungy and you can make space grungy but not like Night City that promises so much and looks good in neon, until you walk down an alley way and see the distressed and disillusioned hulks. But I do hope we get rogue AI and at least more space than in Cyberpunk 2077.

That it's in 2095 checked the timeline

this seems pretty possible as cyberpunk sequel has codename ORION and we know that ORION in cyberpunk 2020 was basically group of bad ass special operation soldiers. I imagine that the sequel will be about rescuing humanity and fighting against AI. also this is possible that V will come back as a merc fighting with AI if the temperance ending is canon (in temperance ending V joins alt but theoretically V became an engram so its still possible to separate him from alt and bring back to life as it is shown as possible in the devil ending when saburo arasaka comes back to light in the body of his son)

V never jacks in to the Net (except to see the black wall) in game, as he's just a user of the tech written and made by actual netrunners. Hes smart enough to use the tools, not make them, no matter how you play.

@@Ultravenom1 Which is bullshit. The game acts like you're a netrunner in certain dialogue options, and CDPR said you'd get to play a netrunner, but the reality is that you're just a solo with quickhacks. My first character back when the game launched was supposed to be a netrunner, and I was beyond disappointed that all that cool Net shit that I got all excited about before launch was completely inaccessible in the actual game, and the netrunning we saw in the demo was a total lie.

​@@jaffarebellion292 I agree. The first ending I got was the one where I stormed Arasaka towers with Johnnys old crew. During the conversation with Alt that you will die anyways you have to decide wether to go beyond the blackwall or return to your body. The catch being that you speak from the perspective of silverhand. At that point I wanted Johnny to have my bod but when I selected it V would be sooo pissed about it. Dude. You are an ex corp netrunner. Isnt this the best thing to ever happen to you? You will die anyways and this this way you will become an immortal ai living in the net. That sounds awesome. What tf you are gonna do with those measly 6 monts anyway? Why not give your body to Silverhand, your best friend at this point? Really was a "the illusion of choice moment" for me...

I'd agree! I believe the monk is another example of a rogue AI with its own purpose like delamain. To help humans and interact with them

I dont think the monk had any cyberware. Unless it invades individuals and become kinda like what Johnny is to V. Only the individual sees the monk but rest dont, but that feels kinda off since he hands you a BD headset if i remember correctly.

​@@LayedBackGamerspersonally I think he, like the tarot cards, may indicate something more spiritual than an AI.

@@marcusbergman6116 makes more sense he a guide to you and other around night city and the world and at the end Johnny points out how he didn’t see anything you did so the monk only spoke to you and only you saw his visions it’s odd considering Johnny is in everything else

I really hope Mr Blue Eyes isn't actually Blackhand. It'd be pretty pathetic if he got gamed like that. I don't think he is since Pondsmith claimed that Blackhand in 2045 looks like George Clooney

MBE is not Morgan Blackhand. Morgan Blackhand was last seen fighting Adam Smasher atop Arasaka tower. (Johnny's relic chip is fragged and he does not remember history accurately.) Unlike Silverhand, Morgan was actually a Solo and was more than enough of a match for that earlier iteration of Smasher. I have been playing the tabletop since cyberpunk 2013 (1st Ed).

@@LordofSyn I actualy believe that JS memories are not accurate because Arasaka mendle with it.

@@secondaryfront 1 Johnny was not a nice guy. 2 Why would they? 3 The technology itself could have corrupted the memories

@@LordofSyn 1. Nah, even narcissism cannot just alter memories that drasticaly 2. Experiment to test engram stability, for example? Who is a better guinea pig for that than your former enemy? But that's not the only possible reason. 3. Yes, that's another possibility.

I'm glad you've been enjoying the content choom! I appreciate your support and hope to continue improving. It's a matter of personal preference, there are pdfs online that you can find pretty easily if your only goal is to read through the sourcebooks. There's also wiki covering all the different sourcebooks in existence so they're easier to search the title of. Now if you're a collector or hands on reader like myself, I'd definitely recommend at least getting the core rulebook. Such as 2020 and red. I also have a video covering the essential sourcebooks so that might help also!

I've got the vast majority on PDF. Shout me if you want them. 👍

Agree with choom above and as well do i have a majority on pdf as well most definitely tho waiting for the edgerunners ttrpg!!

@@paulleach3612 Can I have those PDFs? 🙏 I'd love to read them while sitting at work waiting for something interesting to happen 😂😂

@@J4RDAAN I'm watching this video at work waiting for something to happen. Lol

Definitely believe it will. The teasers barely scrapped the surface on what's going to happen

Phantom Liberty is going to be the last DLC released for Cyberpunk 2077, officially announced 5 days ago.

I've had enough terrible things happen to me in life that no matter what I enjoy speculating, I never expect the best outcome, but the worst - I'm never disappointed lol

@@chloewebb5526 I've been there and personally had to stop. Constantly expecting the worst did affect some relationships and made me build some pretty extreme walls. I think that disappointment can be healthy, disappointment can be an excellent teacher. Just how surprise can be a delicious reward. I mean, expecting the worst and saying "I knew it" is kind of wild don't you think? But when I expect something, without it being wishful thinking but a reasonable assessment, it does leave room for "this is what went right, and this is what went wrong, next time adjust"

Yup. Was wondering if anyone else would mention that.

Glad you watched and agree choom! Orion is going to have a lot of hype

Doubtful, as cyberpychosis has been a thing since cyberpunk 2020. No AI is needed to drive people psycho, just too many human-deviated implants. The more software you need to get an implant to work with human biology, and the more chunks of the brain you replace/supplement with tech, the more psychologically you deviate from being a normal human and the more your ability to empathize with others is impacted and reduced. Add in pre existing mental instability and the people living in the shitty conditions of 2077 have on average a very low capacity for the more advanced and non-human-biology conforming cyberware.

No that would just be stupid and take away everything of what cyber psychosis is meant to be which is a mental illness brought about and made worse by other factors

Thanks a lot choom! I love creating this content for the community and the support helps a lot. I hope you continue to enjoy! Yet again, thank you.

Thanks a lot choom I'm glad to have your support. I got a Black Dog Narration on the way out of RED then back to another theory!

He is visible on the platform when the train leaves for the shuttle. He standing there with an umbrella

Cyberpunk has a lot of easter eggs and external references, Mr Blue Eyes' look is probably one of them

No, dummy. Different franchise. Would just be a for-fun Easter egg. It would cost them way too much money.

Thanks a lot for the kindness and support choom! Especially for the additional information. I'm hoping we see some more progress in this plot during PL. I originally believed the DLC would be almost entirely about Paralez but not entirely sure anymore on that. Though I can see more being added in relation

Cdpr is an alien confirmed

Should've mentioned more examples of the rogue AI getting through. Lilith is definitely an important one because of that Maelstrom connection!

@@LayedBackGamers I've always thought that the Blackwall was up to something. Letting in select AI's like Lilith, Delamain and The Great Bozo.

I'm hoping they do. It would make for a great plot between Night Corp and NUSA.

I'm not the best at ciphers but that sounds like interesting information. I'll have to look into it if I can find it choom! Thanks for watching and for the info!

Thanks a lot for the support choom. It's weird how the copyright system works but that's a part of youtube I guess. I hope to see ya in the stream!

Those damn Corpos!

@@luismadrigal-hidalgo exactly what I was thinking choom

@CLB Ronin yeah, I think that'll probably turn out to be rather accurate

If the next game is a sequel I wonder which v ending will be cannon or if you continue as v or someone who knew them and where it’ll take place nightcity again would be boring if nothing changed

Thanks a lot McJcave! I hope to see you in the next stream choom and as always thank you for all your support. Rock on choom

I mean from what I've seen Pondsmith fully endorses 2077 and Phantom Liberty as Canon material to Cyberpunk red. Though I am extremely excited for the edgerunner mission kit. Its going to have a lot of information to reveal, and I'm sure we will get a new story to fill in the gaps of Black Dog - 2077. Glad to have your support on my Content choom and am always looking for feedback. Been trying to gather some new information on Smasher, do you know if during the 2023 raid its ever stated what borg body he is in during the silverhand attack compared to his Dai oni armor in the blackhand duel? I can't figure out if he had Dai oni during the lab attack or switched between battles...

@@LayedBackGamers Great question regarding Smasher. Even that is not certain as Pondsmith (who wrote that history) has wavered a few times and may not even remember the certainty of details now. Wish I could give you more but with any creative work this old, there are always retconns and inconsistencies that pop up. I can look back through all of my collection of books but I doubt I'll find it.

I am establishing a buffet

True that Night City will survive and no real major improvements to the system are made regardless of V's actions, but on the other hand Vs actions (intentional or not) led to the destruction of Arasaka in most endings which is a huge change in how the world works since Arasaka was already the world superpower and if it survived the games' events it would have used the Relic program to secure immortality for its leadership.

personally I think you have a massive impact. Yorinobu is starting a 5th corporate war to destroy Arasaka. Depending on your choices you can leave him in power to start the 5th corporate war. Or you can defeat him and get him replaced by his father who will steer Arasaka away from another war. So your choices could not have a bigger impact on future lore

So now you get blocked by a gate just like pacifica for the rocket ship so im suspecting big things from dlc thats a massive area lead to by bridge

Definitely choom. My live streams help me talk about ideas and bounce them around with everyone so it's really helpful. I'm looking forward to what you have to say choom!

V-Takes down crystal palace with araska tecH EUSA MILITECH AND NUSA-"ALRIGHT MOFO YOUVE NOW PISSED US OFF ROYALLY FIRST MEDDLING IN AFFAIRS THAT MEAN SHIT TO YOU THEN USING OUR ENEMIES TECH AGAINST YOU NOW HAVE AN OPTION SHIT BAG DEATH OR be our puppet ....." Remember Eusa didnt like Araska from the beginning and voted against them having anything to down with the crystal palace so its not hard to believe araska is like okay go up there interroga5e this man which they knew would go south winds up blasting out one of the windows which in turns would piss off everyone that araska sent "their weapon to display and cause mass casualities(just like *cough cough* David *cough*)" but EUSA MILITECH NUSA are done playing this fucked up game and then in yurns says you have no option or this is the best option you got where in V in turns is going to make the deal after NUSA EUSAand Militech are no longer bluffing and prepaired for was in the meantime we already know altandrache bartmoss are building/built their armies behind the blackwall and plan on causing a clossal wipeout erasing of everything (Armaggedon Aplocalypse 7 horsemen End of Days Rapture etc.) Pretty much kill everyone and everything....i believe that some how Morgan Blackhand is building an army no longer running the solo path to honestly not just stop the corpos but alt bartmoss and army of rogue ais...well see but this is what im seeing them building up to years of dialogue context etc no offense but pondsmith is getting up higher in age i believe he already has an epic ending/war planned out for his characters to give them the ending they deserve i maybe wrong but this what i see kinda hard not with the years of back story its a matter of time before theres another horrible war in their universe that cause mass depopulation....

As I was watching I also thought about the fourth paragraph you wrote

I definitely hope they manage to pull it off. I think Orion will be an amazing follow up to 2077. There's a lot they can do now since they have the frame work for Cyberpunk. All they have to do is expand on it now.

@@LayedBackGamers, Agreed. A rocky start is still a start. I can see CDPR has passion. They just need clear direction.

It's kind of eery how he just stands there completely untouchable. Wonder if our inability to attack him is due to a netrunning tactic

Ohhhhh... piece it together from Gary, the radio segments, and a little background lore from CP TTRPG. It's unsettling. (Biotechnia has been very VERY naughty. Cloning and human DNA modification...)

Yeah, Biotechnica has used Nomads against their will and unknown to them for inhumane testing. An entire settlement in fact

AI isn't feeling anything. Emotion is a human issue. AI can often be 'friendly' but remote and detached. All most want is a safe digital landscape to room without the treat of being made slaves again.

Militec was doing experiments to make ai with human emotions and it was working at least for the little testing we know they did as not much info on it and there is definitely good ai beyond the Blackwall that’s where delimaine comes from and he’s your average cab driver

Yep. I see a lot of tragedy on its way in the world. Bound to eventually end up in a blade runnet esque situation. Especially since biotechnica is seeming to approach a tyrel status

My assumption is that the ghosts in the net want revenge and they seek that through Alt. Hence the ghost towns. I believe this is so the Alt AI has an easier time using them in a merge and keeping it hidden from netwatch / netrunners. Thanks a lot for the support choom, and yes. The VDBs and Maelstrom alike are foolish to believe they would be excluded from the destruction to come. Hence why Alt fries them all lmao.