Why are the Tories 'terrified' of a Labour 'supermajority'?

Why are the Tories 'terrified' of a Labour 'supermajority'? | LBC debate

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Rishi Sunak has urged voters not to let Labour "waltz into office", as he warned that Labour would "change the rules" to make it harder to vote them out.
Mr Sunak's Conservatives are well behind Labour in the polls ahead of the General Election on July 4. Some polls have forecast fewer than 100 seats, giving Sir Keir Starmer's party a majority of over 200.
Ministers have warned of Labour getting a 'supermajority' that they claim would essentially hand Sir Keir's party unchecked power.
Natasha Devon and callers debate over the impact of a Labour 'supermajority'.
0:00 Why are the Tories 'terrified' of a Labour 'supermajority'?
6:25 This is a 'scaremongering Tory tactic', says caller Robert
8:10 Caller Carol wants to see the Tories 'obliterated'
11:05 Keir Starmer is a 'good manager', says caller Ben
14:01 Caller Rick says there needs to be a 'healthy majority'
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@emckinley1977 2 күн бұрын

Tories have an absolute cheek to complain about a Labour super majority with all the damage they did with there one

@kityhawk2000 Күн бұрын

There's no such thing as a super majority in the UK parliamentary system. A party with a 50 seat majority can pass just as much legislation as a party with a 150 seat majority

@chrisjames5478 Күн бұрын

All politicians are corrupted we need a party talk for the people we need a reform party not a lieing Labour party there will be revelation coming to Britain if Labour get a super majority there will fight on the street when the country has its people up rising we must save Britain 🇬🇧 from corrupted politicians

@nimzgaz7049 Күн бұрын

They terrified of Labour turning the UK into a socialist and left wing country that will satisfy the young voters in the short term but will harm the country in the long term.

@leming400 Күн бұрын

@@kityhawk2000True, although a larger majority allows for more gentle whipping. So the party in power takes longer to tear itself apart

@matthewn1805 Күн бұрын

@@leming400 Or the opposite, a large majority can mean more disagreement with the party and harder for the leadership keep control.

@user-sd3ik9rt6d 2 күн бұрын

The idea of a super majority in British politics is a nonsense, it's an American import.

@gabrieljean-batiste2006 2 күн бұрын

Not just American, but any country with a non-parliamentary system which requires 66% vote to change the Constitution or 60%+ to overturn a presidential veto. Obviously, in parliamentary systems, usually only a majority is needed to change the Constitution.

@tazgecko 2 күн бұрын

All about creating fear in the readership.

@mickreaddin4979 2 күн бұрын

Tories do love to import the American Republican terms/rhetoric.

@patrickuotinen 2 күн бұрын

@@gabrieljean-batiste2006 it's not about non-parliamentary vs. parliamentary system, it's about written constitution vs. non-written constitution. To change the constitution a 2/3 supermajority (though the Finnish term "määräenemmistö" is usually translated "qualified majority") of the MPs is needed, but then the changes must be confirmed in the next parliament. But a supermajority of 5/6 of the MPs can decide, that the change is urgent, to make the change to enter in force immediately.

@rickylocock9068 2 күн бұрын

Didn't the Tories have an 80 seat majority and could donate they wanted? But when it's labour it's the end of the world? Haha

@northyorkshirechris5735 2 күн бұрын

I once met my local Tory MP and asked him why he refused to support proportional representation to make the voting system fairer. His answer? “We prefer strong governments” - but apparently not when the boot is on the other foot.

@kanedNunable 2 күн бұрын

for the last 100 years FPTP has hugely helped the tories. as they were the only right wing party. whilst most of us are centre or to the left, but split between 4 or 5 parties

@TheRip72 2 күн бұрын

The real answer is that nobody would reform a system which put them where they are. Reforming a voting system is therefore a policy which would only ever be supported by a minority party.

@Jonnyonthespot123 Күн бұрын

Boy your MP is hilarious! The Tories haven't been a strong government for many many years now even with their massive majority! The Brexit referendum was done to stop infighting within the party and after that it's been nothing but disaster

@RobinHarris-nf4yv Күн бұрын

5 prime ministers in 8 years “Strong governments” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@emtaylor597 Күн бұрын

And yet in the past 14 years the Tories have had 2 minority governments leading to a coalition and different kind of deal with the DUP. (Forgotten the name).

@paulbird3235 2 күн бұрын

Is it the Daily Mail's decision to decide the size of the "Labour party majority" or the British peoples VOTE. What next, a Tory party who refuse to leave office just has Donald Trump tried to do. FFS what have we become!

@Silver-st2zq 2 күн бұрын

Well said.

@robc7162 Күн бұрын

Haha, I wouldn't put it past the petulant Sunak, Rees-Mogg etc.

@DanM012324 Күн бұрын

That can’t happen because as soon as Labour win a majority of seats Starmer can go to the King and ask to form a government this kicking the Tories out.

@spud95128 Күн бұрын

A newspaper openly telling people how to vote is ridiculous and pathetic. Sad that we all know someone who will do as they say

@paulbird3235 Күн бұрын

@@spud95128 Sheep, springs to mind!...

@tonybrett5209 2 күн бұрын

The Daily Fail.

@pollyannakarina Күн бұрын

The Daily Heil

@In_Paradiso58 Күн бұрын

'The DAILY HEIL FAIL'...

@antonycharnock2993 Күн бұрын

The Daily Heil

@antonycharnock2993 Күн бұрын

If only we could vote out Rupert Murdoch and his horrible right wing media monopoly on the press.

@joeduffy3309 Күн бұрын

they have been in full panic mode for weeks. A delicious sight to behold. Most of their articles are behind a paywall now, i'd love to see the numbers of how many of the rabid commentors on that site actually pay to read that entertainment comic

@crispybits3765 Күн бұрын

I hope Labour gets the biggest majority in history and then makes use of it. Things need to change in this country. It no longer functions on behalf of its citizens.

@therealrobertbirchall 4 сағат бұрын

Starver will sell off what's left after the tories have filled their pockets.

@747Antman Күн бұрын

It’s phenomenal that the person who said they wanted the Tories “absolutely obliterated, smashed to the ground.” was once a Tory. That is a startling fact.

@anthonysteel6877 Күн бұрын

Not really,I've always been anti Tory but the present crop are unlike anything we've had before.

@alexjaybrady Күн бұрын

@@anthonysteel6877Britain got rich murdering or enslaving absolutely anyone they could and stealing their countries... don't kid yourself.

@johnbeechy Күн бұрын

ex chain smokers r usually the first to demand 'smoking be banned'.

@PanglossDr 21 сағат бұрын

@@johnbeechy Not true. I'm an ex-smoker and have no problem with cigarette smoke but I detest vaping.

@Shcroft2 20 сағат бұрын

@@PanglossDr I'm an ex smoker and only vape now

@S-I-T Күн бұрын

Daily Mail needs shutting down.

@Redsleather Күн бұрын

Give it 10 years (if that) and it’ll die off along with its boomer fan base. Does anyone under 70 actually read it?

@antonioross9006 Күн бұрын

That's why they're in panic mode!

@samhunter1205 Күн бұрын

Shutting down press organisations (even ones as loathsome as the Mail) is a bad idea - you don't want every government to have that sort of power. But banning media ownership by people who are not resident in the UK for tax purposes? Now that sounds appealing. If you want to be more radical, ban private ownership of media outlets altogether and have them run by some form of social interest non-profit (not government run).

@sammasati6981 2 күн бұрын

More Tory panic & tears… delicious!

@methanedirigible 2 күн бұрын

There’s a moreish almost _umami_ flavour to their panic. Now who’s project fear?

@colinmathie2710 Күн бұрын

They're all panicking like f**k, its fantastic to watch 😂

@georgebutler44 Күн бұрын

I’m assuming all of you are under 20. Therefore I’ll explain something. It’s called accountability. Imagine this the other way round, a Tory govt with no feasible opposition. A huge portion of the country unrepresented with no voice. You’d be just as angry and just as worried. It’s called an opposition so the government can’t just run riot with out accountability. When you’re older you’ll understand this and maybe just maybe you’ll grow to understand it without continually living in your own echo chamber.

@chrissouthgate4554 Күн бұрын

@@georgebutler44 We don't have to imagine, that in effect is what we have had for the last 14 years.

@SpenceJS87 Күн бұрын

@@georgebutler44Ah, there's the Tory disdain and fear for the youth. You've done enough damage, move on.

@David_Bower 2 күн бұрын

A supermajority in the US Senate means that a motion will command 3/5 of the votes, allowing it to be put straight to vote without debate, thus preventing a filibuster. The term supermajority in regard to UK politics makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

@Silver-st2zq 2 күн бұрын

The Daily Mail would be my first choice for emergency use toilet paper.

@JacarandaMusic Күн бұрын

I wouldn’t even touch it for that.

@supernoodles91 Күн бұрын

I wouldn't even inlict the rag on my ringpiece never mind my eyes!

@Ayeright. Күн бұрын

There's a cost of living crisis (actually a Tory crisis!) you know? Why spend money on the Daily Hiel when you could use its little sister paper, The Metro, as its free?

@Nickbaldeagle02 Күн бұрын

No. You'll block your drains.

@Ayeright. Күн бұрын

The Daily Hiel's little sister paper, The Metro is a cost free alternative you could use during the cost of living crisis (actually known as a Tory crisis!).

@davidpinfold852 Күн бұрын

Quite frankly if I thought Genghis Khan had the best chance of beating the Tories I'd vote for him.

@TruthWillOut-hb9vc Күн бұрын

Vote them out then lock them up!

@colinstanton-fb4go Күн бұрын

Yes

@allenmontrasio8962 2 күн бұрын

The Daily Mail would have no problems with a tory supermajority or even a reform one. That's all there is to say on the subject.

@Silver-st2zq Күн бұрын

Exactly.

@ibexdnb2879 Күн бұрын

Vote Reform

@Jonnyonthespot123 Күн бұрын

@@ibexdnb2879 Why aren't there Conservative or Labour bots? It's almost like you're unelectable and Russia has to stoop very low to get votes!

@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Күн бұрын

@@ibexdnb2879Nobody is voting for Reform. Outside of GB News' social media interfaces, this private company led by the top 0.01% of wealth has no pull.

@nigelsynnott7344 Күн бұрын

@@ibexdnb2879 Why?

@Silver-st2zq 2 күн бұрын

The desperation from the Tories and the Tory leaning press is lovely to see 🍿😁

@taykitrleevitt4314 Күн бұрын

They're just projecting, given the level of spite that exists in the world of the Tory.

@lovejetfuel4071 Күн бұрын

Tories warning the public about Labour, is like the demolishing man warning you about the house builder

@user-dq5os4mq2v 2 күн бұрын

All labour has to do is get the money stolen by tories back.

@thedoctor4084 Күн бұрын

Yes put the profiteers in prison and find a way to get us back in the E.U.

@stephanguitar9778 Күн бұрын

And fund the NHS with an extra £350 million a week.

@TheSuperPsychoKiller Күн бұрын

And get proportional representation to prevent tories from winning seats.

@markherzog9484 2 күн бұрын

If 48/52 was a majority to take the U.K. out of the EU, and was described as ‘the will of the people’ then a Labour majority of 100-150 will be described as?

@collapsiblechair9112 2 күн бұрын

the will of anti-tory sentiment

@Evil_Dan999 Күн бұрын

Supermajority. Keep up! 😂

@ibexdnb2879 Күн бұрын

@@collapsiblechair9112Precisely. 😂

@jamonit7169 Күн бұрын

That 48/52 was in a referendum..

@swanvictor887 Күн бұрын

@@jamonit7169 erm....and a vote in an Election is....think about it....Buehller....Buehller....

@chrisj622 2 күн бұрын

Never listened to this woman before, I like her. Constructs debate well and knows her stuff.

@alexanderstefanov6474 Күн бұрын

No such thing as a supermajority in the UK

@sol2746 Күн бұрын

Voted Labour yesterday & then chuckled & went for a 🍺

@nicks4934 2 күн бұрын

The mail is toilet paper

@mohm7047 Күн бұрын

Talking of which, the DM editor Lord Ashcroft was hiding in a toilet when being questioned being chased about his tax affairs.

@hg82met Күн бұрын

Not even worthy for that purpose.

@TheSuperPsychoKiller Күн бұрын

The daily mail is for entertainment purposes not news.

@Ab-vw2sg 4 сағат бұрын

Not even for that use: it will make that body part MUCH DIRTIER.

@nothereandthereanywhere 2 күн бұрын

I'm not English, but even I know that SUPERmajority is a non sense. Why? A comfortable majority is what is needed, everything else is secondary with this political system. The members can be 'whipped' to vote for legislation, so as long as the party has (comfortable) majority, it is given. I'm not scared of this SUPERmajority thing.

@countycod123 2 күн бұрын

Who reads Daily Mail apart from it's blinkered ageing and dwindling readership. Cattle fodder for the Cattle

@davidscott4637 Күн бұрын

Ignorant to say the least

@amcc5887 Күн бұрын

Correct 💯👍

@malcolmmitchell6529 Күн бұрын

I'm 70 NEVER read mail or express, they are everything that's wrong in this country.

@MrBizteck Күн бұрын

I hate the rag but I believe it is the largest daily paper in the UK.

@countycod123 Күн бұрын

@MrBizteck yesterday's newspaper for yesterday's politics

@dansegelov305 2 күн бұрын

What is functionally the difference between an 80 seat majority and a 200 seat majority? Any majority above 20-25 gives the government almost complete free-reign to enact anything they want, so there's no real difference between 80 and 200.

@gerardmackay8909 2 күн бұрын

Absolutely they are just petrified they get wiped out. It’s a tactic apparently that worked well in a Queensland election in Australia where the poll lead of the party out in front was slashed as a result of the ‘don’t give them too much power’ tactic.

@theraljaxtin Күн бұрын

Not strictly true. The House of Lords is entitled to reject any policies that contradict/do not appear in the manifesto the government were elected on. So technically they can't just do 'anything'. Unfortunately the Lords is pretty toothless these days so this doesn't work in practice, especially with contemptuous politicians we've had over the last decade or so. We definitely need to reform parliament and the electoral system.

@johnbeechy Күн бұрын

a super M allows for more of the back benchers to take the Question Period off. with only a slight lead of a few seats the govt might fall due to a non confidence Vote.

@samhunter1205 Күн бұрын

@@johnbeechybut the OP asked what the difference was between a majority of 80 and one of 200, not the difference between 8 and 200. We all know with a very small majority a party is at risk of losing votes to a small number of rebels or to losing their majority through the death or disgrace of a few MPs. The 80 vs 200 comparison is pointing out the deafening hypocrisy of the Tory press, wetting themselves over a Starmer government only a few years after cuming in their pants about a Boris one.

@SuzanneJones-qy3zh Күн бұрын

Get these tories out

@evertonjuniorjones9484 Күн бұрын

The mail is a horrible and disgusting paper 😢

@stephanguitar9778 Күн бұрын

Promoting the petty wants of the mega rich and big business at the expense of its idiotic readers who desperately need a dose of socialism.

@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Күн бұрын

What mainstream paper isn't?

@aleph8888 Күн бұрын

Socialism is a bankrupt 19th century ideology. Get a new book.

@ru76224 Күн бұрын

Daily Mail is no reputable source, i gave up at that point.

@thecheesefactor Күн бұрын

The Daily Fail.

@swordplate777 2 күн бұрын

They didnt complain when tories got a massive majority in 2019 did they 🤔

@ilokivi Күн бұрын

44% of votes cast is not a majority.

@stephfoxwell4620 Күн бұрын

Wipeout to Help out folks.

@Kwippy Күн бұрын

The Tories have come in for a lot of stick lately and deservedly so. But people are ignoring who it was that enabled them to bring the country to its knees, and that was the British public. You voted for them, again and again, for 14 years. You get the government you deserve.

@user-yb9ww6lv7j Күн бұрын

The difference being, is that the civil service is clearly left wing and refused to do what the government wanted. With a Labour majority, you will get all sorts of extreme left ideology policies.

@SuezWSuezW Күн бұрын

@@user-yb9ww6lv7j Ooh, hardly! Talk to Owen Jones or, Oh Jeremy Corbyn, dear.

@user-yb9ww6lv7j Күн бұрын

@@SuezWSuezW Starmer never got rid of them, so lot are still on par with Corbyn.

@Dude-etiquette 2 күн бұрын

Bet Torries think super majority for Tories is not a problem

@mickreaddin4979 2 күн бұрын

Shhhh... don't mention anything about "bets".😂

@ItsANiceDaySometimes Күн бұрын

Labour is going to have a super massive majority due to this govt's idiocy. People WANT Labour to make big changes to get the UK back on track.

@paulbird3235 2 күн бұрын

Thank you Karen for your total honesty.

@robertsaunders6511 2 күн бұрын

I agree that we should all vote tactically but to vote tactically to keep the Tories out & drop them into 3rd place

@lizardtattoo1 Күн бұрын

Terrified that they & their views are going to be sidelined by reality.

@robertdarby6553 2 күн бұрын

Harold Wilson said that it was easier to manage the parliamentary Labour Party when he had a small majority (1964) than when he had a large one (1966). This was because those MPs who were discontented could express their discontent when there was a large majority, because they could do so without threatening the government, unlike than if there was a small majority. That said, I would like to see a large Labour majority because the Tories need to be told that the country is finished with their divisive policies - the victimisation of the poor and of immigrants, the endless corruption, some of which has come out during this campaign and the fact that they have left the country in a far worse state than what they inherited in 2010.

@johnholkham2420 2 күн бұрын

A majority of 20 is enough to dominate a Parliament. Why the Tories are worried is that Al the nice freebies their MPs used to get will disappear and donors will not waste their money on the Tories.

@swangelok Күн бұрын

They fear the Tory party will cease to exist

@martinmurphy9679 Күн бұрын

All Selfservatives together.

@annawildsville 2 күн бұрын

Supermajority? Superbullshit more like

@chunderground9880 Күн бұрын

I am lifelong conservative voter but it is now abundantly clear that labour and kier starmer need their day in the sun. If he holds to the middle ground I think he could be in power for the long run

@iskrajackal9049 Күн бұрын

At least you are honest now. Didn't vast inequality and abject child poverty resonate before?

@1erkyrob2 Күн бұрын

Get every Tory out.

@jackn4853 Күн бұрын

Would the Tories complain about a "super majority" if they were 20+% ahead? No, didn't think so.

@ewen666 2 күн бұрын

This was an absolutely amazing segment. Great callers and a fantastic host, more of this LBC! She’s informed polite and honest,

@RobinHarris-nf4yv Күн бұрын

Owen Jones thinks it excuses him from being a Tory enabler, which he surely is. His channel is 95% rants about Israel / Palestine conflict now…..but then being a comfortably off metropolitan elite, he hasn’t got to worry about paying for his heating

@Redsleather Күн бұрын

Owen Jones is a nasty, spiteful hypocrite who just doesn’t want to be wrong. His obsession with Corbyn has made him a Tory enabler; he can’t support any Labour leader who can achieve what his beloved Jezza never could. Actually win something. I actually believe Jones would rather have another 5 years of the Tories just out of spite. Labour are better off without his ‘support’

@slayerrocks2 Күн бұрын

He is a shill. He purports to support Labour until election time, then latches on to something to pillory them on.

@David_Bower Күн бұрын

He's doing it because he doesn't agree with many of Labour's positions, especially regarding Gaza, and because it's obvious to everyone that Labour are going to win comfortably anyway. Whether you agree with him, or not, he's only standing for what his believes.

@RobinHarris-nf4yv Күн бұрын

@@David_Bower Owen Jones is a metropolitan elite playing at politics. He is a self indulgent socialist. The millions of people suffering food and fuel insecurity aren’t spending their days worrying about a Middle East conflict over which we have zero control….they are worried about getting enough to eat and paying the bills

@johnmarvesley1355 2 күн бұрын

That list is going to be handy for those that want to oust Tory MP's. Work both ways.

@samuelaubrey2612 Күн бұрын

Well Carol, it's people like you that contributed towards the UK being where it is today. Congratulations on being a Tory voter. Bravo....

@Kris-fk2lb Күн бұрын

Absolutely true .

@kanedNunable 2 күн бұрын

liberal and tory coalition still gave us austerity.

@SlowhandGreg 2 күн бұрын

At least you got a rise in the bottom tax rate threshold, since 2016 that threshold has been eaten away by Tory chancellors and should be 1570 Also in 2010 the IMF and the EU were pedalling Austerity only the US didn't try it though everyone abandoned it by 2012. You kind of need context anyway since then the Lib-Dems have drifted back left and abandoned NeoLiberal economics.

@richybatty234 Күн бұрын

The Conservatives had a HUGE majority back when Johnson took over ... Labour were STILL able to challenge and ultimately overturn this majority mainly due to inept and corrupt Tory practices and no little intelligent debate and commonsense from Labour .

@joehorne2808 Күн бұрын

The Tories should be scared when telegraph readership is saying they want the party smashed to the ground.

@stephenbrazier8996 Күн бұрын

Tories had a significant majority last time around and that was a disaster. Two prime ministers later and people will literally wade through c**p to vote them out.

@jamesm1494 Күн бұрын

The Tories had a majority of 80 which should have meant they had no trouble enacting their policies. Why isn't this classed as a "supermajority" by them?

@Redsleather Күн бұрын

The Tories believe nothing actually applies to them, they’re above it all

@craphead9842 2 күн бұрын

Who reads the Daily mail and listens to Owen Jones.. LOL.... Tony cuenca

@monkeyboy8424 Күн бұрын

You can't trust a Prime Minister with a one inch forehead and doesn't know when to carry an umbrella.

@blazzz13 Күн бұрын

The same Mail that ran page after page on Rayner, yet have sweet FA to say about gamblegate. Cartoon paper for their cartoon seeking readership

@Sc25515 2 күн бұрын

No such thing.

@dw-yl3ln Күн бұрын

Always the same with these tories. No empathy, no self awareness. Never take a problem seriously until it affects them personally. Cry about it, Tories. You’re just another playground bully who crumbled when finally feeling the weight of the real world. If you’re strong, you’ll learn. But you’re not, so you won’t. As ever.

@jayjayaseelan7441 Күн бұрын

Daily Mail owner a NonDom?

@dub604 Күн бұрын

Think about this for a second... If Labour are in office for 20 years it will mean they won 4 elections in a row. What the Tories are saying is.. "Vote Labour and you'll be so happy that you'll keep voting for them".

@robertschriek1353 2 күн бұрын

they just care about themselves.

@thecheesefactor Күн бұрын

No such thing as a supermajority in Britain. A regular majority guarantees the legislation will pass, and that's it.

@darrenflaxman7665 Күн бұрын

First caller is absolutely right - a majority is a majority.

@stephenclark9917 2 күн бұрын

daily mail and Owen Jones - horseshoe politics.

@methanedirigible 2 күн бұрын

True tbf - so different, and yet so similar. Absolutism has never been popular in Britain.

@praguepersona9624 2 күн бұрын

@@methanedirigible It's not just Britain. It's the whole democratic world that is becoming polarised, deliberately in my opinion, by outside forces.

@kanedNunable 2 күн бұрын

they both dislike labour, but for different reasons. the mail because they wont gun down immigrant boats, jones because of gaza and them being too centrist.

@alexvince461 2 күн бұрын

Owen Jones does appear to be an egotistical and politically illiterate individual

@stevenwilliamson6236 2 күн бұрын

Luke Akehurst hasn't been ejected for antisemitism unlike thousands of actual Jews, so not consistent on that allegedly important issue.

@katrinabryce 2 күн бұрын

If the government had a majority of 1, then one back-bench rebel could block the government. If the government held every single seat in parliament, then there would be no opposition to hold the government to account. This is mathematically impossible in this election because none of the parties are contesting every seat. When the Labour opposition were holding the government to account in the previous Parliament, how many MPs did you actually hear from on a regular basis? Basically the shadow cabinet plus a few back-benchers who specialise in a specific issue like Stella Creasy on Payday loans. So, whether it is an 80 seat majority or a 200 seat majority, it isn't really going to make any practical difference. What will make a difference is whether the Tories or Lib Dems are the official opposition, and that is the real choice we have in this election.

@martinmurphy9679 Күн бұрын

I think the Mail are looking down the road to the next GE after this one. Labour could lose a fair number of seats in five years time and still have a majority. If the Tories are crushed this time, it's an awful long way back.

@katrinabryce Күн бұрын

@@martinmurphy9679 If it is like 1922 when the Liberal Party finished 3rd behind Labour, then nobody alive today will see a future Tory government.

@michaelgoode9555 Күн бұрын

There's nothing at all complicated about this. The tories are all too aware of how they abused a supermajority and how they would if they had the chance again. Their worry is that they judge Labour by their own standards of depravity and greed. It's a mistake most arrogant, entitled types make.

@mickreaddin4979 2 күн бұрын

I've often heard the term "supermajority" used in the American political system. As I understand it (willing to be corrected) a supermajority describes one party being in charge of the Senate, Congress and the White House.

@natcain Күн бұрын

A radio station that lets the caller speak without interruptions and with respect. Try listening to Talk radio!

@jezlawrence720 2 күн бұрын

OK this is completely irrelevant but i really like the matching eye shadow, top, and headphone highlights, lol

@swanvictor887 Күн бұрын

lol.....a dozen militant feminists have just fainted with horror. When they wake up, expect e-mails!!

@danielcarter94 Күн бұрын

No. You are so wrong. Did the Rwanda bill go through with their 80-seat majority? Stop giving this supermajority nonsense oxygen, please ffs.

@anthonygrayson7753 Күн бұрын

While I despise the Tories and Reform, I observed back in 2019 how unhealthy it was that Johnson secured an 80 seat majority with only 43% of those who voted actually backing him. Ironically, he called it the "Brexit" election when 57% of those who voted actually picked anti-Brexit parties, but there we are. Now we face the prospect of Labour securing a super majority of 150 - 300 with a similar, or even lesser percentage of those who vote. I just pray the Lib Dems beat the Tories to become the official opposition. Main take: our voting system is no longer fit for purpose and we need PR!

@jordan-kj1bh Күн бұрын

Every vote that isn’t tactical in a marginal seat will end up getting or keeping a Tory in power Vote tactically Get the Tories OUT !!

@thequeenofspades Күн бұрын

Why did the Tories not have a problem when they had an 80 seat majority?

@indarys110 19 сағат бұрын

Starmer's already ruled out PR, which means Labour will win, then eventually lose again. And then we'll end up back where we are now in 30 yrs time 🙄

@Redsleather Күн бұрын

I don’t remember the Tories complaining in 2019, funny that 🤔

@Totalinternalreflection Күн бұрын

Super majority is an American political term, it had no meaning in the UK whatsoever. Why parrot deliberate tory misinformation. ?

@brianferguson7840 Күн бұрын

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SUPERMAJORITY" OUTSIDE OF THE USA !!! OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. ANY PARTY CAN ONLY HAVE A "MAJORITY" BIG OR SMALL.

@JoannaHammond Күн бұрын

It doesn't matter what the majority size is, a decent majority is all that is needed to pass your legislation. That is how our system works.

@grantbeerling4396 Күн бұрын

No such thing as a 'super majority'. Anything over +30 seats is a workable majority.

@jsd8981 Күн бұрын

It's scare tatic by the tories to try and make sure nobody else's can have a look at what's on the books left behind...

@shuggiemcg1 Күн бұрын

Why are you promoting the idea of a Super majority? There is no such thing in UK politics! You either have a majority or you don't!

@BennyJlakid Күн бұрын

Dowden on Sky this morning said the ultimate aim is for the conservators os to have an absolute majority. Total hypocrites.

@Redsleather Күн бұрын

Dowden will be out of a job next weekend, all being well 🙏

@mrm7058 Күн бұрын

If you are concerned about large majorities, you support proportional representation.

@kizzmiaz Күн бұрын

In a way they handed this to Labour. People aren't so much voting for Labour as voting against the Tories.

@SamLowryDZ-015 Күн бұрын

'Supermajority' is not a thing in UK politics. Yet another attempt to Americanise the political system.

@Stephanie-wf6xr Күн бұрын

Poo in the tap water, rivers

@Peter-Ac Күн бұрын

Sometimes when I am in a public place where newspapers are available for customers, I pick up the daily mail and check the date against my iPhone, this is probably the only accurate information printed in this rag

@angelamcnaught7540 Күн бұрын

Absolutely no chance of labour going far left

@songscoops4205 Күн бұрын

It's the country who should care not the Tories..

@Batters56 2 күн бұрын

I saw that headline of Tory tactical voting. Is it just for our reader in Brighton and Hove… vote Green.

@martinquinn9007 Күн бұрын

So a 80 seat majority is ok daily mail

@johnkeilloh2682 Күн бұрын

A majority is a majority regardless if it’s 10 or 210

@leadfree5 Күн бұрын

I think the lady who doesn't agree with labour policies seems not to have noticed there are hardly any differences between Tory and Labour !

@michaelcolbourn6719 Күн бұрын

Can all the journalists and broadcasters stop banging on about this supermajority nonsense

@LeeKelly-dj4rf Күн бұрын

We should take heed of Rishi Sunak, and ignore his advice by voting anyone except Conservative on 4th July.

@giaimojessica Күн бұрын

In 2024 what kind of people buy the daily mail? People are desperate

@SoulCellarGlasgow 23 сағат бұрын

You can hear the racism in that geriatric Tory voters annunciations.

@prideofdurham4776 Күн бұрын

Labour 350 seats Reform 300 seats Tories 0 seats That is an impossibility but what a thought!

@Nat6999 Күн бұрын

Labour 400 seats, Lib Dem 68 seats, Conservative 50 seats is better, so they aren't the opposition, even better if the SNP & others get more than the Tories.

@thatdawghouse Күн бұрын

Starmer is even worse than the current excuse for Tories, if thats even possible.. smh

@DoneDunning Күн бұрын

It's the daydreaming about the ozone layer that gets me.

@snowyowel7961 11 сағат бұрын

Because starmer is a weak appeaser he will have his strings pulled.

@orchidhouse297 Күн бұрын

I've always understood super majority as a 60% majority. It is thought to neutralise the 'can't be bothered' to better reflect the electorate position. Less that 50% of the electorate voted actively for Brexit. With the changes in demographics the brexit vote is becoming less valid as the months go by.

@lesterfalcon1350 Күн бұрын

Starmer wanted PR 4 years ago, he won't now, as they'll have a massive majority. YouGov has Labour getting about 36% of votes, but 65% of the seats, with Tories on 18% and 16% of the seats, LibDems on 15% of the votes and 10% seats, Reform on 17% of votes and less than a percent of seats, Greens with 8% of votes and less than a percent of sets, yet SNP just 3% of votes and seats. So Labour get about twice as many seats as they get votes. Hopefully the disparity may be just the upset to get people taking it more seriously. Cleary Farage is going to go off on one, Lib Dems have it in their manifesto, and now the Tories are in the minority, they'll start sticking their oar in, now it suits them. So many people are sick of a 2 party system that don't represent their views, and their has long been a feeling of politics is broken.