I don't know why people were complaining about your english, it's better than a lot of people in the U.S.A ! keep up the great content, it's extremely interesting and unique!
@railgap7 ай бұрын
better than my French of German! We - the USA - are not the center of the world, folks.
@cameronmechan16467 ай бұрын
for real though
@edibandulan52667 ай бұрын
I can't understand anything that black people say in Bushwick, New York.
@ZDM3147 ай бұрын
I understood them just fine
@luminousfractal4207 ай бұрын
His english is great -welshman
@aegis3d7 ай бұрын
Thanks MIchel for this very interesting content! From your previous video I understand there were some complaints on your English, but I find it very clear and comprehensible. Some of my coworkers are much harder to understand!
@notbfg90007 ай бұрын
It's the most stereotypical French accent and I love it :)
@continental_drift7 ай бұрын
Its sad that we are nearly at 2024 and some people haven't figured out how to use Closed Captions.
@jesusisunstoppable44387 ай бұрын
@@continental_drift I was Literally going to say the same thing.
@notbfg90007 ай бұрын
@@continental_drift I know how closed captions work, but the situation has to be very bad to make me bother to go click on a thing. Realistically I have the phone/laptop on a shelf and doing the dishes or soldering stuff or installing software on another computer while having the clip in the corner of my eye.
@luigiaqua22637 ай бұрын
It’s perfect froglish.
@billyjoel223597 ай бұрын
First looks like an infrared seeker from either an Igla or Verba (probably Igla). It's a rolling airframe missile so the fact that it's a linear array of infrared sensing elements makes more sense than in an Iskander. The missile "rolls" at a relatively high rate (900+ RPM) and as it rolls it's building a virtual image from the rolling action of the missile This was a common technique with early "4th generation" surface to air systems that were prior to the ubiquity of the larger 128x128 or 56x56 focal plane arrays you see in more modern imaging missile systems from the early 2000s and didn't require as much processing power and techniques like this were a lot cheaper and production volume ready than true larger format FPAs in the late 80s and 90s. The same technique is applied in the US Navy RIM-116 except it also includes a pair of inline interferometers for RF detection/fusing against radiating targets like active seeker anti-ship missiles. The RIM-116 also has a much better linear array; 80 elements in a 80x1 focal array.
@user-lb8bg6kj9m7 ай бұрын
wow the airframe rolls at 1000 rpm ! so that's a refresh rate of about 16 Hz. it probably does some interpolation between frames. still shocked that an airframe would be rolling at that speed. if the missile is not centripitally balanced, it would be doing a cork-screw through the air.
@txm1007 ай бұрын
I'm by no means an expert, but the rest of the components don't look like from these 4th gen SA missiles. They look way too modern. Why would you use old sensors but modern SMD boards?
@billyjoel223597 ай бұрын
@@user-lb8bg6kj9m I've seen some open source documents that put the RIM-116 rotation rate in the 1000-1500 RPM ballpark and videos I've seen of the test rig for the seeker subsystem have it spinning at a very high rate, easily 20+ revolutions per second.
@billyjoel223597 ай бұрын
@@txm100 Partial modernization of older systems is pretty common as manufacturing techniques improve while you maintain the original system design. Largely because the testing and verification of weapons is extensive and time consuming. Upgrading too many things at once or changing core operating principles (even if the end result in the same) is generally seen as requiring repeating previously done verification and test programs because you've effectively built a new system. For this example, upgrading amplifier assemblies is easy to verify and show that it won't change how the core system works or functions, but replacing the seeker with a full-format FPA and a totally different digital imaging system is not equivalent and why you see old technology persist in either its existing flavor attached to new subsystems or in slightly different flavors as manufacturing techniques improve. Designing systems and building them is the easy part, the hard part is test and evaluation and making sure it works as close to the system goal as possible 100% of the time.
@AlexKarasev7 ай бұрын
@@billyjoel22359 An underrated comment. Any time system processing is changed in a non-trivial way, there are also security risks - not just information leaking but also software or hardware injection. I've heard that this is a bad enough problem in civilian space, to say nothing of this.
@nicoras88037 ай бұрын
The big micro chip is definitely not from a vacuum cleaner. Few things need a gyro. Definitely mil quality. Phase modulator can also detect angle of approach. Beautiful, I used to have a job designing that stuff when I was a younger man. Those connectors are very expensive. Silicone is also used for vibration suppression. That thing must be subject to extreme vibration at the speed it approaches. Thank you, it was very interesting. It is a bit more modern than when I was in defence research in the mid/late seventies, where angle of approach and speed was measured using Doppler radar.
@tedmoss6 ай бұрын
A bit more modern? that's a good one, probably from the early 80's.
@joenicotera29914 ай бұрын
Optical or not, it's still an inertial gyro. So, the entire board can only do the one thing. It's a math exam..."I want to know my velocity." "Well, Sir, we can only know velocity if we measure velocity over a span of time." "Do we know my velocity yet?" "No sir, we only know what your velocity was. It isn't possible that your velocity is that any more." "Then why did you bother to calculate it?" "Because you are the boss Sir."
@wolpumba40997 ай бұрын
*Summary* - *Intro* - 0:10: Received two packets from Ukraine. - 0:13: First packet from Kiev, second from Dnipro. - *Optical Sensor from 9M727 Iskander Missile* - 0:29: Optical sensor, part of a Russian Iskander missile 9M727. - 0:48: Contains 16 photocells, likely infrared photodiodes. - 0:55: Bonding wires are missing. - 1:01: Four identical PCBs, each with four amplifiers. - 1:24: Central part connects 16 signals, likely with a single output. - 1:53: Ceramic IC, Russian made, dated 2004, possibly encodes the 16 signals. - 2:09: Plans to reverse engineer and possibly restore the sensor. - *3-Axis Fiber Optic Gyroscope (probably from Tornado MLRS)* - 2:45: Three-axis fiber optic gyroscope, likely from a Russian missile. - 3:37: Contains a roll of fiber optic using the Sagnac effect. - 3:44: Connected to an infrared LED. (Superluminescent LED DL-CS5153A, 1550nm, 40nm FWHM, 10..35mW, DenseLight, InP fab in Singapore) - 4:04: Measures light delay due to rotation, using a coupler and phase modulator. - 4:19: Phase modulator compensates for delay caused by Sagnac effect. - 4:48: Circuit includes three ADCs and three DACs. - 5:18: FPGA board from Altera, Cyclone II model. - 5:28: Board removed from assembly, wires cut. - 6:15: Plans to reverse engineer and possibly test the device. - 6:00: Noted missing components, possibly power supply. - 6:05: Temperature sensor observed. - 6:30: Intends further investigation and reverse engineering. - *Conclusion* - 6:31: Thanks viewers and anticipates a future video about the sensor. *Summary of top comments as of 2023-12-30* - Some commenters debate the origin of the optical sensor, suggesting it might be from an Igla or Verba man-portable air-defense system (MANPADS) rather than from an Iskander missile due to the rolling airframe missile design and the type of infrared sensing elements used. A few commenters express doubt that the first sensor is from an Iskander missile, with one noting that Iskander is a ballistic missile and would not have an infrared seeker. - There is a discussion about the use of older sensor technologies with modern circuit boards, with one commenter explaining that partial modernization is common to avoid extensive retesting while maintaining the core system design. - One commenter identifies the chips on a PCB as output isolators, suggesting specific models and noting the data path from the FPGA to these chips. - A detailed identification of a chip is provided, including its code, pointing out that it is an Altera/Intel FPGA. - There is a mention of a fiber optic gyroscope potentially being made from low-cost optics, with admiration for its construction. - There is an observation about the continued use of PTFE insulated wires in the designs. - Several comments note the reliance on Western components in Russian military electronics, with some expressing amazement that no domestic components are used and others remarking on the obsolescence of certain parts.
@TheLittleDeath17 ай бұрын
No washing machines had been harmed in the production of that rocket.
@TheLittleDeath17 ай бұрын
Selfmade chaff
@bigdevil736 ай бұрын
@@TheLittleDeath1😂10/10
@danobrien36016 ай бұрын
I once was involved in the early fibre gyroscope development as an engineer way back in the 80's .. gotta say I'm impressed with this Russian version . Looks very well made and the block diagram shows very advanced processing
@davidparrot46697 ай бұрын
encore des circuit que l'on ne voit pas ailleurs, c'est fou ... un grand merci pour le partage c'est toujours un réel plaisir.
@Mike-H_UK7 ай бұрын
Excellent. You obviously have very good sources.
@MyMcMichael7 ай бұрын
The optical sensor is probably from a dryer to sense the wet clothes. And the gyroscope from a washing machine to sense if there are vibrations or so.
@0_7417 ай бұрын
Разбаланс в стиральных машинах определяется не по акселерометрам, а по величине пульсаций напряжения на обмотке таходатчика на двигателе. После амплитудного детектора измеряется АЦП и определяется величина разбаланса
@gustavevilleneuvedehoff-un54597 ай бұрын
@@0_741ну ты секреты-то сразу не выдавай - секрет починки стиралки, это тебе не головку самонаведения разобрать, это дело серьезное!
@BertoldVdb7 ай бұрын
Almost, the gyro senses the rotation of the washing drum.
@rogeratygc78957 ай бұрын
@@BertoldVdb There have to be enormously easier ways to do that!
@donnie15817 ай бұрын
Сатира@@0_741
@henryyoung71847 ай бұрын
I was not aware that FPGAs were used in washing machines, as Ursula Van Der Crazy assures us ;)
@vladimirassalukas67267 ай бұрын
Yes yes in washing maschines and in toilets, sure 😂😂
@otofoto7 ай бұрын
Reusing components for production is not practical.
@henryyoung71847 ай бұрын
@@otofoto Tell that to the un-elected EU technocrat who clearly confuses a spin cycle and media spin ;)
@KokoroKatsura7 ай бұрын
@@henryyoung7184reported
@otofoto7 ай бұрын
@@henryyoung7184 In her defence most in EU clearly couldn’t understand why TerroRussians are stealing washing machines and toilets. The concept is so alien that such ideas come up.
@ArsenioDev7 ай бұрын
Michel, you're in the same region of ebay as I am! I was eyeing these to tear down after I had hands on time with them in Kyiv earlier this year. That FOG is from the TORNADO MLRS, I tore down four while over there
@lelabodemichel51627 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information regarding the FOG.
@hamzaarif72497 ай бұрын
@@lelabodemichel5162make a video anti tank missile teardown special request
@mojevalka7 ай бұрын
do you have some videos as well? it's quite interesting to see what's inside
@danobrien36016 ай бұрын
I thought if it was Russian ..Houston we have a problem .. looks very advanced
@Anton-dl7me5 ай бұрын
@@danobrien3601 it could be foreign ICs and sensors assembled and/or lacquered by russians
@christopherleubner66337 ай бұрын
The first sensor looks a lot like a midwave IR spectrometer sensor. These used ferroelectric BST crystals mounted in a linear array. The light source is chopped blanked or otherwise moddulated.
@targetmann100ify7 ай бұрын
IN laymans term please ..LAYMANS term 🙂🙃🙂
@lindsaycole84097 ай бұрын
So that would mean it's used to target on laser-painted targets?
@herauthon7 ай бұрын
IR > Heat seeking ; or Heat imaging (like FLIR) ?
@Exciting__Electronics7 ай бұрын
Very impressive, thanks for sharing 👍🏻
@vasiliynkudryavtsev7 ай бұрын
5:44 The correct code for chip in center is "EP2C8Q208I8N", Cyclone II Altera/Intel FPGA.
@MrPopel7 ай бұрын
Pretty old one !
@marcusaurelius34876 ай бұрын
@@MrPopelwhy use the newest if old works as well
@MrPopel6 ай бұрын
@@marcusaurelius3487 Because the old one are runing out of stock.
@berbac19767 ай бұрын
Thanks for these wonderful videos.
@eumenius7 ай бұрын
Nice build quality. Parts are indeed not sourced from microwave ovens.
@cogoid7 ай бұрын
This gyroscope unit is used in the Russian Soyuz-TMA spaceship and also in the military missiles. It costs over $20K.
@ItsTristan1st7 ай бұрын
Must be from washing machines. Ursula said so and she is so very smart.
@rdengin7 ай бұрын
This one is from washing machine
@rzhevsky49347 ай бұрын
@@rdengin главное верить! Ведь телеящег не врёт!!1
@mrshyman12577 ай бұрын
@@rzhevsky4934А ВВС ....точно не врет.
@marcuskoen75767 ай бұрын
very interesting teardown, thank you very much, sir
@PetrGladkikh7 ай бұрын
4:34 Part number is МИОМ-001 - ends with "ОМ" which is indeed may be "optical modulator".
@cogoid7 ай бұрын
The official name is "Multifunctional Integrated Optical Module". The stuff inside includes more than just the modulators. This is one of the most critical to the performance of the entire gyroscope components. The know-how of the manufacturer is precisely in these optical parts, while the electronics, as we see here, is built with the ordinary off-the-shelf components. These gyroscopes are (or at least were until recently) sold internationally, and a rather detailed information about them is openly available. Although the manufacturing is done in Russia, the company is actually half owned by foreign investors.
@teodor4ik1837 ай бұрын
Its cyrilic so not exact 😊
@TheAndyBig7 ай бұрын
@@teodor4ik183 In Cyrillic the abbreviation will look the same - Многофункциональный Интегрированный Оптический Модуль - МИОМ :)
@deplorablesecuritydevices7 ай бұрын
Invaluable just to see the high shock electronics packaging. Thanks for sharing.
@dmitrysmirnov91887 ай бұрын
I doubt the first infrared sensor is from Iskander indeed. It is likely to be from one of the Russian surface-to-air manpad, like Igla or Verba.
@TR_P7 ай бұрын
Yes, the ring at the bottom seems a mount to the airframe, and it is far too sub diameter for iskander.
@ItsTristan1st7 ай бұрын
Also the construction technique looked more like something for lower cost systems.
@VasiliyLomovoy7 ай бұрын
То что блогер с 20-тью тысячами подписчиков получил в распоряжение часть искандера - несусветная чушь сама по себе. Вообще, надо сообщить, для тех кто не в курсе - Украинский и Российский ВПК работали бок о бок до середины 2010-х годов, на протяжении 90 лет (со врем образования СССР) и поэтому на Украине полно компонентов используемых в российском вооружении производимом со времен СССР, но КОНЕЧНО не в последних образцах вооружения, которые уже разрабатывались или модернизировались в России в 21 веке. с оглядкой на тот факт ,что украинцы продадут какие угодно ВАШИ секреты, и не важно 0 друзья вы их, или вы их враги.
@ItsTristan1st7 ай бұрын
@@u666sa not at all. And I have quite a bit of exposure to military electronics. It looks like commercial spec construction, almost from a drone or something like that. It is definitely not from an Iskander.
@anatolijku72427 ай бұрын
@@VasiliyLomovoy ты чета не совсем понял... жители Северска жалуются царю что у них совсем плохо с врачами. и записали челобитную. ты забывши совсем что золото в ракетах - это нищета пенсионеров. нищенские зарплаты и просрочка у Пятерочки. твое фуфлогонство на теме убийства славян засчитано.
@KeritechElectronics7 ай бұрын
Nice video - an interesting glimpse into military electronics, and a nice comment on Western-Russian military industrial complex.
@786otto7 ай бұрын
1550 MN Superluminescent led diode made by Superlum in Ireland
@TheAtomstrike7 ай бұрын
the last frames show places with missing details. There are traces of thermal paste left. It can be assumed that there were electric heaters that, together with temperature sensors, provided thermal stabilization
@FPV-questions7 ай бұрын
Thanks for touching this important topic. Of course, FPGAs are not taken from fridges or washing machines. They get delivered to Russia, Iran and other countries.
@электроник1987 ай бұрын
плис делали еще в ссср. обидно что в мире считают что у нас в России немогут делать электронику. Я как бывший работник завода который делал электронные компоненты скажу, у нас упор идет не на уменьшение и быстродействие а на надежность. Я лично принимал партии компонентов после изготовление и каждый элемент из партии проверялся под микроскопом. Да это дорого и энергоемко , за то на выходе получаются приборы которые могут пережить огромные ударные нагрузки и сохранить параметры.
@user-nw3qx7gp6s7 ай бұрын
FPGA chips are manufactured in Russia, look for Google 5578TC094, for example, so everything has its time, perhaps in the next review, when Misha will disassemble the next block from the rocket, we will see it there.
@user-sr6pi5lp3q7 ай бұрын
@@электроник198совок в электронике был лютым говном. Рашка может клепать разве что отсталую военку.
@FPV-questions7 ай бұрын
@@электроник198 зараз використовують 40нм процес, це хіба з електронним мікроскопом сидіти ггг. І ці плати рашка купує з-за кордону
@hamper30497 ай бұрын
@@электроник198 I've never heard of "Altera Cyclone II" being made in the USSR.
@SandorPipei7 ай бұрын
5:44 At the bottom right corner above the ADC the header it look like a JTAG header. It will be intresting to see if there are any kind of fpga configuration eeporm where the bitsteam for the FPGA is stored. I'm sure that even if exists it's content is encrypted. Merci beaucoup d'avoir partagé ces démontages avec nous.
@vov4ick7 ай бұрын
This is usual FOG, which are commercially available, i think there are no incredible interesting things inside.
@vasiliynkudryavtsev7 ай бұрын
One of nearby SOIC8 chips is EPCS - the special Altera chip to store FPGA config.
@fredfred23637 ай бұрын
FPGA config data isn't typically encrypted. However reverse engineering the config is very time consuming (although it shouldn't be), as each bit of data is simply enabling latches in the logic structure. It's just logic after all...
@bertkoerts39917 ай бұрын
Fascinating! I’m sure to follow your channel! Curious if these parts were expensive. I recently discovered the practical use of FPGA boards (I’m an hobbyist) and was recently explaining to my wife how well suited they are for robots (which a missile in essence is.. ) Thanks for your content! 👍😊
@hikistewart40406 ай бұрын
I'm curious, did your wife appreciate it?
@jansejnost31127 ай бұрын
Perfect work. Thank You !
@fredfred23637 ай бұрын
It would have been interesting to see the optics in front of the linear sensor. Unusual way of making the gyro. We use different techniques in aircraft avionics nowadays, using prisms instead of optical fibre. Fibre can move and vibrate causing jitters to the data rate. Imagine a police car siren coming towards you with a loose mounting for the siren. The tone wouldn't be pure. Same kinda concept.
@user-km8nf7fc4g7 ай бұрын
Оптоволокно не свободно. Оно находится в компаунде. Оптоволокно изотропно по длине. И это дешевле, чем использовать призмы, для которых надо еще сварить изотропное стекло. Fiber cannot move. It is filled with compound. The optical fiber is isotropic in length. And this is cheaper than using prisms, for which isotropic glass must also be welded.
@victoryfirst28787 ай бұрын
I would bet you Michel, that the missing parts were taken off on purpose. SOMETIMES to much information can be a hindrance from victory on the battlefield. But that is only an assumption and not a fact. I like the videos fella. JOB WELL DONE !!!!
@dinkc647 ай бұрын
Very interesting! You know, I think it would be nice to try to get one of those decoy dart missiles that come out of the iskander.
@ArsenioDev7 ай бұрын
Annoyingly hard to find, trust me I tried to buy one while there but no dice.
@joeds37757 ай бұрын
One wonders if we could start a tiktok thing for influencers to go catch them...
@mostlymessingabout7 ай бұрын
@@joeds3775 they might trip on UXO. wouldn't want that on your conscience
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
Ага, видимо кому захотелось стать мёртвым😂😂😂 "добыть захотелось ложные ракеты"😂😂😂 смешно, да.
@quantasplay7 ай бұрын
@@jenix102, я далек от темы ракетного вооружения, но мне интересно, что за "приманки" выпускает Искандер и почему их так сложно достать
@bobojamba7 ай бұрын
Без МГТФ ни одно изделие не обходится :)
@Mr.Leeroy6 ай бұрын
и гребаные винты под плоскую отвертку
@woopsserg6 ай бұрын
Меня убила платка с одной 591КН3 которую запихнули чтобы была хоть одна российская радиодеталь. Куча проводов и стеклянных изоляторов чтобы одну хренову микросхему мультиплексора в DIP корпусе присобачить. Запросто могли на одну из платок усилителей запихнуть в SMD корпусе. При том судя по датам на платах, 591КН3 минимум 10 лет на складах провалялась.
@biluser6 ай бұрын
Вот почему Россию считают отсталой почитайте ваши комментарии и западные ! Вы будущее России ? Нет война идет чтобы таких малограмотных мы больше в нашей стране не производили ! Привет из СССР
@someonethatuveneverseen31586 ай бұрын
не, оно работает, и это главное. но меня смущает компоновка оптического датичка (четыре наполовину свободные платы усилителей, а внутри на отъ..ись мультиплексор в дип корпусе, к нему веер практически не уложенного одноцветного мгтф'а) и в целом толщина текстолита. да, я разводил платы под многовыводные смд компоненты, да, я знаю, что ее однослойной сделать нереально, но кмон, почему у двухслойной платы толщина такая мелкая? такое ощущение, что это тот же текстолит, на котором я дома всякие поделки собираю. умели же делать нормально, достаточно посмотреть на советские военные изделия: толстые платы, прочное шасси, где надо, чтобы не было путаницы, вместо мгтф'а стоит мс какой нибудь и прочее, прочее прочее. ну, либо это я дурак и чего то не понимаю)
@iguigu29666 ай бұрын
не забывайте про гиперзвуковые скорости и ускорения. Это не смартфон.@@woopsserg
@dzv87997 ай бұрын
The first sensor is very interesting!
@vysmirnov7 ай бұрын
5:45 - EP2C8Q208I8N - Cyclone 2 (EP2C), 8k LE (8), PQFP-208 (Q208), industrial temp range (i), speed grade 8 (8)
@whatsmyusername12317 ай бұрын
Yikes! I hope Altera didn't actively help Russia develop their missiles....
@kityacat54197 ай бұрын
Hope it will not help anyone
@lindsaycole84097 ай бұрын
@@whatsmyusername1231 That is a very old FPGA design (going back to 2005 I think). So available for a long period before sanctions. Really need to see the manufacturing date code to see if it was actually imported by bypassing sanctions.
@dimchan90966 ай бұрын
@@lindsaycole8409 as a Russian engineer, I will tell you that sanctions do not work, Analog Devices, National Instruments and much more are freely imported into Russia not only through friendly countries, but also directly :)
@lindsaycole84096 ай бұрын
@@dimchan9096 Yes, be much easier to control machine tools and their parts and consumables than 50 dollar FPGAs. Commercial FPGA and general purpose CPUs can do everything you want to these days. Not like the 80s and 90s where sophisticated weapons needed high-end specialist asics.
@true.is.around7 ай бұрын
90 % of russian weapons made by US/UK/France ... so great work...
@Phantom-rb8yv16 күн бұрын
And why can't European weapons compete with Russian ones if everything comes from there? Question after question. By the way, the Soviet Union already had chip production and the production of other electronic components. It amuses me to hope that all of this is based on European technology.
@poll1986Ай бұрын
great video, what is your experience? do you work in defence company ( Thales maybe )?
@chilebike65567 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. Very interesting.
@robbypolter66897 ай бұрын
Altera is originally a US company and was bought by Intel in 2015. To this day, despite sanctions, Germany still supplies electronic components to Russia or has them produced there. Similar or almost identical parts can be found in Ukrainian rockets of the Tochka-U type. Originally from Russian production.
@sirdm90327 ай бұрын
I have a friend from Russia who works at a factory producing such microcircuits, somewhere beyond the Urals.
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
В россии нет производства микросхем западными фирмами. Автомобили западные собираются, но микросхемы нет. Только русские.
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
@@sirdm90321:55 590кн3 Светлана, Санкт- Петербург. Рядом с финляндией😂
@gordonwelcher95987 ай бұрын
KZfaq should require all videos to include at least one kitty.
@msylvain597 ай бұрын
If you do not see a cat in a given youtube video, it's because he's busy controlling the camera.
@fredfred23637 ай бұрын
LOL! Yep!
@thedownwardmachine7 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this interesting video. Your English is fine, it is the world’s most common second language so there is a lot of variation in accents and thus it is normal to encounter it spoken imperfectly yet effectively. Cheers and happy new year to you!
@FixitFrank7 ай бұрын
Awesome video thank you
@moimeme48407 ай бұрын
Salut Michel selon ton avis c'est une conception moderne selon leurs capacitée ? ou c'est un montage vitement conçut et peut précit ?
@ivan._._7 ай бұрын
Military equipment does not require modern technology. The most important thing is reliability. There is a lot of gold on the board.
@GOLD-ei3qh7 ай бұрын
What kind of washing machine they are taken from?
@sheikbombalot57814 ай бұрын
Very cool! Beautiful hardware.
@Mzale7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the educational resources 🙏
@viruslab17 ай бұрын
very interesting, please continue
@koopalad47 ай бұрын
super la vidéo 👍👍
@randyearles16346 ай бұрын
well done! thank you for the video.
@paulnunya34297 ай бұрын
Great video. 👍
@dmitriysavelyev80597 ай бұрын
Exactly the same sensor I have seen inside my washing machine
@Hepad_7 ай бұрын
Michel, ça te dérange pas de montrer ton adresse comme ça ?
@AIexanderHartdegen7 ай бұрын
il a masqué l'adresse du vendeur, mais pas la sienne. Ce gars est solide comme un rock.
@Hepad_7 ай бұрын
@@AIexanderHartdegen C'est un total gigachad, qu'on se le dise
@toxicbisht43447 ай бұрын
you are amazing Keep uploading videos
@konektocom7 ай бұрын
I respect your knowledge.
@nibiruofficial44637 ай бұрын
Стиральные машины не нашли?
@user-tn6tb9rl6c7 ай бұрын
А эта микросхема в какой стиральной Машине стоит?
@78RSI7 ай бұрын
Украденной в суржикстане!
@user-py3rl3zf6x7 ай бұрын
@@78RSI не украденной, а трофейной.
@78RSI7 ай бұрын
@@user-py3rl3zf6x Даже не трофейной, а присоединенной.
@rzhevsky49347 ай бұрын
На этой стиралке изнacиLOVEали ни одну аксанку😂
@MrGoloder7 ай бұрын
В бюджетоотмывочной
@georgeprout427 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with your English my friend, complaints probably come from non native English speakers. Merci mon ami!
@Chris_Grossman7 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you.
@user-folk19877 ай бұрын
Ммм, родной мгтф
@andreiminin47387 ай бұрын
Сейчас такого нет, хороший провод, изоляция температуру держит не хуже силикона и прочнее
@ggrisha877 ай бұрын
А вот и зеленоградцы подтянулись!
@user-yh9kx4dy8p7 ай бұрын
@@andreiminin4738 В смысле нет? Вон на авито и прочих барахолках его полно. Можно новый напрямую с завода заказать.
@alexanderandreev71517 ай бұрын
@@andreiminin4738 В магазинах навалом, хоть на озоне заказывай. Любой калибр, что есть по госту.
@user-zx5mo1zf9v7 ай бұрын
КТО ТО ЖЕ НАРУШАЕТ СТАБИЛЬНОСТЬ. КОМУ ОНА НЕ НУЖНА. А ТУТ ДЕЛО ДОХОДИТ ДО ТЕХНИЧЕСКИХ СРЕДСТВ. КТО ОБЕСПЕЧИТ?! ГЛУБИННАЯ НАНАЦИЯ ЗЗЕВАЕТ, КРОМЕ КАК РАПРЕССИЯМИ ТИХУЮ ГАВАНЬ НЕ ОБЕСПЕЧИТЬ. НЕ ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ГНАТЬ НА КОГО ГЛАВНОЕ ЗНАТЬ, ГДЕ ДОВЕРЯТЬ НЕ СТОИТ. ЧЕМ. НО КОГДА НАДО КЕМ НАДО ПРЕДСТАВИШЬСЯ, С КЕМ УГОДНО ДОГОВОРИШЬСЯ И ЧТО УГОДНО ДОСТАНЕШЬ. ИБО НЕТ ЦЕНЫ ДОПУСКАМ КОГДА ПРИНЦЫПЫ НАРУШАЮТСЯ, НАЧИНАЯ С МОРАЛЬНЫХ И НА ВСЕ-ПРО-ВСЕ ВЫТЕКАЮЩИЕ. И НАПОСЛЕДОК: ВИБ ПРОБОВАЛИ ЭТО КЛЕПАТЬ, А НЕ С ДИВАНОВ ТРЕНДЕТЬ.
@magnifikus37 ай бұрын
Interesting to see, that there is no single domestical part, its all powered by intel and analog devices...
@dsfs179877 ай бұрын
it is even "funnier" if you know that some custom parts aren't even made in russia
@artip7777 ай бұрын
Altera were good stuff back in time before Intel bought them and became piece of overpriced shits. Same happened to Xilinx.
@HansCloos-fy8nq7 ай бұрын
"Borrowing" technology by Russia/USSR is already a tradition. They are a few years behind in development and they put Western/Chinese silicon structures in their ridiculous housings - true. But in the end, they effectively create a deadly weapon and kill innocent people with it. This is what they are really good at and this is their true nature.
@mullerstephan7 ай бұрын
and probably most are fabricated not in the West, but in China
@GVGVIT7 ай бұрын
@@dsfs17987 would not be surprised if it's made by jlcpcb or similar service.
@paulpaul8287 ай бұрын
Bonjour, merci pour la vidéo, j'ai tendu l'oreille tout le long, mais je n'ai pas entendu combien il y avait de spires sur chaque bobine de fibre optique. Est-ce que vous avez pu le déterminer ?
@lelabodemichel51627 ай бұрын
Non, c’est impossible à voir, l’ensemble est noyé dans un genre de colle pour la stabilité.
@cogoid7 ай бұрын
Chaque bobine contient 500 mètres de fibre optique. Donc, environ 2000 spires, à peu près.
@womble3216 ай бұрын
A local museum went to Europe and he brought a cold war Sam system basically from a base that was closing in east Germany. He towed the thing thing back to Britain through several customs posts. He got it back to sunny Bedfordshire before realising the thing was live! The RAF took it for evaluation then returned it with dummy missiles made to replace the real ones. They were very grateful!!!!!
@sparkyy00077 ай бұрын
Amazing the chips they put in washing machines these days...
@cdrom10707 ай бұрын
if they don't get the right shape of anything in there the design is fucked so if you deny a voltage regulator it will fail
@pauljs757 ай бұрын
The IR sensor seems too specific in purpose to see much use and probably needs some special lens to go with it, but if the ring laser gyro has enough resolution that would be a neat piece of kit to back-engineer and have working on some kind of RC aircraft or drone. (Also wasn't the RLG something the U.S. shared with Russia as part of the agreement for joint operations in space? It's kind of funny to see it put on a weapon not long after they had access to it.)
@domovoy_sych7777 ай бұрын
его достали из ворованного тостера с украины
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
@@domovoy_sych777а тостер произвели в китае по технологиям северной кореи... которые ей подарили русские в 1970х...
@danobrien36016 ай бұрын
fibre laser gyros drift long term but a missile flight is not long term .. minutes
@michaelj.galloway88096 ай бұрын
Thank You for this evaluation of the missal fiber optic giro part, [ I wonder how many are either, US or Eurepin parts ]
@Тёмный_Механик6 ай бұрын
Stop listening to the BBC and CNN. Russia has been producing all this itself for a long time.
@tomekmakulski70332 ай бұрын
3:52 "Optical coupler?" It's not an optical coupler but it's probably an BEAM SPLITER because it follows the theory of the fibre optic gyroscope. I may be wrong, let the wiser ones correct me...
@russ18uk7 ай бұрын
Hopefully the Altera part wasn't supplied directly by Intel!
@user-lb8bg6kj9m7 ай бұрын
intel inside 👍 and apparently outside too.
@ufukpolat34807 ай бұрын
First of all, there's no evidence that this was Russian manufactured. Secondly, these chips have been sold, resold and even cloned in various parts of the world for a while and the fact that it's an FPGA likely means it was used instead of a dedicated chip which could have been in short supply during those years when this unit was produced, perhaps even from spare parts left in a former Soviet state. I'm sure nobody uses FPGA parts these days because Russian military production has been steadily investing in domestic IC manufacturing capabilities as any nation deemed antagonistic by USA justifiably would.
@cantorgauss7 ай бұрын
@@ufukpolat3480 no. Russia has absolutely zero IC factories. Everything is imported.
@woofkaf77247 ай бұрын
@@cantorgaussну тут вы не правы. Есть они. Только конечно не для гражданки. В бизнес и военным делают. Скорее мелочевку не делают.
@rzhevsky49347 ай бұрын
@@cantorgauss No. Вас обманули. В России около 10 заводов производящих микросхемы. Первая русская микросхема была представлена в 1964 году.
@user-lo6hg3np8s7 ай бұрын
выяснили в каких стиральных машинах применяются эти чипы?
@elektrikpco7 ай бұрын
Ща пойду в своей lg гляну... Если что - сразу на фронт
@user-hb9il9yq9s7 ай бұрын
Буквально на днях у себя в стиралке такой же гироскоп менял))))
@andreiminin47387 ай бұрын
Я свои стиралки давно сдал, все для фронта, все для победы!
@alexeyl227 ай бұрын
а рашистские террористы от техас-инструментс каким-то образом взяли милитари-грейд компоненты? Что-то не видно милитари. Одни стиралки ворованные.
@alexanderandreev71517 ай бұрын
Эх, жаль, у меня машинка немецкая, от неё не подходят.
@armand46227 ай бұрын
Je suis bleuffé par ta capacité à récupérer ces composants sensibles, bravo !!!!!
@HTXKJ7 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Can you draw shematic of the amplifiers from the seeker?
@MissilemanIII7 ай бұрын
I see they have been Cat Scanned 😂
@phoneaccount69077 ай бұрын
Inspected, found nothing not known by cats. 🔬👨🎓🐈🐾
@nchurly7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Very interesting video. Also it seems i understand French!
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
1:55 591кн3 - analog of HI-506, Harris Semicoductor Corp. 16-in 2 way multiplexor to 1. +-15v, 1mA consumption. Producer "Svetlana" Saint-Petersburg (S) - vaccuum tube, tranzistors, ics for genereral purpose n defence.
@edwardgilmour90136 ай бұрын
Great work
@runner-cheetah7 ай бұрын
On a video very old parts, from 2000 year, is not a secret, it shows on educational channel. Optic gyro is a old nav from regular plane (spare nav system) sensor array on miniature frame - from anti aircraft mini missile, like Igla or something man launched. Nothing special. Modern have a chips from fridge or washing machine, like news channel says 😂
@vladpanov96727 ай бұрын
if it was a controller from Iskander, it would say BOSCH EPW65320 on a label)))
@smert_okupantam7 ай бұрын
0:37 "iskander" is a ballistic missile, not cruise missile.
@user-bj9yi2wp7m7 ай бұрын
Искандеры бывают баллистические и крылатые
@pro-jecktbd67407 ай бұрын
@@user-bj9yi2wp7m так аффтар обозвал её крылатой, притом на картинке баллистическая 723-я, а речь идёт об обломках 727-й из Днепра
@@user-bj9yi2wp7m "Искадер - К" применяет старые советские крылатые ракеты Р-500. так что это другая ракета.
@RaniVeluNachar-kx4lu6 ай бұрын
Fiber optic gyro with three axis of sensors measuring the pitch, yaw and roll the three plans of flight control.
@dtiydr7 ай бұрын
0:19 "calculator part" Yea that is a correct description.
@alexanderbelkin59787 ай бұрын
Это контроллер от стиралки Индезит?
@user-km8nf7fc4g7 ай бұрын
Индезит отстой. Это Вятка - автомат!!!
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
@@user-km8nf7fc4gперемычку только вытащить, чтобы ток пошёл на плисину побольше, и тогда активируется военный режим работы (последний пуск)😂
@user-fh3mv2bo3d6 ай бұрын
Фсе идеть по плану, стирать в проруби.
@AlexanderGee7 ай бұрын
You can see why they need western components so badly. Unless there is something truly special going on that huge ceramic DIP package for a simple analog multiplexer was already wildly out of date in 2004. I thought this missile was one of their newer designs?
@advancedmicrosystems46587 ай бұрын
@@ARSAMES007How does it matter if its classified? As soon as its used in battle someone can fetch it of the ground and look at it.
@Cutycats97 ай бұрын
They have china lol so dont worry about components ❤
@nazariimoroz62167 ай бұрын
@@advancedmicrosystems4658 You don't understand, the newer designs are so classified that the russians don't even use them in their war tech lmao, to keep their newer designs in secret the kremlin engineers don't even invent them, putin wins once again 🤣🤣🤣
@SandorPipei7 ай бұрын
The Altera Cyclone II FPGA is also obsolete for new designs. As you can see the fpga is also not a military grade one and you can find them in abundence on the chinese market at low cost. Also the lassers are manufactured by a chinese company called DenseLight. In other words they are not depending on western components.
@volvo2457 ай бұрын
Western components made in China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan and Malaysia. Yeah hey maybe keep coping with the washing machine nonsense too.
@atrumluminarium3 ай бұрын
Is the iskander the one that was targeting toilets?
@user-sr6pi5lp3q7 ай бұрын
Who selled this, how and for how much?
@YourDetector7 ай бұрын
If you have money I am sure you can buy from Ukrainians the parts of intercepted Kinzhals (even if they are not interceptable)
@ItsTristan1st7 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@rzhevsky49347 ай бұрын
Какие "перехваченные Кинжалы"?😂 Они ни одного не смогли перехватить
@mrshyman12577 ай бұрын
На скоростях прилета они дефрагментируются.
@YourDetector7 ай бұрын
@@rzhevsky4934 перехватить то не перехватили, но кто мешает продавать на ебее иностранцам ;)) Украинцы всегда были отличными продавцами ))
@user-me3yz9mq7f7 ай бұрын
As soon as you send the money to Ukraine, you can forget about them. You will lose them.
@f33net7 ай бұрын
If you send a lot of money to a ukrainian, he will send you a "Sarmat"... 😂
@passerbyworld7 ай бұрын
And he will arrive under his own power😂
@f33net7 ай бұрын
@@passerbyworld no, no, for own power need ask us for it... 🙂But we don't know how to lie so skillfully, everything can be real...
@Spiegelradtransformation6 ай бұрын
Ok, thank you.
@eugenezagidullin48937 ай бұрын
It seems like they are still using their classic PTFE insulated wires
@msmith29617 ай бұрын
PTFE insulated wires, such as MIL-W-22759, are still the aerospace industry standard.
@Oktokolo7 ай бұрын
Makes sense. PTFE is pretty robust stuff well-suited for the coldest and hottest climates everywhere on earth. Don't want your wire insulation become brittle when stored for a few decades in some unheated storage in Siberia. And it has good dielectric properties too (so no need to use something else for HF applications). If it wheren't for the environmental issue (the stuff is known as a "forever chemical") PTFE would be used for everything everywhere. It's just such a good material.
@eugenezagidullin48937 ай бұрын
@@medved3027 how do you strip them btw?
@Oktokolo7 ай бұрын
@@medved3027 I don't think, there is a good replacement for it yet. So they can't ban it because all sorts of industries need reliable wiring. And you really shouldn't use it as coating for your pans anyways - so if they ban that application, that's actually fine.
@bormisha7 ай бұрын
@@eugenezagidullin4893Cutting pliers. You just need some practice.
@eugenenuribekov12317 ай бұрын
590KH3 is the Russian replica of Intersil HI-506.
@jenix1027 ай бұрын
Or Harris😂
@narcoti7 ай бұрын
This is super cool.
@enoughnonsensenowlistenup34587 ай бұрын
люблю МГТФ
@user-qv3iv8yn8p7 ай бұрын
Прикольно, спасибо за видео
@user-uj8eb2ef4l7 ай бұрын
И тебе спасибо за комментарии. Слава Украине!
@Rastimon19917 ай бұрын
@@user-uj8eb2ef4l Конечно же в составе России
@meteor80767 ай бұрын
@@user-uj8eb2ef4l Героям слава !! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@SIM31r7 ай бұрын
@@meteor8076 те что Белгород бомбили кассетами? Это террористы.
@vladi_g7 ай бұрын
@@meteor8076 Сала ты хотел написать?
@luisb71077 ай бұрын
Strange that so many components are labeled I would have guessed that they would remove every marking from the components to make reverse engineering harder
@yurakondratuk2537 ай бұрын
Видимо предполагалось, что после взрыва ничего не найдут
@Versette7 ай бұрын
@@yurakondratuk253This. Or either it's not worth it since if people want to, they can still trace back even the shards (if there are any of the size of the crystal), or just through other info sources maybe...
@AlexKarasev7 ай бұрын
These are pretty ancient original designs, and exact chips can be identified by their microscopic fragments.
@Oktokolo7 ай бұрын
The sensor and the gyroscope are probably both assumed to be already well-known by the enemy. Also, the Soviets really like to repair, reuse and recycle. Having correct markings on everything helps with that.
@SIM31r7 ай бұрын
@@Oktokolo The electronic component is disposable. Varnish is applied on top to protect against water. It is not possible to replace a part on an electronic board.
@demos1137 ай бұрын
Nice work. 🙂
@K12war7 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@mermak17 ай бұрын
me encanta lo que haces, no entiendo como los rusos utilizan componentes occidentales para hacer armamento, debe ser gracias a los chinos, saludos desde Buenos Aires Argentina
@steppefort7 ай бұрын
It's easy. Now, of all that is out there, the only thing you can’t buy at retail is Altera. The rest of the stuff is simply bought on digikey, or somewhere else, by agents or simply supporters, or simply for a higher price, all over the world. Sent to Georgia (not US), Turkey, or Kazakhstan, or other countries to which Russians can come in person. Then they are simply taken directly to Russia without any control. Rockets are not a product that is produced in millions of pieces, even tenfolding the price of the same amplifier from AD does not matter. Altera was purchased, I think, in advance, since it is a fairly old model, and Russia has been preparing for war for a long time. They probably have some depo. The quantity available now does not matter, if there are 10,000 of them, it means they can make 10,000 missiles, or a little less.
@ivan._._7 ай бұрын
Hello. I'm from Russia. Sanctions don't work at all. Absolutely everything can be bought through other countries, just a little more expensive than before. I am against Putin and against the war. I want Ukraine to win.
@Vovkets7 ай бұрын
сразу видно все вытащили из стиралок, микроволновок, сделай реверс инжиниринг собственного очка )
@mjarefi7 ай бұрын
hello friend. Can you also get kamikaze drone Shahid 136 UAV parts for teardown?
@paultardieu91827 ай бұрын
Do you have similar teardowns of Nato missiles parts?
@lelabodemichel51627 ай бұрын
I have an optical sensor from Lantirn targeting Pod AN/AAQ-14 and also very interresting missile parts.
@filipamator7 ай бұрын
This is amazing! All russian military electronics is based on western components. russians are not able to manufacture a typical modern ICs. All digital and analogue electronics is imported.
@tomsuh13627 ай бұрын
They could have brought it off e-bay .
@mullerstephan7 ай бұрын
imported from China, not the West.
@user-uj8eb2ef4l7 ай бұрын
@@mullerstephanproduced by China, but the design itself and ownership is by a company from USA.
@filipamator7 ай бұрын
@@mullerstephan Doesn't matter from which country it was imported, since the FPGA chip was not manufactured in China. What matters is the intellectual property and the fact, that russian industry is not able to design it and fabricate. Without a US designed and made IC it wouldn't be possible to make this board. The same story with transimpedance amplifiers for photodetectors -- it is US designed op amp from Analog Devices.
@filipamator7 ай бұрын
@@user-uj8eb2ef4l The silicon die was not produced in China but in TSMC in Taiwan.
@DallasPhool7 ай бұрын
Ich bewundere die konzeptionelle Reinheit
@minetdbrogs93867 ай бұрын
Can we reverse engineer all pcb boards or with extreme difficulty without the original software ?
@mrshyman12577 ай бұрын
Сегодня встретил этот датчик(на фотодиодах) показывали среди обломков х-101,сбитой в Украине.
@stevejobs16537 ай бұрын
Hello from Ukraine! 🖐 I live in the city of Zaporozhye, 50 kilometers from the front line.
@elektrikpco7 ай бұрын
Чому нэ українскою?
@taran22eight7 ай бұрын
@@elektrikpco russian kid moment:
@ggrisha877 ай бұрын
Greetings from Borodok! Nice to meet you here, zemlyak ;-) Slava Ukraine!