True💔

Its actually "everyone grows up alone if...", there's a "se" at the end, so the sentence probably continues.

@@CreepyMemes yeah thanks for sharing I didn't notice. I looked it up on the internet and it's a poem by Danilo Dolci (Italian educator and activist) entitled "Ciascuno cresce solo se sognato"

@@nightsmakestories oh interesting thanks for sharing

​@@nightsmakestories"each one grows up only if dreamed"

A simple solution: architects for social housing should be contractually obliged to move into their creation.

actually social housing works, yes there are some bad examples that are news worthy while the working ones no one cares about. I guess a good exampel of working social housing is most soviet architecture with self-sustaining nabourhoods. counties like Denmark and Sweden have social housing with rules for mixture like (25% pensioners 25% studens 25%families and 25% single rooms), that works great and guess you chould say all of it is social housing catering for low income earners but with different social capital and values making sure it stays balanced.

@@Mira_linn "That works great" no evidence or even argumentation offered or even thought of.

@@pneron2032 much social housing in Europe is 100 times safer than most American neighborhoods in the private market

@@shaftlamer this is government failure in a non-socialist state lol

Yes, he also believed in Santa Claus

That requires a good community. Not all people form good communities.

Its called the common goods dilemma. Thats the reason while this kind of brutalist socialist things dont work and will never work

Communism

@hanikrummi hundursvin those who bother get taken advantage of by others who treat the place like a landfill. Who wants to clean up after others for free or to try and invest in personal projects in a public area where random kids can trash it on a whim?

They were naive upper middle class idealists with little idea as to how ordinary people live and interact with each other. I recall as a child that most houses were designed by builders or non degree trained people using appropriate housing patterns passed down from generations past, what is known as vernacular architecture. Some idealistic architects tried to build fancy roofs and housing styles more appropriate to the mediterranean hot spots rather than to cold and damp Ireland. These fancy houses leaked badly and had to be rectified by common sense and practical builders in order to work properly. Balconies were glazed in to keep in heat and keep out rain, flat roofs were redone in a tiled pitched style, or better yet slate, to keep out driving rain and several other forgotten details known by our ancestors but omitted by the arrogant architects more interested in style and appearance than actual function, ease of maintenance and durability. Modern architects have improved hugely in this regard but need to be watched carefully as developers, often working at 1000 units at a time are the new devils in the building world.

They still are. How many really beautiful buildings, have been built in the world in the last 20 years?

@@roby72s Hungary has laws in place that buildings have to have historical architecture. The stuff they build is beautiful and you wouldn't know it was built so recently, it looks like 17th century kinda architecture.

@@keighlancoe5933 I am glad for you my Hungarian friend. Is it a recent law or has been around for along time? Hungary was on my holiday wish list. I hope that as soon as we are allowed travel again, I will be able to do so.

No, the architects had great visions. The people buying into those visions were let down by the authorities.

Sadly, yup.

wha do you mean, i no no. lmfao. Since its begining.

so naive to believe it's just an italian thing. lol

@@Fra42below ha, not JUST an italian thing - but DEFINITELY an italian thing lol

Corruption.....

You can’t over emphasize the shitty humans part

Typical shitty Naples.

Many such cases!

Maffia.corruption.etc.....

@@fabrizzioperfetti6807 Didn't work out any differently at the Broadwater Farm estate, Tottenham, London.

Similar to the block shown in the film "Gomorrah"

The "broken windows" effect has been proven to be a symptom and not a cause. I think the short and obvious answer is that there was zero privacy.

Even the initial design, it's terrible to live in the boxes they designed. But yeah because of the corruption it was overcrowded & non-functional when it was utilized first, thus doomed to fail.

@@-Atmos1 It was the blocks shown in Gomorrah. Short attention span hey? It showed that in the clip.

@@-Atmos1 It's the actual one from Gomorra

"I want to create a dystopia" ?

@@SI-ln6tcRun towards them.

This phenomenon of 60's brutalist tower blocks was played out in lots of places where 'visionary' architects created dystopian nightmares partly because as Roger Scruton suggested... "There is a deep human need for beauty and if you ignore that need in architecture, your buildings will not last".

Yeah, true, like communism and Marxism

@@Andredias164 run away from that too. Its a lie, there is no such thing as a utopia, this is a perfect example of what it becomes, and if you want to see more of it just look at russian flats. What a depressing way to live. This shouldnt be allowed.

You should watch Dredd

@@topworstmedia5413 fuck dude lol i was thinking that

It's going to be demolished between 2021 and 2022

You should watch "Show me a hero" that tackles this problem in 80's Yonkers. One character assigned to oversight, insists that the increase of shared spaces leads to increase of neglect. He argues that no matter the race or social status, people will protect what's theirs. It ties the crime problem of low-income housing to cost issues, leading to cramping housing units, leading to communal areas that no one is directly responsible for. It's a beautiful, heartbraking, and eyeopening HBO miniseries from the creator of "The Wire", that everybody should watch.

@@francis8062 Until the money disappears. Again.

Oh shit, I'd love to see a video about this place!

My uncle has lived in 30 storey trellick tower since 1977, it was built by enio goldfinger. He lived on the 30th floor for 15yrs. It does sway slightly in high winds. Aswad wrote the song Ghetto in the sky, The Clash wrote up in heaven about trellick tower. For a long time it was a vertical ghetto. There was at least one person jumping off a upper landing every year. One time a base jumper jumped from the top, his parachute never opened Then the council moved out the problem families, installed cctv, and put a 12hr concierge at the entrance. A friend originally squatted his flat around 1980, a few of the residents did. Eventually they granted them tenancies. He bought his flat years ago under the right to buy scheme for around £50,000. He rents it out now for £2,200 a month. A 3 bed flat now sells for £1,000,000

Not only in Naples.

Not only there my friend... It is world wide.... some places are just more evident, some others not so much... I think those kinda of shameful corrupted scandals and how we see them are related to the culture we live in.

Don't think you have anything we haven't got.... (-; I'm in England, we have the same amount of corruption here, it's just on different levels.

@@thefreedomguyuk It's even worse in England.

I honestly think the US is taking the lead for most corrupted

No. Because he was an architect. An engineer would not build such crap LOL 😆

@@dgdg6143 lol an engieneer couldnt build anything without an architect so I guess youre right

Just to squash this asap. The responsibilities of engineers and architects often overlap. Both professions are integral to the design and construction of structures, such as buildings and bridges. Architects design the space to meet client needs, as well as the aesthetic appearance of the inside and exterior of the building. Engineers' main responsibility is to ensure the design is safe and meets all appropriate building codes. Engineers concern themselves with making buildings safe and functional by selecting structural materials, determining the structural members of the design, and specify the electrical, heating, ventilation, air conditioning and plumbing systems. One way that engineers and architects communicate their ideas to each another is through blueprints, or technical drawings.

@@marxthesocialist5231 no engineer signature, no project. Is that clear enough?

@@dgdg6143 They are literally both needed so if youre building like a hotel or a skyscraper, no architect signature, no building, ThAt ClEaR ENouGH FOr YOu. What a fucking child.

- Bruce dinkinson

lol..when I was younger I wanted to live in Forcella ,Quartiere and close to the port ..I visited and loved Naples far more than any other Italian city ...Forca Napoli

@@rawgab4439 no you didn’t

@@purplefabian Si ...100 percento ;))

@@rawgab4439 Italy is so beautiful. Even the sails looked good from the outside. Is the Comorra as strong in reality as it was portrayed in the film? I recognize the sails from the movie.

Even tho they criminals that’s you guys community no I’m not a law abiding citizen where I’m from but I always showed love to the people who weren’t thugs don’t hate where you come from

It was still getting demolished last year. Did you even watch it? Even the TV show first aired in 2014. Anyways.

This place wasn't dangerous. Don't believe that bollocks from the TV series, Gomorrah. Utter bollocks. There are parts of Manchester more dangerous than this. Places like Eccles and Swinton. Places that are infested with young gangbangers, and where you have shootings everyday and people don't settle scores with knives, but swords.

@@spookydookme1138 bro I live in salford 😂 Yeh parts of it are a bit rough, but I can assure you, whether you choose to listen or not, you have way overhyped things. We have nothing in Manchester like what's in this video. Closest there was was South Manchester in the 80s/90s and that's all been demolished as well now

@@spookydookme1138 your talking out your arse mate 🤣😂

@@KillerDiaguR I live in Salford too, the Precinct Broadwalk area, one of the Towers. I was taking the piss, obviously Eccles and Swinton aren't that bad. But you do get some piss heads hanging around the bus station next to Morrisons, and if you want anything nicking from the Range or Morrisons, all you've got to do is ask them.

Eu q edificio es?

great what you said.i thought about it before i saw your comment.greeting from greece

It’s become like that in the USA too. Greetings 👋🏼

I am Chilean from an Italian mom from Rapallo Genova, and you right , always poor people are the most friendly, the most solidarity , and help each other , greetings!!

What about the Cammora?

@@brandaonb4249 ....no answer.

A lot were still being paid for after they'd been demolished and new housing built where they once stood!!!

The same with Ballymun in Dublin. Tower blocks built on the edge of the city with no infrastructure which led to high crime and the area became rundown. The place was eventually flattened and social housing was put in its place. High rise public housing hasn't worked here.

Broadwater farm is one of the last stil standing

In america there were public housing projects too that were getting destroyed as well in a short time span. The 20th century seemed to have been riddled with this.

​@@frankiewilde7791I'm from ballymun

Cabrini green was my first thought. Any place you pack that many dirt poor people together is gonna be advantageous to the criminal element

They can work but only with heavy funding, more green space and trees and 5-8 stories instead of 10-40 stories. They defund and don't want to fix anything. They are also isolated from the rest of the city. They should also be purpose built to cover issues the people have.

wtf is that supposed to mean

@@McBANANARAMAMAN never heard of the concrete jungle ?

@@McBANANARAMAMAN concrete jungle !!

You can't imagine. The noise from any apartment block in Italy is unbelievable (-;

@@thefreedomguyuk don't you have other stupid stereotypes to propose to us? 🤦

Pffft! That was the intention all along

Same thing happened in Chicago. Cabrini-Green, Robert Taylor homes, etc etc

check out our Rochdale College story for more weird buildings!

@@AnomalyDocs will do!

Gorgeous girl!!!😘😍

I was getting more of a Pruitt igoe or Cabrini green vibe

That is old history haha .They demolished everything 。

Exactly what the Camorra figured out for years The sails, as they were known, were demolished about two years ago.

In Brazil, we call it "CDHU". The big construction companies convinced the governments that we are facing a "housing problem" and purposefully manufactured one. The strategy and the business agreement between the construction companies and government representatives are very shady - most of them have tight ties with the owners of those companies - and the results will impact the real state market very much soon (the people who had real state - usually the rich politicians will get more for lower prices amid recession scenario). Those kind of mass projects that stack people on top of each other is a VERY troubled way to see how people live and the already rich people will get richer by scamming the poor (AGAIN)... To propose that as a "solution" and do not oversight the results (or aftermath the project when its properly done) for its problem (Housing problem) is just stupid... Like... A cook must know what he (or she) are making is good. How to know that huh?

Nice neighbours?

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 I bet

There's nothing bad about this Place, i was Born and grown in there. You have to live there, to talk about that.

@@justinloward5015 si

@@justinloward5015 Its all based on perspective really. From someones perspective that was raised there they may have enjoyed it, hated it, etc. People from a different perspective, one that comes from a different country with different housing situations would see that as "Slummy" for the lack of a better word. So of course your first response is a depressed feeling when seeing this from such a perspective.

Thank you so much! Tell your friends :)

Right? I just discovered their channel today and I’m addicted. The whole topic of anomalies are so interesting and these vids are so well made! I’m literally shocked at the fact they don’t have at least one million subscribers

@@Buut3rscotch100 Thank you Alicia!

Série Gomorra in HBo

Same.. if the walls could tell stories..

Disco Dub : You're a poet, my friend.

Romance? People can't even take a walk without being in costant fear of getting harassed o robbed

@disco dub I like your comment.

@@Niggaracee445 no doubt that was an everyday thing there man. I’m talking about the beautiful sparks of good stuff that must’ve happened there

Was about to say the same thing!

Only in the last few days the first fatal shooting of 2021. Near Ballymun.

thanks buddy!

Bullshits!! In the last 10 years everything changed, 3 of the "Vele" were demolished and the rest were closed and abandoned.

Watch your channel, keep it up

@@anonimoinnominati5824 I'm italian and I don't see any bullshit. The documentary is correct, a little bit "basic", but it's ok. Something like: "Vele di Scampia for dummies". Then, if you want to go deeper, go on, plenty of resources on internet.

@@g.r.793 Sei italiano?? E allora perchè rispondi in inglese??

@hanikrummi hundursvin no he doesn't

@@samuelobelo894 yes he does

@@Visbalalam ok maybe he does

That is what Margaret Thatcher did in Britain. They bought their house and started to create a garden, take care of the appearance of the property. In fact they created a garder industry that didn't exist before.

Thank you for checking us out. You might also enjoy our episodes about 'Guryong Village' and 'Rochdale College'.

@@AnomalyDocs subbed man:) , will give them a watch

@@jk7690 have you seen the series Gomorrah? Best show ever IMO.

@@dannyduggan4324 gomorrah is simply outstanding. I've watched it several times and it's beautiful and enthralling.

@@paddycowhey3406 completely agree. Just rewatched it after seeing L'immortale. Definitely my favourite show.

Thanks you so much

@A R you know what i find funny about this? Theres very similar buildings like this in Brazil, they even look a bit like prisions (fully fenced with eletric barbwire, high walls security), but, instead of poor people, is the middle class and rich who live in this places... The poor don't have fences in their houses.

@@efxnews4776 I noticed this, when I visited the country.

Very true. I was told Naples wasn't safe and to be careful. But it was so beautiful, with Mt. Vesuvius, the harbor and the palm trees. And the food was so good!

@@efxnews4776 esses AP aí é pra playboy aqui no Brasil 😂

@@SaracuraZN o problema nunca foi o projeto, e sim como eles tratam esse projetos, deixaram a coisa toda abandonada. Aqui no Brasil taxam caro, então o povo tem uma tendência de cuidar melhor.

Thanks so much!

Chris Ramsden thank you!

I 2nd that. Thanks very much

They were built in the late 60s early 70s. After the earthquake more people starting to move in illegally. They are used by the members of O'sistema to hide, store weapons and sell drugs. As a kid I used to play in front of it with my cousins, seeing all the craziness around it. If you have no business there, don't go near or in it! But to me, it's a architecture so ugly that it's beautiful. But not just le vele are dangerous. Most parts of the Scampia area are no go areas if you have no business there. If you liked the movie, I suggest to watch the series. It shows how it went/,goes down. Very realistic!

@@TweekerDub Thanks for your message! When did you live there as a kid?

@@AnomalyDocs I never lived there, my father is from there. But we used to go there a lot for long period of time. Like I said, as a kid playing soccer in front of it with my cousins and friends, we saw "things" but to us it was as normal as your neighbors dancing in the street. Things changed in the sense of more violence. Now they have these Scampia tours🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ so people can get a glimpse of the neighborhood. Have you ever been there or near? Great video though!!

glad you liked it!!

Was it Pruitt Igoe? I was going to do that one originally but I got really into the Scampia story.

@@AnomalyDocs Yes, exactly. And, also, some notorious Chicago projects, but Pruid Igo was also a thirld-world conditions complex.

@@konstantinoslentaris9656 i just chek now on internet what was pruitt igoe and yes, that was crazy, in italy there aren t zone like this, but because we are a small country, but if u check hood like Bipiani Napoli or Ciambra of Gioiatauro, or Zen 2 of palermo, they are pretty similar to the 3rd world but is little compare to america we are smalls towns

North St. Louis is where they Filmed “Escape from New York”

The design is awful. Did you even watch the video? Did you miss the electricity issues, the leaks etc?

Also, the Chinese fascist regime in HK “helps” dispose of any undesirable people.

But Hong Kong buildings have running water, toilets electricity, no leaks, good construction and the buildings were finished also didn't steal the money meant for the build.

Hong Kong city is full of people all over with electricity and water. But do you know old Hong Kong building called Kowloon castle? And there’s people still live in a cell barely you can lay down

@@bonitobonita9263 This actually quite reminded me of Kowloon Walled City!

Thank you!

So was everything else built at the time 🤷‍♂️

If you're going to correct where the accent is, at least put them in *thís* way, not in *thàt* way.

@@paulelderson934 The italian language has both "accento acuto" (é) and "accento grave" (è), so please refrain from correcting someone when you don't know what your talking about. In any case, Scampia doesn't have an ortographic (aka written) accent. OP was just correcting pronunciation.

@@paulelderson934 He put the accent correctly for Italian orthography (which is the matter of this conversation). He knows what he's talking about. You don't.

Thank you so much!

thank you!!

@@AnomalyDocs I threw you onto my list of favorite KZfaqrs with less than 2000 subs. You deserve more views and interactions.

thank you so much!

Thank you!

thank you!

So it's the mentality of the people and economic situation that will determine if these types of housing will work?

@@grimgoreironhide9985 ad money

Glad you enjoyed it

Sails is correct

lol. It was never the architect’s fault. It’s also not entirely on the architect, the DEVELOPER, aka, whoever is commissioning the building has to communicate effectively, and honestly, about the conditions and uses. Also the camorra, unlike this video says, was there from the beginning i.e. during the construction phase, which is why it never had a chance because the materials and construction were sabotaged from the beginning.

God help these people.

Or anyone who makes products in general

Public housing is a guaranteed slum. The residents have zero incentive to maintain it. So it decays then everyone wants out accelerating the degradation.

What do you expect from free housing

@@xxxxxxxx183 It's not free housing. Residents must pay a third of their income in rent each month. Even if you are only getting welfare you still have to pay.

@@fr2ncm9 lmao

Thank you! Glad you watched!

Bollocks, Steve. What you meant to say is that it reminds you of Scotch Corner in Eccles.

@@spookydookme1138 your really pushing this 'manchester is well rough' message😂 theres places so much worse, get over yourself.

@@benoneill4318 Have you been to Little Hulton? If you've not, don't go there after dark.

@@spookydookme1138 on halloween im sure it is.

@@spookydookme1138 yes there’s nothing compared to the racial and social injustices of scotch corner

Do you know geography?

@@gaia7240 do you know, you know...humor?

@@pOpCoRn0531 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Pizza is good tho

@@pOpCoRn0531 sorry I don't get it

They're all bad places and evil things go on. What's the point in trying to compare which is worse. One thing though. I lived in Chicago and these projects in Italy looked far worse visually and were far more delapitated looks wise.

@@harrymail7 You've never been in any of them though, have you? Maybe you should care more about how bad it is since you have weekends with 70+ shootings and do nothing about it. Chicago is one of the most segregated cities I've ever been to. Especially considering its status of second city. And the funny thing is that the city is to blame. They tore people from their homes in order to reclaim that valuable north side waterfront real estate Cabrini was sitting on and realized they couldn't tear down one project for profit so they invented the need to tear down all of them as if they were trying to help the people that lived there. People were forced to move into rival neighborhoods because they were poor. Throwing off the fragile balance of gang neighborhoods and forcing rivals to live within blocks of each other. The murder spike is a direct result of that. You are remarking on how it looks but you probably haven't been in either. If you had you might have been more empathetic. The Feds work with NYPD on every investigation. If there's a crime uptick in Brooklyn the FBI will step in. The Southern/Eastern DAs will be trying teenagers with Ricos for some drugs sold and 2 shootings. It's more economic than racial, I get that. There's no premium on land in the midwest so the Southside property values will never justify the time of Federal law enforcement. But to ameliorate this long ass post. I really did like Chicago. What I saw inside Cabrini was not like what the city as a whole was like. Cool neighborhoods, great food, not exorbitantly priced, and beautiful women in that part of the country. I met a cute blonde girl within a couple hours of landing who drove us around the whole weekend. It was a blast man.

And the Candyman can...

@@benbaby100 I'm not even reading all that. My point is. Crime drugs and violence are all bad. You sound childish trying to compare which is worse.

@@bodyloverz30 You know that story is based on fact. There were killers that broke through the medicine cabinets connecting apartments. Freaky story man. Great movie

I have thrush.

Glad you liked it!