Lead Architect For PS5 Says He's Surprised About 60fps Games. Also Calls Out A Linus Tech Tips Video
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Күн бұрынIt's not often we hear from the longtime games industry veteran Mark Cerny. Having a 42 year career in games starting at Atari, he's nowadays more well known for being the system architect for PS4, PS Vita, and PS5. And recently he did an interview discussing the console business, things that surprised him about PS5 so far, and even references a recent Linus Tech Tips video. Anytime Mark talks, we gotta go over it. So that's what we do in this discussion! Mark, if you're watching this (I do not expect that to ever happen) but what's up! Let me interview you sometime. I don't even want to monetize it, I'd just happily pick your brain on monotonous topics.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro, Cerny's Background, Personal Gaming Habits
1:51 - What Has Surprised Cerny So Far About This Console Generation
2:48 - Why Games Take So Long To Make
4:31 - Cerny Says They Aren't Making Low Cost PC's
5:23 - Cerny Responds To Linus Tech Tips Video
6:00 - Will Mark Retire Anytime Soon?
7:29 - Why Mark Cerny Is So Important To PlayStation
8:24 - The 60fps Console Discussion
10:15 - Discussing The Linus Video / Low Cost PC Comment
#PS5 #PlayStation5 #Sony
@Manjawline 5 күн бұрын
60FPS should be an industry standard by now
@ps4games164 5 күн бұрын
120 actually
@kingsfan2512 5 күн бұрын
@@ps4games164 Def not 120. No PC can run Cyberpunk with ray-tracing at 4K 120, even with DLSS 3. That's just being ridiculous, and nobody needs 120 frames per second.
@KepleroGT 5 күн бұрын
@@kingsfan2512For all but the most demanding games it should be 120
@guyfawkes4578 5 күн бұрын
@@KepleroGTSo, less than 5% of AAA, and below. Which is what's happening anyway?
@aintrxiden 5 күн бұрын
@@kingsfan2512 heres a guy who never played on a 120hz+ monitor fellas
@lalilulelothepatriots7228 5 күн бұрын
I didn't know Mark Cerny will be 60 yrs old in August 24, 2024. He still looks young.
@ayonmetar2301 5 күн бұрын
... I was certain that guy was around 45. 50 tops. o_O
@sphexie 5 күн бұрын
what money does to a mf
@user-ph8or3wn5r 5 күн бұрын
Cerny studio's begins too. Via playstation studio's expansion too. 60fps knack 3 begins. New exclusive ip etc too. Thanks cerny.
@summerrr1 5 күн бұрын
I think he has limited stress. I mean, think about how easy his job is. He designs one product every 4 years. If the lifecycle of a console is 7 years, he’s able to design the console and then take the next 3 years off.
@s3rv3r3rror8 5 күн бұрын
@@summerrr1Yeah that's not how it works hahaha😂
@stannisthemannis5535 4 күн бұрын
Its way easier to tell the bump in quality from 30FPS to 60FPS than it is to see the bump from 1440p to 4K
@NeonCyberSamurai 3 күн бұрын
1440 and 4k are vastly different by about 2k pixels. As some who just recently upgraded to 4k OLED from 1440 ips it's night and day . And I've been using 1440 monitor since 2020.
@stannisthemannis5535 3 күн бұрын
@@NeonCyberSamurai I'm Also rocking 4K OLED. The jump just isn't the same. It starts tapering off exponentially.
@GhazalyYeopZainuddin 2 күн бұрын
t@@NeonCyberSamurai Not really. Night and day thing u expriencing is probably change from normal monitor to oled. Not much of yhe resolution thing. 1440p to 4k on same size screen, on same display tech is NOT as big as of improvement as 30 to 60fps. Unless you are one those people that cant trll 30fps with 60fps, of course.
@alexlara5326 2 күн бұрын
@@GhazalyYeopZainuddinyou smoking
@BlueLightningSky Күн бұрын
Not if you are comparing still screen shots and watching videos from KZfaq.
@MikeHeldTheWorld 5 күн бұрын
60fps needs to be the standard for video games. The same way 24fps is the standard for film.
@blackstar-genX 5 күн бұрын
Funny enough the 24 fps standard for film started because it saved them a crap ton of money.
@BlackSnake1602 5 күн бұрын
@blackstar-genX 24 FPS movie standard started due to being match for movies with sound. That's why silent movies before had fps and speed all over the place.
@CHT1992 5 күн бұрын
Games need more options. 60fps performance mode no RT. 60fps performance mode with RT (lower resolution). Balanced mode (seeks an inbetween alternative that targets 40-50fps) 30fps quality mode no upscaling. 30fps quality mode with RT (uses upscaling) This should only apply to heavier games, there are games that do not need performance options as they run fine. Some games will obviously be stuck at 30fps because there is no way to milk more out of the current hardware to achieve 60fps, so 30fps has to be the default setting. 60fps being a standard going forward is not as simple as it sounds. Consoles use a combination of hardware, which is usually decent by the time it launches, it usually aims for mid to "low high" range performance at the time of release, as time goes on, the hardware struggles and become low range performance or mid at best. Using upscalers and the likes is a nice solution but it creates a problem as studios will start neglecting games even more when it comes to performance/stability/optimization as they will rely in this stuff to make the game run fine or just good enough. We don't want that. If studios/publishers weren't this lazy and tried cutting corners, that would have been the ideal solution going forward, as it allows for taxing games to get better frame rates using stuff like FSR. It isn't perfect, but it helps. The only other solution is to refresh consoles every 4-5 years and end the generational cycle. Allowing people to buy a new system every 5 years to get top tier performance, but this would make consoles a more expensive approach than buying a decent pc and playing the same games on it. There is also the streaming solution but that is still far ahead in time and i don't want to go that route. AI could also be a solution to this in a few years, but i don't know about this one... This might work for some types of games.
@bugrasevinc9696 5 күн бұрын
@@BlackSnake1602 no, a research found that 48 fps was the lowest fps that human eye would see as a continious motion and can't difirentiate it with higher fps. But it was too expensive so they went with half that.
@BlackSnake1602 5 күн бұрын
@@bugrasevinc9696 research in 1927 when first movie with sound at 24fps came out? No. 24 FPS was a perfect match for movies with sound and it stayed that way. Some movies where shoot at 60 like Hobbit and every one who saw that version complained "it does not look right". Today using digital cameras you can get any FPS for no additional cost but no one wants movies in high framerate.
@JKSmith-qs2ii 5 күн бұрын
I don't care how much more detailed the artwork is if it moves by like a slide show.
@zenvultra 5 күн бұрын
spot on
@TheKennyboy92 5 күн бұрын
Yeah same, once you see the difference between 30 and 60 there is just no comparison.
@IPooopdogl 5 күн бұрын
Senua's Saga Hellblade 2 would like to have a word.
@tomparkin2068 5 күн бұрын
A consistent 30 is fine, it’s just when games can barely even make 20, that’s the issue.
@HugoStiglitz88 5 күн бұрын
Imagine pretending like 30 fps is a slideshow 😂😂😂😂 Yall still really pretending like you didn't play on ps4 where 90% of the games were 30? Or even masterpieces from back in the day like ocarina of time?? Yea I'm sure that's a bad "slideshow" game 😂😂😂😂
@PavTheSlav 5 күн бұрын
1080p 60fps should be the bare minimum. 1440p is the sweet spot though
@Deedric_Kee 5 күн бұрын
👍
@chettlar212 5 күн бұрын
Seriously. You can make incredible looking and playing things at 1440p60. Everyone oughta be targeting that
@JayUchiha17 5 күн бұрын
Yup and notice newer games run worst on PC now.
@KevDawg1992 4 күн бұрын
@@JayUchiha17 we aren't forced to run games at 1080p and below on PC so games definitely aren't running worse on PC.
@jgooner894 4 күн бұрын
The problem is sometimes you get the public complaining about something not graphically looking the best while something is 60fps, I get annoyed with comments like that where that’s not acknowledged.
@espenbrathen7156 5 күн бұрын
I will always trade visuals for a better framerate. A higher fps makes you have more control of the game and makes it more fun
@tacothunder2298 5 күн бұрын
it's definitely more functional, a boring game does not magically become fun by bumping the fps.
@keijijohnson9754 5 күн бұрын
You could still have that with 30 FPS as well.
@espenbrathen7156 5 күн бұрын
@@keijijohnson9754 I wrote "MORE" fun and control
@channelofstuff6662 4 күн бұрын
depending on the game i'll take either or. like racing i like 30 fps because it looks faster, FPS 60fps, rpgs visuals.
@jgooner894 4 күн бұрын
30 FPS and better visuals for games where fast reflexes aren’t a big priority I think is where you’d want to choose that.
@Chebka_ 3 күн бұрын
I'm absolutely fucking shocked that we're still having this fps debate in 2024.
@skinnynotlegend963 5 күн бұрын
This generation just seem like it hasn’t started yet and we are 4 years in.
@bymicromize 5 күн бұрын
Games changed, different field now. Everything takes a shit load of time to make or you get the whole gaming community on your neck and it is game over as a company.
@SonplaysMinEcraft 5 күн бұрын
indie games are the future
@Krypto121 5 күн бұрын
We aren't 4 years in until November, and if you look at past patterns, the heavy hitters don't start releasing until at least 3-4 years after a console has launched. Hell, God of War took 5 years to come out after the PS4 released.
@hiromitsukanzuki9137 5 күн бұрын
@@Krypto121 Exactly. I keep seeing this point come up and it's annoying. The PS4 didn't get that amazing streak of games at the start.
@Krypto121 5 күн бұрын
@@hiromitsukanzuki9137 It's always been this way. MGS 1 came out 4 years after the PS1. God of War came out 5 years after the PS2. The Last of Us came out 7 years after the PS3. Elden Ring came out 9 years after the PS4. I think it's more noticeable now since we aren't getting games 1-2 years after the previous title. It took 7 years between The Last of Us 1 and 2, as one of MANY examples.
@Snaaake_Beater 5 күн бұрын
I love mark cerny so much. He worked on crash bandicoot and traveled to japan without speaking japanese and they still made a game just because he liked the challange
@Robospy1 5 күн бұрын
Every game should have the option to choose 30 fps with the best graphics or 60 fps with pretty good graphics. Some games are fine in only 30, I'll say it. Lots and lots of games put a lot of effort into making the story cinematic, and there is good reason to go for the best graphics in those games.
@El_cuatro 5 күн бұрын
Resolution Mode/Performance Mode?
@Robospy1 5 күн бұрын
@@El_cuatro Exactly. I like how that is currently. I like to have options (which is why I mostly play on PC nowadays).
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 5 күн бұрын
I liked what they had in spiderman remastered where there was an option for a 40fps mode that had ray tracing. That was the best for me
@user-sx3pc4dj3r 4 күн бұрын
I absolutely hate 30fps. Any kind of motion and those better visuals are totally lost. Really, what's the point???
@andyward8430 3 күн бұрын
I completely disagree. Every game should aim for 60 fps and push the detail as high as they can while still maintaining 60 fps. 30 fps never allows for significantly better visuals. It’s always a negligible difference in terms of detail and resolution but the difference in framerate is a difference that everyone can feel.
@MrSarcasm101 4 күн бұрын
It's 2024! How is 30fps still ok?!
@zeroxcrusher 3 күн бұрын
Because of console peasants who cant tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps
@beautepley8352 5 күн бұрын
cerney is the goat. I'm glad he has time to relax and play games like the rest of us. It's good to see.
@NAT3s 5 күн бұрын
Platinum in Neon White is no joke.
@Sunny-ip7um 5 күн бұрын
Thanks Ryan, nice to hear your thoughts on this great article. I agree that Mark rarely does interviews, but that's of late. If you search on KZfaq there's many from the past. I really loved the one with Shu Yosheda, such legends. I hope Mark continues to consult for them into his 90s, a very impressive and understated individual.
@CheesusSweet Күн бұрын
Mark seems like such an intelligent dude. Really glad he's the architect behind these consoles.
@trebm3 5 күн бұрын
I still don't understand how these types are still stating things like this. Cerny himself has been pushing 60fps back to the PS4 era. We were told that the PS5 and Series X were like the best PCs back in 2020. 60 FPS was the standard well before 2020. I'm more surprised this is still a discussion in 2024.
@joseijosei 5 күн бұрын
"We were told" is a good thing to note. Now on days you know it was like a low-end, or probably barely mid-end PC (currently and since 2021 low-end, or course), because when a $565 PC can have better raster performance than a console, and double it with less artifacts and lower latency using AI, in less than 4 years when you still selling kt for $400, then you either know it didn't age well or that they were straight up lying to you. Also, the reason why we have so many PS5 games running at 60 fps is because the vast majority of the time we are playing PS4 games. This generation feels like it barely started.
@PKM1010 5 күн бұрын
He's not saying that because he has some preference, he just expected more developers to opt for more detail instead of more frames.
@He_isI 5 күн бұрын
@@joseijoseiWe were also told that the “vast majority” of PC players use a mid range machine to game on. We’re playing the best optimized version that our console, the PS5, has to offer while you keyboarders wait for a sale of a port for the games we’ve already enjoyed.
@badboyjm10 5 күн бұрын
I don’t get it either. I predicted that once you give people the option of performance or graphics most people would choose performance and there would be backlash when it’s not available (like with dragons dogma 2) the only reason they got away with it previously is because we didn’t get options.
@ZenOne7 5 күн бұрын
@@He_isIyou do realize a ton of these keyboarders enjoyed these titles along with you on console and are just wanting the pc upgrade, right?
@Deedric_Kee 5 күн бұрын
I'm with "Mark. He's the G.O.A.T. We should definitely be at 60fps for almost all games. 👍
@SIPEROTH 5 күн бұрын
Not really. Is up to the developer. But plenty of third person games can play just fine if they are locked at steady 30fps. Some games need 60 more depending on the type of game. In the end though the "omg is unplayable at 30" has more to do with PC that rarely has steady framerates or bad games that can't go over 30 but can be stable at 30 ether. If a game is actually very steady at 30fps then is not a horrible experience to play at all.
@HugoStiglitz88 5 күн бұрын
"Almost all" That's fair Anybody saying it should be standard is clueless. But most? Sure
@HugoStiglitz88 5 күн бұрын
@@SIPEROTHthat's why he said almost all. I agree with you otherwise though. Many games do not need 60 whatsoever
@nathanconnolly395 5 күн бұрын
@@SIPEROTH get a monitor that supports higher refresh rate and then let's see if you have the same opinion your TVs locked at 60hz so even if a game was running at 120fps on the console you wouldn't see it you need a monitor with 120hz to notice the increase 😂
@SIPEROTH 5 күн бұрын
@@nathanconnolly395 My PC monitor is 144Hz. That is a decent refresh rate. I play games on my PC too. Sure my console is connected to a 60Hz TV panel instead of my PC monitor but when i play some 30fps games i don't feel is unplayable because i can use a 144hz monitor. My smartphone also has 120HZ screen as well so yeah i have high refresh devices. Yes if i try to do direct comparison i can see the extra smoothness but that is only if i try to make comparisons going back and fourth etc. If i just come back from work tired and i click my console and sit and play on my TV a 30fps locked game i can still enjoy my self just fine without feeling the game plays bad. You people are too stuck on comparing back and forth which is why you feel like OMG, i can play 30fps anymore after this etc. I admit some specific games can make you feel that way but many other games not really. You people also heavily underestimate the importance of stable framerate over high frame rate. Many times i play games on my PC with much higher fps and feel worse than playing a 30fps locked steady on a console because the lack of stability and even stutters that can appear make it much worse experience than a 30fps stable. If i click on my PS3 or the Switch to play some of those unstable games that are jumping between 20 and 30 fps and the console can't get them to be 30 stable then it really does feel bad, but if i click on my PS4 Pro or PS5 and play high settings with 30 stable then it feels amazingly better.
@M.sami12 5 күн бұрын
Game devs are not stupid and mark cerny is absolutely right, most people who buy consoles are casual normies, they don't care about 30 or 60 fps but they do care if the game looks stunning or not. That's simply the reason why we still have 30fps on consoles.
@thehurts9216 5 күн бұрын
That's not true at all. I mean, the part about normies is, sure, but the reason we don't have a 60fps standard is because consoles can't run modern games at 60fps while simultaneously looking really good. Modern games and game engines far outpace console hardware and console companies are already selling the hardware at a loss in hopes that they make a return on the games. For consoles to play games at a minimum of 60 fps while retaining high fidelity visuals they need to cost $1k at which point your in gaming PC Territory.
@iPh1l1pp 5 күн бұрын
Yes. This is why I switched to pc lol
@BanditTools 5 күн бұрын
You also have normies that unironically tell you there is zero difference between 30 fps and 144 fps. Consoles love the lowest common denominator since they care very little about performance
@SIPEROTH 5 күн бұрын
@@thehurts9216 Nope. That is false. Is all about developer work. Games can look quite good in 60fps. Developers just don't want to miss that extra little wow factor for 60fps. Not that a game will look awful if it's 60, they just don't do the correct development work for a game at 60. Even if PS5 has twice the power developers will still be putting more pretty effects instead of making stable high resolution 60 or trying a 120fps mode etc. It doesn't matter how much power you give developers. They will use all of it for prettier graphics to impress the normies with the good looks of their game.
@Skylancer727 5 күн бұрын
Yeah but I think the industry should realize we don't need emasculate graphics anymore. We've had well past good enough for years with games like Mass Effect 3 or Dead Space 2 still looking modern 12 years later on hardware that was 40 times weaker. Like yeah Spiderman 2 looked better, but was it 40 times better? And then they even gave the option of 60fps and if so, why not use it? I know even long before I knew what frame rate was I'd noticed some games feeling different than others. I still remember thinking Burnout 3 while uglier than NFSU2 always felt so much nicer. Even if you don't recognize the benefit you do still benefit from it. Not to mention in the quest for flashy graphics we've also made games more chaotic and fast which makes the changes in frame rate even more apparent. But I do think we need to move on from games needing to look flawless like a movie. We've well past needing to prove it's possible and this added effort is making games take longer and cutting into the budgets of fleshing them out and bug testing. I still remember how in 10 years we got Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST, and Reach all of which were extremely high fidelity games. We just don't get that anymore. Even Uncharted had 1-3 each come in 2 year increments, then 4 took 5 years. This quest for the highest fidelity has actively cut into how many games we're getting.
@arjun220 5 күн бұрын
Got to thank Mark for making ps5 backwards compatible with ps4 I just hope with the ps6 it will be backwards compatible with ps5 & ps4.
@Jumsut_ 5 күн бұрын
PS6 should be backwards compatible with the entire PS catalogue. It should be powerful enough by that point to emulate PS3 games at higher resolutions.
@Mr.TrUnrBrigs-oo4yz 4 күн бұрын
Yeah the ps3 break is cause Cell cpu is so non-standard shelf cpus cant copy it.
@ThePreciseClimber 3 күн бұрын
@@Jumsut_ True. Hopefully, Full backwards compatibility will become the standard on PS6. Bloody PS3 threw a spanner in the works with its wonky architecture. Couldn't have PS2 backwards compatibility without putting the actual PS2 guts inside the PS3 (which was too expensive so they scrapped it) and then PS4 couldn't handle PS3 BC because the architecture was too weird. Although the weaksauce PS2 emulation on PS4 was definitely Sony's failure. Especially compared to Xbox & X360 BC on Xbox One.
@Jumsut_ 17 сағат бұрын
@@ThePreciseClimber Yeah, as cool as CELL can be it resulted in a very rough first half of 7th gen for sony and ended up handing their backwards compatible heritage directly to xbox
@HelioJorgeRodrigues 5 күн бұрын
That guy is a very chill person and nice. And speaks very well and clean. I really like him... Is one of the few people from the game industry is not ahole
@zanychelly 5 күн бұрын
60 FPS >>> Than graphical features
@x0Fang0x 5 күн бұрын
Depends on the game. If it's like hellblade and Until Dawn i don't mind.
@inxine 5 күн бұрын
depends ha. id rather have a stable 30 than a shaky 60
@BlackSnake1602 5 күн бұрын
I always go for quality mode. I am resolution junkie 😊
@cctv2500 5 күн бұрын
@@BlackSnake1602Same
@zanychelly 5 күн бұрын
@@x0Fang0xA movie like game, ok. But a game like Stellar Blade, Elden Ring and Uncharted. 60 FPS are much better to play.
@RyanStorey1231 5 күн бұрын
I really do respect Mark Cerny. He's been in the industry for a long time, seems really in touch with gamers and is genuinely a fan of the medium that he works in, and he's been at the forefront of Sony's two most recent consoles to great success. The PS5, while the software side leaves a lot to be desired, is still an impressive piece of tech. Everything about the PS5 from its unique design, its controller, its UI, its power and features... while all iterative of what the PS4 already accomplished, is still the best version of what PlayStation represents. This console generation leaves a lot to be desired for a multitude of reasons, but the PS5 is still a technical marvel to me. When the man passes away someday, I genuinely think that he'll be looked at the same way Satoru Iwata is by Nintendo fans.
@therealferlop 5 күн бұрын
Ryan I went to too many games today on Sunday not expecting to see you there pretty upset. Than I saw you there thank you for taking a picture with me and being so cool !
@Melbester9 5 күн бұрын
Glad you did this video. I agree with Mark Cerny on all these questions he had for the generation. Games do take way too long. I miss the fifth and sixth gen days when games didnt take long to make. They would come out with new games every couple months. Then seventh gen we had to wait a 1-2 years for a game. I just hope Mark gets a chance for PS7 but we know he's out after PS6. He's done a great job for lead architect for PS4 & PS5 after Ken Kutaragi left. They definitely need to release games sooner and more games for PS6 gen. Pandemic held PS5 gen back. 60 FPS with good visual fidelity better be perfected. I can't wait for PS6 reveal and what ideas Mark comes up with console hardware design and features.
@tomsimmons7673 5 күн бұрын
Crazy. Cerny has been making games as long as I have been playing them. He doesn't look that old.
@Dragonfury3000 5 күн бұрын
That's because graphics already peaked with ps4 now we can focus on performance more.
@joseijosei 5 күн бұрын
No, it's because the vast majority of the time you are still playing PS4 games.
@Dragonfury3000 5 күн бұрын
@@joseijosei The games look good that's what matters
@joseijosei 5 күн бұрын
@@Dragonfury3000 But graphics didn't peak with PS4. If they did, then you wouldn't get games like Hellblade 2. The reason why a lot of games run at 60 fps is because we are still playing games that can run on a PS4, not because graphics peaked with a PS4. Those games didn't even look like Escape From Tarkov, and that game is playable since 2017.
@He_isI 5 күн бұрын
@@joseijoseiIf the XSS wasn’t a relative PS4 Pro in disguise of a current generation console, maybe Hellblade 2 could natively run 60fps.
@InfiniteXV1 5 күн бұрын
@@joseijosei hellblade 2 is not the bench mark for visuals lots of other games look as good if not better even on the ps4. The only reason we have a lot of games that can still run on last gen is because of the huge amount of players on them. There are still games that definitely can’t run on ps4:sm2, rift apart, baldurs gate 3
@eppy5630 5 күн бұрын
I would rather have every game be like DMC5 a great looking 1080p game that does 120fps. seeing every strand of hair is something we do not need in video game.
@kylespevak6781 5 күн бұрын
1080p has been more than fine for me
@caliginousmoira8565 5 күн бұрын
amen.
@jerardtan 5 күн бұрын
You guys haven't tried gaming on 4K yet, have you?
@shrekrealista5045 5 күн бұрын
@@jerardtanThere's no point of 4k if they don't have a big screen
@OmegaRejectz 5 күн бұрын
@@jerardtanyou meaning watching a PowerPoint presentation at 4K?
@rakz_world 5 күн бұрын
I'm surprised too honestly, I expected 60fps to be a launch thing. The fact that we are almost 4 years into the generation and still getting 60fps games is insane.
@ps4games164 5 күн бұрын
you are insane
@TreyKan999 5 күн бұрын
@@ps4games164you are insane
@tyraelkamh1875 5 күн бұрын
Why is it insane? Isnt the ps5 a 6700xt? EVERY GAME SHOULD BE 60 FPS
@mmarshfairc3 5 күн бұрын
99% of games are
@blackstar-genX 5 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say all of them or a proper 60. But still better than 30 any day.
@legendaryskinman7305 5 күн бұрын
And hes right the STUDIOS are choosing to make these 5 year live service games. They could be making great single player games then creating a sequel where you would already have work completed for sequels. The studios are shooting themselves in the foot looking for huge live service payouts
@Deliveredmean42 5 күн бұрын
Open worlds, live service, 60+ hours of content. Surely the trifecta of spending all these resource... with a chance of failure rate in every corner.
@ICEMANZIDANE 5 күн бұрын
What? I think you are mixing up stuff here. He referred to high quality AAA Games like TLoU, Uncharted etc. You are talking about live service games. Live service games in particular dont have the quality standards of these high quality AAA Games. They are supported for many years, yes, but the development of the game doesnt take that long. After release a team consisted of a few employees will be created and they will create the content for the live service aspect…
@AndersonTenecela 5 күн бұрын
But gamers are complaining about single player games
@Wolfanoz 5 күн бұрын
One of Mark Cernys first efforts was Marble Madness for the arcades for Atari. Games still great.
@stevenchan3822 5 күн бұрын
The dreamcast had a good library of games that ran 60fps, good old days!
@worlds_greatest_detective6667 4 күн бұрын
Didn’t they advertise Ps5 at 120??? And now he’s surprised that most cross gen games run at 60????? I’m so tired of Sony, I’ll just build a PC after 25 years of gaming. I’ve even owned every PlayStation since the Ps era.
@chasejackson7248 3 күн бұрын
No one cares.
@jollyj4897 Күн бұрын
@@chasejackson7248💀
@khursaadt 14 сағат бұрын
@@chasejackson7248you cared enough to comment.
@willyboinka1070 5 күн бұрын
This channel is criminally underrated
@Navierstokes256 5 күн бұрын
He just reads out an interview for you in video form lol. Barely any additional insight.
@LimeGuy101 5 күн бұрын
He has 800k subs I'd say he's fairly popular
@kindahangingoutwaiting1922 5 күн бұрын
how is he "criminally underrated" with almost 800k subs??
@DaREALReddie 5 күн бұрын
Lol shuddup
@kxngpark 5 күн бұрын
@@kindahangingoutwaiting1922 in fairness, in the grand scheme of youtube and the utter shit that is on here which somehow garners 10s of millions of subs, i definitely would say Mystic is underrated/underappreciated.
@ronniefazzio6979 5 күн бұрын
I didn’t expect a reference to Every Which Way But Loose.
@TUKMAK 5 күн бұрын
Platinuming Neon White is psychotic. That shit is so unbelievably hard
@silverian 5 күн бұрын
Thank You for Mark Cerny update!
@aaron_aplin 5 күн бұрын
I would take 1080p at 120fps all day every day if i could get it.
@stannisthemannis5535 4 күн бұрын
I played destiny 2 crucible at 120 and I didn't see a difference from 60
@aaron_aplin 4 күн бұрын
@stannisthemannis5535 Its definitely smoother for sure. Its acrually VERY noticeable if you go from 60 to the 120hz mode on Spiderman Remastered.
@Lennox032 4 күн бұрын
@@stannisthemannis5535 You don't SEE any difference, It's the responsiveness of player input.
@stannisthemannis5535 4 күн бұрын
@@Lennox032 that makes sense but what I'm saying is that the responsiveness is not the same as going from 30 to 60
@osamaalbadani2322 4 күн бұрын
and with Ray-tracing, that would be amazing
@Mastercar77 5 күн бұрын
Time to triangle is not the time that takes to render a single triangle on screen. But the time studios need to implement their technology to run at a good acceptable state.
@Mcnooblet 5 күн бұрын
I think the tough part of 60fps and making an affordable console in general, is the gains you make as time goes on as far as hardware resources, you have to pretty much figure out how you are going to use those. While the PS4/Xbone generation had significant limitations in the CPU area, both utilizing a Jaguar tablet style CPU, the PS5/XBX generation doesn't have that same issue with the Xen 2 which is more than capable of 60fps in majority of games, even 120fps in a lot of cases (it's almost always GPU bottlenecked on these consoles). I know many out there think the reason they are getting 30fps in games is due to the CPU like it was in the PS4/Xbone generation, and I think PS5 Pro will really surprise some folks, POSSIBLY. Game developers will have a choice to make, to use the added GPU resources of upgraded hardware for visual fidelity, or possibility keep it looking graphically the same as PS5 and just increase the FPS from 30fps to 60fps. I think with Sony trying to do its own machine learning (ML) upscaling, I think they are going to attempt to do both, or sacrifice one for RT (probably 60fps since RT is heavy). While had almost every console from Sony, some from Microsoft, and even a 13900k/4090 PC in which I'm always GPU bottlenecked (4k gaming of course), I had started up a game I never finished on my PS4 because it made it sound like a jet engine, and started playing it at a 4k as close to 120fps as possible (get too high of fps and textures won't load). That game is AC Unity, which I'm actually blown away by on a CPU level. So many NPCs with amazing scripts an AI that they don't even look like NPCs. Plays going on, people going on stage, different movement cycles that have yet to strike me as a repeat. Just stunning. The game was way too ambitious for the PS4/Xbone generation for sure, and even on my 13900k it puts it to work. As many that scream "UnOpTiMiZeD!! Lazy devs" I think feel that everything can be fixed with a little optimization. While it's true to an extent, in AC Unitys case it had to be addition by subtraction which also pissed off a lot of people. (some expect optimization means to give all with no compromises to give all). Long story short, people are buying these cheaper consoles and ultimately developers are trying to decide whether to pursue lower graphics, with 60fps, and a possibility of a current gen looking visually not much better than previous gen, but 60fps, or really pushing the visuals to settle on a 30fps mark. I think PS5 Pro will do very well, and I really don't think they needed much of a CPU upgrade anyways but extra GPU resources and memory bandwidth. Just watch, we will see more 60fps games than most think, and varied options between 60fps and graphical fidelity being pretty widespread. With UE5 it will be a struggle still to sell an affordable console while running 60fps, which is why their ML upscaling will hopefully be pretty good.
@waketp420 5 күн бұрын
I expected more games
@caliginousmoira8565 5 күн бұрын
games are taking longer to make..... especially since people want 4k+.
@waketp420 5 күн бұрын
@@caliginousmoira8565 Cool. That's not my problem. That's their problem. Doesn't excuse the lack of first party showings.
@JelaniSuper 5 күн бұрын
@@caliginousmoira8565 Computers, dev kits, and everything else needed to make a game are faster and more advanced than ever. Companies just work slower nowadays
@waketp420 5 күн бұрын
@@StingRayo98 So it's my problem that this generation has barely any first party exclusives? Make it make sense. Nothing changes that fact lol Again. Not my problem.
@AllThingsInfamous1 5 күн бұрын
It's easy to get disappointed when you have massive expectations
@rashidhumine 5 күн бұрын
I'm expecting the Ps6 to have 120 FPS at 1440p and 60 FPS at 4K as the Standard.
@octaviohernandez3 5 күн бұрын
And 30 to 40 fps in 8k
@BlackSkyZ2 5 күн бұрын
lol. wake up to reality, little teenager. Consoles are for budget gamers. If u want 4k or 8k and talk about fps, u get a pc.
@dziankolack9331 5 күн бұрын
@@BlackSkyZ2dude being elitist about what box you buy is the most childish thing
@BlackSkyZ2 4 күн бұрын
@@dziankolack9331 it’s called being realistic. One machine is 500-600$, the other is 1000$+
@jskiillzent.9985 4 күн бұрын
I love him more now that I know he plays video games
@AustinPS97 5 күн бұрын
I've read the interview with Mark and it's a very good and interesting article to read! I personally feel like every first party or third party game should ship with a 60 fps mode and a balanced 4K 40 fps mode with or without ray tracing. Also, more devolopers should add the 120 Hz display option as well since most people who have 4K TVs or 4K monitors can support it.
@Skylancer727 5 күн бұрын
I think the push for 60fps was an obvious target for current gen as graphics have already started to plateau. I even recently went back to Mass Effect 3 from 2012 and still looks nearly as good as they highest budget games coming out now: and that game came out on PS3 and Xbox 360. I do think we're at the point now where the added effort isn't nearly as warranted anymore as we've been well past good enough for a while now. And people only just moved to 4K and in the modern era of temporal rendering 4K isn't even that spectacularly better than lower res. Do most people even notice that their games are running at 1440p with scaling vs true 4K?
@fajaradi1223 5 күн бұрын
High refresh rate display with VRR is quite affordable rn. There's no reason staying locked on 30fps.
@joseijosei 5 күн бұрын
Monitors? Sure. TVs? Not so much. There are no reasons to stay locked at 30 fps, but there are no reasons to not give you the option to not be, like on Elden Ring. Bad frametime still sucks, and VRR has a range, and games like Baldur's Gate 3, Elden Ring or Dragon's Dogma 2 are at many times below it, so... having the option to lock your framerate is always nice.
@jaythomas468 5 күн бұрын
It’s WEIRD to me that even the lead architect thought there wouldn’t be this much of a “push” for 60FPS framerates. MAYBE he thought more developers would be pushing visual fidelity to the brink to where 60FPS simply wouldn’t be possible? I don’t know; my personal stance is I’m GOOD with the current push for higher average framerates since I’ve honestly been FINE with the level of visual fidelity that games have been able to ACHIEVE for like 2-3 generations now.
@richardnester7203 5 күн бұрын
There is a reason GTA6 is 30 fps. Because they are REALLY pushing boundaries as all game devs should. The problem is too many people will complain if a game is 30 fps but is a true current gen game. So instead they have to have restrictions in games in order to have a 60 fps mode. So, you can thank the nerds complaining for 60 fps for the lack of true current gen games.
@rayder3543 4 күн бұрын
You can thank the nerds asking for more graphics rather than better games if most AAAs have become so stale in the last years.
@grm6486 5 күн бұрын
60 fps > best possible graphics
@user-tp5yb4hr4w 5 күн бұрын
i don't want every game to look like fortnight, but i also want my at the very least 60fps. and i know they can do it with todays hardware, they just seem to choose the visuals over the performance in most cases, which is a damn shame.
@hurricane7727 5 күн бұрын
Too many games have unreal engine now. On the Ps2 they all looked different
@user-tp5yb4hr4w 5 күн бұрын
@@hurricane7727 idk about that, i have seen enough unreal engine games that look too similar to each other, not all of them look good or play well either, like that glum game that was made, eventually you know it's a game done in Unreal. but yeah they kind of screwed themselves on that game.
@scepticskeptic1663 5 күн бұрын
marble madness!!! ill never forget the first time i saw it and heard it
@rethinking3289 5 күн бұрын
What an amazing man with inspiring career
@urbanshadow777 5 күн бұрын
We have to make 60fps the standard. Going back to 30fps games from 60 is like going back a generation in hardware. Yes graphics are important but stability is way more important , especially when games already look as good as they do. I would easily give up some better looking lighting for fps any day of the week
@albert2006xp 5 күн бұрын
It's mental to me to run into this video that treats 60 FPS like it's this wild thing and not the bare minimum FPS you should tune settings for if you have to.
@saatvikkalra6061 5 күн бұрын
@@albert2006xpConsidering the fact that we're 4 YEARS into this generation and 60 fps is not the bare minimum w every game is fucking insane. Pc has had high framerates for 10 YEARS
@MansMan42069 5 күн бұрын
"We have to" is what most people like you who are commenting don't get. It's on you to make it the standard. Go join the industry.
@mikem2253 5 күн бұрын
In a world of VRR, we need uncapped options for all games. Don’t stop at 60fps if you have the right hardware.
@marklaskey7780 4 күн бұрын
Excellent video Ryan mate love your playstation content
@lionheart4424 4 күн бұрын
I joined the PC Master race world last year, and I was surprised to see that loading times of the PS5 are almost just as fast as in PC depending on the game. Mark did an outstanding job with the recent PlayStation architectures!
@casemarios6209 5 күн бұрын
imagine the games we'll get in the future
@HaohmaruHL 5 күн бұрын
Like, the PS5 games, but on Steam and at a good price instead? The future is now.
@victory7763 5 күн бұрын
@@HaohmaruHLFinal Fantasy VII Rebirth is my goty
@putyograsseson 5 күн бұрын
@@HaohmaruHLsteam and good price doesn’t work since you can’t re-sell after you finish a game
@HaohmaruHL 5 күн бұрын
@@putyograsseson It's OK, I may feel the need to play them again in the future. Games not taking any physical space is a plus for me. Some devs started making you download the game from the internet with the disc just being the activation tool to allow you boot that game anyway. So it's not always 100% physical anymore. I've had a retro game collection before but I've never touched those game cartridges and disc's ever again to actually play them, and opted for the emulation when I wanted to replay them. Nostalgia is nostalgia but after 10 minutes of pretending you're enjoying it on the original hardware and your old dusty CRT you'd eventually want to enhance your experience with features like the clearer picture, smoother gameplay, button remaps, saves etc. I mean, playing demons souls on ps3 back in 2009 was cool and all but I can play it 60fps on my steam deck now wherever I go. The ps3 disc has been gathering dust since then. Why should I still keep it? The fear mongering like "you don't own those games" isn't affecting me since if I'd want to play a game that isn't available anymore I'll easily find other ways to play it. The games were simply taking lots of space, and it became a problem when I moved, so I eventually got rid of all them. Game devs won't care about a bunch of physical media enthusiasts and will still do as they find fit anyway.
@putyograsseson 5 күн бұрын
@@HaohmaruHL hmm yeah I tend to not have the need to replay games so I just get rid of them
@He_isI 5 күн бұрын
Mr. Cerny is the sole reason I trust gaming on my PS5 and beyond. I’m glad he’s around!
@caphowdy666 5 күн бұрын
I think the thing with the graphics vs framerate argument is that things have changed drastically over the last decade or so. We as console players were so used to 30fps, unless you also gamed on a PC, you did not notice how bad 30fps was because that is all you knew. Also, you only have to look at the backlash with the first Watchdogs game, and how much it was slated for having to dial the graphics back for the consoles. At this point in time, console owners were prioritising graphics over almost everything else. Now graphics are not as vastly different between console generations and we have become more accustomed to 60fps, we would rather sacrifice a small amount of graphical fidelity if it means higher frame rate.
@krispydream6907 Күн бұрын
Honestly '''Favor Performance''' and '''Favor Resolution''' should be only one and not two separate options in today's console standards. The only options that I want to see in graphics are HDR On or Off and the Brightness in all AAA games.
@JustinPinedaMedia 5 күн бұрын
I’ll never forget how Cerny indirectly trolls on PS3 and it’s complicated Cell architecture. He probably tried so hard not to diss Kutaragi.
@arioca 5 күн бұрын
The PS3 and every other prior Sony Japanese PlayStation developed architecture were much more ambitious than the PS4 and PS5 American consoles.
@shmookins 5 күн бұрын
I can't wait for the leaks and speculations about PS6 two years from launch. Those times are the most exciting. Still two more years to go before the fun begins.
@Gremiyuns 5 күн бұрын
💀💀💀
@robtennant98 5 күн бұрын
Some games would be nice..
@He_isI 5 күн бұрын
@@robtennant98There are plenty of games to be played. Maybe you should get a high tier of PS+. PS only held back this year on its games because there isn’t any reason to put the best out. IMO, I think they gambled on MS’s showcase to feature what’s coming next year on Xbox so PS can already have a strong line up ready for competition.
@xNemesis_ 5 күн бұрын
@@He_isIfunny you say that when the PS player base is split between PS4 and PS5. Sure you can say it's because of 2020 or x and y but the result is that ppl won't switch for now and that impact some studio who sells only on PS5 (like Square Enix). Hell even the next Cod is on PS4, i think only GTA will bump up the sales of PS5 and xbox series X/S
@MegaMaster1021 5 күн бұрын
I feel so sorry for you
@MehulMewal 5 күн бұрын
I bought a prebuilt lenovo PC in 2021 at the peak of semi conductor and parts shortage. I got myself a 1660 Super just so I can play relatively new games at medium to high settings on 60 fps on my old 1080p tv. 1660 super is working fine for me and I'm also using lossless scaling app wherever required.
@GH42069 5 күн бұрын
Question for you Mystic. Do you think 60 fps will be the norm for big title games in the ps6? Because as far as visual fidelity, I don’t see game companies really focusing much on rendering 8K since the improvement from 4K is so minimal on anything smaller than huge TVs.
@bnbnism 5 күн бұрын
The answer is sort of, games will sorta target 4K 60fps for the most part but then they'll have varying quality of ray tracing and upscaling and frame generation so hard to put it as "just 4k 60" yano
@Krypto121 5 күн бұрын
My girlfriend still plays on PS4 and always wonders why I prefer 60 FPS on PC or PS5 when it's offered. She played RE4 Remake on my PC, and it only took about an hour for her to go "I see why people prefer 60 FPS over 30 now." For me, it's always been about the smoothness of camera movement in third or first person games. The jutter that comes with 30 FPS camera movement is just horrible now after playing at 60 for a few years. Personally, I wish developers would just dial back settings and ensure the game runs at 60 FPS than focus on 4K. 4K is 4 times as demanding as 1080p, and when the best you can achieve is 4K 30, maybe it's just not worth it.
@tacothunder2298 5 күн бұрын
that smoothness of camera movement is the main reason why 30fps is an issue. And that problem is completely gone at 40-45fps. If that was the minimium target we wouldn't be having this conversation about 30 vs 60.
@Krypto121 5 күн бұрын
@@tacothunder2298 But mah gwaficks! That's what the people would say when the resolution is 1080p going forward. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
@Alcatraz760 5 күн бұрын
The fact that developing a console takes less time than games is genuinely sad.
@NiceDiggz 5 күн бұрын
Games shouldn't take no more then 3yrs if you have your team working 24/7.. Day Shift and Night Shift. If One Guy can make a game that looks amazing then 100 ppl should do it too
@TheCoolgame24 5 күн бұрын
@@NiceDiggz so you want devs to work like slaves with no sleep and no food just for you to get games you dont know how much it takes to make a game
@demonface2712 Күн бұрын
If consoles are becoming more like PCs then it could make sense!
@RoBoTNiKaa 4 күн бұрын
The man has so much knowledge, thank you Mr Cerny 🙏
@SebastianSkadisson 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, consoles are now not only battling with PC and handheld PC-based consoles like Steam Deck and ROG Ally, they are also combatting the very thing they were relying on: TVs. Smart TVs now all offer some sort of Gaming Hub that allows to connect a controller. And the only saving grace a console has is the better performance over what a Smart TV can do with running the game on a cloud platform.
@ProjectGameVault 5 күн бұрын
Those 30fps fidelity modes are unplayable
@Kapono5150 5 күн бұрын
URE5 doesn’t get along well with consoles. Expect many more 30 frames experience going forward
@StarkZaku 5 күн бұрын
Just like unreal engune 4 when it dropped. Time will tell
@Powerman293 5 күн бұрын
UE5 was made for consoles that do not exist yet. It's so absurdly demanding for no reason.
@CaptToilet 4 күн бұрын
Ue5 doesn't get along with anything. It pretty much requires upscaling.
@mustafab.5261 5 күн бұрын
Mystic what ps vr2 do you recommend
@wayneswirl 5 күн бұрын
I remember before the launch of PS5 there were so many videos telling people what TVs and cables to use otherwise they wont get 4K 60fps. It seemed like that was going to be the standard. It disappointingly is not.
@nathandawson2762 5 күн бұрын
Tried to play evil west on PS5 the other day. I just can’t do 30fps anymore it gives me a headache
@ogamitaicho77 5 күн бұрын
I understand what you mean, I had the same trouble with ff16 that is so unstable evne in performance mode... Elden Ring has big trouble too. Let's hope that it will be fixed on PS5 Pro.. 🙄
@joseijosei 5 күн бұрын
@@ogamitaicho77You say that like if Sony will send a PS5 Pro to any PS5 user.
@ogamitaicho77 Күн бұрын
@@joseijosei Lol that would be great but nope it's not what I said, just your reading or interpretation... 🙄 You just may have guessed that I was intending to buy a PS5 Pro, nothing more, nothing less ! 😉
@joseijosei Күн бұрын
@@ogamitaicho77 My point is that, even if games run better on the PS5 Pro, that changes nothing for people using PS5s.
@ogamitaicho77 Күн бұрын
@@joseijosei Sure but as I am mainly a console player for some reasons, I'm not that shocked by mid gen updates if this allows to play in better conditions during the last years of a console generation, especially if it's your main gaming system... It's not because you will not buy a PS5 Pro that the base PS5 will become instantly obsolete... Games will not work with optimal settings with both performances + resolution but they will still be OK. The situation is worse for PC players and all the range of different GPU that are available on the market every years... It's not because you have a 2 or 3 years GPU that it will be out of use and will not run the current games, you will just play in less good conditions than a just released GPU. This hobby is dependent on technology and I will not excuse me to intend to buy a PS5 Pro or be able to afford one... 🙄
@user-ph8or3wn5r 5 күн бұрын
Cerny & Sony engineers RULES!.
@3Rayfire 4 күн бұрын
When building a PC at console specs, is he taking into account that at launch, consoles are usually sold at a loss?
@Xsetsu 5 күн бұрын
RT performance even on a 4090 at native is still a slide show (something like Cyberpunk maxed RTing at 4k is still like 15-30fps), so we are still a few generations off from having ubiquitous RT in games. Sure DLSS/FSR helps with that but we are already pushing it to its limits already. Developers really focus more on providing a better experience with higher frame rates than trying to force every bell and whistle. It doesn't have to be 60fps but 40fps+ with VRR is a nice compromise.
@noodles9345 5 күн бұрын
That quote about not expecting gamers to prefer 60FPS over higher fidelity at 30FPS is really surprising. Just shows me that so many people running the show and making games are obsessed with the presentation and marketing rather than the actual gameplay being the presentation and marketing. Many probably aren't even gamers in the way that people like us watching these videos are. No sensible person that plays games and has their eyes out there would think that. Especially if they have ever even looked at a PC game before.
@johnjohnson6142 5 күн бұрын
That’s not what he said tho 2:46 “Gamers overwhelmingly prefer games that are at higher frame rates. I just didn’t expect such a departure from previous generations” It’s morso he didn’t believe the industry pushed for it
@BuildLancer 5 күн бұрын
When these companies announce "the most powerful Playstation/Xbox ever!" I expect that shit to run games at 60fps.
@iPh1l1pp 5 күн бұрын
This means nothing. Is marketing.
@hurricane7727 5 күн бұрын
Ps2 I think had higher fps games
@TheCoolgame24 5 күн бұрын
just stop ps5 never said they had the most powerful xbox did and it show they not all that powerful because all their first party is not 60 fps
@pickledyart 5 күн бұрын
@TheCoolgame24 Wrong. Quit spreading misinformation.
@TheCoolgame24 5 күн бұрын
@@pickledyart show me in video playstation said that ps5 is the most powerful console ever show me
@illeniux6476 5 күн бұрын
Make a PS5 UI wish list video 🙏
@ssgtblackmamba7991 16 сағат бұрын
Mark is a very intelligent man, he knows that comparing a 500 dollar pc to a 500 dollar console is not the same...if all my pc did was play games, then yes....but even then you need to take into account the cost of gaming (especially online) over the generations lifespan. Consoles are not cheaper, but they have their purpose.
@Wiiillllson151 5 күн бұрын
I'm just waiting for the Cerny Ps5 pro overview at this point. Waiting.... waiting patiently!
@AlFred-vr1ty 5 күн бұрын
😢me too I don't have any play s now
@shanebluesky7452 5 күн бұрын
Bro from ps3 era. Following this guy and now im close to getting married. And dude still there showing games and Playstation 😂👍
@naf546 2 күн бұрын
I wonder if one of the consoles next generation is going to move to ARM based chips. I’m thinking about the performance difference between Apple Silicone and Intel chips and consoles form factor also striving to be compact to reduce material costs.
@joshski21 5 күн бұрын
love the vids ryan
@kill3rbyysight 5 күн бұрын
Tech Linus is an "andhbhakt" that's wat we call someone who blindly believes in something... here in India .. he is an andhbhakt of PC... even wen PS5 was gonna launch.. he made it sure to downplay dualsense features everytime he got chance... and he calls himself a gamer... I mean anything which immerses me more in gaming should b a welcome thing or atleast you should look it with curiosity instead of straight way just denying it without even using it.. he has always been an... u know... he even made some video apologizing for some remark he made about PS5 SSD but wen he understood the tech and wat was being talked... he simply made a video apologising... *SMH* some ppl never learn
@MakZakk 5 күн бұрын
can’t wait for the moment Cerny presents PS5 Pro!
@DeadPhoenix86DP 5 күн бұрын
Or the PS6 ;)
@kriss5081 5 күн бұрын
@@DeadPhoenix86DPOr the Ps6 Pro ;)
@DeadPhoenix86DP 5 күн бұрын
@@kriss5081 Or the PS7 ;)
@secondchance6603 4 күн бұрын
@@kriss5081 Perhaps if/when that comes out so will The Last Of Us Part 1: Remade, Enhanced Re-Edited Extended Directors Master Cut Plus Golden Limited Pre-Order Edition
@DavidFregoli 5 күн бұрын
60 fps just means they can render at lower resolution. the cpu headroom is there because games have not evolved enough (or are trying too much to be cross-gen and cross-plat) to use the new cpus to enhance the experience in terms of simulation, characters density and so on.
@micksterminator3 Күн бұрын
I've been aiming for 60 fps since 2008 when i got a 9800gt. Console has been so far behind for so long. It's wild it has taken so long to catch up
@HdezJorge13 5 күн бұрын
That’s funny, he says he was surprised to see 60fps games but put 4K/120 on the box 😂
@DrCZR 5 күн бұрын
And the box even used to say 8k 😂
@justjaaay696 5 күн бұрын
wouldnt that be more of a marketing decision?
@oo7porschemgs995 5 күн бұрын
He said he is surprised to see how MANY games support 60fps, he didn't say he was surprised to see 60fps games ;)
@heavyartillery-qm5hu 5 күн бұрын
Gamers expected more 60fps games
@victory7763 5 күн бұрын
Every goty nom runs at 60fps... what are you playing?
@BlackSkyZ2 3 күн бұрын
Yet the majority play on ps4
@maineman5757 4 күн бұрын
Mark Cerny has been around for a long time. He's respected.
@xdragonneonx 4 күн бұрын
60fps makes a game more addictive and can increase replay value. Based off the games I've played 30fps story campaigns I never really bothered to go back to once I finished them
@MonCappy 5 күн бұрын
The PS5 Pro is only the product of rumor. We don't knows that it exists.
@jaysauce13 5 күн бұрын
It's all but confirmed at this point. The leakers of the info are proven sources and the main guy who started this talk, MooresLawIsDead, pretty much laid out all of the pro specs on his channel
@mohammed_mana3944 5 күн бұрын
It is a thing. There are leaked documents about it having PSSR AI upscaler. Sony asking for the guy who leaked them to take it down proves it’s real.
@AllThingsInfamous1 5 күн бұрын
It's real.
@Crimsongz 5 күн бұрын
It is real
@edisjd 5 күн бұрын
The avg gamer doesn't care about 60fps, they still play their games at 30fps, studies have been done, it's only the hardcore that prefer 60fps, sacred symbols even talked about this not too long ago
@homerhat420 Сағат бұрын
I wish console devs focused more on 60 or 120fps 1440p before jumping right to 4k 30.
@buddy7136 5 күн бұрын
Now most games havw a performance and fidelity modes I would be curious to see the stats that most people use. Personally i play performance. Give me a smoother experience over all the shiny bits.
@DontForgetOldKolobok 5 күн бұрын
77"+ screens are common now...30fps is like sandpaper over your eyes on large displays
@tacothunder2298 5 күн бұрын
true, i love my PS3 even more than both my ps4 and ps5, but playing it on a 50" tv hurts. I could never finish Drakengard 3 because of it. It literally strains the eyes.
@thefallenbog 5 күн бұрын
@@tacothunder2298 I think that was mainly because especially Drakengard 3 was dipping into 10-15 FPS territory 😅
@spark556 5 күн бұрын
Every game should be 4K & 60fps minimum.
@user-ph8or3wn5r 5 күн бұрын
Movie's etc too Movie's 24 fps lol NINTENDO'S HD lol 50 buck's lol 30fps brokenness shovelware pass to GARBAGE steam or 3rd parties TRASH etc: 30fps Marches on 😂 endlessly patches too.
@ericbaker8781 5 күн бұрын
@@user-ph8or3wn5ryou must really stupid if you think they should start filming movies in 60fps. The hobbit films already tried and failed to distribute a film at a higher framerate. Gamers need to stop talking about things they don’t know about
@novelezra 5 күн бұрын
We are making consoles where it takes 6 months to get to 'hello world' then maybe we arent going about things the right way
@Oldman86nl Күн бұрын
Mystic man I follow you on psn profiles you don’t hunt the last times man but good video man
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