Lead Musket Balls Are Very Soft

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Brandon F.

Brandon F.

5 жыл бұрын

If you are interested in reading more about the ballistics of musket balls, or seeing a lot more images similar to what you've seen in this video, here is good article: modernheritage.net/Scott_etal_...
I was once told that a musket shot needed to be perfectly round, lest it actually lose all its effect and possibly even 'boomerang' around back to the man who fired it...and when I was a child, that sounded fair enough. After all, it was a reenactor who told me it! Surely he would know best...but in reality, it would have been exceptionally rare for a musket ball to ever approach 'perfect roundness'!
Musket balls, being made of lead, are highly malleable! So this video is effectively just a ten minute ramble about some of the implications of this, including the manner in which a musket ball will impact a body in relation to a modern bullet.
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@sparkymmilarky
@sparkymmilarky 5 жыл бұрын
10:30 - De-syncronizing from Animus, please return to play area
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 5 жыл бұрын
He already glitched a cutscene at 10:14
@lephantomchickn3676
@lephantomchickn3676 5 жыл бұрын
Damn optional objectives!
@CannedBread-mz2tx
@CannedBread-mz2tx 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon is the most British non-British person I’ve ever seen. So posh, I love it.
@Alessandro-vl8bu
@Alessandro-vl8bu 5 жыл бұрын
CannedBread 1337 Is he Canadian?
@apodis4900
@apodis4900 4 жыл бұрын
I thought maybe he was British but had picked up a slight US twang, until I found out he wasn't. 😁
@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889
@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alessandro-vl8bu He lives in Ohio, he mentions in a video.
@chair6703
@chair6703 3 жыл бұрын
@@apodis4900 im british and thought he was british, speaks more proper than i do haha
@Aml_07
@Aml_07 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maks-si3xl suggest an alternative? United Statesian?
@kaiserofgermania5236
@kaiserofgermania5236 5 жыл бұрын
Looking sharp in that new suit, Brandon.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
I've had this one for over a year, now! I've worn it in previous videos! Maybe just never with a black shirt, or maybe the lighting was different here.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
But all the same, thank you!
@narakagati5872
@narakagati5872 5 жыл бұрын
*A crippled little lead ball... What a reputation to leave behind.*
@TuntematonX
@TuntematonX 3 жыл бұрын
qq
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the strange clipping effects about ten minutes in...it doesn't last long. Not sure what happened there!
@ronashapouri403
@ronashapouri403 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon F. Nice suit
@bigship9583
@bigship9583 5 жыл бұрын
+Brandon F. I didn’t even notice it! Your video is amazing! Keep up the awesome work! Well Done!!:)
@kaiserofgermania5236
@kaiserofgermania5236 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you've gained a lot of subscribers in such little amount of time. Soon you will be at 100k. Keep it up!
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
@Bryan Razo - That'd be the hope! I owe a lot to OperationOdysseus for reinvigorating this channel and my dedication to it.
@bossbaby5936
@bossbaby5936 5 жыл бұрын
your cover is exposed you were trying to warp out of this dimension back to your home
@danielbutka8854
@danielbutka8854 5 жыл бұрын
The technical term for the bit of extra lead coming from the casting process is the sprue.
@carman3894
@carman3894 5 жыл бұрын
@Gary Daniel Swaging means the lead is forced into the ball shape, not cast. Swaged lead balls have no sprue or a chance of having air pockets, and are perfectly spherical. It's not exactly historical, but a lot of modern shooters use them just like saw cut as opposed to knapped flints.
@vincentheartland2088
@vincentheartland2088 5 жыл бұрын
Known in injection molding as "Flash"
@doge8726
@doge8726 5 жыл бұрын
Are you lindybeige's long lost son?
@narakagati5872
@narakagati5872 5 жыл бұрын
*distorted mandeville march plays*
@doge8726
@doge8726 5 жыл бұрын
@@narakagati5872 A U D I B L E
@narakagati5872
@narakagati5872 5 жыл бұрын
@@doge8726 the beige doublesock
@Yui_187
@Yui_187 5 жыл бұрын
I think he even doesnt jump cut like lindy. Its very impressive
@jhonsmithers4853
@jhonsmithers4853 5 жыл бұрын
He danced little too much with one of his dancers.
@narakagati5872
@narakagati5872 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a video uploaded by this channel on my birthday, I like.
@karenstjohn6759
@karenstjohn6759 5 жыл бұрын
Even Minie balls deformed severely when they hit, because they’re made from that soft lead.
@thecanuckredcoat4142
@thecanuckredcoat4142 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Brandon f. I have to throw in a minor correction, a large portion of British military Musket balls were produced in shot towers (large smokestack like buildings where lead was melted at the top and poured through a sieve to fall down the tower (and cool) into a large pool/tub of water giving a near perfect/perfect sphere rather than being produced in bullet molds (much more common among colonial militiamen, though when possible made in as similar a manner when possible). Shot towers are little known today (sadly) in large part due to the fact that most if not all were destroyed/recycled for material.
@LK-ni1bz
@LK-ni1bz 3 жыл бұрын
I think shot towers were used to make small bbs for buckshot or birdshot loads not musket balls
@Darqshadow
@Darqshadow 5 жыл бұрын
Here in the States, we have Gettysburg. There are musket rounds that were fused together due to the amount of shot being sent at the lines. You can still find chunks of the stuff all over the fields.
@petehall889
@petehall889 5 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video. I have fired a lead ball from my matchlock musket into a box packed tight with newspapers, the deformation was quite marked. The ball ended up splayed out around the 'sides', with small frahments breaking off. If the physical damage from a lead ball didn't kill you, the uniform and soiling carried into the wound would promote infection (a lose-lose situation). Suddenly, a full metal jacket begins to hold a definite appeal - or not!
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 5 жыл бұрын
And if, big IF, one managed to beat the initial infection and survive to heal, the debris would plague the rest of your life through constant inner chafing and recurring infections.
@damienparoski2033
@damienparoski2033 5 жыл бұрын
Something that I have always wondered about muzzleloading rifles and muskets: What did a soldier do when a ball became stuck in the firearm when loading due to fouling?
@bskorupk
@bskorupk 5 жыл бұрын
On one hand, it rarely happens, as the balls are undersized by a few calibers to ease loading, and to compensate for the fouling, and one wouldn't be likely to fire all 60 cartridges typically available to them in one setting, and even then It isn't likely to be a problem. On the other hand, however, it can be a real pain to clear when it does, and is typically to be done with a Corkscrew-like device called a Worm (a scaled down version of what artillerymen use) that is affixed to the ramrod, and screws in around the ball so as to pull it out, barring that, one would use a screw on the ramrod that would drill into the lead of the ball itself. In severe cases, one would first clear whatever fouling/dirt from the front/back of the ball via taking the barrel off and soaking it in something to dissolve the fowling, and then move the ball with the aforementioned methods. In some truly extreme cases it can become necessary to remove the breech plug to bash the ball out the way it came in via the opposite side, but this is a last resort, as it can potentially upset the seal between the breech plug and the barrel breech itself, rendering the barrel and breech plug unusable or in need of repair... the latter two aren't really field capable repairs, and would render the Musket a Pike until the end of any one-day combat engagement, while the first two would still likely mean falling out of the line to fix the issue.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 5 жыл бұрын
@@bskorupk and the soaking fluid is preferrably just warm water as blackpowder and it's fouling is very water soluble, more so than modern smokeless residue. (Modern signature charges for shoulder fired AT practice weapons as well as many military small arms blanks use reduced smoke black powder analogues instead of smokeless powders. And the standard means of cleaning those AT prwactice weapons is a water soaked paper wad or rags and an old tooth brush.)
@bskorupk
@bskorupk 5 жыл бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar Whilst a bit to niche in retrospect, the reason I was broad with the soaking fluid, was because there are an annoyingly large number of antique muskets (commonly from the Nepal Cache) that were brought back from the battlefield loaded, but then were immediately hot-dipped in grease at an arsenal, and then stored for generations, with no-one the wiser that they were still loaded. Warm water isn't always enough in those cases, and sometimes require stronger soaking fluids to get through the 100+ years of grease,grime,powder,fouling,wax, and paper. Also it's 5:37 AM where I am and I'm rambling a bit.
@masonmitchell4050
@masonmitchell4050 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the farbiness of the Pirates of the Caribbean East India Company and British regular soldiers.
@Tea_and_Cake
@Tea_and_Cake 5 жыл бұрын
This^
@MacCoalieCoalson
@MacCoalieCoalson 5 жыл бұрын
Mason Mitchell to be fair it is by no means a historical series so that's a bit of a stretch imo
@apodis4900
@apodis4900 4 жыл бұрын
Very noble to admit that you may possess a false memory of that event, people are often very protective of their childhood memories. I know from personal experience that even the strongest ones can be proven unreliable. Great video.
@bigship9583
@bigship9583 5 жыл бұрын
Great Job!:) One suggestion though. Cloud you please make a video on the US Army in the War of 1812, or maybe the early US Army in general?
@JmbFountain
@JmbFountain 5 жыл бұрын
Even tough your Videos not covering the Time Period I reenact in (16th century mostly), your Videos still are very entertaining and useful, not at least because of how heavily inspired 18th century tactics still are by pike and musket formations. Also, Matchlocks fire basically the same projectile, so I can full on implement this. Thanks for the interesting video!f
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Brandon. Merry Christmas to you and a very happy New Year.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and to you as well!
@sparkymmilarky
@sparkymmilarky 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon, do you get much banter from your normie friends/girls regarding your hobbies? Great video, as always.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Of course. You just have to throw it back! I still manage to drag them to reenactments, in return they drag me to Renaissance fairs and watch me implode.
@CannedBread-mz2tx
@CannedBread-mz2tx 5 жыл бұрын
No homo, but if I was gay, I’d totally go for a guy like him.
@sparkymmilarky
@sparkymmilarky 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF yeah in my experience people find it interesting, especially girls. You can pull anyone, women love to be colonized
@thewierdlemon5956
@thewierdlemon5956 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkymmilarky lol
@chair6703
@chair6703 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkymmilarky can confirm
@PepsimVideos
@PepsimVideos 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of my new favorite channels, very nice!
@douglasparkinson4123
@douglasparkinson4123 3 жыл бұрын
one of my best memories of being a school child is the chester roman re enactors legion taking my class around the various historical sites in my town. rather fun
@theblackprince1346
@theblackprince1346 5 жыл бұрын
Another great and informative video Brandon. I never get tired of listening to that intro.
@thomaswilkinson3241
@thomaswilkinson3241 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive presentation. It never occurred to me how musket balls behaved or I just didn't mind. Thank you for opening this up for us.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you found it interesting.
@thecallankids4718
@thecallankids4718 Жыл бұрын
One point that must be made very late is that bullet manufacturers are generally optimizing for energy transfer, not penetration for anti-personel rounds. The spitzer (pointed) shape is for increased accuracy and range due to lower drag. However, for low range applications hollow-points are common. These are generally somewhat parabolic with a large cavity, with spoke like slot connecting the cavity to the outside. This allows the bullet to flatten out to several simes it's original diameter under the force of drag and collision, increasing the energy transfer significantly (absolutely obliterating the targets internal organs). They are actually often used by air marshals or guards on prisoner transport planes because they are much less likes to penetrate the target and hit a bystander or perforate the fuselage.
@sonofloki-wn3vj
@sonofloki-wn3vj Жыл бұрын
On a visit to Monmouth Battlefield years ago, I remember seeing a musket ball with a front tooth imprint on it. That has stuck with me rot the last 30 years.
@jacobreimels3680
@jacobreimels3680 5 жыл бұрын
Nice on again Brandon!
@cropman123
@cropman123 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video! The flat spot is where the "sprue" sp.? (tag end of lead left from casting - looks like a little tail or spike) is cut off. Thanks again.
@theletsplayer9503
@theletsplayer9503 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else want to see a history or evolution of the musket? Maybe it's implications in the British military
@rowanantonypajuluoma9421
@rowanantonypajuluoma9421 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the top comment is always a compliment to Brandon. Love that.
@oliverjolly8953
@oliverjolly8953 5 жыл бұрын
I recall seeing a documentary years ago where a musket ball was found with the impression of human teeth--not bite marks--the ball had cracked straight into some unfortunate mouth. Can't imagine the pain or mess it caused. Also, something horrific was the experiment in the Sean Bean Waterloo documentary where they fired a live shot into simulated flesh and bone, and they recorded the impact with a high speed camera. Seeing the 'bone' bend in anticipation of the force of the ball before it even made contact. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Anyway, great video as always!
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
If it's any consolation, if someone got shot in the mouth with a Brown Bess or Charleville, he probably didn't live long enough to notice the pain
@VOLHans
@VOLHans 5 жыл бұрын
Just a quick comment about "modern" bullets - Most rifle bullets will either be ripped into fragments by the force of the impact when hitting a body (For example, 5.56x45mm M193, which is what you used as an example photo) or at the very least tumble end over end after they hit. Pistol bullets will tend to punch straight through since they don't have enough energy to rip themselves into fragment and typically aren't long enough to tumble. The exceptions would be jacketed hollow points (JHP) which will tend to expand as they penetrate.
@ham1672
@ham1672 5 жыл бұрын
So a musket ball works like a modern shotgun slug while modern day bullets work like arrows? Saying it then is there any examples of musketry with pointed ammunition?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Minie Ball.
@loicbazin1053
@loicbazin1053 5 жыл бұрын
Nesler ball
@griffin5226
@griffin5226 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any data on or resources about the ballistic performance of roundballs?
@AceVendetta
@AceVendetta 5 жыл бұрын
The sprue of the musket ball I believe is the term for the spot where the tail (or sprue) was removed
@xanaxnation
@xanaxnation 5 жыл бұрын
Ur the best KZfaqr
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, you.
@babyinuyasha
@babyinuyasha 5 жыл бұрын
In the Napoleonic Wars some soldiers would turn some musket balls into cubes and use them as dice
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 5 жыл бұрын
There's actually a very practical reason for that. Gambling was often forbidden in the armies of the day, so soldiers who liked to play dice games would hide their dice inside their shot pouches. Since these pouches were often checked by their weight rather than by physically opening them, a musket ball die (which weighs the same as the musket ball it was made from) hidden in the pouch would easily be overlooked by the sergeant.
@tamlandipper29
@tamlandipper29 5 жыл бұрын
So... Were those dice... Ever... Loaded?
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib 5 жыл бұрын
@@yetanother9127 Did they carry loose balls in pouches? I thought they used paper cartridges for the most part, though British riflemen did carry loose balls for when they were shooting for accuracy, when they would load with loose powder , a patch and ball.
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 5 жыл бұрын
@@iskandartaib They did use cartridges generally, but again, the pouches were usually checked by weight, so it's not hard to surreptitiously replace one cartridge with a die on top of a blank cartridge (or even just a regular cartridge that has been re-rolled with a die in place of the shot).
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib 5 жыл бұрын
Then again cartridges weren't carried loose in a pouch, either - they were quite fragile and prone to damage. Cartridge boxes have little compartments for cartridges. Though I think they also carried bundles of cartridges tied together, and were told to "untie ten cartridges" before the beginning of an engagement (that came from a historical novel about Waterloo, I don't know how true it was..). Maybe Brandon can do a video on the subject of ammunition handling and storage.
@birthdefect1186
@birthdefect1186 5 жыл бұрын
i have wondered about rifles vs muskets in warfare and how rifling fouls up and makes it more difficult to reload faster than a basic musket. my question is did soldiers armed with rifles ever carry both minie bullets as well as balls so that they could fire more rapidly like a musket as the enemy advanced on them?
@UrVileWedge
@UrVileWedge 5 жыл бұрын
While the idea that a musket ball would boomerang around and hit the shooter is rather ridiculous, do you know if there's any information on how a deformed musket ball would fly straight? While 'perfectly round' is probably never actually achieved, I could very well believe (although I've done no research on my own) that a rounder ball would fly straighter than a more deformed ball. You might not hit yourself, but you also might not hit the formation you're shooting at if the ball is too badly smashed up by say, overzealous ramroding it into place.
@MacCoalieCoalson
@MacCoalieCoalson 5 жыл бұрын
UrVileWedge I'd imagine imperfect ammunition contributed to the relative inaccuracy of muskets.
@deadsweetheart1
@deadsweetheart1 5 жыл бұрын
look up the Delvigne chambered french rifled muskets which you actually pushed the round down and hit it a few times so that it would conform to the shoulder of a chamber. this was before the Minie conical round was developed and some of the belgian copys of those muskets didnt even have rifling but were 72 cal roundball
@acommonsoldier8607
@acommonsoldier8607 5 жыл бұрын
Can I get a link to the discord?
@youmaus
@youmaus 5 жыл бұрын
The cloth impression may also be from the cotton patch it was loaded with. A .45 caliber Kentucky log rifle, for example, is actually a .44 caliber round ball with the cloth patch making up the remaining hundreth of an inch in order to fit the bore snuggly.
@imjusttoodissgusted5620
@imjusttoodissgusted5620 5 жыл бұрын
although patching a musket ball would not be common, A Patriot with a fowler type might just might patch a round ball with cloth and the would leave an impression . though an expensive thing to do as all cloth was made on a hand powered loom. I patch my rifle balls and when i have pulled them, after forgeting the powder i saw the cloth and lands engraved on the ball.
@maaderllin
@maaderllin 5 жыл бұрын
A bit off topic here but I've searched through your channel and weren't yet able to find the titles of the military marches you are using in your intros and outros. And I quite like military marching music. Would you also happen to know where to find some nice playlist for XVIIIth century marches (from any country)?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
The intro is "glorious victory" and the outro is "the girl I left behind me"
@maaderllin
@maaderllin 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF Thank you very much for your quick response!
@lummileinm1
@lummileinm1 5 жыл бұрын
That ball spinning and flying back to you "idea" is actually partly true, although, as you said in the video, it wouldn't happen because the ball would have to either fly extremely slow, or would have to turn extremely fast. Even though it will, when it began spinning, start making a slight curve, the effect causing this phenomenon is called Magnus-Effect. Felt like making that point, greetings from Germany.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 5 жыл бұрын
It is true that a musketball will have a "Magnus effect" but this will only be exacerbated by surface imperfections as it will cause more spinning as it goes down the barrel (as there isn't equal friction on all sides of the musketball so therefore will be a net torque effect) and more resistance in the air so a stronger magnus effect. The consequences of this isn't as extreme as the bullet flying around to hit you but it does mean that smoothbore muskets have qualities fundamentally different from modern firearms. Modern firearms aren't just more accurate, the little inaccuracy they have is consistent. When weapon with a rifled bore is shot alignment usually isn't perfect and it ends up flying a fraction of a degree off course, the direction and magnitude of this error is within a predictable range so that you end up with a cone of fire you know all bullets will travel in. This means that if a bullet is 2 inches off target at 100m, then it will be 4 inches off target at 200m and still only 6 inches off target at 300m. The size of target you're guaranteed to hit (assuming you aimed rightly) is directly proportional to the range. But with a musketball from a smoothbore barrel, the "side spinning" means the musketball isn't just inaccurate at first, it's continually being pushed off target so it misses by a greater and greater margin. So effective range is hugely important in the age of smoothbore muskets, the deadliness of fire suddenly increases exponentially. So you see the importance of drill, the importance of the volley of fire being at the right range. Too far away and the overwhelming majority of your rounds will miss... yet within a certain range no bullet could have begun to curve much and all musketballs were flying pretty much straight and a rather consistent lethality of volleys. Expertly judging that distance and firing at the right moment made such a huge difference.
@nguyenbaminh793
@nguyenbaminh793 3 жыл бұрын
Cho minh hoi đan sung la kim loai gi ạ
@kentknightofcaelin4537
@kentknightofcaelin4537 Жыл бұрын
It's lead
@xotl2780
@xotl2780 4 жыл бұрын
I'd eat my damn shoe if any bullet in history, in all of history, has ever managed to blow around back at the person that fired it for any reason whatsoever.
@dismountedhussar9587
@dismountedhussar9587 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently musket ball were occasionally hammered into flint pads. "If you have no sheet lead with which to fix [the flints] to your arm, flatten out a bullet on a stone with the back of your hatchet, and make it into an envelope, which will be an excellent substitute." Antoine Fortune de Brack, Light cavalry out-posts, page 47.
@knightman4574
@knightman4574 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of soft lead, they where then verry effective when turned into a Meniè ball, that fired trough a musket rifle. Or the p53 Enfield.
@Hickokboy
@Hickokboy 5 жыл бұрын
5:04 That's why they replaced wooden ramrods?
@Bloo0969
@Bloo0969 8 күн бұрын
The diameter of a British musket ball was .693. The Americans and French balls were .638. There actually is a reason why a soldier in the field would pound a musket ball flat. It was used to hold the flint in the jaws. It was common for a musket ball to go through a body at close range. The Boston Massacre. 5 muskets hit 9 people. The balls were obviously going through the rioters in the front of the crowd, and hitting people behind them.
@422spartan
@422spartan 5 жыл бұрын
I was considering buying a musket,and I wanted to know what kind of musket would be best to start with?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
They are all pretty similar, in the end, as the flintlock mechanism can only vary so much. I would look around for local gun stores that do black powder, and speak with some people there.
@TheRcfighterpilot
@TheRcfighterpilot 5 жыл бұрын
I would say that pass-throughs would be very common in the battlefield judging by deer hunting I've done and other pictures I've seen of people using muzzleloaders.
@Tea_and_Cake
@Tea_and_Cake 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a bayonet on your shelf? If it is which one and whys it there? Just wondering
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, an SMLE bayonet from 1909. A gift from a friend, it seemed appropriate to put there.
@calvinree2080
@calvinree2080 5 жыл бұрын
i always wondered, just me being silly, if you losded the powder charge enough, could you theoretically fire 2 musket balls at once? And more?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Look up "buck and ball" for something similar. It wouldn't be standard to load more than one, but it is possible. Just don't do too much, lest you turn your gun into a pipe bomb.
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 5 жыл бұрын
Oh by the way Happy Christmas for next week to you and your family.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
To you and yours as well! Thank you!
@eliane2743
@eliane2743 5 жыл бұрын
For another description of the effect of musket balls: John Keegan’s “The Face of Battle”, the part on Waterloo.
@sir.phillip2697
@sir.phillip2697 5 жыл бұрын
The last vid was nice I didn't watch this fully yet
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 5 жыл бұрын
But doesn't imperfections due indeed affect accuracy? I still think it make sense given the point of a round projectile is so it doesn't tumble in mid air. Of course it makes no sens that slight imperfections would cause a ball to boomerang back... Also do those musket balls pose any health risk considering it is lead and all.
@rudolfschrenk9411
@rudolfschrenk9411 5 жыл бұрын
Muskets are not about accuracy. Most of the time they were volley-fired in the general direction of an enemy formation. Moritz von Sachsen mentioned in his book *Les Reveries Ou Memoires Sur L´Art De La Guerre* that a well timed volley of a full battalion brought down only 30 turkish cavalrymen (he counted them in person). He even went so far to recommend the exchange of the muskets to spears for the common infantryman because of the dismal performance of musketry he observed. (In a lifelong military career up to the rank of a Marshal of France) Frederick II (the Great) though increased the amount of ammunition of his prussian infantry >because firing the muskets improved the morale. It decreased the anxiety of the troops while being in battle by giving them something to do.< Battles got decided usually by bayonet charges which most of the time caused one side or the other to turn and flee. One of the >funny< effects of that inaccuracy was that officers had a reasonable chance to survive a battle despite their fancy uniforms, because the one person who was safe from getting hit was the one the musked was aimed at. Every musket ball fired veered away in some direction because of its non-spherical shape. Getting hit by a musket ball though was VERY unhealthy. The amount of damage done to tissue was multiple times that of a modern bullet and bones which got hit tended to shatter instead of breaking so that affected limbs had to get amputated and shattered ribs sent bone splinters like shrapnel through the body. After that, lead poisoning was a rather minor issue.
@user-ft8mt5jb6f
@user-ft8mt5jb6f 4 жыл бұрын
But was they made of pure soft lead as modern pure lead? Some 18 century bullets was actually cast from alloy of lead, tin and antimony and are much harder than bullets made of pure lead
@TheGreatThicc
@TheGreatThicc 5 жыл бұрын
A question for you, Brandon (or anyone who knows Flintlock/Wheellock/etc. weapons) In shows and movies they'll show the soldier pull the trigger, the powder in the pan lighting and then a delay of around 3 seconds (in my experience at least) before the gun fires. Is that actually how those guns worked? If you made a video on this let me know instead of explaining it. I've been watching your videos for only about 5 hours now (not consecutively). My specialty is, seemingly sadly, with their fully/semi automatic distant cousins on steroids.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
While it is possible for a delay like that, and indeed whenever you have a misfire you generally ought keep the gun aimed for three seconds to make sure it doesn't have a delayed fire, it is usually more instantaneous.
@TheGreatThicc
@TheGreatThicc 5 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, thank you.
@YouADamnWitch
@YouADamnWitch 5 жыл бұрын
You're like the mini version of my ethics professor in college. Save for the mangled Quebecois cadence he spoke everything in.
@carman3894
@carman3894 5 жыл бұрын
I know I am late to the discussion, but one practical use of hammering musket balls is to use them as a lead jaw pad. Cushioning the flint with lead instead of the usual leather seems to work rather well, perhaps better than leather.
@thirdtrysacharm6177
@thirdtrysacharm6177 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about why armies stopped using armor? Not sure if that's within your area of expertise.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 5 жыл бұрын
The weapons became so good at piercing armor that a human could not carry the weight needed to provide adequate protection until lighter armor materials (composites & alloys were developed)
@thirdtrysacharm6177
@thirdtrysacharm6177 5 жыл бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar Roughly when are we talking? Like English Civil War era?
@nguyenbaminh793
@nguyenbaminh793 3 жыл бұрын
Minh có nhiều viên cua súng hỏa mai
@zdog90210
@zdog90210 5 жыл бұрын
actually today modern-day bullets like the 5.56 in the 5.45 by the Russians are designed when they enter the body to tumble instead of pass through so they instantly spin and yaw when they enter the body because the back end being heavier than the front tumbling it within the body spins around to cause a larger wound cavity
@mmcintire65
@mmcintire65 3 жыл бұрын
My dear, dear Brandon! This video is one of your finest I think. Like you as a school child I was fascinated at how long it took a British soldier to ram his balls down the muzzle ready to shoot in proper fashion for maximum effect. You certainly know your balls used during the revolutionary war. Thank you for debunking the 'myth of the not perfectly' round ball outcomes. Glad you trashed that idea. In future, however, could you do a vid on the 'ramrod' itself as it is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition, insuring the balls do their job. For instance, was any thought given to making the tip of the ramrods 'soft' so as not to damage the balls? Was there a 'ramrod gap' (size) between British and American men? Do opine. Curious minds want to know.
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 5 жыл бұрын
Right folks I need USA help I have friends over from your happy land for Christmas dinner. Am doing full turkey ham stuffing etc. And Christmas pudding . But what do you have for Christmas dinner and pudding. ? So I can get stuff that they might want.
@danielthompson6207
@danielthompson6207 5 жыл бұрын
Do a plum or fig pudding, but don't mention the fact that there's beef suet in it or they may not eat it lol
@thekenneth3486
@thekenneth3486 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean a .75 caliber ball, Brandon? That is a Brown Bess you have there, is it not? Or is the ball that much smaller than the bore?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
It is a Bess, but you never fire a ball the same size of the actual bore with a musket. Modern shooters often use .71 or similar with a Bess. Historically the military went even smaller for ease of loading and firing.
@MKahn84
@MKahn84 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video! I'm not going to read all the comments to see if anyone pointed this out. The standard British musket during the Revolution was .75 caliber (the British Land Pattern Musket, aka "Brown Bess"). It was the French Charleville 1763/1765 musket (the most common musket in the hands of the rebelling colonials after the first couple years of the war) that was .69 caliber. Later, the 1795 Springfield musket - almost a copy of the French Charleville used during the Revolution - was also .69 caliber, along with all of its derivatives. Viva La France! (That last bit is a bit of humor. I'm an Anglophile who's not a fan of the French after 1789 and a very patriotic American who solidly supports the treasonous acts of our Founders, British citizens who rebelled against their legal monarch, and I hope to own a replica of the 1795 Springfield sometime soon.) Also, the sprue wasn't cut off until you removed the ball from the mold. The musket ball is very inefficient at penetrating, but it is VERY efficient at transferring every bit of energy it had into the target. That is a Good Thing, unless you are the target.
@ronashapouri403
@ronashapouri403 5 жыл бұрын
It’s fine
@blob22201
@blob22201 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know Brandon's opinion on the other famous British user Lindybeige. They'd seem to be made for each other.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
I am quite a fan of Lindy's work.
@benjamingrist6539
@benjamingrist6539 5 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to be handling lead with your bare hands?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, lead is only really dangerous if ingested. I made sure to wash my hands after handling it just to be safe, though, considering I had been hammering at the stuff.
@joba.3135
@joba.3135 5 жыл бұрын
What age do you need to be to become a part of a reenactment regiment
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Really you can be any age to take part in the hobby as a whole. To go into the battlefield can vary, but usually 16 or 18 to be a musketman.
@joba.3135
@joba.3135 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mathiaspedersen5738
@mathiaspedersen5738 5 жыл бұрын
Released on my birthday. :)
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Happy belated birthday!
@mathiaspedersen5738
@mathiaspedersen5738 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF Thank you, kind sir!
@MrWasJustInBibear
@MrWasJustInBibear 5 жыл бұрын
I think i know where that idea come from: during WW2 there were two documented cases when submarines shot themselfs with their own torpedoes. One was german, one american if im not mistaken. Quite spectacular cases, why not project it to musketballs, to fascinate children.
@00Trademark00
@00Trademark00 5 жыл бұрын
I think it is more likely the reenactor just found it funny to mess with children.
@BlondeBeard18
@BlondeBeard18 5 жыл бұрын
My buddy has an American Civil War bullet that was bit down on so hard it’s mangled flat, there’s deep bite marks all over it
@adumbaby
@adumbaby 5 жыл бұрын
They should have made the end of the ram rod concave so it doesn’t flatten the side of the ball.
@ralphturner3798
@ralphturner3798 5 жыл бұрын
At appx 10.41 you talk about being in Ohio with "my best" [or that's what I think you said].... and I'm curious what you meant. Thanks.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, I said "With my Bess"! As in my Brown Bess, a nickname for the 2nd Model Short Land Pattern Musket.
@ralphturner3798
@ralphturner3798 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF Thanks, Brandon.
@matthewlee8667
@matthewlee8667 5 жыл бұрын
What can't you do with lead? You can write with it, you can shoot it and Superman can't see through it.
@Zajuts149
@Zajuts149 5 жыл бұрын
Did the British use .69 ball? I thought the Brown Bess was .775 or something. Did the wadding make up the windage?
@KB9813
@KB9813 5 жыл бұрын
Why bullets have a gilding metal (copper, steel, etc.) jacket so the bullet won't rip itself apart on the rifling of a firearm. It's about 2,000 fps with a gas check lead rounds can be fired. Once past that, full metal jacket. I haven't handloaded with cased rounds. Could for my Lee's due to the price, but I just keep with factory bullets.
@peterblood50
@peterblood50 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he was pulling a young re-enacters proverbial leg. He probably figured, with your interest, you'd check it out. I would have told you a similar story just to mess with you a little bit in fun. 😏 "There was an infantryman, who in the Battle of Waterloo, had to load his musket so many times, he died from lead poisoning from handling all the musket balls he had to load." Tragic eh?
@timspooner59
@timspooner59 3 жыл бұрын
Suggest two lights...one left and the other right...eliminate moving ghost shadow
@stekra3159
@stekra3159 5 жыл бұрын
But why did they chose led not iron?
@jeraldandryiii6926
@jeraldandryiii6926 5 жыл бұрын
42
@ColonialBoi
@ColonialBoi 3 жыл бұрын
I should know they're soft, I chewed one up like a gummy. It was very yummy, with a deep taste.
@3bydacreekside
@3bydacreekside 3 жыл бұрын
L E A D
@CrysResan
@CrysResan 5 жыл бұрын
Did they not have any sort of protective coating to protect the iron/steel on the guns back then, such as bluing? I believe I heard they did in the 1800s and well, if you find an original a century of time, especially of constant use, would wear it off.
@moreparrotsmoredereks2275
@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 4 жыл бұрын
Modern hollow point rounds are designed to mushroom and expand in the body to cause greater injury
@Rusty_Gold85
@Rusty_Gold85 5 жыл бұрын
I read eyewitness accounts of pieces of the fellow soldiers bones injuring other soldiers from shots . They were packed close together
@SarmonOflynn
@SarmonOflynn 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon - have a look at an aerodynamic phenomenon called The Magnus Effect on spinning spheres. It may provide some plausibility to this exaggeration.
@Dabeyoun
@Dabeyoun 5 жыл бұрын
We need full metal jacket musket balls.
@treygarver7791
@treygarver7791 5 жыл бұрын
I remember in some history class being told that musket balls were some times made using a shot tower. The molten led would cool into a perfect sphere as it fell. Is there any truth to this?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Shot towers were used.
@treygarver7791
@treygarver7791 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon I have a nother question about the use of bayonets and muskets. Is there a convention way to contact you?
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can email me at BrandonFYT@gmail.com
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 5 жыл бұрын
Shot towers were used for centralized industrial production of shot, both for muskets and artillery canister rounds afaik. Once in the field, a soldier was expected to replenish as much as possible of his shot on his own, usually by collecting and re-casting shot found after each battle.
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603
@thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 5 жыл бұрын
Shot towers where sometimes the highest building in a lot of towns city's around the world for years and there's still a lot of them still standing today
@bartvanderoordt510
@bartvanderoordt510 5 жыл бұрын
actualy sou somtimes find playing pieces or dices made out of lead musket balls hammered flat or square ish
@greenflagracing7067
@greenflagracing7067 5 жыл бұрын
you might have mentioned buck and ball loads.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to get my hand on some, some time.
@saoirse2031
@saoirse2031 5 жыл бұрын
I guess the guy simply meant that by damaging the shot you were more likely to miss, which could be bad for you and your comrades since it meant 1 more gun firing at you.
@strickersniper7909
@strickersniper7909 4 жыл бұрын
Also in the civil war the rifling was engraving the in to the ball/bullet of time
@Trucksofwar
@Trucksofwar 2 жыл бұрын
The wound a musket ball would cause would be much more akin to modern hunting ammunition designed to mushroom & expand on impact to maximise lethality rather than military rounds designed to poke holes in you and not violate the Geneva convention hahaha. The wound a musket would cause would be utterly devastating.
@Yui_187
@Yui_187 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Those balls sure are soft also how you dont use jumpcuts are impressive
@HandleMyBallsYouTube
@HandleMyBallsYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
Tonight on Brandon F, we talk about soft balls and their impact on warfare.
@bushman4689
@bushman4689 5 жыл бұрын
My name is Brandon F, too. Nice.
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