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Math Olympiad | A Nice Algebra Problem | How to solve for "a" and "b" in this Problem?

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@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 24 күн бұрын
a^2-b = b^2-a = 73 a^2-b^2=b-a (a-b)(a+b)=(b-a) (a+b)=(b-a)/(a-b) a+b = -1 eq.1 a=-b-1 a^2-b=73. eq.2 (-b-1)^2-b =73 b^2+2b+1-b=73 b^2+b+1=73 b^2+b-72=0. eq.3 (b+9)(b-8)=0 sol.1 b=-9 sol.2 b=8 from eq.1 a+b=-1 if b=-9 a-9=-1 a=8 if b=8 a+8=-1 a=-9 solutions (a,b)= (8,-9) = (-9,8) VERIFY a^2-b=?73 (8,-9)? 64--9=?73 73=❤73✔️ (-9,8) 81-8=?73 73=❤73✔️ b^2-a has identical results Conclude solutions (a,b)= (8,-9) = (-9,8)
@garrettvanmeter5831
@garrettvanmeter5831 22 күн бұрын
Write as (a,b) = (8,-9) or (a,b) =(-9,8 ). What the solutions as written say is (8,-9) =(-9,8) which is incorrect. Also only One solution is needed Since by symmetry if (8,-9) is a solution then so is (-9,8).
@giannaleoci2328
@giannaleoci2328 24 күн бұрын
a^2-b=73 b^2-a=73 a^2-b=b^2-a a^2-b^2=b-a (a-b)(a+b)=-(a-b) a-b div 0 a+b=-1 a=-b-1 b^2-a=73 b^2+b+1-73=0 b^2+b-72=0 b=[-1+-rq(1+288)]/2 b=[-1+-17]/2 b1=-9 b2=8 a=-b-1 a1=9-1=8 a2=-8-1=-9
@is7728
@is7728 24 күн бұрын
Smarter method (gave it a like)
@garrettvanmeter5831
@garrettvanmeter5831 22 күн бұрын
Again, only one solution is needed since you can appeal to symmetry to get the other
@is7728
@is7728 22 күн бұрын
@@garrettvanmeter5831 Agree
@margotconard7644
@margotconard7644 17 күн бұрын
a^2 = 73 + b b^2 = 73 + a the nearest square of an interger that is larger than 73 is 81 by inspection if a equals 9 and b equals -8, the problem is solved.
@彭干
@彭干 9 күн бұрын
应该是a=-9,b=8或a=8,b=-9吧,你这种解法我们也有类似的,这种解法在中国被称为“瞪眼法”我们写成: 注意到a=-9,b=8是一组解,显然a=8,b=-9是另一组解,证毕。
@ika5666
@ika5666 5 күн бұрын
It took me around 10 sec to find the solution. Glory to Ukraine.
@user-pd7js7cy9m
@user-pd7js7cy9m 23 күн бұрын
Hellooooo 😊). A bad solution to an easy problem. After 2:40 we substitute (1) a=b and (2) a=-b-1 in (0) a^2-b-73=0 . We get : (0,1) b^2-b-73=0 , and (0,2) b^2+b-72=0 . Therefore : (3) b1=[ 1-sqrt(293) ]/2 , b2=[1+sqrt(293) ]/2 (4) {thanks to Vietta } : b3=-9 , b4=8 , we substitute (3) in (1) and (4) in (2) . We get the right answer. With respect to, Lidiy
@ashtongreenidge
@ashtongreenidge 20 күн бұрын
Recall the condition that a is not equal to b.
@LogicRk
@LogicRk 24 күн бұрын
Superb ❤
@Frankkusi-se2rf
@Frankkusi-se2rf 13 күн бұрын
Please there is a problem in the factorization
@als2cents679
@als2cents679 24 күн бұрын
In your solution validation you only plugged values in one of the simultaneous equation. You really need to plug into both of the original simultaneous equations to validate that the solution is valid.
@user-ft8ws5tt1x
@user-ft8ws5tt1x 9 күн бұрын
В первую секунду я подумал, что a=b, и во вторую секунду меня обломали)
@lugracias
@lugracias 24 күн бұрын
👍🌼
@duncan-rmi
@duncan-rmi 21 күн бұрын
I did it in my head. but what sort of pen is that? do they do them in other colours?
@user-lz9xu2bn8p
@user-lz9xu2bn8p 24 күн бұрын
🎉
@arshadshaikh5905
@arshadshaikh5905 19 күн бұрын
a = b = 9.05863
@godot-lee
@godot-lee 14 күн бұрын
a = 8, b = -9 or a = -9, b = 8
@evgenysapotnitsky8234
@evgenysapotnitsky8234 18 күн бұрын
Задача, на самом деле, очень простая. Вычитаем второе уравнение из первого и после преобразований получаем (a-b)(a+b+1)=0. Отсюда следует a=-1-b (a не равно b по условию задачи). Подставляем полученное выражение для "a" во второе уравнение и получаем b^2+b-72=0. Решаем квадратное уравнение и получаем ответ: 1) b=8, a=-9; 2)b=-9, a=8. Тринадцать минут на такую задачу - очевидный перебор))
@evbdevy352
@evbdevy352 15 күн бұрын
Я тоже решил именно так,отнял от(1) (2).Получил такое же кв.урав-е.
@evbdevy352
@evbdevy352 15 күн бұрын
Потратил не более 5 мин.На Олимп.ге тянет
@user-jk4dn1re9r
@user-jk4dn1re9r 18 күн бұрын
Очень интересно. Спасибо
@user-jk4dn1re9r
@user-jk4dn1re9r 18 күн бұрын
Хотя есть и более простые методы решения, но эта игра с формулами мне понравилась.
@learncommunolizer
@learncommunolizer 13 күн бұрын
Your welcome
@dellagobaikal8205
@dellagobaikal8205 2 күн бұрын
The proposed solution is too much complicated. Below proposed by G is more technical.
@TWJRPGGamming
@TWJRPGGamming 2 күн бұрын
a=-9 b=8
@lisandro73
@lisandro73 24 күн бұрын
There are two more real, when a and b are irrational
@user-we7eh6lk8m
@user-we7eh6lk8m 9 күн бұрын
а=-9, b=8
@user-xq8cg3gf5f
@user-xq8cg3gf5f 21 күн бұрын
81-8=73 64+9=73
@soniamariadasilveira7003
@soniamariadasilveira7003 24 күн бұрын
I loved this problem!
@user-xh3ih4ks9y
@user-xh3ih4ks9y Күн бұрын
a=8 b=-9
@user-sx6vo6ne5f
@user-sx6vo6ne5f 24 күн бұрын
:))))))))) Jak można tak rozwlekać proste zadanie ?!!! było wstawić a=-b-1 do drugiego równania i wynik gotowy z prostego równania kwadratowego b=-9 ; 8 a=8 ; -9
@YAWTon
@YAWTon 21 күн бұрын
The same problem with the same solution was uploaded to YT a short while ago. I think this guy just made a copy of that clip... terribly boring, and bad from a didactic point of view.
@user-xq8cg3gf5f
@user-xq8cg3gf5f 21 күн бұрын
а=9 б=-8 !!!
@vanessawelles4760
@vanessawelles4760 23 күн бұрын
easy to guess the solution by saying what number squared is is slightly greater than 73. result -9 and 8
@salvatorechiocca2375
@salvatorechiocca2375 22 күн бұрын
A
@Tiberius88
@Tiberius88 22 күн бұрын
Long winded. It doesn't take 13 mins to solve this!
@YAWTon
@YAWTon 21 күн бұрын
You can halve the time by playing the clip at double speed...😊
@user-md4br9kj3i
@user-md4br9kj3i 22 күн бұрын
Всё конечно красиво, но зачем так сильно раскладывать и расписывать очевидные вещи?
@evbdevy352
@evbdevy352 15 күн бұрын
I have solved by other way.Plused (1) and (2)
@soshakobyan3123
@soshakobyan3123 19 күн бұрын
Olympiad problem? I think this is a joke.
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