"Leaving my religion was the catalyst of everything!" with Junior Fa | Champion Boxer | Mandate Ep94

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MANDATE

MANDATE

23 күн бұрын

Check out the convo with the resolute, determined and purposeful former NZ heavyweight boxing champion Junior Fa, as he shares his new found journey, leaving boxing his faith and norms behind to reinvent himself in search for a deeper meaning and purpose in life!

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@dragon_league
@dragon_league 23 сағат бұрын
Doko, I commend your courage and honesty to come out on this open forum and declare your stance on the church, and what influence and non-influence it has made on your journey through life. Our Moanan peoples are one of the most loyal, faithful and loving people on the planet. I'm not taking anything away from any other cultures, but that is my own experience as a Moanan. From the time the missionaries arrived on our homelands to the present, our people have remained loyal to the good message and have remained faithful. That too, is commendable and a testament of our ability as a people to accept a change in ways of thinking about how the world works. I love how your family has accepted your new direction in life and how you have kept your ties to your family. This is how it should be. Your stance on leaving the church will ruminate amongst our peoples for a while to come. Many will be questioning your decisions, both for and against it. I for one support and applaud it. Keep up your good works.
@TheJaybrizzy
@TheJaybrizzy 21 күн бұрын
Good on you junior making decisions according to your own convictions regardless of the flack you migh recieve. Really courageous and great role model for everyone including pasifika!
@jordanahsan1107
@jordanahsan1107 20 күн бұрын
If only the uso knew the difference between MORMONISM and biblical Christianity😏 All the best for the future Junior, May Yeshua guide you and continue to watch over you and your family💯 APTTMH🙏🏽
@crazziislyy255
@crazziislyy255 19 күн бұрын
Jesus is the way the truth and the light ❤
@MightyChange22
@MightyChange22 17 күн бұрын
Is someone worships Jesus Christ sole who are you to say whether they are Christian or not ? Sole biblical Christians got over thousands different church but you don’t wanna include Mormons as Christians? Se hypocrite
@jordanahsan1107
@jordanahsan1107 16 күн бұрын
@@MightyChange22 Your right on that uce, there are over thousands of denominations, but mormons are not Christians🤗 And OMLife😱 Im a Hypocrite?! A'e sole, that's not a very nice thing to say🤣 Do you wanna know who's the real hypocrite??!! Joseph Smith🤷🏾‍♂️ "ia gale"👀......
@jordanahsan1107
@jordanahsan1107 14 күн бұрын
@@MightyChange22 Your right on that uce, there are over thousands of denominations, but mormons are not Christians🤗 And OMLife😱 Im a Hypocrite?! A'e sole, that's not a very nice thing to say🤣 Do you wanna know who's the real hypocrite??!! Joseph Smith🤷🏾‍♂️ "ia gale"👀......
@wenal14
@wenal14 14 күн бұрын
This 🙌🏾 to many man made religions and traditions (Easter,Christmas etc). The Most High Yeshua the one and only.
@saufiu5402
@saufiu5402 19 күн бұрын
“No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing” God bless you Doko, the work keeps going 🙏🏼
@fixatomato
@fixatomato 21 күн бұрын
Way to go boys, enjoyed this and related heavily to this. So nice to see your growth Jaemen, I’m really impressed little bro. Aroha nui.
@Shyzo96
@Shyzo96 21 күн бұрын
Shucks what a deep conversation. Good on you Junior, much respects doko
@unluggyuce8496
@unluggyuce8496 19 күн бұрын
Wishing you all the best Junior on your new journey! My prayer is that one day, you will come to know who God really is and all he wants is to have a close and intimate relationship with you! Much love uso❤️
@theolilsam
@theolilsam 17 күн бұрын
Brother is so confused, each to their own, your fights were not proven as well and they were fighters you saw in front of you, you didn’t know if you were going to win, god is the answer to life,
@MightyChange22
@MightyChange22 21 күн бұрын
Junior, I think the pressure got to you brother, it’s not your faith it’s not boxing, you’re old enough to know boxing is the hurt business , you were one foot at the door in both boxing and your faith , you didn’t dive into neither one of them so you got stuck in the middle of all the other pressure
@tmt2058
@tmt2058 12 күн бұрын
Spot on mate
@ceew2387
@ceew2387 20 күн бұрын
I'm a christian and I have found this podcast to be so refreshing! It has given me an understanding of why some leave their faith, and their negative perception of those who are religious preachers. Respect to Junior Fa for sharing his journey. I find it good to question why we do what we have been brought up to do, but its so awesome when you find people who are also outside of religion and are more interested in embracing God through His Word.
@stevescottrugbyshow3547
@stevescottrugbyshow3547 20 күн бұрын
Only the saviour Jesus Christ will save us not google or people looking for convenience. Mortality is the time to learn & progress it’s simple, us humans complicate simple truths, Kia kaha toko🙏🏽
@william3041
@william3041 20 күн бұрын
if the bro had ACTUALLY researched the historical evidence for Jesus, hed still be a Christian, Jesus aint a fairytale he actually lived died and rose again ✝️ ❤
@StandardProcedures79
@StandardProcedures79 20 күн бұрын
who is jesus
@william3041
@william3041 20 күн бұрын
@@StandardProcedures79 don't be stupid you already know
@StandardProcedures79
@StandardProcedures79 20 күн бұрын
@@william3041was Jesus his name 2,000 years ago?
@william3041
@william3041 20 күн бұрын
@@StandardProcedures79 once AGAIN don't be STUPID you already know
@StandardProcedures79
@StandardProcedures79 19 күн бұрын
​@william3041 please mate. I am far from stupid. It was not a stupid question, it was genuine. Ok let me spill the beans for you, the person you pray to is not who you think it is. Jesus was not his given name when he supposedly lived. Jesus is the Greek translation of his name. If you look up the etymology of the name Jesus you will be dumbfounded. Please don't accuse people of being stupid when you yourself have no historical knowledge of your own religion. Do you homework. You're praying to Zeus my friend 💀🤣 to each their own.
@theplowman_11
@theplowman_11 17 күн бұрын
My guy studied all religions in three months. Living off on feelings will always lead you down the wrong road. I do love how he's open about what he's going through in the journey but there are alot of holes. Come to Jesus. Saved by Grace not of Works. All done by his goodness and his mercy for us. I pray you study christianity "a little".
@user-np2yd3ge2u
@user-np2yd3ge2u 17 күн бұрын
Junior, first of i stumbled across this pidcast by accident, i so glad i did. Not because j relate or anything like that. But because i hear someone that was cinflicted and battleing with purpose, with direction, wirh wanting live and walk the like they see fit. The way in which you commuicated this, i got! What i also think you mastered so well was to give examples of different religions, of the lifestyles in which oeople life, all of which you described with respect empathy and love. I dont see often, its certainly something i would struggle with. What ever your fiture holds...that is certainly a valuable skill. Boxing doesnt define you, the way you with you life does i guess Life long fan here big fella, all the best to you and your family.✌️
@davidfeao2392
@davidfeao2392 20 күн бұрын
Good watch team thank you - Always great to see professional athletes showing their vulnerability and I look forward to seeing where his liberation leads him, hopefully into the coaching, training side of things.
@jl2457
@jl2457 21 күн бұрын
This is my quote but "everyman has a right to choose what they want to believe, no one has a right to take that away that choice as a man".
@jl2457
@jl2457 21 күн бұрын
I saw this had to comment. I went through the same thing 20 years ago. All I can say is you will look back one day and be un-ashamedly proud of yourself. I know first hand where you are going and as the words of Shakespeare will ring true "to thine own self be true". I came from same church and that such a brain wash BUT I have love for the people as they are only doing what they think is right, the problem is the are not "thinking" which is what your saying. It sad truth but my friend be glad you are away from it and I predict you will never fall into that trap again. Which is a lesson for everyone. You will find your way and lead your family like you should do. You are there leader so you have a right to guide them and have there best interest at hand no one else can be more honest with them. Respect. Good job Bro.
@ar5gnm1
@ar5gnm1 16 күн бұрын
Much love uso. It takes courage to a stand for what is right. Keep studying because your kids will be looking to you for direction and strength. My son is autistic level 3 non- verbal. He continues to remind me what true family love is all about. It has nothing to do with a god or a book of rules with standards and/or expectations. My family reject my questions and believe critical thinking is the devils work. I dont believe in the devil. There is good and evil. The devil just another character in a black book of rules. The journey is long, but if you seek freedom from the conditioning of your past and clarity to make good decisions. - Its worthwhile. Ex-adventist. Faamalosi toko.
@chadnz1003
@chadnz1003 Күн бұрын
This happends to alot of mormons when they find out who joseph smith really is..mentally stuffs u up having to think you hafto be good to be worthy to enter a man made temple let alone heaven...i pray the uso finds Jesus of the bible,Not man made rules but a relationship with God himself who changes softens and changes your heart and mind as you spend time with him. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.ephesians 2:8-10
@mattparr3038
@mattparr3038 19 күн бұрын
Good on you mate.. very good deep convo...
@christopherl1478
@christopherl1478 21 күн бұрын
Thank you Junior. All power.. .been questioning the vegan route myself. Best to you and your family. All love o your journey and path. I hear you on nihilism. Best versions of ourselves keeping it simple. Lotta love and common sense.
@d3mist0clesgee12
@d3mist0clesgee12 21 күн бұрын
Killer Instinct, just confirmed what I always suspected, he has none, all good, glad he’s had so many epiphany’s, lol
@mattparr3038
@mattparr3038 19 күн бұрын
And that's a good thing. Every successful boxer will tell you, the hurt they carry makes them brutal in the ring, Mike tyson and Mark hunt to name afew. This man has realized he don't want that life.. awesome for him.
@jl2457
@jl2457 21 күн бұрын
Do something with being a communicator as a job. Your communication is awesome. I predict you will be in that field. Be a broadcaster or interviewer something like that. Use your communication skills.
@rikimackey7984
@rikimackey7984 10 күн бұрын
He’s taken some massive punches in his last few fights as well.
@Idkidk55957
@Idkidk55957 19 күн бұрын
20:30 is what youre looking for
@louisova23
@louisova23 21 күн бұрын
Only 5 minutes in and I am hooked. Awesome podcast from both of you
@Izzyman1
@Izzyman1 17 күн бұрын
You knock out 20 people in your career, did you want to hurt them ? And your last fight , you were TKO pretty bad, did that play any roll in your decision? Life including people will throw everything at you good and bad, hope you remain true to yourself, May god bless you and your family,
@user-vh7sz9xj1d
@user-vh7sz9xj1d 20 күн бұрын
All the best FA
@crazziislyy255
@crazziislyy255 18 күн бұрын
Funniest podcast lost his marbles the last fight start blaming everyone for trying to be rocky balboa 😂😂
@mattparr3038
@mattparr3038 19 күн бұрын
God doesnt hate gay people, its the act he condemns, not the individual. Most religions dont clarify the difference. But then when an individual thinks their sexual preference defines who they are, automatically theyre in defence mode hate god or switch off...
@JonDough-xr4sk
@JonDough-xr4sk 15 күн бұрын
This guy stopped because he was getting smashed nothing else
@peterfelise3807
@peterfelise3807 20 күн бұрын
I pray he finds the truth and the real Jesus and not the Jesus that the religious system has portrayed and taught him.
@mattparr3038
@mattparr3038 19 күн бұрын
I think his questions are super valid. I believe the man above knows each individuals heart, and understands the obstacles they face.. not nessercerily what religion (which is mostly man ideas) tell you. The bible has guidelines we can follow.
@crazziislyy255
@crazziislyy255 19 күн бұрын
Good on you facing nganou and all these others one hit wonders you rather save your life then be a cabbage ❤
@Idkidk55957
@Idkidk55957 19 күн бұрын
Brother, theres too many holes in the Mormon religion.. back to christianity with the 1 true bible. Thats all it is. Theres no deviations of Christianity. What is written is what is written. No one goes to the father except through Jesus. There are no other prophets after Him.
@user-go7iq4qb6d
@user-go7iq4qb6d 20 күн бұрын
we're all humans created in the image of God sharing the planet that God has created for us
@chadnz1003
@chadnz1003 Күн бұрын
And i think theres plenty of people in auckland who want to hurt each other uso😅😅😅😅😅😅
@RandolphLevy
@RandolphLevy 20 күн бұрын
The bro laughing about leaving church. i know the lord our savior Jesus christ forgives you n hope you find faith in him again don't abandon him he love you uso. God bless you and the family
@chadnz1003
@chadnz1003 Күн бұрын
This happends to alot of mormons when they find out who joseph smith really is..mentally stuffs u up having to think you hafto be good to be worthy to enter a man made temple let alone heaven...i pray the uso finds Jesus of the bible,Not man made rules but a relationship with God himself who changes softens and changes your heart and mind as you spend time with him. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.ephesians 2:8-10
@tripoleast3456
@tripoleast3456 20 күн бұрын
🫡🫡🫡🫡
@laionefkpouli
@laionefkpouli 13 күн бұрын
imagine being a boxer,,,, and saying,,,, why am i training to hurt ppl!? ...........aye my g, boxing is a sport,,, did you not put 1+1 together when you began boxing???? .....did you not know your training to battle against another individual who boxes and trains as well?????? .........you are not hurting people in general.............you in a specific sport, and the goal is to win.....does that make sense??? so i do not get what you mean by..... you training to hurt ppl!?!?!?!,you literally hurting no one!
@johnnau6409
@johnnau6409 19 күн бұрын
That’s why you not winning anymore just saying
@lextai6470
@lextai6470 21 күн бұрын
Tell Tua that bruh
@toniafa13
@toniafa13 21 күн бұрын
Tell tua what?
@lextai6470
@lextai6470 21 күн бұрын
@toniafa13 Go back and watch what he said from the start than come back or f off
@MightyChange22
@MightyChange22 21 күн бұрын
@@lextai6470why you mad explain what you mean because it’s not clear. I’m Mormon too so what you saying?
@lextai6470
@lextai6470 21 күн бұрын
@@MightyChange22 Keep your Joseph Smith comments to yourself
@MightyChange22
@MightyChange22 21 күн бұрын
@@lextai6470 keyboard worrier
@pacebeazy7584
@pacebeazy7584 19 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@RandolphLevy
@RandolphLevy 20 күн бұрын
The uso has a free agency and people shouldn't get mad at him for leaving his belief im a proud latter day saint but im not perfect no ones perfect all love uso ❤@juniorfa
@kellyandy5520
@kellyandy5520 21 күн бұрын
29:39 people don’t want to hurt each other?? The toko doesn’t watch the news 🙈so when someone decide to walk in to a mall and start stabbing others what do you call that??and where does it stem from??I respect everyone’s beliefs but make sure you don’t contradict yourself.
@MightyChange22
@MightyChange22 21 күн бұрын
Your time stamp is off the mark you’re try to make sole
@kellyandy5520
@kellyandy5520 20 күн бұрын
Oops..you know what I mean tho peace ✌️
@MightyChange22
@MightyChange22 20 күн бұрын
@@kellyandy5520 😂😂😂 kefs alg lol
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