Anthony Britti, maybe if you love Hugh Nibley, maybe you should consider joining the church. God bless you

Hi Anthony my name is Ken. I was watching this priceless video of a priceless man and saw your beautiful comment and wanted to reach out to you. I am a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Hugh Nibley played a significant role in my journey to find my Savior Jesus Christ and His True and Restored Gospel! I like you thought while watching his lectures and reading his writings what a truly wonderful man he is! Overflowing with knowledge, wisdom and integrity and a truly generous heart! Then one day I was struck with the thought as though it was a bolt of lightning “ if Hugh Nibley loves The Book Of Mormon and believes that it is revelation given to us from our Father In Heaven and that through reading and pondering and praying about The Book Of Mormon I too can receive personal revelation of it’s truthfulness that’s good enough for me! So I did as Brother Nibley taught me and I really read the Book Of Mormon with a sincere desire to know of its truthfulness ( before I had been reading it for curiosity!) and I truly pondered on the question of “what if the Book of Mormon is true!? And wouldn’t it be wonderful if it is True!!!” And I realized that what makes Hugh Nibley the man that he is is because HE KNOWS THAT THE BOOK OF MORMON IS REVELATION GIVEN TO HIM FROM HIS LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER AND THAT BECAUSE THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE THEN JOSEPH SMITH IS A PROPHET AND IF JOSEPH SMITH IS A PROPHET THAN THE GOSPEL THAT HE RESTORED IS TRUE!!!! And most importantly that I CAN KNOW FOR MYSELF THAT THESE THINGS ARE TRUE!!! Jesus taught us that “By their fruits ye shall know them” and I simply came to the understanding that if Hugh Nibley with all of his knowledge, wisdom and integrity knows that The Book Of Mormon is true, that Joseph Smith is a Prophet and that The Restored Gospel is true then I MUST take the time and sincere effort to find out if it’s true!! I did and the answer to my question of “ Wouldn’t it be wonderful if it is true!!” was far more profound than I could have imagined at that time!!! Anthony I hope and pray that you can take this journey yourself and receive all the blessings that our Heavenly Father and His Son and our Savior Jesus Christ have in store for you and for all of His children who sincerely read, ponder and pray about the Book Of Mormon! It is the key to everything and nothing would bring more joy to Hugh Nibley’s heart than to know that your respect and admiration for him was your first steps in your journey to discovering these truths for yourself! May God be with you my friend and please reach out to me with any questions, Ken.

Amen

Interfered with his daughter

, were you drunk when you wrote this!?!

I’ve been a member my life and only just discovered him 😂😍

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Sounds like he's on LSD. LDS LSD.

love this mans teachings. and i being a Jew. what a great mind. he is one of the most brilliant teachers. in my world it is the only "Christian" Christ-aligned world view alongside that of the elder Testament that is still in affect for those morons who teach it is done away with.

Then he should be wild about the Seventh Day Adventists who obsess on the Sanctuary and Sabbath of Judaism.

Scott Gudmundsen he molested his own daughter and claimed it was an ancient practice...

GDK of course, an accusation does not necessarily equal truth. I witnessed someone in my family accuse another family member of molesting them. I believed them (as did most family members). Then one day (years later) I heard the accuser laughing and telling a friend of theirs that they lied about the molestation. I mention this to demonstrate what I said earlier, that is, an accusation does not automatically equal a truth. All evidence indicates the accusation against this man is false. You should take care when leveling accusation against someone.

Thanks Keith Peterson, for that. GDK you need to do a little investigation that is truly unbiased by personal feelings against the LDS church before jumping on somebody else's race pony. His daughter, unfortunately has a history of mental health issues and a bone to chew against the church mentioned... Just saying.

Yes it is a great book. I've read it 50+ times and it only brings me better understanding of my savior Jesus Christ.

Thank you

Says the lady who believes in the power of essential oils and MLMing them as a career. Guess that actually makes sense. #utahmindset

What proof is there that it's true?

No proof..just lots of assurances from the Salt Lake City Spin Doctors that it is true​@killerbing11

He just rambles. Answer this: Why does the BOM not teach baptism for the dead or godhood or eternal marriage?

This response is 5 years later, however, the answer is that those teachings were developed by the heads of the movement that went west. I have asked that question a myriad of times over the years and never a concrete answer has been given. I’m 3rd generation RLDS and none of those teachings ever have been part of this church. After Joseph Smith’s murder his son continued in the church (RLDS) leadership and denounced the validity of those “doctrines.”

the fact you mention william burroughs, gets an automatic like from me. He was a an amazing person and author

Jacque Gurney Well he very well may have molested his own daughter and justified it through his religion...

***** No evidence for the BoM either but that doesn't stop people from believing. I feel it to be true. I tend to side with the victim and not the emotionally distant father.

+GDK Garbage: From the Book of Mormon show the world where molestation is approved by GOD. Do the same from the Doctrine and Covenants. Then the Pearl of Great Price. You are just another hateful LIAR and false accuser. Such CRIMES are punishable by DEATH.

+GDK The modern educated Saints of God have answered every question and used SCIENCE, Geology and Geography as well as Anthropology of the Native Americas to prove the Book of Mormon narrative. You may read them but, as is your wont, you'll deny them.

BobMcDanielRobertson Threats from a fat dead-eyed devotee of a marginalized 18th century fraud are always hilarious. "The modern educated Saints of God have answered every question and used SCIENCE, Geology and Geography...blablablah" Throwing up in your mouth doesn't equate to evidence. Secular Universities aren't rushing to add anything from the BoM fraud to their understanding of pre-Columbus America for a reason Bobby. 2 Nephi 2:22 and Alma 12:23-24 state there was no death of any kind (humans, all animals, birds, fish, dinosaurs, etc.) on this earth until the “Fall of Adam”, which according to D&C 77:6-7 occurred 7,000 years ago. It is scientifically established there has been life and death on this planet for billions of years. This stuff isn't convincing. It is indicting.

Nathan Meacham careful, that's what leads many ppl away from the church

So we shouldn't dig and do research and just have blind faith? Hmmmmm.....

Nathan Meacham I did research and read lots of church history and left the church at the age of 24 after serving a mission, I have many friends with similar stories. If you want to stay in the church, I'd suggest that you not look beyond the "approved" materials that they distribute.

Ha! Ha! Well, I've been doing research over the last 30 years and it's done nothing but strengthen my testimony. We all have doubts and questions for sure and are all on different paths.

Nathan Meacham You're correct. For me, The Book of Abraham proves that Joseph Smith was not capable of translating correctly and led me to believe that the whole thing was false. My immediate family remains LDS and I still have a great relationship with all of them. I wish they'd research the issues like you have and come to their own conclusion. Best of luck to you!

+Lance Rambert how's the lonely troll doing? Has your mother let you out of the basement today?

+Lance Rambert you are a troll and that's all you will ever be. Tell me about YOUR belief system so i can destroy it.

+Lance Rambert then shut up about mine, troll.

+Lance Rambert is a troll.

+Lance Rambert tell me about your beliefs so i can trash them as you are attempting to do here, troll.

yea...i could barely understand him he speaks so fast and jumps from 1 subject to another....

+Kelly McDonald and your comment gets : "I've got Pac man fever! (Pac man fever) It's driving me crazy! (driving me crazy.) I've got Pac man fever. (Pac man fever.)"

really? i wonder why my dear,ask your doctor.

Don't wish...go get it.

M Chopin excellent advice. I have learned a lot from Truman Madson, Bruce R and Professor Nibly. It is a lifetime pursuit.

It really is a lifetime pursuit. Whenever you think you know it all, keep searching and you will find little gems of knowledge that tie into bigger things that you yourself may have already made a conclusion on. When that happens to me I think: "Gee, I am sure glad that was not a murder case that I had wrapped up so nicely and filed away so many years ago." These lectures really helped me to grow into a higher realm of knowledge and understanding at a time when I had given up on looking for answers. My eyes are getting bad and I cannot read very well any more. It is frustrating. So I started watching videos. I was amazed at the pictures that Dr. Nibley paints with his words. I can see them with my ears. Some people say they don't understand him at all, that all they hear is gibberish. I really don't know how to answer that except I am not them and that the Holy Ghost and what one already is aware of helps. I guess some might see it as putting syrup on a plate without any pancakes on it. The gotta make the pancakes for themselves first by doing the work required to hear his words and know what they mean...and there is a lot of steps in making pancakes when you cannot buy this particular batter ready-made at your local grocer. Even then you're not done. Then you have to mix it all up and apply the right amount of heat to it for the right amount of time. It takes practice, which is doing. There is not much effort or produce in wishing. That's why I said don't wish...go get it. I hope you do.

Yswimmer: its interesting to note here that all of Martha Becks siblings call the book "A WORK OF FICTION" AND "A NASTY BOOK". In other words don't believe everything you read.

Yswimmer, all anti mormon books are full of lies, its satans way of keeping people from the truth. Don't be fooled, God bless

Skybird Utah Statements like yours are what so often makes people think the LDS are close-minded and unthinking. Interestingly Martha Beck said that most people unhappy with her book automatically picked up the "you are a tool of Satan" theme. I am not surprised, then, that you did the same.

***** The main reason that image is projected to the public is because it is the image that most others want to project to the public. It's an old trick, you make the person your talking about looks less like people so when people treat that group bad they won't care.

I just think she is a mediocre person that could not stand tall on her own and thus tried to knock someone else down so she could stand on their back.

The Holy Ghost is a great translator...if you have that, you can understand perfectly. Maybe he had a lot to say and a short time to say it all.

😂😂

The BYU archives have the transcripts that were made. I had to use them in order to understand some parts.

monstermuleymadness Also the Church has altered , obfuscated and essentially recreated portions of its history. . White simultaneously discouraging members to look outside of the collection of correlated materials it provides for members to educate themselves on Church History and related Issues THIS PRACTICE constitutes. an effective TACTIC employed by many other organizations such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientology and others and is a form of INFORMATION CONTROL often combined with elements of. BEHAVIOR CONTROL as part of a Program of COERCIVE PERSUASION . Which is better known by another more ominous sounding name which you have most likely been conditioned to dismiss as unfounded in the case of Mormonism. , it can be much easier to recognize face practices when served in the program of an organization which you do not belong to in your case perhaps the Jehovah's Witnesses or Scientology would be useful for you to observe. Once you have done so and learn to recognize certain techniques it can be shocking When You observe them being applied within Mormonism Since the realization that the application of such technology within your own organization demonstrate a Deliberate and Convert Practice which Violates your trust, and as you may conclude to a degree your moral agency. . In studying the application of these techniques In other groups such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Scientology religion I notice these people have been conditioned to mentally shutdown critical thinking in regards to analyzing aspects of their own religious experience and organization and to reject thoughts that tend to undermine the assertion that they are being guided by the one true God in the one true Church. Since this Violates our entire belief system in which our reality is vested we normally will reject this. After all, we Know that Mormonism is mainstream and that the Lord is in charge We are not another Off the Wall totally out there weirdo Church like Scientology or the Moonies your know. Those poor manipulated victims who believe In some leader who alone has authority to speak for God and give Revelations which could be difficult for members to follow who have possession rational thinking abilities. But we're in the true church so I must trust in the Lord CTR & Follow the Prophet he knows the way. 3x Despite the effectiveness of Coercive persuasion techniques by these organizations,many people wake up when they recognize stark contradictions in the scriptures, doctrines practices and history of the given organization .

Give them sensory input.

Keep telling yourself that. It's so great to see people so dedicated to self-deception and self-brainwashing.

Bill Why did the little children at the time of nephi why did the little children get destroyed for not feeling nephi pain of his soul in 2 nephi 26;10 10 And when these things have passed away a speedy destruction cometh unto my people; for, notwithstanding the pains of my soul, I have seen it; wherefore, I know that it shall come to pass; and they sell themselves for naught; for, for the reward of their pride and their foolishness they shall reap destruction; for because they yield unto the devil and choose works of darkness rather than light, therefore they must go down to hell. So why did the little children get destroyed and the moron mormon god claims to sent the little innocent children to hell by the mormon god for the little children not feeling the pain of nephi soul?

So you believe all the following... teachings of LDS officials through the years. These teachings are documented from Mormon writers, NOT anti-Mormons. Atonement "Jesus paid for all our sins when He suffered in the Garden of Gethsemane," (Laurel Rohlfing, “Sharing Time: The Atonement,” Friend, Mar. 1989, p. 39.). "We accept Christ's atonement by repenting of our sins, being baptized, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost, and obeying all of the commandments," (Gospel Principles, Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1979, p. 68.). Baptism Baptism for the dead, (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. II, p. 141). This is a practice of baptizing each other in place of non-Mormons who are now dead. Their belief is that in the afterlife, the "newly baptized" person will be able to enter into a higher level of Mormon heaven. Bible "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. . ." (8th Article of Faith of the Mormon Church). "Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God," (1 Nephi 13:28). Book of Mormon The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, (History of the Church, 4:461). Devil, the The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus "in the morning of pre-existence," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192). “According to our teachings, Satan and an army of supporters were cast down to earth from the premortal spirit world. They are spirit brothers of ours, and are real persons having spirit bodies” (Joseph F. Merrill, Conference Reports, April 1941, p. 49). “On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some-especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel ‘who was in authority in the presence of God,’ a ‘son of the morning.’ (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25-27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)” (Jess L. Christensen, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, June 1986, p. 25). "A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8). God God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333). "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s . . . " (D&C 130:22). God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3). "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). God the Father had a Father, (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105). God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428). God had sexual relations with Mary to make the body of Jesus, (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218; vol. 8, p. 115). This one is disputed among many Mormons and not always 'officially' taught and believed. Nevertheless, Young, the 2nd prophet of the Mormon church taught it. "Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body . . . of flesh and bones," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38). God, becoming a god After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354.) "Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them," (D&C 132:20). God, many gods There are many gods, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). "And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light," (Book of Abraham 4:3). God, mother goddess There is a mother god, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443). God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516). God, Trinity The Trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35). Gospel, The The true gospel was lost from the earth. Mormonism is its restoration, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 182-185.) Consists of laws and ordinances: "As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements -- 'obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,'" (Articles of Faith, p. 79) Heaven There are three levels of heaven: telestial, terrestrial, and celestial, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 348). Holy Ghost, The The Holy Ghost is a male personage, A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, (Le Grand Richards, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 179). Jesus The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129). Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8; Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15). Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247). "Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body . . . of flesh and bones," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38). "The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood--was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115). “Jesus was begotten by his Father as literally as he was conceived by his mother” (Bruce R. McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary 1:144). "Christ Not Begotten of Holy Ghost . . . Christ was begotten of God. He was not born without the aid of Man, and that Man was God!" (Doctrines of Salvation, by Joseph Fielding Smith, 1954, 1:18). "Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh . . . " (First Presidency and Council of the Twelve, 1916, "God the Father," compiled by Gordon Allred, p. 150). Joseph Smith If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 670). Pre-existence We were first begotten as spirit children in heaven and then born naturally on earth, (Journal of Discourse, vol. 4, p. 218). "The Father, Elohim, is called the Father because he is the literal father of the spirits of mortals (Heb. 12:9). This paternity is not allegorical. All individual human spirits were begotten (not created from nothing or made) by the Father in a premortal state, where they lived and were nurtured by Heavenly Parents” (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 2:549). Prophets We need prophets today, the same as in the Old Testament, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 444-445). Salvation "One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206). A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus' plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to "deny men their agency and to dethrone god," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8). Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247). Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92). There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188). ......

@@Spaseebo So do you believe that Christians believe that they can be perfect like God? Matt5:48 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

What? There is no proof for the Book of Mormon at all. Explain the Bees, horses, iron works, and all the other items that the book lists as having been there prior to Europeans. As well the bookof Mormon doesn't even teach Mormon doctrines like eternal marriage, baptism for the dead, three degrees of glory or the Mormon belief of becoming a God

The Bible is a collection of many books brother, it is not a single book. Besides that, saying there's only "one" book is quite unintelligent. If you love the Bible, you will love the Book of Mormon, Jesus Christ is the Word in both cannons. God bless you.

I thought so too. No reason he couldn't really keep it on. It seemed like he was trying to shade his eyes from the harsh lighting. And sounded like he was instructed from his doctor. At least that's what it seemed like.

Completely agree! I would of told that guy to pound sand! That being said, Nibley is an oracle to the mysteries of God!

It does match. He just doesn't read the entire entry. He starts in the third phrase, reads a bit, skips a few words, reads a bit more, skips to the next verse, and reads a bit of it.

I have just discovered this man. He is fascinating.

Average lifespan is longer in atheist countries. And, even in the US, atheist live longer and are less likely to go to jail or to have teenage pregnancies or divorce than religious people. This neither proves or disproves God.

Remember the time it was filmed. The tech and equipment we have today has us spoiled to the state of art then.

Why did they make him take his hat off? Great lecture. But distracting video effects

Simon Jones YES!!!

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Where does the church say the BOM is more spiritual than historical?

It does not say that. You are misunderstanding

Archaeology has not proven that for one, and that is not what the church website says or what the stance of the church is, unless you are looking a splinter group of the church

@@scottbennett5649 I'm not in

I am here. I have no need to question that. You are here, but you are also free to question it if you like.

Bethlehem is 5 miles from Jerusalem. If i am a couple thousand miles from home should i tell ppl that i am from Chicago or that i am from a supburb of Chicago that they have never heard of

There is only one book that's the Bible. Revelation. Anyone adds or subtracts from this book God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

Do u know much about how the Bible, a book of books written at different times, came to be compiled in the form we now have?

Yeah, just come out of the closet bro XD

Prophecies can change. Read Jeremiah.

There's no controversy here. The Nephite authors tell you there are errors. Of course there will be errors. OF COURSE.

I know this comment was made 3 years ago, but I would like to add a simple solution to your discrepancy for others to see when they come across your comment. In Mosaih 27:23 the reference is to how long the priests fasted until Alma regained his strength, which was two days and two nights. When Alma is is retelling his own story of how long it took him to regain strength of his limbs, he records that it was three days and three nights. The two passages are clearly referencing two different events: one-how many days the priests fasted, two-how many days Alma was without strength. I see nothing contradictory. I assume the priests began fasting after the first day for a miracle. Yet another evidence of the truthfulness of the book of Mormon!

Dude never confessed to it

I know Nibley's granddaughters personally, they said the daughter that did that, is mentally unstable and disliked her father. For me that calls into question her accounts as tainted.

I have found that most mormons rarely speak of Christ. Their idol is the BOM. Sad but true.

You never hear Mormons say "I know Jesus is (fill in the blank)", but how many times have you heard "I know the Church is true"? Jesus takes a back seat in Mormonism.

@@Cryptosifu - Our entire religion and worship is centered around Jesus Christ. The name of our church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints." We do not worship The Book of Mormon, nor do we worship idols. We worship our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ.

@@diverseratman not the biblical Jesus, the church is far removed from the biblical Jesus. not that I believe in either versions. just because it's in your name, doesn't make it true.

@@Cryptosifu - We believe in Jesus Christ, that same Jesus of the New and Old Testament as spoken of in the Holy Bible. Now, whether the Church of Jesus Christ of Later-Day Saints is God's true church on earth today, that would be for you to find out.

You sure waste your time with all this gibberish.

bored

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-two-kingdoms-of-israel There were three superpowers around the time of Lehi (600 BC): The Assyrians, the Babylonians, and the Egyptians. Judah defected her alliance to Egypt and then to Babylon. If you do quick research on this, you'll find out that out of the three superpowers, Egypt threated Judah less harshly. Lehi, according to the Book of Mormon was wealthy. He could have been a merchant and when alliances are formed, commerce flows between entities. Lehi could have learned the language and writing of the Egyptians and taught his children, including Nephi. I'm stating this perspective here for consideration. It's up to you to decide. It appears like you like reading your scriptures. If I remember it right, even hundreds of years later, an angel who appeared in Joseph's dream instructed him to take his family to Egypt to protect the young Jesus. Also, www.moellerhaus.com/assyrian.htm. " Israel was exiled in this period and Judah was harassed and lost much territory to Assyria. 700 to 610 B.C. was a period of sustaining what had been gained and decline. Egypt had been subjugated politically but won the cultural struggle. Nineveh accepted the art and cultural styles of Egypt much like Americans are led by European culture. The artifacts dug from Nimrud from this period are almost totally Egyptian in style."

The Savior quoted Isiah more than any other prophet. So I guess He's a plagiarist as well?

Where did the book of Ether come from?

So-called scholarship? What is your scholarship such that you might question his??

With all due respect, what on earth are you going on about?

@@williamhenley8593 - like every seer stone fraud before his arrest.. Smith "found" treasure that he could not show you or produce [ let alone cash in ] this was Smith's last chance at convincing the locals who had him arrested and also Mr Hale who forbade Emma's marriage to a penniless fraudster -> -> -> there is no missing Christianity in the B of M so Smith's intent is to "restore" faith in Smith as a Seer - ridiculously obvious - please give us one doctrine the B of M has that the Bible doesn't - what issue did the B of M "restore" ? thx for asking

He died in 2005 and anyone who cherishes truth would come to know what he knew.

+bandy tandy He teaches from MEMORY. You could not teach this with a book in front of you. The Book of Mormon is THE WORD OF GOD and is 100% irrefutable.

BobMcDanielRobertson BOM is absolutely not divine and is 100 percent refutable and proven false! bookofmormonbookoflies.com click on evidence get educated!

LDS have shit for brains! Educated YES smart NO!

Stake Elder Anderson So, fake stake elder anderson, where was he wrong and what is the truth, according to the BIBLE?

Stake Elder Anderson At least when I refute the entire Trinitarian Church movement I site John 17:3 as a proof text.

+Glen Ames good one glen.... duh!!

Where is the proof? Evidence please? I deal in facts, not accusations.

Actually, it was Nibley's own daughter Martha Beck who accused him of molesting her. This can be found in her book "Leaving The Saints".

Really? Point them out. Don't worry; I'll wait.

​@@battlespace13 you've been waiting for a while, I admire your patience

@@Tao_Peace I read and studied the book of Mormon for many many years, thinking it holy scripture. I now believe it is an utter fabrication because, eventually, I cared about its truth claims and had to do more than just consult my feelings. The book of Mormon text does not hold up to honest and critical analysis. The story of the translation process is similarly flimsy. Once you step away from the emotion and spirituality that is entwined with the book, with clear eyes at a pure heart you'll see Joseph for what he was. Of course to do that you may have to leave Utah valley first 😉.

@@ozymandias6743 keep drinking your sauce of hate. The Book of Mormon is 1000% truth along with all the other Latter Day Saint beliefs. These beliefs go back to the beginning with Adam. The problem with you people is you want to sit on these sites and criticize church doctrine which you no longer believe. You want to try and instruct us faithful about things you no longer believe. You leave the church but can't leave the church alone!! Last thing I say is this, I feel sorry for you because one day whether it be here or on the other side you'll come to a full understanding of your faults with God being the witness. As for Utah Valley, what the crap are you talking about? I live in Florida... Maybe you need to get out of Utah. Anyway, have a real nice day....

@@Tao_Peace who in the hell drinks a sauce? What, you think I'm the fat kid out at Tony Roma's for uncle's birthday and when my parents turn to talk to Jenny about her clogging lessons I'm already double-fisting a mini carafe of mayo-cue? I got no hate for the church members, but a real desire to preach the truth to people and let them decide what to do with it. I wonder where I learned that?... Hmmm... Seriously, though, I have a ton of friends and family still TBMs. I wish them well. I love them. I loved my time in the church, the activities, comraderie, service, sense of community, Jello... It's all super great. However, the foundational claims of the religion are absolutely, unequivocally not true. So now what?

@@ozymandias6743 . I'm sorry you hold angst toward whatever it is. It's a free country and you're absolutely entitled to your belief. I wish you peace and hope that you can find solace. What you we should ALL Agree is that we as a human family need to stop fighting and come together to fix this Earth 🙏. That's all..,.peace

Mormons aren't taught that. They learn and are taught about Christ. Every time I've attended services there it's about Christ.

Of course they are not taught that, so it means the church lies about what they truly believe..they lie about what spirit the church really serves.

Because the Jesus Christ calls prophets and gives them authority. He is the way, the truth and the life, but he chooses men he trusts and gives them authority, with this authority comes responsibility for those that choose or do not choose to act on his words based on his actions. Should a man be allowed in that hates the prophets of old and refuses to acknowledge them? What good is the authority and responsibility if it has no meaning?

it came to me that above all FAITH IS a gift ! we that have received this message should be thankful and not voted for the contention?

You are correct, as a Mormon leaving the church, much is not taught to its members. Listen to the King Folletts discourse, read the history of Smith and his arrest, polygamists lifestyle, etc. The greatest con. Smith was a false prophet, there is no near to fear this man. Leave the church..