Running some small LEDs as well as a 100W white LED in LN2
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@landonferguson72827 жыл бұрын
clear led's are the only ones that change color because they don't have to go through a filter of colored plastic. The colored plastic ones change color in the diode but change back when they go through the colored plastic.
@quistan27 жыл бұрын
correct, I was about to type all that, thanks for doing it for me.
@landonferguson72827 жыл бұрын
your welcome
@james107397 жыл бұрын
landon Ferguson makes sense i really have only ordered the clear ones myself
@GRBtutorials5 жыл бұрын
Actually, no. LEDs are pretty monochromatic (except “white” LEDs which use a phosphor to convert blue to white), and the colored plastic acts as a filter, which doesn’t change the wavelengths emitted, it just attenuates some of them. So it would just look less bright. Try it: run too much current through an LED, but not enough to burn it, and you’ll see it changing color (I heard green ones work well).
@markbell97428 жыл бұрын
Safety Note: Wrap your glass dewar with cloth medical tape so when (not if) it implodes you will only be showered with liquid nitrogen not glass shards. Cheers, Mark ******************************
@tesla5008 жыл бұрын
+Mark Beeunas Are these vacuum flasks known to spontaneously implode?
@markbell97428 жыл бұрын
+tesla500 Well, yes and no. Probably not spontaneously, but if you bang into it with the supply dewar when filling, or when you loss hold of your test piece and drop it through the bottom, or if you knock it over. I have had a few dewars inexplicably implode while filling and my guess is some type of flaw was present possibly just a scratch. We also either plastic coated or caged glass vacuum vessels larger than about half a liter. Cheers, Mark *******************************
@TheRealFobican8 жыл бұрын
Would that liquid nitrogen work better than most options of energy containment if you want great density for an EV?
@markbell97428 жыл бұрын
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@Teth477 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about having a closed loop LN2 cooling system? No point, water has a higher specific heat capacity and batteries don't work at those temperatures because chemistry basically stops happening.
@goyabee32007 жыл бұрын
Probably would have been cool to point a spectroscope into the flask and observe the change in wavelength.
@motormaker8 жыл бұрын
When my father was a boy "1955ish". A man came to their small country school and did a science show for the kids. He cut a strip of rubber from an inner tube froze it in liquid nitrogen and drove it into a board with a hammer. The hammer head was made from Mercury. He had a small hammer head mold that the hammer handle fit into, he then poured the mercury and dunked the whole thing into the nitrogen. So yeah. Can you pound a rubber nail into a board with a Mercury hammer? I've heard this story many times since I was a boy. I hope to see it some day.
@maxbrewster2458 жыл бұрын
I did this same experiment a few years ago. When we dipped the LED into the liquid nitrogen, we increased the current through the LED, I can't remember the exact amperage figure but when it got to a few amps it suddenly transitioned to much brighter. My co-worker who arranged this experiment had read that after this transition the LED light becomes coherent (ie: laser light). We were using regular colour LEDs, not the white ones with the phosphor coating.
@DextersTechLab8 жыл бұрын
how about frequency changes in quartz crystals? If they survive the thermal shock!
@ketturi8 жыл бұрын
+DextersLab2013 I was going to suggest that too
@ketturi8 жыл бұрын
+DextersLab2013 I was going to suggest that too
@mikeselectricstuff8 жыл бұрын
LN2 versus hot object on high speed camera please!
@aaronwaffles8 жыл бұрын
+mikeselectricstuff RHNB? +carsandwater
@alllove1754 Жыл бұрын
Bravo. Seriously, thank you. You answered questions i was just positing. Cant wait for the S/LEDs... dip em when they come
@ProDigit807 жыл бұрын
In Liquid Nitrogen, you could overvolt the LEDs. I remember connecting those 3V 1970's leds to 9V, and for a while they would work in cool water. But in nitrogen, they should work a lot longer, and a lot brighter.
@vcannoodt78917 жыл бұрын
sometimes you can 'repair' broken rows by gently applying force along the row with a tine screwdriver. I had a 100W LED that had some bad rows and it did the trick
@emerybryant8 жыл бұрын
:o that led thing looked awesome!
@kacieisaacks30337 жыл бұрын
Cool video..I work with N2 everyday and yes you can get about 7 months out of that tank as long as you don't set it on concrete..also instead of the metal thermos you may have better luck with a styrofoam ice chest that's what most of the ranchers use when they poor there n2 out of the tanks to work with embryos and what not...it will hold the nitrogen longer than the thermos..again very cool
@davidgustafik79688 жыл бұрын
Hi, it's possible that you did not see a change in color in the LEDs because most of the color is guaranteed by the plastic body of the LED. Try dipping some clear body LEDs. Also, do this ONLY in a very well ventilated room - a small volume of liquid nitrogen can displace vast quantities of air and you get oxygen displacement, which is nasty.
@fen45547 жыл бұрын
You might mention this somewhere in the video, but the LED brightness might be fooling you. I understand that supercooling can lower resistance, but when you put the led in the base of the flask, you're half-building a flashlight.
@ParadoxTheHybrid7 жыл бұрын
Now this is some proper torture testing, I like it!
@peteladue4327 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the change in the brightness of the LED diode be controlled by the how the light is reflecting through the AQ Ni. ? and the flask it's self is very reflective?
@boydbros.36596 жыл бұрын
dude, this was really cool ...
@josh5806 жыл бұрын
jeezus ... that high frame-rate is really trippy o.o Also I think the reason the more modern ones get brighter is because of thermal efficiency equaling to less resistance.
@varikvalefor6 жыл бұрын
The ending made me chuckle.
@timeremapperegor12497 жыл бұрын
A big LED giving much more UV light, you can see a blue color through the luminophore,which making white light out of UV. Interesting video, thanks!
@bruceheadley719111 күн бұрын
Did this a work a few times .. it's impressive how much light an HP high efficiency red LED could emit, and how long it could do so .. i think we got it up around 4 Amps, as long as it was submerged
@christianrosing89292 жыл бұрын
The led matrix nearly looked like a reactor core inside the nitrogen 😊
@frontporsche7 жыл бұрын
Why are you using LED encased in *colored* plastic? That (obviously) would make it hard to see a color change of something *inside* the plastic.
@JeepVideoGuy8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video!
@Alexelectricalengineering8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I want see transistors (IGBT, MOSFET, etc.) in liquid nitrogen !! Thumbs up :D Alex
@Barrybados7 жыл бұрын
Well i boiled water with a 10 watt led but this is the other end of the scale : ) .
@Ozziepeck118 жыл бұрын
Led's are basically a short circuit, by cooling them down you mess up the circuit that goes with them, (by affecting its resistance) the circuit normally prevents the Led from drawing in infinite amount of current, probably why the 100W led started drawing a high voltage level.
@MrKillerpics8 жыл бұрын
i would love to see High-temperature superconductivity experiments ^^ Maybe too expensive and/or hard to get or noise performance experiments with CCD and CMOS sensors
@MrKillerpics8 жыл бұрын
+MrKillerpics Peltier effect videos would also be nice ^^
@1337Shockwav38 жыл бұрын
Does liquid nitrogen not conduct ... or is that the Leidenfrost-effect doing it's job? Didn't mention any special isolation, so I'm a bit confused.
@ceasefire0667 жыл бұрын
LEDs are made from semiconductor .the semiconductor has negative temperature coefficient.So as temperature decreases the resistance increases(opposite to conductors).. and as resistance increases the voltage drop across it increases and thus it has gone brighter..
@vancouvercameracyclist51097 жыл бұрын
From LED datasheets, heat tends to decrease the brightness of yellow LEDs the most. If the junction temperature is very high, its lumens can decrease to 10%. You would need light measurements to find out if the luminous efficacy increases with liquid N2.
@richbones84197 жыл бұрын
interesting how its cracked to temperature shock and came back on after warming up.
@eivilcow337 жыл бұрын
Hmmm will the plastic change color when I cool it down? No? I have no idea what's happening!!
@Teafoam7 жыл бұрын
I heard sitting in liquid nitrogen is the best way to get rid of crabs.
@TheFlacker997 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Very nice audio quality, it makes me think what would happen if you put a microphone in liquid nitrogen .
@adamthedog17 жыл бұрын
TheFlacker99 (Flak) Nothing really, AFAIK.
@nickhill94458 жыл бұрын
Appears optimal LED temperature is well above LN2 boiling point but apparently below 0c.
@JVerschueren8 жыл бұрын
As a matter of interest, what was your thinking behind this video? -did I miss any tricked videos where this colour changing effect was supposedly demonstrated for the non-white LEDs? I mean the colour of emitted light in those cases is tied to the very nature of the doping element involved and temperature, as far as I'm aware, doesn't change the absolute level of excitation which needs to be overcome for them to emit a photon of a particular colour, hence only the brightness is affected by temperature. QED. It's only when you bring a secundary effect into the mix, i.e. the phosphorous translating blue light into white light, a second, temperature dependant (things need to vibratre at a certain amplitude to excite the main, light emitting, material) phenomenon manifests itself. Not wanting to critisize as such, but this result was to be expected. It's cool and all, but: why?
@tesla5008 жыл бұрын
Here's a video where they put an orange LED in liquid nitrogen causing it to turn green: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/at1he8yXq8fdfok.html
@JVerschueren8 жыл бұрын
Mmmyeah, and the 1st 5 comments on that video are from people saying they can't reproduce the effect. I don't know whether they're using a bi-colour led (which glows orange when both substrates are driven) and the cold shifts the output such the green can overpower the red, or somesuch, but the phyisics behind this is the electrons in the dopant can be in a finite number of states and the fact of exciting them to the higher ones and having them drop back down emits a photon of a certain wavelenght. This takes a finite amount of extra energy and is thus, in theory, independant of temperature other than it will happen more at lower temperature as there's less "noise" due to temperature.and overal conductivity is increased. I might be missing something, but unless there's a video explaining the phenomenon instead of merely showing it, I'm going to err on the side of the colour change being a trick.
@Hoch1347 жыл бұрын
I think the problem was that you didn't use clear LEDs. There are clear LEDs which have different colours but a clear type of glass around. The ones I found in a quick search were called "waterclear" or "transparent". Buy a few of them on ebay and I am sure they will work.
@GRBtutorials5 жыл бұрын
It does work, you just need the right type of semiconductor, and it also works with lasers! Watch this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7ahqK2VrrHDqmw.html.
@TheError4047 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a small brushed motor run in liquid nitrogen
@Brant92M8 жыл бұрын
How do voltage references/regulators perform in LN2? What about ceramic caps and other passives?
@MakeTestBattle8 жыл бұрын
That was really neat. :D -Justin
@thesmallestatom8 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're awesome!
@ddrl468 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a CCD in liquid nitrogen?
@DanFrederiksen8 жыл бұрын
maybe how copper lowers in resistance. see if copper can be used as a flash nmr imager
@pauls57456 жыл бұрын
interesting :) but shouldn't you take all precautions when handling LN2?
@eligonzales1862 жыл бұрын
How long does liquid nitrogen last when exposed? Let's say I put it on a plastic cup?
@octaviobermudez74267 жыл бұрын
why the voltage increase with low temperature ,in semiconductor material the resistance is going down with high temperature? dont find logic .
@DJRobbie548 жыл бұрын
WOW That was COOL. Nice Video. YOU GOT BALLS.. lol lol lol
@witeshade8 жыл бұрын
Ah and how about seeing if you can turbocharge a peltier element. See how much power you can generate by, for example, having a power resistor heating up one side and having the heat sink on the other side dipped into the nitrogen.
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
Try LN2 cooling 635nm laser diodes. They lase orange at anywhere from 625nm to 607nm depending on which type is used.
@Patchuchan8 жыл бұрын
Put some laser diodes in LN2 though I suggest sticking with the little 5mw ones as the goggles may not stop the frequency shifted output.
@WestCoastPicks7 жыл бұрын
Is Mode any better than RP? I also live in the lower mainland.
@Spirit5328 жыл бұрын
What power supply are you using? Also, joining the rest of the bunch in the comments - could we see some high speed LN2 action?
@tesla5008 жыл бұрын
+Spirit Power supply was a dual 30V 3A bench supply in series mode for 60V.
@thekaiser43338 жыл бұрын
+tesla500 -- Orange has a SHORTER wavelength than red. But I don't think you would observe any relativistic effects here. Quantum effects at most.
@redloki_537 жыл бұрын
fascinating stuff.. may give a mini cameramodul a little dive while its recording,when its working you can use it for macros :)
@nielsdaemen7 жыл бұрын
9:07 12:23 What you are seeing are tiny droplets of liquid water or: mist. water vapor/steam is invisible.
@SirBasslineJunkie7 жыл бұрын
r u telling me vapin is a sham all along
@yucannthahvitt2517 жыл бұрын
Yeah bruh, they just didn't want to call it "atomizing" because that's what perfume dispensers are called.
@Ezzell_7 жыл бұрын
i have not read all the comments...but in case any one is wondering why the leds got bright and volts went up when they were in the nitrogen...as conductors cool down..their resistance decreases.
@gianvitodifilippo7 жыл бұрын
Actually, I believe the low temperature increases the semiconductor's energy gap. In other words you need more voltage - with a constant current - that is more energy, to overcome the potential barrier and let electrons combine with electron holes, and therefore to stimulate the emission of photons.
@BenBradford17 жыл бұрын
How about a little electric motor submerged in LN2 turning?
@korsanders31097 жыл бұрын
JayzTwoCentz tutorial on how to overclock your LED's
@HDXFH8 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea
@compwiz006 жыл бұрын
I wonder if IR LEDs can become visible...
@Madarpok8 жыл бұрын
overclock a Raspberry Pi with LN2?
@Coolkeys20098 жыл бұрын
Nitrogen in sealed containers high speed camera action. More semiconductor behavior at low temperatures(overclocking as others have said), superconductivity, any other weird interesting physics affects that can be achieved at those temperatures.
@SproutyPottedPlant8 жыл бұрын
What about a speaker or would that all crack apart?
@JustinAlexanderBell8 жыл бұрын
I wanna see some arcs through liquid nitrogen, or something silly like that.
@AlexanderChilds7 жыл бұрын
The LEDs get brighter due to the lower resistance allowing more power to be pushed through. It's not that they change color, necessarily, it's more that they emit more of the original color/light being produced and brings the light out of balance with the specs of the LED (hence the white light turns blue, according to your explanation of blue LED covered by a yellow phosphor coating making white). I don't think red, green, or blue would change color, just get brighter. Good experiment though! I enjoyed watching.
@verdatum8 жыл бұрын
I've been dewar shopping on and off for years now. Did you go with new or used? where did you buy it? would you recommend?
@tesla5008 жыл бұрын
+verdatum I got mine used from ebay. I researched many common dewars found on ebay and this one seemed the best of what was available at the time, it has a very long holding time. There are many new dewars that seem reasonably priced from China, but I'm not sure how good those are. There are a lot of Union Carbide/Linde dewars available used relatively cheaply, but there's very little info on them. I was able to dig up a site that said they only have a 30-40 day holding time, so those are out of the question unless you use LN2 quite quickly. If you're searching, try other terms like "Nitrogen Tank" or "Semen Tank", these are often used for transporting semen for artificial insemination of farm animals. Other than that, probably go for something not too old as the vacuum will leak out (in? which way does vacuum leak?) over time and the holding time will get worse.
@verdatum8 жыл бұрын
tesla500 Thanks for the detailed response! Yeah, the, uh, specimen, tanks seem to be one of the more common things to come up on ebay. I've mostly just been looking for one that is a reasonable volume, doesn't look too weatherbeaten, isn't ridiculously priced, and I've got the discretionary income lying around. Those just haven't synced up for me yet; but it's been an on and off search.
@calfeggs6 жыл бұрын
The resistance increases the colder it gets, and decreases the hotter it gets.
@DrTune8 жыл бұрын
When the LED gets brighter is it actually getting more efficient or is the current increasing? (i.e. did you use a current-limited PSU or a series resistor)
@GreenAppelPie8 жыл бұрын
Getting much more efficient, brighter and the change in color indicates the energy it takes to 'cross the gap' is becoming less.
@tesla5008 жыл бұрын
+Dr Tune The current was constant, but the voltage did rise by 30-40%, so the power was higher when it was cold.
@Ozziepeck118 жыл бұрын
+Dr Tune I presume its because its getting colder,lowering the resistance, meaning it can operate more efficiently and give out a brighter light. That would seem logical.
@girlsdrinkfeck8 жыл бұрын
+tesla500 yh ,higher resistence right ? so needed to pul lmore volts
@GreenAppelPie8 жыл бұрын
+Dr Tune After Your absolutely right, we can't come to provable findings until we know if the PS increased the voltage or if the Voltage drop across the LED dropped. Please repeat this experiment.
@myxbigxfruitxstickx7 жыл бұрын
Hard drive in liquid nitrogen. Magnetic and SSD?
@testa98827 жыл бұрын
Nice safetygloves ;)
@GreenAppelPie8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more LEDs, try UV, IR, blue, green, pink.
@brandonfowlkes44068 жыл бұрын
+GreenAppelPie an infrared LED might be cool to watch, because it might raise higher up into the red spectrum. However, an ultraviolet LED would be fairly boring, as we cannot see ultraviolet with our eyes (neither can *most* cameras) and the wavelength of the UV would just go farther into the UV spectrum. Near UV would be interesting though.
@GreenAppelPie8 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Fowlkes I didn't assume anything would be directly visible, I'd just be interested in any current or voltage changes for the different wavelengths.
@2awesome2927 жыл бұрын
Try it at like 1mA and go up untill it gets visible?
@marcferretti4 жыл бұрын
Does this increase the efficiency of the led?
@DjResR8 жыл бұрын
Usually heat causes the phosphor to lose effect.
@soski72003 жыл бұрын
New idea: RGB liquid nitrogen products.
@steven46018 жыл бұрын
What about an induction. I could imagen the PF getting really bad (which should indicate there are fewer losses) on a unloaded motor nearing fully reactive operation. (if the bearings don't start to bind up)
@steven46018 жыл бұрын
+steven4601 +motor.
@ruthosorio99137 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why a white LED produced a blue colour when submerged in the Nitrogen?
@shana_dmr7 жыл бұрын
Because white LED is really a blue LED with yellow phosphor:)
@SeanBZA8 жыл бұрын
Chill some steel bearing races and drop them to see if they shatter, or use some cast iron, which should be very brittle in lH2. Aluminium rod should also just snap like a straw, depending on the alloy used.
@samu51677 жыл бұрын
Ever wondered..how do you make it?
@jwuethrich83857 жыл бұрын
how much does LN cost per liter and where does one find it? being able to replace just the glass on an lcd/oled panel is a money maker but the newer panels and esp curved panels are a bitch. great thing is they embrittle with around the min temp of dry ice. ive tried dry ice but it wasnt ideal and i dont want to spend the 10k companies in china want for a ln circulating cold machine. hoping 300 bucks can get me a filled 3l tank of ln
@scottfranco19627 жыл бұрын
So you got the dewar on ebay, where did you purchase the nitrogen?
@tesla5007 жыл бұрын
Air Liquide, a welding and industrial gas supplier, for about $2.50/liter
@Dosbomber7 жыл бұрын
That's not a terrible price... I'll have to look into a dour jar. I have a few experiments I'd like to try out. LN can be used to make some amazing ice cream. :)
@TrollFaceTheMan5 жыл бұрын
You need to use clear LEDs to see color changes.
@shazizz8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@sc0tte1-4168 жыл бұрын
How does the liquid nitrogen evaporate if there's a cap on the container?
@brandonfowlkes44068 жыл бұрын
+sc0tte1 The container doesn't have a "cap" per say, it's more like a piece of Styrofoam that sits on top to provide more thermal insulation. This allows the expanding gas to escape, otherwise there would be pressure inside of the container that would need to be vented every time you opened it anyways, which defeats the purpose of even sealing it. The reason that liquid nitrogen does this, is that at room temperature, nitrogen is a gas. Nitrogen has to be cooled down in order to become a liquid. When the liquid nitrogen warms up, it boils just as water would.
@uTube4868 жыл бұрын
That was great..Thanks
@Kyrazlan7 жыл бұрын
expecting a colored lens to change color :/ That doesn't make sense. Try it with a RGB clear lens LED
@TecKonstantin8 жыл бұрын
You should try SMD LEDs in my experience they work quite good for showing it. Somethings else to mention, at low temperature u get an increase of the band Gap so the wave length gets lower. But if u try out a green one in it gets orange, that would be the wrong way around. The explanation it a bit complicated but if u are interested i can try to explain it. Just try some SMD LEDs if u have different types, lasers could be also interesting, but don't put something in N2 u don't mind destroying. Have fun, u properly will have
@wudude35458 жыл бұрын
The voltage/brightness increased because the liquid nitrogen lowered the resistance of the wire
@unclebubba18727 жыл бұрын
How about dropping in some disposable lighters? Of course, in a safe environment. There are also a number of foods that can be quick frozen and are completely safe to eat immediately afterwards. I'll leave the selection to you. New subscriber here. :-)
@CauseImYourFat7 жыл бұрын
this guy gonna make explosive lol
@stefantrethan8 жыл бұрын
I think you might have gone slightly outside the specified operating temperature range there, better ask the chinese vendor if negative 195 C is still OK ;-) Crazy that the silicone would shatter like that, maybe throw some other silicone stuff in? I assume you saw the video Shahriar made? He got nice colour changes. Does anything interesting happen to magnetic materials? Ferrite maybe? What about capacitors?
@paulstubbs76787 жыл бұрын
How about trying it with a laser diode.
@JustAGuy93-G7 жыл бұрын
Would it not become brighter due to the copper becoming superconductive?
@SilvaDreams7 жыл бұрын
Correct-ish, the conductivity increases as the temperature drops as there is less resistance. It didn't change color though because the LEDs weren't actually orange/red just the plastic casing around them were.
@Kycilak7 жыл бұрын
The conductivity sure rises, but for superconductivity of metal one needs temperatures in units of K.
@ersinkosoval83585 ай бұрын
Now I understand why is the sky light blue
@fueledbytacos2187 жыл бұрын
what camara are you using
@josh71207 жыл бұрын
was that lightening i heard at 4:34?
@ptolamaustittan7 жыл бұрын
when the voltage increased why didn't he reduce the voltage to compensate
@akronymus7 жыл бұрын
he had the output current regulated, at least he said
@ImDelphox7 жыл бұрын
extreme lamp overclocking
@aggabus5 жыл бұрын
Why volt upage entering liq
@Miki9817 жыл бұрын
This is funny to me, cause in my language, led is a word for ice! :)