One of the most satisfying things in L4D2 is emptying a magazine in a dark area and seeing your muzzle flash light up the area around you. Such an awesome little detail that not many games have implemented

You also missed the part where L4D characters actually have personality.

its really amazing how impressive the source engine still is even after all these years

I just love that the devs proclaimed that they can "do better". And the gaming community was like, "no"

Is it just me or does everyone get disappointed when you can’t break a tv screen in a shooter

Left 4 Dead: Has Coach. Back 4 Blood: Doesn't have Coach. I believe the results are crystal clear.

Basically what B4B did is made us appreciate L4D more.

The fact it took them 1y to make l4d2 after l4d is mind-blowing

That's why l4d2 is a masterpiece even after 12 years, and there are still a lot of players on the servers

Gunning teammate down in L4D2: ''Get up bro, this ain't place to die'' Gunning teammate down in B4B ''Did you guys heard something?''

While back 4 blood may look real, l4d just FEELS real. Which is really cool.

It’s not even the little details that make Back 4 Blood worse, it’s just the gameplay. I can respect their attempt to recapture lightning in a bottle, but doing so twice in a row just isn’t possible

That sense of "loneliness" and "atmosphere" that L4D gives off that makes it so much better. I grew up playing the first game. It'll always have a special place in my heart.

What I like about L4D is their Specials are Specials, you hear their music cue, the sound they produced. Its just so much more memorable and gives you terror and immediately raise awareness when you heard it.

I feel like I've seen loads of comparison videos like this where older games seem to have more attention to detail than their newer counterparts. I think that is a consistent thing with quite a lot of games and is maybe reflective of the industry as a whole, at least on the AAA level. I think nowadays gaming is soo commercialised, and built around making a flashy 'product' efficiently and quickly, as opposed to being labours of love that are crafted over time with a high attention to detail, that often small details like this are left out.

You can tell how much devs cared about l4d2 unlike with back 4 blood.

Always has been better in the most iconic ways. No other zombie shooter can possibly fill the "3" shaped void in our undead hearts.

imagine seeing some kids that got into bfb some years later saying that l4d stole everything

I love how in l4d the zombies have death animations depending on how they got shot. Yet in B4B they just ragdoll

In fact, L4D2 is one of the best games. So many small details, good graphics, very cool and lively characters (Coach is the best), very cool screensavers (I love them), a lot of enemies and locations, AND ALL THIS CAN BE RUN ON a PREHISTORIC COMPUTER, if it's not a masterpiece, then what is it?

It's really incomparable, L4Ds are way way more detailed, a masterpiece indeed.

Feel like too many games are focused on window-dressing their games without having those things interactive. I feel like we've bypassed a golden age of gaming where the minor details were front and centre. A game world with hyper-realistic assets that you can't do shit with actually takes me more out of the game. An older game where I can open the fridge and have the light come on inside it takes what is an otherwise shitty looking asset with low resolution textures into something that feels REAL.

L4D2 was made with love.

4:06 "Who tf shot me" "So... Im to blamed?" Being a badass and being a jerk are 2 different things.

I've been playing L4D2 for around 3.5 years, figured out a bunch of tricks and mechanics and still never knew that you can actually open a freaking fridge xD

I think people don’t pay that much attention to detail while developing these new games

I always found shooting/destroying or just a simple interaction with the ingame environment to be satisfying and fun(among other small details). And the fact that B4B barely had any of those is kinda disappointing ngl.

Left 4 dead 2: has physics Back 4 blood: screw physics

The biggest difference is one you didn't highlight. How enemies react to being shot. It's vastly superior in L4D2.

Static environments and lack of "gimmicky" details are some of the worst trends of modern games. I mean: remember Crysis? Every watchtower had destructible physics, even every freaking tree had physics and reacted to gunfire, explosions, etc. That game came out in 2007 and look where we are now...

L4D1 and 2 has gore and body dismemberment with ragdoll physics Nothing exist in B4B

More than make me realize the overall difference in quality of left 4 dead and back 4 blood, this video made me realize really how much detail left 4 dead had which I hadn’t really noticed before

-Interesting characters with interesting personalities and they fit the setting -Maps have alot of interactable things -Infected designs are cool and have their own unique themes -Eviromental story telling -Director adjust the flow of the game giving it alot of replayability -The mechanics aren't overly complicated for no real reason

Alternate title should be “Why Source Engine was phenomenal”

It's amazing how little details make a big difference between both games, as you showed in this video. I was really hyped for B4B but after this, I'll keep with l4d2. PD: You forgot the versus part.

The strange thing is that old games have bad graphics and realistic physics, and modern games have good graphics and unrealistic physics. I don’t know why this happens

Honestly this is a good sign and reminder that Source Engine and Valve's care for even the smallest of details can go a long way. L4D has been going strong for more than a decade while B4B already is getting flack both over the minor details and core gameplay problems (absurd difficulty spikes between each one, annoying card rng, attachments being welded to a gun permanently, etc.) Makes me wonder just how much of the original L4D's successful design is due to Valve, its very likely that L4D would've been yet another game not remembering let alone for more than a decade if TRS didn't get help from Source nor Valve, who would make a timeless sequel without TRS anyway in a hilarously short amount of time

To be fair, L4D2 was made by valve who are infamous for their almost psychotic level of detail and. B4B is a game that came out on 2021, meaning it is legally required to be unfinished and made with as little effort as possible.

L4D: Expressive facial morphs B4B: Basic built-in jaw flap feature

I can't imagine a game like Left 4 Dead without the environmental interactivity that Left 4 Dead provided. Just shows that Valve really did carry Left 4 Dead's development.

Why a pistol in L4D2 sounds more powerful than a shotgun in B4B? I hate how new games tend to have pathetic weapon sounds

0:55 Also the muzzle flash actually lights up the environment in the old one

The only difference between l4d and b4b is that one had 98% of its devs being valve employees. Simple as that.

I dont know if im getting old or what but i miss how simple left for dead was safe house to safe house simple pick up items like health packs pain pills simple guns but back for blood seems a little stale like a left out bag of chips. Its a bit compicated and involved me using more brain power than i want in order to figure out the game and how everything works. Im so upset at myself for buying the 100$ version and i bought 2 copies so my girlfirned and me could play fast forward a few months later i see it in the online store on sale for 30$.

L4D and L4D2 gave me a sense of dread and despair during my childhood that no other game could ever possibly give me again. Being in the darkness most of the time during L4D is a pinnacle of terror. Horror games, on the other hand, are just jumpscares and loud noises that throws me off but L4D is incomparable that I can't even put it into words of how much I love this game.

When Valve makes a game, they do it right. They always feature even the smallest little details and they deserve a lot of respect for it.

The difference between a game made with love for the industry and a game made just for the money

Left 4 Dead 2 is so detailed that Back 4 Blood doesn't have the word "details" in the video title.

what i miss the most in back 4 blood that has in left 4 dead 2, is the parkour. you can't climb anywhere and in the map there has low things to climb), having a high ground didn't give you much advantage, you can't avoid special atacks by jumping from one thing to other(like a container to other),because they can attack middle air and there was no gravity. on l4d2 i can bamboozle the tank with parkour give my partners time to recover,doing the objective or helping killing him, or i can solo him. just with using the terrain in my favour,but on back 4 blood it's just, shot, moving doesn't give you much advantage so shot

The biggest downgrade for me is how incredibly solid the ridden physics is in B4B, what make L4D infected different is how fluid the infected can move around the environment but with B4B the ridden physics is making me have a dejavu with CODZ

Left for dead certainly felt like an immersive experience.

The fact back 4 blood was made by the same people as left 4 dead yet didn't capture the charm or personality of left 4 dead showed that they failed

Valve's attention towards detail is one of the reasons why their games are so good, hope valve doesn't change like other studios.

There’s just something so satisfying about the source engine’s intractability with most of the environment. It both immerses you in the world and gives way for little fun moments.

Most modern day games don’t include many small details anymore, only company to really keep doing it nowadays is Nintendo, BOTW had so many small details that just made the game world more believable. Maybe some big cinematic Sony games keep this trend up, but I feel like most games don’t anymore

This reminds me of comparisons between Battlefield 1 vs Battlefield 5 and how the latter had much less details (And in my opinion looked inferior to BF1). Like in Battlefield 1 I loved details like how your gun would get dirty if you dove into mud and how it would wash off in rain or if you went into water

"Back 4 Blood proves Valve carried Left 4 Dead" - Crowbcat

I really wanted B4B to prosper. It's quite a good game, but not for the price and the lackluster gameplay (oddly enough, L4D2's is much simpler yet more satisfying). "Less is more" describes this situation perfectly.

It’s annoying to think that games from decades ago have more care put into them than anything nowadays.

Theres also a difference witht the shooting animations. Left for dead feels smooth and punchy, while back for blood is snappy and quick.

What's great about the engine is, its interactibility. It makes nearly everything react to everything. Movable objects, destructible assets, even guns with hitboxes. Half life 2 is based around these, relying mostly on physics puzzles and world interaction

"Why L4D2 is better than B4B" *Closes fridge door* K

the most important feature : Left4dead Split screen ☑️ Back4trash Split screen❌

The only thing I like about back for blood is the animations and that’s it left for dead it was truly a legend game

I like how in L4D if you're really really good you could realistically get through any campaign without taking damage but in B4B beating veteran, the difficulty above recruit mind you, is practically impossible solo and even when playing with others you can just die because of how the game spawns things. Specials can spawn behind you unlike in L4D, with the exception of holdout finales and versus. Specials have no sound cue, they can literally just sneak up behind everyone or hide around a corner, which you probably wont know till you're being attacked. The worst offender is retchers who just stay out of sight or somewhere you cant shoot them, damage everyone and then cant be killed or gets away because everyone was caught off guard.

The shooting animation on L4D2 looks a ton smoother compared to Back 4 Blood. In B4B it’s a lot more snappy and I’m not a big fan of it

Turtle Rock didn't notice those details to make this game more played until now.

Marketing: "Back 4 Blood is a thrilling cooperative first-person shooter from the creators of the critically acclaimed Left 4 Dead franchise" Reality: "Back 4 Blood is a thrilling cooperative first-person shooter from the creators of EVOLVE"

Okay but no one told me i can open fridges and shoot gravestones over the years i been playing

Back 4 Blood is such a lifeless, soulless game. As someone who has played L4D since 2008, I couldn't even bring myself to finish B4B.

Over 90% of the devs who worked on Left 4 Dead didn't have any part in Back 4 Blood. Most are still with Valve, and it's sad how Turtle Rock try to take the credit.

Fun fact : Zombies in l4d2 can also open and close bathroom doors!

Because L4D1/2 is a masterpiece. (Lot of hidden details)

Its impressive seeing a game with a lot of details that has low spec requirements

0:40 Rochelle: "Does it hurt as bad as it looks..?" Coach: "What in the hell do you think?" funniest shit hands down

Someone once said that Back 4 Blood is like faeces wrapped in a gold foil.

I would consider some of the "details" basic features in a modern game like Back 4 Blood, really feels like an unfinished game

4:24 "WE'RE MAKIN IT LOOK EASY!" yeah, you literally have every little detail that b4b doesnt, and its makes more sense when you have every survivor in the safe room, youre supposed to work together, not speedrun.

Today's gaming is just focus on how the graphics looks realistic not the details

Left4Dead: a game with heart, personality and amazing attention to detail. Back4Blood: a game.

The answer is very simple!!! Because no other zombie game can give memories like left 4 dead especially the sacrifice and dark carnival chapter!!!

One of the things that strikes me most about the level of detail put into L4D is how the infected behave when theyre not aggro. Stumbling around but also randomly fighting each other, vomiting, sitting down, laying down. And their facial expressions going from vacant and a bit sad to rage. It makes you sympathize a bit that these poor bastards are still human in some basic ways.

It's funny that an old game has more details than a newer game

The safe room is the biggest crime shown. Like wtf.

This is why Valve games nailed everything on gaming history until these present days, I'm so glad I've played Valve games before playing other generic games today. Thanks Valve for giving us such a great experience and real concept of a game with just only had simplicity and complexity not either other games ever succeed it until these days.

I never got into back 4 bloods beta . Left 4 dead and the old dead risings we’re always the best zombie games in my opinion .

I like to think that Valve had two teams - one for making sure the game worked and was fun, and another for making sure players weren't bored during downtime.

Turtle rock should know by now making a zombie make without valve is the worst possible thing they could do

Source (2004) vs Unreal Engine 4 (2014) This perfectly shows why the Source engine still is one of the best and most immersive game engines out there. It might not support some of the fancy graphical features UE4 does, but trough the attentions to smallest details and the mostly believable physics and interactability with the world make more than up for this. A lot of my favourite games are made in Source, and the engine is a big part of why I like them that much.

That's one of the great things about the valve releases, everything is interactable and makes sense, game devs these days often forget that these details aren't just fluff you put in if you have time, they make the world feel like a real place independent of the player and not just a kill room you've been dumped in.

Great vid. Considering buy b4b and found this video. Downloading l4d while watching it.

I played it on the beta with my friend. I could instantly tell I was NOT going to enjoy that shit. I had to babysit the AI bots all the damn way, and FUCK, the dialogue. "Oh, I'm sorry", "My son died out there, be more respectul", and other shitty liners. Nothing wrong with a little bit of that, on some special heart to heart conversations, but NO, EVERY DAMN TIME IS ONLY THIS SHIT. I actually had to turn the voices volume off because it was pissing me off so much. So much walking on eggshells in the END OF THE WORLD I coudn't belive my ears. Where is Ellis telling stupid stories, followed by Nick telling him to shut up? Where is the day-to-day shit talk, but the brotherhood in not leaving anyone behind? Every little thing in L4D was about it: 4 persons left behind, with only eachothers backs to count on, and we rolled. So when my friend asked me if I wanted to buy and play it with him, I said no. If it was to play something, we could play L4D, but not that. He said to me B4B had better graphics, and I asked him if he would get pegged if the girl was beautiful, too. Bitch, I play CDDA. Graphics are not something I worry about.

Damn, the source engine is almost 20 years old. Still holds up to today

Sad we have more powerful machines and less attention to deta

like how a 2009 game has better game aspect and details then a 2021 game which only good thing it has is visual quality

Literally Left 4 Dead is back for blood, while Back 4 Blood is left for dead.

Those tiny details add up and are really important for the player experience. I think you don't need the best graphics or complicated mechanics to make a great game, most of the time you just need to give the player an awesome experience. Maybe most players won't notice those details at first, but they will feel "something" that drags them back to the game.

u guys are legends for making more l4d2 content!❤

Left 4 Dead: Has Francis and his hating to all things! B4B: Doesn't have Francis and his hating to all things! I too believe the results are crystal clear.

Law of Power #41: Avoid stepping into a great man’s shoes "What happens first always appears better and more original than what comes after. If you succeed a great man or have a famous parent, you will have to accomplish double their achievements to outshine them." Pretty much describes Back 4 Blood.