While one of us still stands, we are legion

Opinion of the majority of fans awesome statement

It has been given glorious unlife

vae victis my man

Games like this never died game companies are just killing gaming with their online games obsession

It would probably look like a Bloodborne’s creature

it would not look as dreadful as it looked back then. the reason for that is that the "bad" graphics, which were awesome graphics back in the day, made him look even more grotesque and other-worldly, leaving many things up for interpretation makes the horror games of long gone days way more horrifying than modern games. just think about it, not a single monster or whatever in modern games actually horrifies us anymore, because they are, visually, understandable, you instantly know what part of the monster is supposed to be, but you didnt in those oldschool graphics

@@Manowarrior1992 you do have a good point, but I own up that I would like to see LoK creatures on a modern game’s design

@@Manowarrior1992 You are also older and have seen it evolve over time. My kids lose it over silent hill 4 and chuckle at Silent Hill. A game that made me sleep with the lights on when I was young. Silent Hill 4 had no such effect.

I think that perception evolves over time, honestly? They might be going through the same things you did, just like the most modern game in your time was terrifying, and older ones (Or hell, the first) where not at all scary

*stares in exestential horror at the fast food around me and the unused workout equipment*

@@TragoudistrosMPH Lool

@@TragoudistrosMPH Am I so changed, brother?

Yep, he was actively glad to be killed "I AM RELEASED"

Your mom encoraged you to play this game as a kid? Dude, your mom rocks.

Cool mom, tommy, bless her 😎

What a time we lived in where some parents were bold enough to allow and/or even encourage their children to indulge in mature media.

@Horrorcrusher8312 Well, now parents expose their children to LGBTHDTV4K+++

@@Horrorcrusher8312 the rule was; I could play games for older people with a parent. Even my mum found the LoK series a bit tamer compared to Silent Hill or Resident Evil so she didn't supervise me as much on LoK compared to the others lol

Just like in bleach the 10 espadas. The weakest is arenniero the only gillian among them and the last of the first generation of espadas and the most monstrous of the 10. He 2 heads with 2 voices inside an capsule with probably inhuman body and his sword is an tentacle with an mouth in the end.

weakest yet strong in other ways

His gift of phasing through walls was certainly one of the most useful for Raziel during his adventures. We employ it a lot.

He was the weakest at the start, yes, but the fact that he could enhance himself by basically assimilating others, could suggest that his potential might be the highest of them all. If he hadn't fallen into a suicidal depression, and kept building himself up and optimising his form, he could elevate his strength as far as he wants, given enough victims.

What do you mean the most "Terryfying?" Zephon the giant spider? His face breaks open into multiple parts!!!

#facts. Fascinating then and now

Makes me wonder what the full transformation Dumah and Raziel would have looked like had they not become wraiths. Dumah has been described the developers as evolving rhinoceros like features if he wasn’t stopped by humans.

@@crimsondynamo615 They would have devolved into bestial monstrosities either way, Kains tainted bloodline corrupted each of his vampire offspring.

@@crimsondynamo615 Raziel pbly would have been a bat.

Me too! I also thought it was bittersweet how as mutated as Raziel was after being thrown into the water, and as much as he despised his new self, he got to see that all his brothers were much worse off.

Hopefully sense is slapped into the world soon and life returns to somewhat normal

@@murderousmayhem6362 100%agree with you

Don't count on it.

Except people are afraid of a lot of bullshit.

@@WillJM81280 I'd prefer Vampires over magats any time.

Haha! Good one!

I say it when I shit in public bathrooms.

@@asssassyn lmao

Look up The Rotten in Dark Souls 2

I want to hear more about Zephon or Rahab next.

@@tonts5329 Not much to hear about them unfortunately, they weren't developed much

@@tonts5329 I bet rahab n zephon story be cool af

I finally got to see what raziel's brethren looks of. This is pretty cool, honestly, I wish there was more done with them.

@@backwash69777 I mean there are so many important characters in the LoK series, they can't all get an equal slot of game time.

Agreed! I would be happy if they did this and a remake of Soul Reaver 1. Couldn't care less about the sequels

He only wanted to kill Turel, Dumah and Kain. The rest of his bethren were on the way. But by the time he reached Turel (both in the OG Soul Reaver game and Defiance) his bloodlust was over, meaning that his rage was solely to Kain and not to his brothers.

@@Death_Korps_Officer Raziels interaction with Zephon and Rahab is totally different than the one between him and Melchiah. Raziel was sad after killing him while he mocked Zephon and Rahab

It's clear that Raziel and Zephon really disliked each other and had a somewhat troubled story. Zephon also seems to like what he became, unlike Melchiah who feels disgust and self-loathing.

Those are my thoughts exactly. In fact, Raziel's dialogue with Melchiah implies some pity, and Melchiah's words do not seem to hold any hostility toward Raziel. Also, the oldest-youngest dynamic might have given the two some kind of special bond during their vampire lifetimes. Speculation, I know, but it's a feeling I always got from their encounter.

@@wandererg5117 I can somewhat relate as the youngest brother of the team (though we are not mutated murderous vampires). At some level you will always be a kid brother to him. Similar dynamic is indeed present here, as Raziel refers to Melchiah as "little brother", has a soft spot and does regret how it had to end.

But what about the voice actors? A lot of the original actors have passed away 😔

@@munstrumridcully The best way around that is to use the existing audio. Like they did for the Medievil remake. If they do decide to remake the games, they should invite the actors who are still alive back to redo the voices and just use the old audio for the actors who have sadly passed away.

@@strictlyfantasy that sounds good to me! :)

@@strictlyfantasy they also did that with the Destroy All Humans remake. New graphics, gameplay mechanics, even a cut level from the original but they kept the original voice files

@@munstrumridcully There's a lot of other good voice actors out there, I always imagined Michael Ironside as Vorador's new voice for example. Basically any older man with a gravely authority commanding voice would be good for the character.

something I still tell my siblings to this day

Few threats can compare to this eloquence

Big little brother xD

*"Everyone is afraid, sibling. You awake to a world of fear. These times of change are so...unsettling. Do you think that I have no revulsion for this form? Do you believe, for a moment, that our lord would risk his empire upon an upstart inheritance?"*

Nosgoth is like a gothic version of Tolkien's Middle Earth. I hope there'll be a remake of Blood Omen 1 so we can further explore and be immersed in that world. I wanna explore all the places Kain visited in 3D, the gypsy camps, the towns and villages, the castle city of Willendorf, the twisted area of Dark Eden, Malek's bastion - Nosgoth is so rich in exploration.

Wow... that actually sounds like something I'd want to play!

@@TragoudistrosMPH You may want to read the "Grim Hollow" setting by Ghostfire Gaming then. Basically, gives you many tools to play a grim-dark setting. An actually balanced transformation system into Vampire, Werewolf & more can be found in the book/PDF.

Sounds fun .nosgoth is a greatly detailed world

@@Rahab111222But It’ll be developed by Aspyr media like the Remastered trilogy of Tomb Raider. But William the Just and Vorador will have new voice actors to take over while I’m thinking Anna Gunn or she and Alistair Duncan’s daughter will voice Ariel, And Alistair will return to voice Mortanius.

Nicely said!😈👍

@Erik Blanche Thanks Eric! As one fan to another of the legacy of kain seires happy Christmas and a excellent new year to you🎆! 😎👍

We are legion

@@bobloerakker7010 via victus!😈👍

Just imagine Ozar Midrashim playing in the intro scene! Shivers..

Although I do somewhat of agree, I am actually kind of relived that no one has done so. Without Amy Henning at the helm and Tony Jay as the Elder God, any new game set in the same universe would likely be somewhat lackluster and probably dissapointing compared to the original. That being said though, the Square Enix Collective has allowed this game to be licenced by external developers. All we have gotten so far tough is the bland and boring "Nosgoth" game. But if there are some devs that are actual fans of the game and franchise out there, we might someday see a competent succesor to this game. Although again, I honestly dont think anyone can recreate the magic and sheer talent that was behind the original games(I dont count Blood Omen 2 in this, as it is subpar to the Legacy series for my taste).

@@AreEia I think it's too late for a direct sequel to Defiance at this point, even if the original team would somehow be working on it again. The series isn't iconic enough to make the masses excited, so it would most likely fail to stand out, as it would be near-impossible for any new players to get into without the knowledge of the earlier games. The other two options would be either to remake the old games to get the fanbase going again, or to reboot the series. I'm not necessarily saying that either should happen (though I'd give my soul to Elder God for remakes of Blood Omen and Soul Reaver), it just frustrates me that there's so much potential in the world of Nosgoth, the characters and the lore, but it's outright wasted because nobody's even trying to do anything worthwhile with it. In this regard Nosgoth (the game) doesn't count.

@@ZealSeraph Agreed. And all in all, atleast we got Defiance. And even without a "proper" ending to wrap up the series, I kinda like Kain's last monologue about hope. But yeah, it is frustrating that to see all the wasted potetial for something that could have become one of the best and most thought provoking game series of all time. But on the other hand, atleast we did not get several lackluster "spin offs" and the series being milked dry, wich (for me atleast) would be a far worse fate for the series. "Kain: (Narrating) Now, at last, the masks had fallen away. The strings of the puppets had become visible, and the hands of the prime mover exposed. Most ironic of all was the last gift that Raziel had given me, more powerful than the sword that now held his soul, more acute even than the vision his sacrifice had accorded me. The first bitter taste of that terrible illusion: hope."

@@AreEia That's the other side of the coin, to have too many sequels, prequels and spinoffs, many of which take too many liberties with the story until the whole world just collapses on itself because of the rewrites and paradoxes. Many franchises have suffered this fate. Thankfully Legacy of Kain isn't one of them. And there are certainly worse notes to end on than that monologue by Kain.

I think it's just coincidence, and how would you correlate each brother to each element? Here's my guess: melchiah - dark zephon - air rahab - water (the only obvious one) dumah - stone/earth turel - fire raziel - light kain - spirit As far as I can see you can make arguments for any of them except rahab. Also the reavers in the original soul reaver concept are different to soul reaver 2 or defiance, there was a planned sound reaver but no air/darkness reaver. Sound would obviously go to zephon, he was in the silenced cathedral, right?

@@llVIU actually working it out for a vid. Can't find my notes atm but u gain mastery over earth to climb. You use fire and water to kill two u mentioned. Raziel clearly gains a boon for air with the wings. It's loose and spread over the series. First raziel absorbs the brothers and eventually kain in Williams chapel.he closes the loop in SR2 and ends up in the sword. Until later when raziel walks the reaver path going thru each temple. Here the elements are more upfront. But the 7 elements do have symbols that repeat around the pillar structure. The brothers and kain make sigils of their own to replace. But in game you go back further in time to reach a note pure form of the elements. In defiance it's the souls of the ancient Winged race that fuel these forges while previously it was gained by solving puzzles based again loosely around elements. The 7 elements are the constants in reality that the elder god doesn't control unlike the 9 pillars which he has powers over each. But I agree this is a shrouded topic that multiple writers have a hard time connecting game to game. Want to write an ending for the story which is why I'm reaching out to the biggest fans I can find. First we need to rewrite BO2 but I think I got that covered. Kain loses to william in this new timeline,who is actually the hylden lord from BO2. Idk that's a whole other can of worms

Whith wich element does each of Kain's children correspond?

@@arx3516 been working that out and it may be easier to find some than others. But in sr1 it's my view the elements are most corrupted by the whole process of the Elder God disrupting the timeline and of coarse the hylden curse or infection. So to restore balance the tyrannical stars set in motion the plan to restore balance. So Raziel is first to overcome or assimilate an element which I think is obviously Air with his wings. This is also the duality of the hylden becoming vampire and vampire hylden. As in Kain evolved into a hylden type while raziel resembled the Winged race. Anyway not all brothers assimilate their respective elements. As in The incectoid brother is actually vulnerable to fire, while the one who adapted to water still succumbed to the sunlight. Darkness and light being the most abstract elements may correspond to the brother trapped in the astral plane, who also I erraticated by fire but much more powerful flame almost to destroy his vessel for he could always re-enter it. Kain could have made enough sons for each pillar but he doesn't and I suspect it's due to this 7 elemental purifying of Raziel in both his forms and eventually giving kain the full boon of his enemies sight but also the elements in balance. The reaver on Raziel's arm is his old insane self who was trapped in the flipping coin continuum. I mentioned before kain bares the reaver w Raziel's soul because he is the only one who can satisfy the hunger and madness Raziel faces bound in the sword since the end of SR2. When raziel removes the heart of darkness while they hold each other's reavers is when raziel freed kain from the hylden curse and also fulfilled the need for kain to die and restore balance. Which is in the far future where they left in sr1. Raziel willingly giving himself is key to IT all. Sorry for the rant. But the brothers question is one I've been working on. Gotta dig out my notes tho. Let me ask you, how do you see it? Main issue is we know SR had content cut, so the admixture of the elements may have been more obvious. So what I'm saying is they are more of admixtures of the 7 elements until you literally go to element forges. All to create a weapon and one Worthy to wield it against the elder god.

@@llVIU yeah your right. They are admixtures of these 7 and corruption of the pillars and their bloodlines leaves them unable to fully adapt. Raziel, being a hylden soul, was actually closest and this is what enraged kain the first time around

Rest In Peace To All Of The Legacy Of Kain Voice Artists No Longer With Us.

Yeah I've been waiting for Mortanius too.

Melchiah the grafted

Square Enix should think about a remake of the whole series, and in the meantime make the old games fully compatible with modern systems, no graphic enhancement, just make the games run with PCs, consoles and support modern controllers.