Your review is 💯 on point. You summed it up perfectly 👌

Yes. That's what developers said. We survived the apocalypse. The ending. The big freeze. Then they said "what's next?". They could have pinned us against another big freeze but it would be stupid. We already survived it what's the point of doing it again. So they then proceed to say along the lines how it is natural to shift towards the city and the people itself. Cities are growing. No longer people want to follow a captain that's ordering them around they want common interests etc etc... So yeah it replaces and it doesn't replace frost punk 1. It replaces in a sense that we get to do "the next phase" in the story which is shifting towards people and surviving peoples interests now and not surviving the environment. But it doesn't replace it as it's not the same expanded micro managing (where you control the generator itself and houses in the district) but you are now macro managing, building massive districts of a city and managing massive population that thrives now since there is no more big freeze (though they said obviously it is still freezing as hell but there is no more looming total freeze on the horizon). Can't wait to play it once it launches.

I get it and it makes sense. I am still thrilled at this game but the one aspect of the game I love the most, is now gone: micro managing of the population and worker allocation in each building/resources. It feels way zoomed out to me. Hopefully when I try the game, it will have its own charm that will enchant me the way the first game did.

@@yuzuftazimo2157 Yes i feel the same, there was core system in F1 which make this game so creative and challenging.

​@@yuzuftazimo2157they removed the charm and what made the first one great. It doesn't feel intimate, it is a generic and commercial experience.

I believe there's another 2 more factions have not introduce in the beta

@@ZaimGamePlay I believe its the Lords and Workers

@@SentinalhMCwould make sense if they are planning sequel campaigns to the campaigns of Frostpunk 2. So dealing with the lord/worker divide after the Refugees scenario, reseeding the wasteland as a sequel to the Arks scenario, etc

I like the Ice Bloods.

​@@purpledevilr7463 Well they do wrestle Polar Bears.

no, the other ending is factions war

I'm going to turn into a monster so fast! Me and DDRJake!

Invest in Watchtowers and be prepared to declare Martial Law.

@@jamesbrice3267 hell yea!

9 hrs? oh man this is gonna be good

Calling other opinions dumb is narrow minded. Not everyone wants to play a political game

If u cant see, why people are mad, maybe, u are the dumbest... just saying.

​@@edwardr9130 If you don't like it that's fine. Steam forums though is just an endless circlejerk about how the game is horrible. Most of them don't give any constructive feedback, they just doom about how the game will fail because the devs took it in a different direction.

Yeah, I’ve been thinking about this a lot too, I think I can articulate what a lot of the haters are thinking respectively. I really miss the feeling of the original FrostPunk and I wish the sequel felt as personal and I don’t think it can leave as much as an impact without it. A lot of things that worked for the story and atmosphere of the first game disappeared, things that were very deep and important in the original that made it such a personal experience to everyone who played it and pushed video games as art. It was something that made the original game so original, so unique, and all these things were integrated perfectly, it’s what made it FrostPunk; without it, FrostPunk 2 is a lot more like a really well made city and political builder, but not necessarily FrostPunk. It’s like comparing the grittiness and brutality of Fallout 1 and 2 to the lack of it in the newer installments, they’re like completely different games. But I do think it’ll still be a lot of fun, the Beta was much more fun than I thought and it brought back that feeling of trying to manage a complicated and unforgiving system of law, resources, and humanity, that left me joyfully stressing what I would try next time, I loved that from the last game. I liked trying to figure out how many different things I juggle would work together. The new elements strongly contribute to these feelings, as a dirt poor leader, I have to carefully decide where I’ll put my money, research, law, construction, exploration, or whatever the people want this time, and in all those categories there’s another hundred things to decide on that tie into things from other categories. It does have many of the same elements, a lot of people loved in the original, but the other half is left mostly without. The original FrostPunk was for story lover's (that’s the best I can define it); if you were terrible at city builders then it only added to the experience! It also was a great city builder. Story lovers only played it until their first city barely survived, because that is the most interesting and compelling and personal story. City Builders played until they built their perfect city, because that’s the best challenge and puzzle and result. Story elements are extremely fragile and hard to create, the story elements lost from the original FrostPunk made a much bigger difference than the city builder elements. It’s nowhere near as good a story because -even though it’s just as hard, with the same challenges - it’s not so personal, so it’s not as stressful, and therefore less powerful. Story lovers are passionate, so FrostPunk 2 being different than they hoped hit them harder than you might’ve thought. I strongly respect 11 Bit studios’ decision to make such big changes because of artistic integrity, experimentation, and story. It feels like a strong continuation of the story. It’s their choice to decide, not the majority of people (so much art is the same because artists throughout human history have catered to the majority, even though people who appreciate art are a minority, and they all want different things, so we’re often left unsatisfied). It’s an opening to the brand, and if there’s a FrostPunk 3, I hope it’s also very different as well. However, making us pay $74.99 for a full game and 3 DLCs (which probably won’t finish for about 2 years) to play very limited beta that was only available for one week was a sleazy business move in and of itself, but FrostPunk 2 is also guarantee to split the fan base because of its new direction, AND the beta was also guarantee to not satisfy the story lovers because it didn’t include the story mode which they wanted most them. That hefty price tag definitely fueled the fire, I think saving the story mode for later was a good move but the Beta should’ve been much cheaper. Also, politics are a trigger, FrostPunk 1 gave you the option to do immoral things but it was clearly meant to be seen as immoral, politics are much messier than that. On a more personal note: In the end, I love FrostPunk as a city builder and I don’t regret my purchase, but I fully understand why people are upset, I love stories too and I’m really upset I can’t have more of the original FrostPunk. I wish there was a FrostPunk 1.5 that took place only a few years after the original and was more personal, it doesn’t need to be bigger at all! All the other scenarios didn’t have near as climactic ending but I stilled loved them just as much if not more. Many fans of the series have ideas for more scenarios that are really interesting and inspired by FrostPunk. Honestly, I just love ranting about FrostPunk. I really hope that the story mode in FrostPunk 2 is also really deep and emotional. It probably will be because politics are a deeply complicated and human thing that is very personal to many people so it’ll be similar, but also very different.

​@@PaulPrisbreyeven if fp2 is the best city builder ever made, it won't have the emotional connection that the first one had. I replayed the first one over and over. I stopped playing the beta before it was over.

There is at least one building like that, the air transit hub, so it stands to reason there may be more.

You have to play the first one. It will make all sense brother!

Your comment is a mess, so confusing dude.

@@sqoualalaobikord9690 what is the confusion? The first game basically set a gold standard so high it would be unfair for any game to live up to it. This sequel looks good compared to most games. Just not compared to the 1. one

@@minidude112 thanks for the clarification.

@@sqoualalaobikord9690 no prob. I guess you are kinda correct. Maybe it were indeed confusing. Did you try the prequel, frostpunk 1?

@@minidude112 I did and I loved it. One of my favorite games. There is only one thing I'm disapointed about in the sequel : the bland UI as it was a big thing in FP1. Having played the first game I enjoy the bigger scale as it is a direct evolution from FP, like coal to oil. And I must say the new law system is great, there are more, they have more consequences, and they can even be changed.

The cantina is closed ! Stay at work ! Slackers will be shot !

(technically a one-party system, but desperate times call for desperate measures, you could be a dictatorship in the last one, why not this one? p.s. dictatorship was really effective.)

@@DarkangelAn0n Authoritarianism seems to be an option for laws, just not available in the beta.

I feel like frospunk 2 lost big immersion that was present in frostpunk 1, by changin UI to generic one, and that you don't even see how people work, walk to work, and go about their day, now all we see is some shadows of people flying through city at the speed of light...

still beta until 22nd of april i think

I don't really get why people are complaining about a loss of "freedom" when you barely had any freedom in the original Frostpunk. You built all your houses around the generator's central heat zone, and all the production were built outside of said heat zone. Every city I've built winds up looking the same.

It is not, but it is ok.

@@bryanrocha2035 Stop judging it based on a beta with less than half the content.

They sad that this is nealy 40% the game. So yeah, The game will be almost The same as The beta version. I liked it, but could be much much better, like The first FP.

@@bryanrocha2035 In what universe does "nearly 40%" translate to the game being almost the same as the beta version? Nearly 40% is less than half, meaning that we've only seen a fraction of the game. Your math ain't mathin.

Guys, guys, everyone knows the beta or early access of games is nothing at all like the final product right? Game studios always release something to the public and then go back and completely change everything about it before launch

You realize you can just cancel your preorder if you don't like the beta, right?

which is the same for the first one too? it's not city builder in that sense, it's a survival game where you have to make choices to survive? Did you even play the first one? like wtf even is that comment man XD

He's not saying fp1 was a city builder. Learn to read.

@@DutchDude002 Yes he was. He said FP2 "Looks like a city builder" and that it was "not even close to fp1" implying that FP1 is a city builder.

I think that the drastic change in how the games look and play is part of the feel. Cities and societies change. Not everyone likes it

Frostpunk was always "just numbers." The individual people never mattered, they were just another resource. "Do I have enough people for the building or don't I?" At no point does any individual person matter after the early game period, because once you get automatons and access to Tesla City, your labor problems are solved.

Ah yes, the game where you build city districts is clearly not a city builder.