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Much appreciated! This is precisely what makes these videos worthwhile. Apollonius is worth far more recognition. Be well.

He probably never existed. But maybe it's the same character as Jesus in many ways. Maybe he was even the same guy.

⁠@@jojolafrite90yeah, no. He existed, are some of these stories probably exaggerated? Of course. But there was clearly someone who revolutionized Neo-Pythagorean philosophy in the first century AD that was highly influential throughout the Mediterranean world, because otherwise Neo-Pythagorean thought just resurrects itself in a multitude of different places simultaneously by way of osmosis.

What is the title of the book you found on Apollonius? Who is the author?

@@phillipjordan1010 Apollonius Of Tyana by Alfred Percy Sinnett

Let's GOO! Thank you. More to come

@@americanesoteric can't wait bud!

A Greek Sea God Who Possessed, Drawing by Mary Evans Picture Library

@@americanesoteric thank you very much, i will try and find it

What old name of Jesus? And Apollonius wouldn’t have been crucified, he was from a wealthy family and had full citizenship. Romans didn’t crucify men of that ilk, they had other methods of execution (namely beheading) or punishment (like flogging and other sorts of physical brutalizing). There’s literally a single account of a crucifixion not being fatal and it was because it was interrupted. Apollonius was super well known in his time, if he was crucified believe me there would be a record of it having happened.

3:46 Hermes Trismegistus was likely not Egyptian but instead Mesopotamian and based on the real person Zarathustra.

21:43 Celsus’ Library was in Ephesus, the ruins are still there.

21:59 there’s too much hermaphroditic clownery permeating modern society too.

25:35 I’m pretty sure the term succubus is more accurate for the nature of the woman his friend was going to marry.

yeah, this one got a bit loud. Shouldn't be a problem in the future. I did post the audio-only version on the podcast.

It’s in there.

Yes this is correct. Hence “Legends”

Please and thank you

@@MeloScott838 Sahara Desert By Sotirios Bakas. It may only be avialable to paying members of "Motion Array."

I don't know. I know it has been speculated.

I'm going to go off on some wild speculation here, but maybe Apolonius was Paul's inspiration for change and to look on the early Christians with respect. If it's said that men as wise as Jesus and John the Baptist were in the area at that time, I don't think it would be far fetched to say that there were tons of people who walked the same path but that doesn't necessarily mean they were all one in the same.

Na, Saul of Tarsus was a real person who was likely in tight with Josephus and the Herodians, there are writings from him to suggest he was related to the Herodian family. Apollonius was definitely someone known to Saul, and to Josephus, Saul did likely base the philosophy expressed in the New Testament upon that of Apollonius of Tyana, because the Neo-Pythagorean/Platonic philosophies being expressed in the New Testament are starkly contrasted with the thoughts expressed in the Dead Sea Scrolls, there’s not much to suggest that the ascetic communities in the Judaean Desert in the first century had a sudden about face from the ideas presented by the same communities in the previous century. Now there has been a lot of work done on the Roman Empire’s usage of Jewish prophecy within their propaganda, especially during the Flavian dynasty and amongst them in particular Vespasian and Titus. The Flavian imperial cult still needed men to write the propaganda who were familiar with Jewish traditions and scripture, which is where Saul and Josephus come into play. The fusing of Apollonius’ Greek philosophical background and exceptional success as a healer combined with the understanding of Jewish prophecy and scripture provided by Josephus and Saul is what enabled the Flavians to produce the foundations for what would over the coming centuries become Christianity. I find it interesting that prior to Constantine there were two religions that were competing for dominance; Mithraism and Christianity, with Mithraism being extremely secretive and based upon mystery school initiation rites along with advancing through and accumulating knowledge by progressing through the levels of Mithraic Rites and Christianity being highly ritualized with repetition of chants and prayers being a central element of it’s practice; Mithraism was the favored religion of the officers in the military and with societal elites while Christianity was quickly becoming the dominant religion of the underclass and the foot soldiers and such within the legion. Constantine’s arch features a ton of Mithraic imagery and one of the oldest churches in Rome has a Mithraic temple beneath it, and he associated himself quite prominently with the Flavians, despite not being at all related biologically. Roman Catholicism literally means Roman Universal Religion and was likely meant to fuse the religions which were most popular and widespread through his empire at the time to try to bring about some cohesion and salvage the empire as it was crumbling. I think the emperor Julian recognized what had happened and tried to reverse it, but didn’t live long enough to get a real chance to do so, and it didn’t help that he had come along so late into the process that it may have already been irreversible. The Romans were all about control and this concept of one religion for the poor, uneducated masses and one for those who were educated and wealthy seems like another method meant to keep the populace subdued and under control. Which is the opposite of what Apollonius would have wanted, but much like many rebels, his philosophy and beliefs were appropriated by the subjugators in order to better control and subdue the very people the rebel was attempting to help and liberate. Truly a sad sort of fate for a man who wanted to help and possibly outright save the world.

What source says he was ever in Germany?

@@americanesoteric ydk the legend of the deceiver leading youths into a cave ? There is overlap with the gospels (zacharias barachai, Camillus, Zebedeus, klopas), Acts ( elymas, agabus and 'apostle' Paul /Cornelius ). Revelations (nicolaitans, 2 witnesses, congregation of churches), Quran ( dhul qarnain, gog and magog, 7 sleepers ). Alexander romance (naked people at the edge, closing of a wall), Drusus germanicus (travelled to germany, egypt, arabia felix and spain), Greek myth ( phaeton strucked by lightning Zeus), Celestial (cygnus/swan above ophiuchus / popeye the sailor), Archeology (4th century Huqoq 'Alexander' mosaic), Talmud (pantera, kamtza). It is not rocket-science to see the overlap between Paul and the pied piper .

@@willempasterkamp862 Once agian, what source says he was ever in Germany?

@@americanesoteric Germanicus pandered the rebel-rhine-legions into capitulation, the apostle paul 'persecuted' people of from the path (=rebels) , the pied piper freed hamelin from rats (an existensial treath). All then were badly rewarded for their labor . A statue of Pantera Sidonia Abdes Tiberius was unearthed at bingerbrúck Germany. There is overlap between the child-murder of bethlehem, Germanicus twin sons martyred at Pandateria (island of the juggler), and the leading astray of the hamelin-children. It are 3 versions of the same legend. Germanicus is the historical original, the horn-bearer (melchi-sedek). There is also overlap with the destruction of the 'people of Ad / height' (quran), Saints of high places, nicolaitans, claudians, scattered elects (far off abroad), and the lost boys of peter pan's adventure-island.

@@americanesotericI see that guy on a lot of these sort of videos, and frankly his sanity is questionable.

If you really want to learn, bad grammar, disculpe!

nerones germanicus revividus chrestus (adopt son of claudius divius) most likely appollonius stories are derived from drusus germanicus

@@willempasterkamp862 Based on what?

@@americanesoteric nerones is the grandson of Drusus germanicus, Jesus is the 'son' of the 'blessed' Zebedeus is the father of the boanerges ; John and James , which are Jesus uncles (gog & magog) .

Apollonius does not claim he was a prophet but points back to Pythagoras as his Master. And about Pythagoras, his biographer Iamblichus writes: "Farther still, no one of the Pythagoreans called Pythagoras by his name, but while he was alive, when they wished to denote him, they called him divine; and after his death they denominated him that man; just as Homer represents Eumæus when he makes mention of Ulysses, saying, 'Him, tho’ he’s absent, yet I fear, O guest, To name; such is the greatness of my love and care.'

Since you mention Buddha, let me enlighten you a little on that. There are no one that blasphemes the name of any Buddha because in contrary to Christianity there is no rule or concept that says you shouldn't use their name in vain. So it simply does not hold any power to use them as cuss words against Buddhists. Furthermore, many Buddhists see words themselves as fundamentally empty, so they can be of no threat. As to the Living God, Buddhists see Buddhahood as metaphysically much larger than the Christian God. In Buddhism, even gods exist in Samsara (the illusion of the substantial world). Becoming a Buddha (reaching Nirvana) means ending the illusion and becoming one with the true emptiness, and that is seen as much more powerful to Buddhists than any god, even the omnipotent Christian God. A Buddhist sees the resurrection of Christ as a punishment to him, because resurrecting, or reincarnating, is seen as part of the cycle of suffering, and it is only when it is broken you can find relief.