the heart wants what it wants :P

@@smashpop I'm pushing 60. I guess it's a middle life thing, you know, splashing out on a fancy car or whatever when a damaged old banger that still roadworthy (yes, I do have one of those!) would suffice. lol! I used to own an M6, but it was so damn expensive to get new lenses back in the early 1990's that I sold it in favour of the new digital Canons that were arriving on the market. But I think I also sold the M6 because being a Leica, it had no fancy stuff on it, no bells and whistles etc, and just like the D-Lux 8 you are forced only to do one thing and that's take photographs. This is what I love so much about my old GR (D IV), that it's a camera with a fixed focal length, and you only have one choice, to take pictures. No excuses. You cannot dream of anything else once you get a Leica. AND you must justify that price, by just getting on with it and take pictures. I hope you get where I'm trying to go with this argument! It's art and a sort of spiritual Zen, where you have no choice but to explore the world and press that shutter button.

Save your money and get a Panasonic LX100 II for half the price. Basically the same camera.

@@michaelbell75 rubbish. The LX100II is out of date, and uses a completely different operating system. I'd rather buy new instead of relying on an overpriced behemoth that some previous owner may have dropped by mistake. I mean ask yourself, if it is that much better, why are they selling it?

Save money for a real Lecia. This is more of a Panasonic than a Lecia.

The red dot tax

Yes. I have the LX100M2, and I agree.

I guess the EVF is not trash like in the LX100 II?

@@ManuelPalaciosVZLA it wasnt to me. i enjoyed the evf.

@@smashpop sorry, you are right. It felt like trash to me. Maybe it was my copy. In any case it does seem like the Leica has an improved viewfinder… but still, it is the same sensor and lenses. I really like the images coming out of my LUMIX, so I don’t need to pay for the red dot :)

Criminal in as too expensive or a bargain compared to?

I’ll be honest this thing actually competes hard with the Ricoh in my eyes. I might pick one up when I go to Japan.

I think my sony rx100va beats the GRIII any day with a built in viewfinder and zoom capability. True it cannot compare to GRIII “street photography” shooting style. And the sensor is smaller, but all around it is a lot more fun to use than the GRIII. GRIII is overrated. As an owner with 2 full frame cameras. I am happy to be able to have a small camera as my daily driver. This D Lux 8 seems like a step upgrade from my rx100v5a. I was thinking about the Q2 or Q3. But they are still quite big and heavy. In this case since image quality is not the main focus here. Portability and ease of use are main reasons for me to buy the D Lux 8

@@stephjant6461it's a 5 year old camera. They shouldve updated it compared to its Lumix counterpart

@@tomfenn7149criminal as in expensive...

You think they could just put in a sensor shaker and a little replaceable hatch with a sticky interior in the base to soak up the dust. Or possibly an access port to the sensor. It does not seem an immensely technical problem. The problem is the makers just seemed to think with compacts once sold they could be forgotten hence few firmware upgrades. This concept did not allow for the inflated prices now charged for such disposal items. Surprising that this remake of an old design at an inflated price is such a complete surprise to the experts. So many people posted after using these particular LX100 cameras vowing never to buy a fixed lens camera again. Nice enough camera if you can afford the risk of throwing them away after a few years.

You really should read the specs it look over a serious review. Fundamentally you are right about the basis of the hardware, of course, but the controls and software have been fundamentally redesigned. Whether that is worth the money Leica are asking is an important question, but that is the same with anything a Leica badge.

Just because something has the same sensor doesn’t mean it’s the same camera. Ergonomics, software and shooting experience matters. Doesn’t make it worth the price or not worth the price but it does matter.

@@TheOjnop Yes, because controls and software are worth another $1,000 over the 2018 Panasonic model 😃

i really didnt know lol

Regarding Micro 4/3rds: Yeah, Panasonic and Olympus continue to come out with new upgrading cameras using that sensor. I've been shooting with them since they jointly introduced the mirrorless concept with the Micro 4/3rds sensors 12-13 years ago.

exactly what i said. really wish they bump it up to 24 or something

@@smashpoplike the one in the CL

Its just a rebadged Panasonic LX 100 II

no problem. i still love the ricoh. but i really want to zoom as well haha

Kinda an ignant statement, no?

thanks for watching!

Yes, 24Mp

I like push on-off buttons in pocketable cameras because it prevents accidental activation, though I certainly wouldn't call the DLux 8 pocketable. For whatever reason the optics don't cover the full M43 sensor, which I think is reasonable given how compact it is.

hi 5!

Be even nicer if Pani did a version of it ;)

u might have a point.

But have you owned a Ricoh? I've owned three GR's and two of them (both the newer GR, not GRD models) were so unbelievably unreliable. Failing lenses. Dust. Poor back wheel, GR3 OS always crashing etc. etc. Urghh! My 12 year old GRD4, still my favourite, is a workhorse, but the sensor in it is slowly dying. Although both Ricoh and Leica are metal, the Leica just looks more sturdy than anything made recently by Ricoh. Ricoh and Fuji are also made in China. And lastly at least on the Leica, and just like the older GR's you get 4:3. On the GR III you're stuck with 3:2 and 1:1. Nothing else. And why crop if you have a zoom? With Ricoh you're stuck with a fixed 28mm or 40mm equivalent. So if you want both focal lengths, it actually works out way more expensive than the Leica!

@@tomfenn7149i have a leica Q1 that has dust inside and the screen is bleeding. Have to send it to a different country just to remove the dust. Also had a leica M3 that couldn't find where the light leak was coming from even after sending it to one of the best Leica camera repairmans in UK.

if u really like it. then its worth it.

but iPhones are also made in china. they r still genuine iphones though. the x100vi also made in china. just saying hahah

@@smashpop yes, but Leicas are regarded as a precision instrument manufactured in Germany by skilled craftsmen. iPhones have always been made in China and everyone knows that. If iPhones had been made in the U.S. or in Japan and then switched manufacturing to China, I would have a problem with that too. I have the Fuji X100 F and the X100 V. I will not be getting the X100 VI because I think Fuji is doing a disservice to their customers by moving manufacturing to China.

It wasn't a comparison video! It's his first Leica and he's giving his view on it. What don't you understand about this?