Leica D Lux 8 Didn’t Want to Like it! First look

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Ай бұрын

Leica D Lix 8 quick overview. Took the D Lux 8 for a quick spin in Zurich thanks to my friends at Leica Store Zurich. At a Glance the Leica D Lux 8 has a lot of the character from the Leica Q3, smaller and with a zoom lens instead. The image quality is surprisingly great. You can check the post here on KZfaq. I’ll be doing a proper overview this weekend when I put more time with the camera. But I can see how this camera can be a great addition for anyone looking for a tiny pocketable Leica camera with the great range a very decent resolution. While the Megapixels of the Leica D Lux 8 cap at 17 that’s pretty much more than enough when you take in consideration that you will zoom in for your framing giving you enough res to print fairly large.
The Leica D Lux 8 sports a Micro 4/3 sensor that offers stunning image quality. One of the surprising things in the D Lux 8 is the speed of the Autofocus.
The startup of the Leica D Lux 8 is really fast as well.
The menus and interface have been mirrored from the Q3 and recent cameras such as the Leica SL3 and M11.
Enjoy this quick street photography journey with the Leica d lux 8 while I get ready to film my in depth review of this little camera.
Subscribe for that upcoming video and feel free to ask any question you may have.
I have to say that I didn’t want to like it this much but grew on me in just a few minutes.
#leicadlux8 #leicadlux8review #dlux8

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@glennsak Ай бұрын

I’m excited for this new D-Lux. Some great upgrades and arrives right after the X100VI.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

The Fuji is better at being a compact fixed lens and I own it. But the fact that this one is smaller and has a zoom lens makes it more suitable for certain situations. You will get better results composing at the right focal length with 17mp and a M4/3 sensor than trying to crop out a 35mm equivalent apsc into a 70mm framing with the Fuji. The lens on the Fuji is soft for what I’ve notice since I had it. Nonetheless they are both totally different cameras for different purpose or requirements.

@ABarrera Ай бұрын

The design makes this very tempting for me

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Awesome ergos

@LIGHTHUNTER.D Ай бұрын

Would love to check one of these out

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Little cool camera. And I think I’m getting one!

@camerafusion Ай бұрын

Gaston, I’m jealous! How you getting your hands on this gear before its available?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Lucky to had the opportunity to have it in my hands.

@heliopijpe Ай бұрын

If the image output is not sensational (color science, overall image beauty/balance, sharpness), 1600 euro's in todays market even for Leica is excessive (no fixed aperture), sensor / lens innovation, software innovation? Everyone and their cousins are going to purchase another Leica or the new Fuji ... the LX100II is half the price (and perfect for pro-sumers) ... You can have alot for 1600 euro's ... and for a little more you get alot more ...

@ACM9407 Ай бұрын

Spot on!

@therealsirrobin Ай бұрын

I've had the LX100 when it came out but the extending lens got a little annoying. I would have preferred a fixed lens and maybe an aps-c sensor but that is just me.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Apsc would’ve been awesome. But most likely that would’ve entail a larger body and heavier lens. The DLux 8 is truly pocketable.

@therealsirrobin Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters Look at the Leica X-U that is roughly the same size but had an aps-c sensor, a 23mm f/1.7 lens. But I guess that would cannibalize Q3 sales. :D

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

True !

@grjlynch Ай бұрын

From the specs, it’s a sheep in wolf’s clothing. As a Q3 owner, the Q3 ‘look and feel’ is attractive, but I am not sure it would convince me to upgrade from my D-Lux 7.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

The main difference is the look, sharper and brighter evf and new menus. Same camera internally but with full DNG option

@drbarnack1885 Ай бұрын

Does the zoom have the option for preset focal lengths, like on the V-Lux? So as an alternative to continuous zoom, going 28/35/50/70?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

It doesn’t. At least not mechanically. Or in this firmware version.

@drbarnack1885 Ай бұрын

I guess it makes sense, if they wanted to simplify the menu interface they can’t add every single option back in.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

True

@mawavoy Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters, does it show the zoomed focal length as you zoom?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Yes it does on the screen

@grjlynch Ай бұрын

Thanks for the quick look video. No image stablisation or APS-C sensor is a blow. I was hoping it draw level with the X100Vi. It is just a face lift then.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

But it’s smaller than the Fuji has a zoom and sharper lens across the range. Also. Cheaper. I will review images when I get home but from what I seen on the back of the camera and zooming in the images look really sharp.

@cameraz99 Ай бұрын

It has *optical* image stabilization ... just like the d-lux 7 before it.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Yeah. No IBIS

@jameshoward9700 Ай бұрын

Nice one the fly scoop! A win for Leica. A facelift, but with useful benefits over the 7. For sure, an attractive consumer proposition, or second casual camera for M or L shooters. Practical size, good battery life, enjoyable experience, zoom is handy on such a camera with M4/3 sensor. A shame there's no fun, creative jpeg modes for casual users. And no weather sealing, I think. But I'd rather this than the X100 (and I've got one!). I'd be most interested in your view of its wide aperture image quality and max zoom quality. Also, colour science...

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

I think it’s a great little camera check out some samples on my threads post www.threads.net/@gastonshutters/post/C7zD-Z1ib5S/?xmt=AQGzHFdYUGCOnlbGpPpNCBTkm_N8GSar8ds2cxfdA6kMUw

@henrytong8707 Ай бұрын

What's the difference between this and the LX100ii? It seems it still use the same sensor and lens.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Color science is more in line with Q3. Haven’t shot the LUMIX thought. Check these examples www.threads.net/@gastonshutters/post/C7zD-Z1ib5S/?xmt=AQGzkiI-kmkDYWF-fPqeRn_NS6IpPbfgyxl5CYS5UZ1k3w

@DesignedByWil Ай бұрын

nothing tested both. these cameras are the same one is just rebranded

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Even my iPhone can give me killer images these days with surprisingly awesome Raw multi exposure conputational wizardness

@dzeng Ай бұрын

Can you show us what the brightest aperture goes to when you zoom since it's a variable aperture lens? e.g. 24mm at 1.7 35mm at ? 50mm at ? 75 mm at 2.8 Thank you

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

It goes from f1.7 to f2.8 it changes gradually up to 63mm where it reaches f2.8 I believe. I’ll play more with it tomorrow

@ianforber Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters If it’s m4/3 I assume the apertures are roughly twice that of full frame, eg f1.7 is actually f2.8. I don’t have any problem with that - a constant aperture f2.8 lens on my Olympus EM5 Mk2 was great and gave me plenty of control over depth of field for subject separation. Or is the lens constructed such that the aperture of f1.7 really is a full frame equivalent of f1.7?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Awesome man

@petegleeson1 Күн бұрын

@@ianforberThis is true and not true, the aperture is the aperture, a separate light meter suggesting 1/60 at f1.7 will get correct exposure regardless of the camera being digital, analogue, full frame, medium format or 1 inch sensor, providing the ISO is constant. The way the lens represents the scene, such as depth of field will be different according to format but it is not true to say f1.7 on M43 is anything other than f1.7. The image may look compared to a 35mm sensor like a f3 as far as depth of field goes.

@ianforber Күн бұрын

@@petegleeson1 You’re right and expressed it as I had intended! It was the depth of field I was referring to.

@nik0wat Ай бұрын

Is the zoom only electronic or can you manually zoom?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Electronic

@janf85 Ай бұрын

Can you use the new leica looks like on the q3? Similar to the filmsims on Fuji. Thank you! 🙏

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Haven’t had a chance to test that and I’ll be reporting soon in my next review

@maheshg212 Ай бұрын

Image quality, how much is that better with DNG? Aperture range throughout the zoom, EVF in comparison with X100VI or similar.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Quality of DNG is amazing. DR has great recoverability in highlights and shadows. Optical Image quality same as D Lux 7. Good enough. Similar quality to Fuji X100VI at 35mm minus the depth of field of an apsc sensor. Small Primes will be better than small zoom in my opinion. But having the full range equivalent to 22-68mm in a camera slightly larger than the Ricoh GRIII is awesome

@mawavoy Ай бұрын

Yes, with respect to Leica developing small primes. That could make an awesome package.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

For sure !

@briandidrikson1131 Ай бұрын

Sorry if I missed this in your video, I watched the whole thing.... I swear! Does it have OIS??

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Yes. Watch the review

@BeingWolfy Ай бұрын

They need to make this camera body with an M43 lens mount. There would be nothing like it in the m43 market, and would sell like hot cakes. It would be what so many in the m43 community is looking for. This looks like a good camera still though.

@BeingWolfy Ай бұрын

This body with the m43 panasonic leica 15mm 1.7 lens would be a dream.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

I think I would defeat the purpose of being compact.

@mawavoy Ай бұрын

Yes, and with a backside illuminated sensor. That would improve low light performance. Leica has m4/3 lenses. Unfortunately, from my perspective Leica seems preoccupied with the hipster crowd. That crowd is fad/personal image conscious. A pancake lens for the hipsters and a range of longer focal lengths for wildlife or sports photographers that want to look hip when on vacation or shooting street photography for personal enjoyment.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

thanks for the feedback

@dau29245 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this quick hands-on! It would be great to see how much bokeh is possible with this camera at different distances and different zoom levels. Both bokeh in the front and in the background. Would love to see that in your test! Cheers!

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Check my Threads post. I published a few samples there. Full overview coming this weekend. www.threads.net/@gastonshutters/post/C7zD-Z1ib5S/?xmt=AQGzHFdYUGCOnlbGpPpNCBTkm_N8GSar8ds2cxfdA6kMUw

@dau29245 Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters Cool, thanks! I hope it will be possible to create bokeh in the background even if the focus object is a bit further away (like two to five meters). Btw, nice to see you in my home town ;-)

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

A very little.

@ElmarJournal Ай бұрын

Can you customize the exp comp dial?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Have not messed with it yet. But if it works like the Q you should be able to customize the right dial via menu or the push top button from it. I’ll take it for a full overview on Saturday again.

@grodard9 9 күн бұрын

Will the camera remember the zoom position after full power off or energy saving power off ?

@GastonShutters 9 күн бұрын

Don’t remember. I believe it defaults to 24mm

@Christophe5658 2 күн бұрын

I am french and I own the D-Lux 8 since july 2. The camera is what I expected and the quality and ergonomics are as good as described here and there. What strucks me is the TOTAL LACK of ergonomics relatively to the zoom. - No restauration of a saved zoom position when the camera is reactivated. - No display of the zoom position. To know the zoom position, you must activate the W/T button. But activating the button changes the zoom position 😵‍💫. - No possibility to choose a step-zoom (24-28-35-50… positions) - No possibility to parameter the middle lens ring as a zoom ring. I repeat… Leica has completely obliterated the zoom ergonomics. More than that, it has erased the zoom ergonomics that existed on the D-Lux 7. Who knows wy ???

@grodard9 2 күн бұрын

@@Christophe5658 En effet, ce qui est choquant c'est que la fonction existait déjà. Dommage. Ce qu'il y a de beau avec Leica c'est la simplicité et le plaisir d'utilisation, mais là c'est raté, du moins pour les photographes qui se sont familiarisés aux perspectives d'une ou deux lentilles et n'ont que faire de la distraction d'un zoom sans repères. Merci pour votre réponse détaillée et bien sentie !

@Christophe5658 2 күн бұрын

@@grodard9Merci pour votre réponse. Ne vous étonnez pas de me voir répéter le sujet sur d’autres fils autour du D-Lux 8 🤭 car il me semble que cette carence est centrale. Et certainement rattrapable par une mise à jour de firmware.

@user-rr6ix3eq4d Ай бұрын

No upgrade to the sensor feels like a missed opportunity. I feel Leica missed the boat on this one.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Apsc would been nice but probably make it bigger like the CL

@mipmipmipmipmip 29 күн бұрын

@@GastonShuttersjust a newer m43 sensor (with phase detect!) would have done a lot.

@GastonShutters 26 күн бұрын

Agreed

@IntrovertAmateur Ай бұрын

Cool to see you having the D Lux 8 already in your hands :) I’m curious if you have the opportunity to compare the image quality next to the D Lux 7 / LUMIX LX100 II. If I understand it correctly sensors are the same

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Image quality is better because now you work off a DNG. So I have to say vast improvement and the whole user interaction and looks are on point.

@IntrovertAmateur Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters interesting, didn’t know about the DNG fact Thanks man 👍

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Anytime

@f__e__e__l__e__e__p Ай бұрын

Was just about to say, doesn't look like Miami 😉😉

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Hehehehe

@jcarloshugo Ай бұрын

f you own a dlux-7, please do some side by side shots. thank you

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

I don’t unfortunately. But as far as hardware goes it may be the same.

@felixchong2002 Ай бұрын

Sea sick watching your video

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

I feel you.

@TheAmartinez34 Ай бұрын

Would love to know the color science compared to its bigger brothers...

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

More in like with Q at a first glance. I posted some images on thread. More to come in my review

@mohdfarizolabdulghani7208 Ай бұрын

Support Leica look in fotos?

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Good question for me to check in. Next time I get it. I borrowed it for a few minutes today. Will report everything on my next overview

@ChrisLRobinson Ай бұрын

IBIS would have set this off

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Most def

@rockysrider5352 Ай бұрын

this could replace my X Vario

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Yes 👍

@lelandfitz1762 Ай бұрын

It's said they basically made more of a facelift than a new camera. I'm dissapointed they did not built in a tilted screen like in teh Q3, that would have made the decision to buy this much easier.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Yeah the improvements are right on the money. A tilt screen would’ve been awesome

@umberto8383 Ай бұрын

È una Panasonic LX100ii!!! 😂😂😂

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Not really. It’s more in line with the experience of a Leica Q3 even the color and image quality is similar. Of course smaller sensor and different lens but the DR is impressive. Check out these examples I posted here www.threads.net/@gastonshutters/post/C7zD-Z1ib5S/?xmt=AQGzkiI-kmkDYWF-fPqeRn_NS6IpPbfgyxl5CYS5UZ1k3w

@abhinaybuiss Ай бұрын

At that price range, it's a difficult recommendation. If one can live without the EVF, the OM System Pen E-P7, which also comes with a tilt screen, costs less than half, is lens interchangeable and has an MFT sensor, better grip and light weight body.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

great camera as well but you need to buy the lens.

@abhinaybuiss Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters for around 650 euros, I got the camera and the 14-42mm lens from OM System (their online store), so not a bad deal.

@abhinaybuiss Ай бұрын

@@GastonShuttersfor around 621 euros, I got the camera and the 14-42mm lens from OM System (their online store), so not a bad deal.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

That’s a great deal.

@rogerdodger689 Ай бұрын

Leicasonic 😂

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

D lux 8

@chamade166 Ай бұрын

Same old old sensor as the old Panasonic brothers? Seems like a lot of money for that…

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Haven’t shot the Panasonic but sensor hasn’t changed. Perhaps the color science is more in line with newer Leicas.

@AboveInShadow Ай бұрын

The zoom feature is a big no for me. It should be a fixed prime lens with IBIS but that thing can't compete against the GX85.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

I actually like the fact that you can have all that range on such a small camera. Remember reframing at 16mp challenging. So zooming in will get you nice prints

@AboveInShadow Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters Nothing the GX85 or GX9 system cameras can't do. If you wan't a camera for A3 prints get at least an APSC sensor.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Yeah. I role with my M11 for my print work. Non negotiable. But the D Lux surprise me with its image quality.

@TN-kh9xn Ай бұрын

Images, please.

@GastonShutters Ай бұрын

Will make a proper video with images. I just had a few minutes with it and shared it with you here. I’ll post some images later one when I get home since I put my SD card in.