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Leica iiia (Model G) First Impressions | Days of Knight

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@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 2 жыл бұрын
My Leica IIIa is/was a family camera, equipped with a 50mm f/1.5->9 Taylor-Hobson Xenon lens. This uncoated, pre-World War II "speed lens" had bits of dirt inside and hazy lens elements. It was a couple of steps above a Holga, so I replaced it with a 1950's, coated, 50mm f/3.5 collapsible Elmar. This was a great improvement, producing sharp negatives and Kodachrome slides. (50mm f/2 Summars and Summitars were collector's items in the 1970's, so I opted for the "ordinary lens.") I yearned for an M-series Leica, but settled for a Canon P with a 50mm f/1.8 Canon lens. Not having to buy "a blue chip investment," I bought Leica screw mount lenses, instead (28mm f/2.8 Canon and 105mm f/2.5 Nikkor.)
@JimSollows
@JimSollows 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot a Leica M6 ... it's the most amazing camera I've owned in 40 years of photography. It's absolute magic in the hands!
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
If only :)
@throtol
@throtol Ай бұрын
I had purchased a Leica iiia a few months ago. It recently had a CLA and no holes in the shutter fabric. I must say that once you get over the learning curve associated with the film loading process, the camera is small, beautiful, and fun to use. I am using some 30-year Soviet Svema low ISO film. I live in a hot and sunny climate, so the low ISO works in my favor. I have received some positively unexpected results.
@GrainAndPixels
@GrainAndPixels 6 ай бұрын
The Barnack Leicas are neat little cameras, glad you were able to try one. I picked up a IIIf with a 50mm Summitar a few years ago and love it. I still love my Canon F-1 and T90 cameras, but the IIIf is so light, tiny, and inconspicuous.
@schonja4927
@schonja4927 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying the editing was ever bad, but holy - that shooting, developing and results montage was another level. Very pleasant and involving to watch! Glad you liked the Leica :D
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I've been making some changes to streamline and I'm glad it was noticed :)
@caldera878
@caldera878 3 жыл бұрын
Try the Canon LTM rangefinder cameras like the Canon P or Canon 7. They're so underappreciated and also currently undervalued cameras right now but they feel very close to a Leica.
@kontraen
@kontraen 3 жыл бұрын
And at least from the Canon L1 onward you can also set the shutterspeed before advancing the film ;)
@Morinaka25
@Morinaka25 3 жыл бұрын
When i was shooting a Zorki 1b, i found the image of that leica film lead cutter, traced it out, printed it and cut up some thick card stock to match, then just used it as a template on the film with a sharpie, then cut the film. It's easier than hunting down one of the originals. You could probably 3D print one as well.
@freidounzamani6791
@freidounzamani6791 3 жыл бұрын
When you bought an LTM camera from Leica you would get a template (Leica branded) to help you cut the end of the film correctly. It is a pair of hinged together plates correct outline cut off. you put the film between the plates and trimmed the edge. Mine is worn out and leica information is faded. One can copy if a picture on Ebay is consulted.
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I did back in the 1960's when I graduated from a Kodak Brownie Six-Twenty to the family Leica IIIa. I also copied the "Fuji/Sakura" short tongue in the 1970's, before this became the Kodak standard film loading tongue.;) I was a bulk film user in the 1960's, and discovered Ilford and ORWO film at Freestyle Sales Company.
@PiersLawsonBrown1972
@PiersLawsonBrown1972 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, many thanks. The film lead was something that got me with my first reel of film, all came out blank, only after did I find out you had to cut your own lead on a roll. If anyone is interested, there is a complete list of serial numbers for Leica's built up to 1965 so you can trace the year and batch number of manufacture, just search for Leica Serial Number list and it should be first one that comes up. Always nice to be able to date your collectables.
@erichartke4331
@erichartke4331 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got a iif which is basically the iiif without the slow speeds. I also got a Summitar and what a beautiful lens. Nice results.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats Eric!
@studiosnch
@studiosnch 2 жыл бұрын
The Barnack Leicas are really quite the experience. I use a IIIf Red Dial Self-timer with a Chiyoko Rokkor (basically Minolta) 45mm f2.8 lens alongside the so-called Japanese Summilux (Canon 50mm f1.4) and an Industar-61L/D 55mm f2.8. I also owned a IIf between 2014-16 together with a (first generation) Summicron 50mm f2. Out of all these tools, I got an amazing experience that helps me do my photography in a slowed-out way... looking through both RF and VF windows kind of makes the whole world slow down, and like you I prefer the spilt windows. Also the Barnacks are a conversation starter: non-photographers are amazed for its looks, photographers would be dazzled because it's a Leica, and Leicapeople would praise you for being true to the words of the one prophet Oskar Barnack.
@fricki1997
@fricki1997 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's nowhere near the mechanical quality of the original, but a Fed 3a became my favourite vintage 35mm film camera after testing out a few inexpensive ones recently. It was a very similarly shaped top plate, and I really enjoyed using a knob instead of a lever to advance the film and arm the shutter. My copy was a pleasure to use and shoot with, though I haven't handled a true Leica for comparison. It might be a very cheap way for film novices to try out the Leica/rangefinder style before committing a larger amount of money. The Fed cameras also regularly come with an Industar 61 55mm F/2.8 lens which has a very good reputation and can be directly used on a Leica body, as far as I know.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips Leon. I never could get on the fed bandwagon.
@fricki1997
@fricki1997 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzrielKnight Which ones have you tried so far? I've only had the Fed 3a and 5a, and while my 5a is arguably superior to my 3a, it can't match the latter's pleasant handling and feel in my subjective opinion.
@stuartcarden1371
@stuartcarden1371 3 жыл бұрын
@@fricki1997 I'm also a big fan of the FED 3a - A gem of Soviet era cameras!
@NarcissismSurvivor
@NarcissismSurvivor 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you review the Leica M4-2. So many put it off because it’s “A budget thus inferior” but I find it just as good or better than the M6 or MP.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Just a matter of getting a hold of one :)
@mvonwalter6927
@mvonwalter6927 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an original 1935 Leica iii last year because I had a Voigtlander 35mm screw mount lens that I used on a Fuji digital. I then got a soviet made Industar 50mm collapsible lens. This camera is so comfortable to wear with a simple leather strap. It such a dense little metal camera, and the strap lugs are perfectly centered that, with a small lens, it naturally hangs at the small of my waist when it's over my shoulder, barley noticeable. Just a perfect daily carry for that reason and it looks cool as hell. Not a fast operating camera by far though!
@sergeantcrow
@sergeantcrow 3 жыл бұрын
That smile in the thumbnail Azriel, leads me to think you are happy to have the Leica... Where's my Zorki ? : )
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
lol, it was a fun camera.
@mateuszmadej5094
@mateuszmadej5094 3 жыл бұрын
Please try Zorki 4 or Zorki 4K, especially with Jupiter 8 lens.
@fadisg
@fadisg 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable... I just searched KZfaq for the same camera just before less than 10 minutes. From this video :)
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Nice :)
@fadisg
@fadisg 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzrielKnight but wish the prices of those will not jumps up after your review :)
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 2 ай бұрын
Very nice video. RS. Canada
@klofisch
@klofisch 3 жыл бұрын
Advance first, then set the shutter....pretty standard on most Cameras from USSR. Well they should have that improved when they made Zorkis.... :D
@klofisch
@klofisch 3 жыл бұрын
Where have you been during the chemistry lessons :D? Water first then chems
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
not in class obviously :P
@stevenwagner7520
@stevenwagner7520 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Leica IIc and enjoy shooting it. With experience, trimming the film leader becomes second nature. I also have a Zorki 1 which handles 90% like the Leica. You should try a Zorki or a FED sometime as a comparison.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried the fed, not a fan. May try a zorki.
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 3 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing quite like the classic screwmount Leicas. THANK YOU for not doing like some of these KZfaq tutorials and loading the film by jamming your fingers through the open shutter to move the film around… so unnecessary. Trimming the leader is easy to eyeball and becomes second nature after a while!
@aag24
@aag24 3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful review. The prices keep on increasing to a ridiculous extent. I could afford a Leica M4-P with a Leica lens just a few years ago … now everything is really overpriced. So much for letting myself save money for an M6!
@jestintzi
@jestintzi 3 жыл бұрын
The Reveni meter actually has an adapter that works for these Barnack leicas to make it not cover up the shutter dial. It's a good pairing. I've got this same set-up, it's a lovely little camera, and the Summar lens has some really interesting character.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good to know!
@sverrearnes7769
@sverrearnes7769 3 жыл бұрын
My best Azriel, a little less of talking-head, more "show not tell" will make a miracle of your site.You have a very good voice.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@markuslarjomaa3122
@markuslarjomaa3122 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see you more or less simply followed the manufacturer's loading instructions. There are so many Barnack Leica people around that are too lazy to cut the leader but instead have come up with all sorts of weird and dangerous (for the camera) manoeuvres like unmounting the lens, setting shutter to B and guiding the film by hand trough the film gate to load their film. Absolutely unnecessary and possibly disastrous! I love my IIIf, with the collapsible 50mm Elmar for super-compactness or a Canon 50/1.8 when I need a faster lens. Yes, it has its quirks, but a) it still works just fine, for me b) it's such a compact carry. Yes, I do prefer shooting with M Leicas, but in the end, the IIIf fits in even the smallest bag or my jacket pocket and gets carried everywhere I go. Some prefer the Barnack Leica style Canons... some say get a later Canon (L1, VL, P, 7s...) but they are actually bigger than Leica M bodies, so in my book the tiny screw mount Leicas win every time. Having said that, I haven't tried those older Canons myself... but I don't need to, I alreade have the IIIf and it's just perfect for me and its intended use :)
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all that input. Hey I was curious the difference between the f and the a.
@markuslarjomaa3122
@markuslarjomaa3122 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzrielKnight Difference between IIIa and IIIf? The rangefinder diopter lever is around the eyepiece on the a, around the rewind knob the f. The two rangefinder and viewfinder windows are further apart on the a but within the same eyepiece in the f. And the f body is slightly bigger but also more rigid. Those are the main differences as far as I remember. Never handled any other model than my IIIf, though, so all this info is just what I’ve read from CameraQuest, Ken Rockwell etc.
@as616
@as616 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great review. I bought a Leica III for my first Leica. It is a little mechanical marvel. That said, I do grab my M5 much more often.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I would too if I have an M5 :P
@enLARGE.darkroom
@enLARGE.darkroom 3 жыл бұрын
I traded my M5 for a lllg, no regrets
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 3 жыл бұрын
I had the similar 1953 Canon iv-f at one point. It was soooo heavy!😂 In the end I couldn’t stand using the thing and resold it.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a fed5v..same thing, too heavy.
@oxentielreadman
@oxentielreadman 3 жыл бұрын
Besides of the Nikon S2, on the rangefinders you already tried a Kiev 4 and a FED 5v, if you looking for a leica like rangefiders the Zorki 4k, the FED 2 and the Canon 7 are the most similar.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know, thank you :)
@batworker
@batworker 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know about the Leica, but the FED4 becomes unhappy if you set the speed before advancing...
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@davidweiss7411
@davidweiss7411 3 жыл бұрын
These are truly strange cameras as there are plenty of negatives that everyone discusses but everyone then proceeds to ignore as it is a Leica. They are expensive, small viewfinders, odd need to trim the leader, expensive accessories, Summar lens has lots of "character" etc. but it is a Leica. I would say everyone should use one once to get a sense of history and it does have a nice, smooth workmanship feel to it but at least for me, I can think of other rangefinders that I would rather use that are more capable and less expensive. But it looks good. Now you can get better lenses and that helps to justify having one. Just an opinion.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. They’re pretty awful cameras. If it wasn’t a Leica nobody would want one.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input!
@copperdomination
@copperdomination 3 жыл бұрын
It's a bit cumbersome to load and shoot. Rewinding is slow. But my Leica iiif was built before me and will easily outlast me. It's a true joy to use a product that you can always count on. And that shutter sound? Music to my ears! Nothing like it.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I may try a iiif at some point :)
@massmike11
@massmike11 3 жыл бұрын
I have a canon a35f that i really enjoy
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@tedphillips2951
@tedphillips2951 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Leica IIIF & agree that it is still a bargain. Being all mechanical it can still be serviced today & last a lifetime. I have a 50mm 1.8 canon lens on it & it is a very good lens & way easier to use than a collapsible lens.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Ted :)
@markuslarjomaa3122
@markuslarjomaa3122 3 жыл бұрын
Canon 50/1.8 for the win! :)
@Shanesshiit
@Shanesshiit 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Canon version of this camera. It adds the extra feature of a single viewfinder, with perspective adjustments for different focal lengths, otherwise mostly the same. I love the build and style, but im not sure I will ever get a good photo with it.. Alot of effort to use!
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Tough to use but I feel like I'm holding a piece of history!
@Shanesshiit
@Shanesshiit 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzrielKnight and a quality machine for sure!
@christopherwelch5568
@christopherwelch5568 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Azriel. Does it make you appreciate Henri Cartier-Bresson more, who made a career with one of those?
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 2 жыл бұрын
lol, for sure.
@mahon872
@mahon872 Жыл бұрын
7:50 - "It is effortless to get one for less than $600 with the lens, and for the life of me I can't figure out why" When I stumbled across these little gems very recently, neither could I. I really think it's only a matter of time until they become more sought after - their sleeper status won't last. The LTM lens ecosystem is absurdly diverse and many 3rd party lenses are very sharp and pretty cheap, you can use any old 135mm reel, the Leica II and IIIs have direct connection to the genius of Oscar Barnack, and are usable pieces of history as capable today as they were when first made. These cameras are responsible for some of the most powerful images of the 20th century - e.g. 'Raising a Flag over the Reichstag'. They also make you really take your time, and really think about your shots - like Ansel Adams said - "You don't take a photograph, you make it" My IIIa is 89 years old - I can't wait to shoot a reel on it's 90th birthday.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight Жыл бұрын
This comment had me curious if the price had gone up and yep, it has. I guess I missed my window.
@monkeysausage2404
@monkeysausage2404 3 жыл бұрын
You could also go with the old Soviet cameras. Zorki and FED they are clone of this and have the same shutter speed dial/film advance issue. Beauty of the Soviet one is that they are so cheap if you bust it well it's no big deal. If you want a Zorki 4 I have one you can have. It's way easier to load film.
@fricki1997
@fricki1997 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I got a FED 3a this week. It's probably not nearly as finely crafted as a "true" Leica, but still I prefer it over my other analogue cameras. There's just something so satisfying about turning the film advance knob (instead of a lever!), and hearing the cloth shutter actuate. Slower speeds have sticky shutter issues on mine, and yet it's my favourite.
@monkeysausage2404
@monkeysausage2404 3 жыл бұрын
@@fricki1997 That'll be that infamous greases the Soviets used to grease everything from a camera to a tank. 😆
@fricki1997
@fricki1997 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeysausage2404 Might be. I came across a batch of three Industar-61 lenses for a decent price, greased two to sell on, and kept one for myself. The grease inside had turned into a very hard, chalky yellow mess. I'll just work the shutter a bit and hope it softens up, I'm not ready yet to open this one up without a proper disassembly guide.
@IainHC1
@IainHC1 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Leica 111f's and love em both :-) I just need to take them out more :-)
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
You should!
@filmk
@filmk 3 жыл бұрын
Another range finder very cheap is the canon 7 and that one has also the L39 mount
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know, thank you :)
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 2 жыл бұрын
The Canon P used to be much cheaper and "common as chewing gum" at eBay. ("Light meter"? Use your Sekonic L-28c or SmartPhone Light Meter App.)
@redstonecircuitoffunmc913
@redstonecircuitoffunmc913 Жыл бұрын
Where can I buy this?
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight Жыл бұрын
eBay
@thedondeluxe6941
@thedondeluxe6941 3 жыл бұрын
I really want one of those :-) And I already have an M6!
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
lol, gimmi the M6 and you got a deal :P
@barbaralombroso4422
@barbaralombroso4422 3 жыл бұрын
$600 CANADIAN? Everywhere I look it's upwards of 900-1k+
@CalumetVideo
@CalumetVideo Жыл бұрын
I would not recommend a Leica Barnack. I don’t think it even puts one in the Leica group. Unless one has a M model. I don’t have a Leica. I used a Leica IIIf, they are a pain to load film and you have to use two viewfinders to focus and compose. My feelings are, if you want a Leica go for a Leica M model.
@NandR
@NandR 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Leica IIIf from facebook marketplace for $200. Works fine, especially for a 70 year old camera. Rangefinder patch is faded but it works enough. Just hard to load haha.
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
lol, sounds about right.
@mirrorboxer
@mirrorboxer 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never shot a Leica but I bought a Canonet QL17 GIII for under $200 since some compared it to a Leica, and it is amazing. I suspect you might really enjoy the experience
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 3 жыл бұрын
Who compared a canonet to a leica?!?😂
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I love that camera, wish I hadn't sold it.
@harrycover9180
@harrycover9180 3 жыл бұрын
And now you should get an M3
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
My mouth says yes, my wallet says no.
@harrycover9180
@harrycover9180 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzrielKnight I know, but something is special about the M3, sort of mechanical perfection and incredible satisfaction when shooting. Prefer a double stoke.
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 2 жыл бұрын
M-series Leicas, like Hasselblad, have always been my "Unobtanium." The Canon P and the Bronica ETR were good substitutes.
@Socrates...
@Socrates... 3 жыл бұрын
Please try get a Contax ii to review
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
okay :)
@albertoamatucci6167
@albertoamatucci6167 3 жыл бұрын
not exactly related but… I destroyed a Kiev 4 because I changed speed before advancing the frame. A true brain fart!
@AzrielKnight
@AzrielKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Oh noooooo!
@flaviofasano2604
@flaviofasano2604 3 жыл бұрын
Hello,great video. I have a Leica IIIA with Summar 50mm. I sell it if someone is interested. Bye
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