Hi, I'm from Malaysia, a proud owner of this beautiful machine. This is my best investment so far. Will be using this for ages. Looking forward for your flow profile videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Hi, you r right its the best home espresso, best value for money, no other manufacturer can match with Bianca for the moment. Exelent video !!

Decent Espresso DE1+ is my choice

@@dimitrios2481 but it's a bit more expensive, so it's not in the same price range...

Dimitrios dream on

it's just beautiful to look at too.

Great response! Thank you.

Any update?

No argument, the Lucca M58 is a beautiful piece of work but just to make sure there's no confusion... the Bianca also comes with a 3 year parts and labor warranty.

how it is after 1 yr?

Excellent point Benny. What smart plug are you using?

@@JSPRE someone mentioned P Link Kasa wifi power plug

Does anyone know if the European model has the same on-off switch as North American, so it can be used with a smart plug. My Gaggia Classic Pro has spring on-off switch due to EU regulations so I had to change it in order to use smart plug. I believe in Bianca's case that is not an issue due to stand by function.

What did you choose finally? I’m in the same situation right now and including the Profitec 600 with the flow control.

@@alfonsitohouse Bianca and I’m very happy. No complaints at all. I also got a Eureka XL grinder, also a good choice.

Yo how you liking it?

@@LastAphelion honestly, It's expensive, but so worth it imo, I love it, it's just a bonus that it's beautiful:)

Great question. The short answer is no. As the Bianca is still not cheep. But Lelit is a newer brand in espresso and while they’re making quality machines, you’re saving on the name of the brand. Now not to say they don’t design differently than other manufactures like ECM and Profitec. Their sheet metal could be argued to be thinner.

Hey Jasmin! Absolutely! To quickly summarize, the LM is a fantastic machine, but you’re paying for the name and a few commercial features. For home use, the Linea mini isn’t necessary but rather a nice luxury. That being said the Bianca is a fantastic machine for the price. It will pull a shot of the same quality to the Linea, but with the possibilities of flow profiling. This feature alone is worth going with the Bianca, in my opinion. Either would be fantastic for the home barista.

@@KyleRowsell Thanks for the quick response. Great information. I definitely don’t won’t to over pay just because of the name. I want productivity for what I’m paying for. Thanks for saving me the extra cash! Keep up the great work!

@@JSPRE which did u choose..i have never made espresso i am a complete beginner but im getting interested..which should i choose and do u have any advice on how to learn properly to use..tx

@@execatty I have decided to stick with my LUCCA for now. It is a great machine, does what I need and does it well. My advise to you would be to decide on two things and stick with them. 1) A budget. Very important. Don’t forget any “coffee tools” you may be considering as well. 2) Buy the machine that fits Your needs, not someone else’s preferences. 3) If the machine you want is out of your budget, save money to get the machine you want. 4) Be sure of what you want from your machine and look at machines with those features. Hope this helps, if you want specifics on anything, including the coffee tools I use, my grinders, buyers remorse or anything else, I would be glad to help.

@@JSPRE I can afford anything reasonable.. Would love Linea mini.. But 5k little toomuch in principle.. Looked at lelita Bianca also.. 👍 But I and at least for now just looking to make for my girl and I.. Wanted niche zero grinder but they're sold out.. Keep the advice coming.. TX

Hey Jeff! Been working on one for a while. Trying to ensure the best recipes possible before I drop it.

@@KyleRowsell I would be interested in that as well!

Hey brother! I don’t believe I mentioned that standby was exclusive to Bianca, but the flow control doesn’t come standard on those other models. Once added they can cost up to 1k more than the Bianca. So to my point, the Bianca is the best value in this category.

HA, isnt that the truth!

I just ordered one with the eureka because the niche wasn’t available anymore now hope i get it in 2-3 days ☺️☺️

Hi! The apartemento is in a different price class than the Bianca. The rocket is a heat exchanger and the Bianca is a dual boiler. The Bianca is a better equipped machine but costs significantly more.

I would definitely take the Mara x instead of the appartamento.

This would only work on a single-boiler machine, though.

I’ve owned incredible machines like ECM, and while lelit may not have the complete build quality of one of those machine... they are built to last. You shouldn’t have any worries.

That’s a tough decision for sure. I feel ya.

Recently upgraded from a PID'd GC to a DE1, and couldn't be happier. If you're mostly an espresso drinker, and really want to play around with extraction profiles no other machine is capable of (to my knowledge), I'd seriously consider a decent. Though the steam is no slouch either.

I clean mine once a month. Descale isn’t recommended if using proper water like Third wave water or proper filtration. But if you must, take it to a proper dealer or technician.

@@KyleRowsell what does your cleaning process involve? Also, why not descale? Would love this machine, and wanting to upgrade soon, but not sure I could manage to install a water filtration system too. Soft water in my area and haven't had any problems with either of my DeLonghi Magnifica that I had for 6 years and my Barista Express that I've had for 2. I know that they are totally different and only appliance grade machines. Wouldn't want to go to a dealer to clean. Maybe I shouldn't get a dual boiler?

well there are a few different rocket models. I think Lelit has an advantage on the rocket machines in almost every category. Rocket was made well known from retailers like Seattle coffee gear but there are better machines for the money.

@@KyleRowsell thanks! I was just wondering why people would not want more this one, as to me it seems like an amazing machine. Do you offer online class? You are so good at explaining thing, I would definitely subscribe to classes and learn when I will get my machine

rocket is a much older brand, therefore more well-known. but i have tried both machines, and i don't see the rocket having any advantage, it's louder and more "crude" looking. however the steam does seem to be stronger. that's it

Had the same question!

It's a really great addition

That’s pretty incredible!

@@KyleRowsell I didn’t do it for my current machine, I did it for a Ranciilio Silvia. PID modded it and added the appliance module. Wrote the scene for the geofencing . I have multiple geofences, so when I get to the driveway it unlocks the doors and turns on lighting depending on time of day. I have a Rocket Giotto Cronometro R. For me it came down to height and wattage. I will add a profitec pressure profiling control soon. Plumbing it in wasn’t the cheapest...

Have the same question

Smart plugs are great!

It does seem like a sales pitch, but after reading only positive things about the machine. I’m sure he’s just good at what he does and genuinely loves his machine

To my eye, he was natural. Obviously you haven’t tried it. It’s funny how when you’re in front of a camera ppl can stiffen up and not act normally. Some folks take classes for years to get it (actors for instance). Kyle I thought you were natural. I assumed that was the way you always were when you were excited sharing something that you also liked. Don’t change a thing. You’re great!

I stand by my statement! Taking it’s price and features into consideration I don’t think that any of those machines are a better HOME machine. Not saying there aren’t better machines out there

You would just have to put in that nuance, as price indeed is an issue. That could make your claim more on point 😊.

I haven’t experienced this! Mine catches fine.

@@KyleRowsell that's good to know. Thanks. I live in New Zealand and have been waiting for the Profitec Pro 600 to come into the country. This caught my eye and has now become a serious contender for my hard earned dollars. Love your videos and positivity. All the best Kyle.

These e61s are a completely manual valve design Lelit does programmable pre-infusion in its VIP range, where flow valves are electric solenoid operated.

The new R58 has newer tech. Maybe we will see this with the bianca in the future?

@@KyleRowsell I'm really close to just getting the ECM Synchronika with flow control.

At that cost, I‘d rather buy a GS3 ...

@@johannesegger5428 Hahaha, true! The thing is that Dalla Corte Mina is an expensive machine for anyone that can buy it. Of course, at that price point I can go to another option, but is an example of how big this market is! 😂😂😂😂

Hey! My issue with the drip tray isn’t size but build quality. It uses thin stainless steel, and the grate isn’t as thoughtful in design compared to machines like the Profitec pro 700 or ECM Synchronika. It lacks the finish quality of those machines.

@@KyleRowsell I see, does it feel like it’ll bend anytime soon? Planning on buying this machine and I wouldn’t want my drip tray showing dents or the like within a year or so haha

I can assure you it will not bend. It’s still very high quality metal. The drip tray alone is not a reason to avoid the Bianca, it’s still better than many other machines that use plastic or cheep metal. I’m simply sharing my small critiques of the machine.

Would this be as good quality as Rocket? The specs and features Lelit provides at this price point is almost too good to be true.

@@44Bigs I don’t have one but have been looking into a machine for months and the Bianca seems to be the one to get. Seems to be as good quality with way better features and better included accessories(bottomless portafilter)

@@44Bigs from what I have heard the quality is right up there, this is another Italian crafted espresso machine and Lelit have a good reputation

@@The_Kev it is definitely a very complete machine, with the included accessories, digital (rotary!) pump control and of course the flow control valve. But how can they make a dual boiler machine with all that at a price point only slightly above HX machines like a Rocket Giotto Evo or Bezzera Mitica Top? I'd expect some corners to be cut somewhere, but based on what I've read the machine does indeed look solid and reliable. Impressive.

@@44Bigs Rocket is a better known brand so they can get away with charging more for their product bc of their name. The actual cost of making the machine is probably about the same if not more for the Bianca bc of the added features. Lelit is a newer brand without the pedigree so they must charge less to compete until their brand gets noticed.

Hey! I don't believe I said these features were exclusive to the Bianca? But features present on this machine. I could be wrong.

Almost

Yep... love the Linea Mini but the Bianca won me over. Why? The paddle looking device on a La Marzocco Linea Mini is actually nothing more than the on /off switch for the pump. You have to move up to the to La Marzocco GS/3 (at almost 3 times the price of the Bianca) to get flow control. If you shopped around over the last year or so you'll see almost all major producers of machines e.g., ECM, Profitec, Rocket etc... now offer their machines with a flow control device or kit so you can retrofit one of their older models. Although these machines are now offered with flow control, the control is nothing more than an aftermarket add-on made available by the manufacturers so they can compete with the latest trend of flow control, whereas the Leit Binca (like the Slayer and GS/3) were designed and calibrated from the ground up as a true flow control machines. Granted, the Slayer and the GS/3 launched flow control, which is the latest and greatest advancement in espresso machine design... but their price is a little steep for the average home consumer. To really appreciate the advantage of flow control, check out this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9J7h5SmkpnQd4k.html

For twice the price of the Bianca, it’s hard to justify

@@eltonnoway7864 not correct! E61 can easily be fit with flow control. All of them! Please don’t compare it to slyer witch have a needle valve nothing like the flow restriction on the E61. Also the Lelit it’s not with a saturated group head... Please be real it’s not like them but it is a vary good machine for the price.

@@kadrav I was only attempting to help the OP with their Bianca vs Linea Mini dilemma. I never said the E61 couldn't be fitted with flow control in fact I said many manufacturers "now offer their machines with a flow control device "or kit" so you can retrofit one of their older models." That said you are 100% correct I failed to identify the Linea Mini has a saturated group head whereas the Leit does not. That said, while saturated groupheads have superior temperature stability they are also slightly more sensitive to overshoots, albeit a much smaller offset than an E61 group. The E61 group has a very large thermal mass which makes it less efficient and more prone to undershoot. Either way plenty of espresso experts have agreeded they can't taste a difference between the two. So its still tough hard to justify an additional $2500 for the Linea Mini over the Lelit except for the fact the Linea Mini is built like a tank and will work for decades whereas the Lelit is a lightweight with a still unknown life expectancy.

The MaraX is beautiful! Maybe get the Mara and if not what you hoped (which I. Sure it will be) upgrade in a few years when you budget for it?

@@KyleRowsell i got the lelit bianca

@@danielwolman Congrats!

@@KyleRowsell thanks! any new user tips? Its a big step up from my silvia

@@danielwolman yeah! I’ve got a 5 tips for espresso video where I’m brewing on the Bianca. But my advice would be to avoid the flow control until you’ve dialled in your espresso.

I have! Almost bought the Linea, but purchased this machine instead.

Yep... a good friend of mine has the Linea Mini and I was really lusting after it... but after comparing feature for feature as well as overall cost savings between the two the Bianca won out. I wondered at first if I made the right call... but now that I've had the Bianca for 6 months I'm happy to report I definitely made the right decision.

@@KyleRowsell you can come play around with the GS3 MP anytime you like 🙃

@@SarpSD we need to make that happen.

@@SarpSD GS3 is a class of its own. Also 4 times the cost.

I hear you! And I’ve been there. A good Bottomless can be hard to find.

That’s a GREAT machine.

You're not wrong!

Yes it should be fine

It’s built for 20 amps

Depends on what it’s being used for! But I would agree the decent has some better features. But I wouldn’t say it’s a better machine. Especially not for the average user. 😊

Aha I see what you did there

What grinder are you using? Are you using a scale?

@@The_Kev lmaooo I’m using the specialtia and yes I use a scale I don’t just grind beans like a mad man and eyeball it!

Hey Kevin! That’s because they are both E61 group head machines.

Double tap to fast forward 😉

And how much better is the espresso going to be? 🤔

@@KyleRowsell Italian Coffee Shop Grade.

@@ThePathbauer and the hand built Italian lelit Bianca won’t be? What makes those machines better?

Zero, as it’s not a commercial and it’s a review of my personal unit that I’ve owned for a year.

I was thinking the same thing. Hard to know he wasn’t compensated for this. It was really over the top and you can tell he was reading from something....🤔

@@davidd9045 you for real? Haha. KZfaq has a policy to disclose when you’re paid for something. I’m a small KZfaq and had 700 subs at the time of recording. Relaaaax 😂

@@KyleRowsell just saying it’s the impression you give off. Maybe listen to others perspective so you can get more subs instead of laughing at them 🧐

@@davidd9045 I would never laugh at others! I just don’t appreciate being accused as a very small KZfaqr of being payed for a review. It takes tireless work to create videos. Kindness goes a long way ☺️

Hah why’s that?

@@KyleRowsell Because I got the Lelit! And I got a sette 270wi too. I expect it to be the last espresso machine I ever need. I used your link too so I hope clive has a good affiliate program.

@@A.C.Lawrence ah, that’s amazing. And thanks friend. Much appreciated

In fact I don’t. I just enjoy their products. It’s law that I would disclose such information or partnership. And I’m not even sure they’ve watched this video. But thanks for watching.