Lemmino even adds Voice acting, he has people to pay. They're full on documentaries and i bet there is people helping him investigating He makes his own soundtrack It's a full production, reaction streamers steal.

The fact that there’s AI reactions that are on par with other reactions, Shows that anyone who only just reacts to videos, shows..etc. is a literal npc.

There’s no way Lemmino hit mainstream drama 😭😭😭

I just find it hilariously ironic that Hassan a guy who is a big socialist advocate. Who criticizes capitalism on how it exploits people's labor for profit actually steals content that took maybe weeks or months for that KZfaqr to produce and profit off of them.

it’s crazy to see lemmino in drama. lemmino posts 3 times a year and it’s always massive bangers

Lemmino should have copyright struck them both, they objectively re uploaded his video for their own gain and everybody would have sided with him. I'm pretty disappointed this isn't what he actually did, because he absolutely would have won.

great to see real content creators win sometimes

Nice to see Hasan and Vaush take more L's

Lemmino is such a goat

Incredible to see how far Lemmino has come over all the years I’ve been watching him, from his Top 10 videos to his extremely intriguing almost documentary esque videos..

You say twitch steamers I say parasites

Lemmino is such a respectable youtube channel. There’s no way they are getting away from this just like that

I remember just recently, Meatcanyon made an animation of XQC, then XQC did a "react" video to it, then Meatcanyon did a react video of the react video, wherein he barely says anything and just watches XD

Overconsumption has done this to us. Kudos to those who create more than they consume daily. Being a personality is cool but being able to create will always be more valuable than being able to respond. Everyone has an opinion but everyone doesn't have the ability to express that opinion well. Be careful what you consume.

Glad to see Lemmino is getting more recognition. I've been watching the guy since his Rage Comics stuff. Nostalgic times, I could talk about it for a while.

Who remembers when streamers tried arguing that streaming was harder than KZfaq🤣

It felt like yesterday I knew Lemmino for rage comics, now here he is absolutely dunking on a streaming issue and in the headlights of Optimus!

Your support for veterans is really amazing! Since September was a mental health month, we can't forget about those who suffer from PTSD's. From my exp; to anyone who's ever been a victim of bullying / hate / violence because of their appearance, gender, orientation, race : DO NOT ever let a hateful notion 'there's something wrong with me' sink in. Trust me, it's a recipe for self hatred and compulsive anxieties later on. When we suffer and we need a break, it's only natural to think: maybe if I wasn't 'different', if I was 'normal' I would be accepted. No, haters will always find something else to prey upon. I've always had kinda androgynous look, which was a fuel for bullies when I was growing up. I embraced it, used it to my advantage in my acting / modeling career, I was almost the face of Leon in these new Resident Evil games :)

The thing is streamers will just ignore it, or say they don't care. And their fans are too braindead to care also. So in the end unless people start copyrighting them nothing will change.

Lemmino has been a great creator for a long time. Once the mainstream discovered him then the vultures came

It's insane to me how lemmino went from 4 mil to 5 mil with just 4 videos, a testament to the quality of the videos he makes

The exposure argument. Remember when that argument was used to defend reacting to Pewdiepie back in 2015?

Hasan is the worst offender because not only is he guilty of everything mentioned here such as having his chair react to content he has blatantly took, but he will sit there reacting more to his chicken nuggies than the video, however he goes one step beyond by putting the video he is “reacting” to full screen which obscures the name of content and the content creators channel, he will skip the sponsored adverts and run his own sponsored ad reels over them, and just as the video he is watching is nearing its end he will intentionally cut it off so the content creator cannot self promote their channel and Hasan doesn’t even shout the person whose content he just watched out to promote them. Unfortunately twitch allows this practice as it’s off KZfaq site. 🤷🏻

Man I feel like I'm hearing about content being stolen online no matter where I look.

Opti you should talk about this crazy lawsuit of a 16 year old suing her school for years of ignoring her bullying complaints and tragically lost her emotional support horse during this, its just too wild and crazy how stuff like this can happen

Lemmino being the subject of drama is something id never thought id witness

I feel bad honestly I love lemminos content he makes history so much more fun and he shows it in the best way possible

One of the best reaction channels I’ve seen react to Lemmino’s channel is VTH. Dude is constantly commentating and adding awesome context to the topic. Clearly he cares about the topic and wants to contribute.

You're literally the only person who says his name right (even though it's SAID at the beginning of every video. Salute!

Only streamer I've seen actually react to the content they watch is Asmongold. He'll pause the video and talk about it.

You forgot to mention one of the other excuses they make is that the streamer is help promoting and it helps increase their views One of Hasan’s fans said that, but the problem is that this was already pointed out before and his reaction barely helped, and the only reason why Lemino had those views is because he’s popular, and then you also have someone like XQC with a big audience, so you could say Hasan got help from XQC to boost more views for the video

React content is lazy, can't wait until these "creators" are forced to make their own stuff lol

Lemmino's videos are so well done, it takes close to a year to make it. All of the videos are amazing. Reaction streamers are unequivocally stealing.

Let Lemmino cooking on these reactors.

9:30 Tell that to Asmongold. Dude can make a reaction to a 7 minute video go on for 4 hours.

I think that youtube should add a feature that streamers can watch youtube videos and then have each of their viewers counted as a view on the original video. viewers could also directly like and sub to the creator too. This would be a win win as the creator gets exposure while also profits from the views

DarkviperAU has entered the chat

I think the way jschlatt went about his reaction for vghs was the way to do it if you want to do a reaction he reached out to the creators and even had them on stream while he was watching got some interesting behind the scenes info

Ah yes, the old XqC and Moist Method. It would be too easy to make it a companion stream, forcing the stream viewers to also visit the channel to watch the video at the same time, but nah. Too much work

one of the goats of yt does nothing but talk facts, documentary or not

LEMMiNO common W

Thank you for calling this out. These people should turn the stream off or make better reactions

they need to do a royalty acquisition agreement for reaction content. unless people are using the content for full talk points like asmon which even then should maybe be placed into a royalty acquisition.

5:30 just unlocked a memory from 2019. The first time I saw endgame was on KZfaq. It was uploaded with just a few small changes and I think it might still be up.

I never heard of Lemmino until the drama and checking out his book depository video was fascinating with the amount of effort put into it as someone who enjoys documentary style videos depending on the subject matter. I got a kick out of imagining these streamers with low attention spans trying to sit through an educational video like and shocker, they couldn't because they really could care less.

idk but my heart dropped when the pikmin got stuck with the bomb in the other side of the door

Maybe... just maybe.. we should have let the Fine Brothers at REACT entertainment license and own all the reaction content so it would have DIED back in 2016...

"reactions" being pretty much the same thing as stealing is an old problem. iCucccz, back when he was still kinda cool and based, called out Jinx and The Fine Bros in the Content Cop series, and them being pretty much stand-ins for other such channels, then last year, DarKViperAU went on bit of a campaign against reactions channels and streamers. I don't get it, this isn't anything new, actual creators should've done something already, but it seems literally nothing changes and people keep acting as if it's some new phenomenon

I will never forget watching an XQC reaction and seeing him start the video, LEAVE the room for the first 1/3 of the video, comes back, downs a whole Gyro and coke, and when the video ends says, "okay that was cool chat"

Video starts at 7:19

Lemmino’s contents are top tier! The videography is superb and storytelling is as good as MrBallen. So for the other “mainstream” creators to just sit down and stream his content for the sake of “reaction” is utterly disgusting. The guy is doing a top notch work for each of his videos. These other creators should just focus on their own contents and make it as pleasing as Lemmino’s.

any day hasan gets clowned on is a good day

The problem isn’t that they are no reacting enough it’s that they are leeching off of other content creators. No amount of pausing the video for “commentary” is going to un steal that video

That sucks. His videos take so much time and effort and you can tell. I love his content

'Game- Pikmin 2' was this done specifically to get a reaction out of nerds like me?

Anyone else remember when Lemmino was "Top Ten Memes"?

I wonder how many youtubers have used this format of talking about past or current dramas with some random gameplay in the background and what changes would we see if it was instead, a background video of puppies playing or something.

Good ol' Lemmino. Every since he covered memes, you could tell there was talent.

I respect lemmino for stating his stance on this drama. Streamers has been abusing the use of his content for far too long.

What I hate especially is when they're like "Im going to the restroom, let me play a video for you to watch".

The fact these streamers make so much money but don't actually do their job is disgusting, while people who have jobs that are dangerous, laborious, and vital to our world can barely get by.

"I'm not a content creator dude I'm a streamer, I'm a content stealer." - XqCOW, 2019.

Unrelated to the topic but I love seeing Pikmin as the gameplay. Awesome series fr

There are no words in any known language that can communicate the amount of sheer joy this news has brought me.

7:09 - he starts talking about the subject matter.

Streamers are the jesters of society. I wish that they knew how everyone views them . Nobody cares about your hardships and problems. I wish streamers didn't trauma dump everything on their viewers' shoulders .

The only reaction contents that are actually good is that when an expert breaks down certain things in something they're reacting to, that would kinda change the way you see those things, either in a good way or a bad way. Like that one old samurai in WIRED mentioning several stances when reacting to some sword fight scenes in some movies. Also, as Lemmino already mentioned, not using the entire vid/film/episode in their reaction vids.

That's the main problem with most streamers these days, half of them give a exaggerated reaction for the sake of gaining views or they just stare at their monitor not saying anything until the very end of the video they were watching, the people who react to Smash Bros related content is a good example of this. People who do this type of thing should just make better reactions in general instead of going to the bathroom or eating a big mac from McDonalds.

I don't really have a problem with react channels... but when you claim to be a react channel and yet you keep the same face throughout your reaction and only say the same 3 responses, then you're not reacting. I also have a problem when people don't acknowledge the person they're reacting to, especially when they don't put the link to their video in the description

I propose a way reaction streaming/videos could be supported on youtube/twitch or whatever platform. Streamer gets video link to react to > streamer puts link into some sort of field on his side of the stream settings, twitch acknowledges link, adds whatever amount of viewers the streamer has to the video, then it could also be cooperated by KZfaq themselves, if the streamer during the videoplayback gets any Ads, this could potentially be acknowledged by youtube and basically multiply ad view by amount of viewers and add it to the video creator, he gets ton of view and ad revenue, content streamer gets his reactions, viewers get added to both streamer and youtuber content, and everyone is happy.

DarkViperAU moment

Reaction streamers now know not to mess with JustLemmino

I just think it’s scummy for these big streamers to take the hard work of KZfaqrs and make money off it while the KZfaqrs get little in return most of the time. They’re the biggest content creators on the platform yet they can’t make their own content

I kinda agree, some streamers barely react and its a bit weird then. On the other side some are very reactive and engaging, Asmongold for example generally talks for more time then the video lenght hes reacting too. Not all the time (sometimes you dont have much to say i guess?) but most of the time. I also like when they promote the video creator, makes it feel a bit more of a win/win.

One of the moments about react people I'll never forget is. Pewds saying he doesn't understand it and then later on what does he do...react.

Pikmin gameplay just hits different ngl. I still have the small Disc for the Game cube.

Lemmino being in drama was NOT on my 2023 checklist

Bro is just letting his red pikmin die. The poor little guys.

My favorite genre of video is actually reaction videos... by professionals. Like nuclear chemist reacts to making uranium glass, etc. They always have something to add and it scratches the itch of early 2000's infotainment.

I love lemmino. Dude puts a ton of work into his videos

I use to watch Lemmino back when his channel name was Top 10 Memes

0:34 i feel like he said 😂😂😂 large "content creators "

The fact that people watch a person sit in their room and do nothing all day confuses me

Im just mad that I never knew lemmino existed till this drama blew up

"And whatnot"

I know they should put commentary in their video when they're using somebody else's video but if they're not going to do that at least say the person's name where you got the video from and tell them to go subscribe at least do that much if you're not going to do nothing at least do the bare minimum it's how you subscribers to go subscribe

No but actually I found out abt lemmino mostly because of XQC and now when he releases a video I watch it first before XQC does. I don't like when he goes somewhere while the video plays I would litteraly prefer for him to pause and not miss any context.

🤔 Please check Optimus down below.

smt i noticed about myself when i watch reaction videos i just end up skipping the "react" parts and just watch the video thats getting reacted to and idk why , i wouldnt search the video to watch it myself, but smt about just having somebody on the corner watching "with me" that just makes it more enticing to me even tho idgaf about the reactor or his opinion

All my homies love Lemmino, dude's gone from top-10 meme videos to some of the greatest videos on the platform.

Is that channel of that girl who criticized QtCinderella and the Streamer Awards banned or something? I can't find it anywhere.

It's a crime to not mention the cougar man himself @DarkViperAU, the anti reaction pioneer of recent history.

this has been a problem 13 years ago when react channels like megan reacts first popped up. back then making short sketches and flash cartoons for KZfaq would actually be profitable, but then lets players, vloggers and reactors started coming in and ruined the way these hardworking film makers made money. now youtube is just a cest pool of "influencers"

this is pikmin 1 not 2, love the gameplay still

It's about asking permission first. Like I'm sure you definitely got permission from the Pikmin rights holders to user their game in your video before you used it.

If you already know the situation and want to skip to what Lemino actually says it's at 7:00 - 7:30 Afterwards Optimus rambles on about Streamers until the end.

yo chat they hit the second tower, like, thats crazy dud 😐🍿

The only “react” streamer I watch is Asmon, so in a bubble this feels like a major L take. Outside of that tho if mfs aren’t really reacting I could see how people could be upset by that

This reminds me of how often people botch about MatPat constantly pausing and talking about the video hes watching. But he does a tualy proper reactions to things. He actively theorizes on the spot and honestly spends more time himself talkimg than whatever video hes watching.... that said there are times i wosh he wouldnt get super off topic during his many pauses. When he had his wife on the couch with him she reigned him in a bit.... until children started attackimg her for "controlling" him. He NEEDED her to keep hom on task.

Leaches going to leach