Legion Pro 5i is still a nice laptop but it just doesn't feel as pro as it used to. What do you guys think? Also, if you enjoyed the video feel free to like and subscribe! Thanks for watching

FYI - they didn’t remove the ability to change the thermal profiles. It’s a known bug that I experienced with my Legion Pro 5 (2023 RTX 4070) model. All I needed to do was uninstall the vantage software and reinstall from the Microsoft store. - Then everything came right back and I could change the thermal profiles (Silent, Balanced, Turbo, Etc…) from inside the vantage software.

I like this year's design. Very minimalistic, very simple, I like my gaming laptop to have the look of an ultrabook without its screaming "gaming laptop" when I take it outside. My previous laptop was Maingear Vector Pro 2, which is also a laptop with a very sleek and minimalistic design

It feels a little bit like the best thing about this year's laptops are the discounts for last year's models 😅

Another great, honest review --- I always look forward to them.

Thanks @matthew for the review, you've mentioned very quick something about USB charger when talking about the power supply dimension, but I would like to be sure on this point. The back usb-C port can be used to charge and power the laptop ( I know it will not be enough to run on full load, but I would like to know if I can use it to charge the laptop during working day, where we have a one monitor with usb-c and 90W power output, so with one cable I'll be able to work for all day under low power workload, like email and internet browsing.

the pref graphs around the end of the video were not distinguishing the 2022 and 2023 models accordingly so your commentary was the only guide for that part

This model is a beast at its price🔥. Just waiting to launch it in my country. Dont know why people are unnecessarily hating the Rtx 4070. Legion pro 5i 2023 is the best in its range. Its perfect for gaming as well as work.

Great video thank you and please make a review of the lenovo legion slim 5i

Good to see the temps are better, not perfect, than before. More companies should focus on dealing with this. Overall good laptop, though the omission of TB4 is just stupid. Thanks for the video. btw, a couple of mistake in the graphics with the year of release. :) It happens. :) edit: spelling

I can see what you're coming from. If I had to choose from legion 5 or Pro, I would choose the regular version because there's no much difference in performance, design and features. so much I would buy a previous one from 2021 to save it from landfill.

Matthew, please help with advice. I have the chance to buy an asus rog zephyrus g16 with i 13900h and rtx 4060 for 1700 dollars but I am worried about the temps being higher and the air that blows against the screen. Should I buy a lenovo 5 pro i13700hx and rtx 4060 instead? It is a bit more expensive but maybe I can find one with ryzen 7745hx.

Hey Matt, have you compared the 3070 vs 4070 laptop GPUs?

The 2022 Legion 5 Pro 3070 R7-6800h and the 2023 Legion Pro 5i 4070 i7-13700hx are very similarly priced in Malaysia. Infact, the 2023 Pro 5i is actually a tiny bit cheaper if you stick with the white keyboard backlight. You also get a monitor, backpack, mouse and headset for only a dollar each.

Great info. Do you have the benchmarks for DaVinci Resolve?

Do you think they are doing this to make the legion slim series look better?

I wanted to go for the 4060 variant before later ended up buying last year's 3060 one 😄

Was waiting for your video on this Matthew! EDIT: The omission of Thunderbolt 4 is a bummer. Literally one of the reason, beside Quick Sync, people pay extra for an Intel model is because of the TB port.

Where I live, it seems to be the cheapest rtx 4070 laptop (yet) and it's still 2000€. At least you're getting a good chassis, full 140W tgp and a nice 500 nits display (at 240hz, brighter than the one reviewed in the video)

What’s the difference between pro 5 with i9 32gb ram and rtx 4070 and pro 7 with same specs? Like the price difference in my country is less than 200€, not sure if it’s worth paying more

Completely agree with you, with your remarks!!!

I'm tempted to get one of these gaming laptops and use it as a desktop replacement

Thank you for your honesty in this (and previous) reviews. It's becoming a rare thing on KZfaq, with a lot of 'reviews' being thinly veiled advertisements!

What about the overclocking and undervolting capabilities? Do they come with the non pro version?

I think mines was like $30 more than the pro version and the major gripe i have with the 5i is the battery. I think i get 3 or 4 hours with it. But after watching this video im happy with my purchase.

@Matthew Moniz, Thanks for the review, great video. you mentioned that for 2023 model ( I'm looking at the one with i7-13700HX and RTX4060), the memory is upgradable to 64GB, however, their tech details says that it is only upgradable to up to 32GB. can you please confirm if you will if it is 32 or 64? thank you

I bought this laptop legion 5i pro Intel core i7 gen 8. The promlem is that the charge last 2hour and 40minute on time saver mode. And about 1 hour and 20 minutes on balanced With our using dgpu. Does the problem is with my laptop or at all same laptops?

Literally this video was great, I wonder when it would launch in india. By the way can you purchase the keycaps for legion that are sold separately I guess, let's see how they feel.

Definitely worth it when you compare with other products like MSI, ASUS

8:02 Last year's model ran much hotter? I see that both lines are labeled as LEGION 5 PRO (2023). I think you made a typo with your labeling.

At this point it makes more sense to call the legion pro 5 the legion, and the legion pro 7 the legion pro. In terms of ports and features, the legion pro 7 just looks likes a better version of the legion pro 5 but there aren't many differences except for the CPU/GPU, RGB and thunderbolt

I have a Legion 5 15ARP8 (legion 5 2022 body) but bought a 2023 Pro 5i (i7/4060). On paper its better but the thermals of the newer model seem a bit worse, especially with the i7 which is overpowered for my use, and hate the huge charging brick. Should i keep the pro 5i or the older chassis Legion 5 15ARP8? Im torn between the newer 16:10 screen vs. better thermals and more suitable CPU for my needs.

I got the 2022 5i pro with rtx 3070 ti about 6 months ago on sale for $1000 off including my student discount! After seeing how the rtx 4070 performs and the downgrades of the 2023 model I’m very happy with my decision 😁 The only thing that stinks is the limited 8gb vram on a few games but overall I’m not that disappointed if I need to lower setting just a tad or turning off ray tracing.

got the 4070, 240hz screen version for $1300 and im more than happy with it

Hey, please tell me I took a good decision buying the rtx 3060 variant at 1200$ instead of going for the 2400$ rtx 4060 current gen variant

If you notice, the naming this year is a bit different, last year had legion 5, legion 5 pro and legion 7. This year they have legion pro 5 and legion pro 7. Notice the different placement of the "pro" on the product name. While I do agree the "pro" on the product name is unnecessary, I think you didn't distinguish the difference between last year's name and this year's name enough. On the test, you wrote "legion pro 5" on both year model. The "pro" placement on last year's model is not in the middle. I think it made a difference because I believe this year's legion pro 5 is just an upgrade from last year's normal legion 5 and not the legion 5 pro. The fact that they throw "pro" on the 7 version this year as well made me believe that. The chassis design on pro 5 this year is the exact same as last year's normal legion 5. I don't know why they did that honestly. I wouldn't complain much had they not include "pro" in its name.

The best review 😎

Lenovo 16" Legion Pro 5i is on sale now at USD1250 (RTX 4060, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 240 Hz QHD IPS Display). Is it a better buy over ROG Zephyrus G14 2023 (16GB RAM, RTX 4060, 512GB SSD) at the same price ?

i just subscribed because you tried to make the laptop stand.

I'm i getting this right?.. Last year model has better screen brightness ,and a thunderbolt ports and this year model has non?

I totally agree with you.

Better to compare not only raw fps, but also enabled dlss 3/2 and frame gen because more and more games support it

Why would you need three type C ports?

Why is both red line and blue line for 2023 laptop ?? 7:57

yeah mate, cover those ports completely using your fingers when talking about them, actually insert a whole finger and see if the laptop "turns on"

7:51 both models were mentioned as 2023

4070 with the i7 hx processor is on sale on best buy now for 2k+tax. Great deal in my opinion

Does amd version have better battery? Everything was going okay till you said 2.30 hrs.

I have issues on my pro 5i. I cant dim, high or off keyboard rgb.

I'm still waiting for the Acer Helios 16/18 review. Acer just announced too many new laptops. Predator Triton 14 and 17X Predator Neo 16 Predator 3D 15 Aspire Vero 15 Swift X 16 TravelMate

watching this from my new legion 5 pro. best purchase so far!

If they took the inside and back vents of the previous model and paired it with the latest version's closed lid top view (simpler look) it would be much better. The inside of the latest model looks gamer while the outside looks tamer. It's mixed up imo

Lenovo site says 32GB RAM as max, not 64 for Intel CPU. Maybe there has been a BIOS update.

they will not give us a regular legion 5 this year they are introducing new budget lineup i think own or dis own made a video about the new budget line up

the 2023 generation of legion laptops really did take a step back in features. And they say it's to save money, but it's not even cheaper compare to the competition. The asus m16 4080 is at $2700USD, Acer helios 16w/ 4080 is $2500. Both those laptops have glass trackpads AND mini LED displays. Though, the m16 only has an H processor while the helios has the HX. The lenovo 7i pro 4080 is the more expensive one at $2750 but uses the same old display, plastic trackpad and plasticky construction. 2022 was the peak of legion I think.

I've been looking at this exact model since the prices have come down a bit. At around $1300, this is a pretty good value but I totally agree. It should not be called a "pro" product.

This or Helios neo 16? Someone please help me😢. Have been looking i7 13th gen * 4060 for gaming

Yaah... exactly.....Lenovo like big company should know what are Pro means ... Without increasing features they decrease features and also would put more aluminium body not plastic...

anyone knows why the laptop logo is different between many legion 5 pro 2023, I see both the Legion text and Y symbol version.

I think it would make a lot of sense with its launched with 14th gen intel

He he, bought the 3070 legion 5 pro, with the big Y in the back, never regret buying it. In fact, I would regret not buying it

It doesnt support advanced optimus?

How much vram are there please

Something wrong with the chart at 6:52 🤔

This one looks way better than the previous iterations of the 5i,good job Lenovo

i don't think they're gonna have a non pro legion this year, apart from slim. I might be wrong though.

Help guys… What to buy Legion 5i pro i7 13gen 4060 16gb 512ssd or Asus Rog strix g16 i7 13gen 4060 16gb 512ssd? Same price.

There are several mistakes on the graphs, Matthew. Thanks for the video though. :)

Its sad the gpu performance difference is small, i wanted a small gaming computer to do gaming without having to use a big metal box that wont fit in my room, nvidia crushed my dream. Those laptops are gonna age like expired milk.

Just got legion 5 pro with i9 13900hx , 4060 gpu 32 gb ram and 1tb size 😄 hope it’s good… got it on quite a sale over here soooo definitely an upgrade from my r5/7 5760H or something 3050 gpu 16 gb ram 512 storage 😊 ideapad slim 5 pro …

Some one pls, tell lenovo to make a 14inch legion. I’ve been waiting for ages, oh god!!

The last laptop I bought was in 2016 and the Y700 beats this one in sound quality Amazingly true. I tested both today as I checked out this model at the shop. I will get this soon with Windows 10. Should I upgrade the RAM to 36 mb for general purposes? Great review, thanks.

I think I'm going to wait for the next years model

this really begs the question that should i just buy the older model (gen7) instead of gen8?

It comes with 13700'HX' Processor

Which one should I buy? Lenovo Legion Pro 5i (2023) [RTX 4070 + i9] Or Asus Rog Strix G16 (2023) [RTX 4070 + i9] Please suggest.

Matthew’s content keeps getting better😂, I like the way he try’s out new stuff with his laptops 😂😂

Bro caught ts on camera. He was NOT gonna get called a liar 💀💀

legion 5 going for 870 usd on walmart has 4060 gpu, 1080 webcam, qhd display, ryzen 7735h cpu, 16gb ram 512gb ssd. legion pro 5i for 1150 usd has 4060, 1080 cam, qhd display, i7hx cpu, 32gb ram and 1tb ssd. honestly a solid deal on the legino 5!

The removal of the thunderbolt port is alittle too much.

WTF Lenovo? Why would you remove Thunderbolt ports? I better check the new Legion 5 Pro AMD model (gen 8)... I use the USB-C port on my Legion 5 (gen 5) to run an external USB powered portable monitor, it's something I can't live without now.

Hi. It will be so nice of you to help me with this, I'm deciding to buy a Lenovo legion Laptop however i don't really know which model to choose? . ✅️ Whether 2022 Lenovo legion 5i pro with i7 12700h and RTX 3070 or 2023 Lenovo legion pro 5i with i7 13700hx and RTX 4070; considering the fact that the 2023 model is quite more expensive which one you recommend? . ✅️ In terms of hardware specifications, I think RTX 3070 is better, for example, it has a memory bus width of 256 bits, while RTX 4070 is 128 bits, and I think the number of Cuda and Tensor cores are the same with 3070, and these are not much different, and even the 30 series may be better. . ✅️ I may occasionally play video games, but I also have heavy engineering software that requires a powerful CPU and GPU. . ✅️ Another question is that will the DLSS 3 and upcoming updates come for RTX 3070 or not? What do you think? . ✅️ Also, i've heard about a new feature called Frame Generation or FG is also provided in RTX series 40 and it seems that it is only for this series 40 and does not include the previous series, is that right? . ✅️ And is it true about FG that unlike DLSS it is not sensitive to the CPU Bottleneck issue? In many games, the FG option is available by default and can be turned on. . ✅️ So does FG really work and give a higher FPS experience, or are the rumors about it true that it is not of good quality? (It is said that DLSS cannot work properly if you have a CPU bottleneck, right?) . Which model should i buy from these two laptops, so that it has good power and enough FPS in running games that would be enough for the next few years and could perform well in heavy engineering softwares? . I apologize for my long comment, Thank you very much. 🙏

I'm trying to decide between a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with -AMD RYZEN 7 5800 H -GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB And a Lenovo Legion Pro 5i with -Intel Core i7-13700HX -Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 both with 16GB of Ram and 1TB ssd, can anyone tell me what would be a better option?

7:55?

True review 👍

I managed to get the model with the 4060 with i7 13th gen for 1250$

honestly these days I think pro, i think a lot of ports, so at least these still have that. Razer blade have better build quality... but also they aren't called pro lol. Anyways seems like a pass year for most people. Grab a 3060 or 3070ti legion 5i pro for cheaper which comes with a brighter screen on the base trim (2023 model needs the upgraded screen) for cheaper, or save for a 4080 laptop for the actual gains this generation.

Agree with Matthew on the end statements, 100%.

I bought a Legion 5i Pro with i7 13700HX 16 core 24 threads, 16Gb 4800MHz DDR5, 1Tb m.2 nvmE ssd, 16" 2560*1600 100% SRGB 240Hz screen, 4-zone RGB Lenovo Truestrike keyboard, RTX 4070 140W TGP. 🙂 I paid 1751.42 USD.

Should I get this or Legion 7 (2022) R9 5900HX 32RAM RTX3080 16VRAM. I really need your recommendation.

I feel for the RTX 40xx series the ROG Strix G16 is a much better choice over this! Edit: Strix only (for 4050,60,70) not the Strix Scar (4080,90)

Literally just bought this laptop but with better specs my have “32gb Ram, RTX4070, i7 13700HX, Screen QHD 240Hz 500Nits instead of this with 400nits and 165Hz

The previous models seem to be a better deal.

i thought u said "perky RGB" lmao

they may start making "pro max" now.

Case material was an important part of previous model attractiveness, with plastic case this time it really loses its premium feel

No Thunderbolt 4 is insane in 2023. I tried out Lenovo and was iffy even with that and a bunch of other features, and I wouldn't touch any of the new models with a ten foot pole. They had maintained a huge lead in critical and consumer perception and they seem to be blowing it.

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Nvidia 4000 M series is so confusing

There really is no sugar coating it, this years models are inferior. All tech company’s seem to be cheaping out and charging higher prices. Sure there is inflation, but I think it’s more greed.