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Agree. Very very unsatisfying IMO. My old T580 is a far superior 'typer'.

I'm new to the term "low travel" but I've been doing a lot of comparing for a next buy - could you tell me what the travel thing means? Thank you!

@@lindsaywilliambrown808 travel is the difference between the key's initial position and its pressed position (when the computer registers it). Mechanical keyboards and some other external ones have full travel. MacBooks and other slim laptops have very low travel- you barely need to press the key. ThinkPads are traditionally higher than other laptops. High travel reduces accidental keypresses and tends to be more satisfying for typists but some people prefer barely any.

I wonder what the actual travel is on this. 1.5mm maybe?

@@pattmayne yes, 1.5mm

Not sure if you have it yet, but is the fan loud when say watching a KZfaq video or is it able to stay cool and quiet? I can only configure RAM with 16+16, but I think it will take at least 40GB, right? Thanks

I see the spec sheet says Up to 48GB (16GB soldered + 32GB SO-DIMM) DDR4-3200. Shame it's not DDR5.

You can probably use a M.2 2242 SSD in there. Lenovo has been putting in those slots into a lot of their mobos. I use that same slot in my T480 as the boot drive.

The question becomes does it support an NVMe drive, or only a SATA SSD (more likely)

Has anyone had success using the second slot for m.2 2242 storage?

@@toddpark2893 I understand Lenovo is making the WWAN slot unable to run SSDs of any kind--to the point of preventing POST if anything other than an approve WWAN card is inserted there. I have not tried it myself, though.

@@mmadrigal I hope not.

New keyboard although there is a noticeable difference for thinkpad users, is still some of the best feeling keyboards out there compared to other brands.

@@305TechOfficial I'm going to order one as soon as they get the ones with the big battery and non-touch screen rolled out...

@@305TechOfficial The older style Lenovo keyboard was better, like on the thinkpad t510.

I really do not like this keyboard, for me it has gone too far now. I am regretting buying this thing

@@TheDesertsweeper ​ I hear you, but I'm going back and forth from being an old skool IBM Thinkpad user with the monster huge travel keys to one who uses a Macbook and a Chromebook Pixel, and I understand the appeal of the low travel concept... for me, the Pixel keyboard is the best and most comfortable today, and when I start to feel like you about this T16 keyboard I put it into that context and its really pretty solid and usable... and perhaps even better than the other low travel designs? Who knows... only time will tell! But I get where your sentiment is coming from... the low travel can feel mushy at times

The manual for the T16 and P16s is the same. i was hoping how the thermals would go for the p16s by having a t550 gpu but with a single fan.

I would also like to know the display quality.

@@TheLeif001 Write these questions as separate comments, not as answers to my post. Otherwise, the author may not see your questions. I'm not the author of the video.

Thank you so much for sharing this - I partly looked at T14 simply for its ethernet port originally so I REALLY appreciate knowing that. Will look at refurbs slightly older.

Yes mine also has this issue - it is not good. You really have to pull hard to get a cable out

I believe one slot is for AMD and one slot is for Intel. So we cant put both togerther..

I have the P15 Gen 2 with Xeon and it loads up in 5 seconds.

So..?

Wondering this too.... no fun with high end CPU if it runs at reduced capacity because of thermal throttling 😵

No fun if the fan is noisy too. Anyone else here bought one?

I would like to know too. I am wondering if it's worth waiting for the Ryzen 6000u version.

Thermals are good although the keyboard gets warmer than I'm used to when plugged in and charging because I opted for the big battery... but the charge is quick with the fast charger and in use its cool and quiet... overall I'm happy with the machine... I got the i7 with the non-touch low res low power blue blocking screen... really like this screen

yup - this ain't no traditional Lenovo keyboard. It is more like a retail HP now

The track point buttons are indeed flat, but function as always as you type... no negatives in that area

Andrew Wells, I mean that such flat TrackPoint buttons are much more difficult to feel blindly. I have experience using such keyboards, and there it is quite difficult to distinguish the middle button from the side buttons without looking. Even the hardly noticeable bumps on the middle button don't help much, because they are very insignificant. Look at how three-dimensional TrackPoint buttons used to be on older models.

@@Oleg__ I've been using TP's since the early IBM days and have used every iteration of trackpoint keyboards... I get what you are saying about the shape of the buttons, but I've never had a moment where it was an an issue in navigation or selection... but as always, these things are personal!

When buying through the website it is explicitly stated as soldered.

The Intel T16 is DDR4, the Amd T16 is DDR5.

Not available on Amazon yet, you can get one from Lenovo's website, search for T16.

@@305TechOfficial Yes, I've been there before. But there was only one configuration and a lousy gray color. I'll wait for more.

@@Alex_Bolton You can just build your own. They have great deals going on right now.

Yes, absolutely! It’s an easy upgrade although it will void warranty, make sure you keep the original one in case you need to ship it to Lenovo.

@@305TechOfficial thank you so much. Appreciate the response!

I installed W10 from scratch.

You do it from the vantage s/w and most likely from the bios too (from owning old lenovos).

I own two new Lenovo's and that's right. It can be done through the Vantage software or the BIOS. Suprisingly a lot of the special features of the computer can be controlled and configured through BIOS, very handy if you have an OS that doesn't support the software Lenovo makes for controlling them in the OS.

You have to clone over the OS or reinstall windows.

@@305TechOfficial I know that🤣I asked you which software did you use to clone over OS?

Why?

@@Oleg__ it says “P16” in big letters on the thumbnail. He’s just trying to get peoples attention.

@@KCkohler Oh, I see. I pointed it out to the author myself in a separate comment. But I have a slightly different story: I, on the contrary, am not interested in P16, and I found this video precisely because I was looking for T16.

Sorry for the mistake on the image, I was not done on purpose i did this at 3 in the morning and i was tired and made a mistake. i corrected the image.

Sorry for the mistake on the image, I was not done on purpose I did this at 3 in the morning and I was tired and made a mistake. I corrected the image.

In theory you can, ideally memory should be even for dual channel to properly work but you can do it :)

@@305TechOfficial Thanks for info.

Whatever I can find at a lower cost :)

No overheating issues or thermal throttling.

says 52.5 wh on the battery

I got the big battery and it gets about 10 hours with the non touch low res screen...

@@AndrewWells Are you using the U or P processor? From reviews I heard 12th Gen Intel is strong but power hungry.

@@InfiniteTranscendence this processor is the"12th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-1260P Processor (E-Core Max 3.40 GHz, P-Core Max 4.70 GHz with Turbo Boost, 12 Cores, 16 Threads, 18 MB Cache)"

@@AndrewWells Thanks. I know it's subjective but how do you find the keyboard? I have a T15, P15, and P17, all of which are Gen 2. I considered swapping the T15 gen 2 for this to get the 100% sRGB screen. Didn't know if it was worth it if I had to hope between the different keyboards as the travel and size of the keys are different. I am likely to upgrade the LCD on the T15 gen 2 as it would be perfect if I did. Are you accommodating to the feel quite well? Thanks.

When buying through the Lenovo website the option to change the standard 52.5 Wh battery to 86 Wh is available.

@@CreateHubTips I mean after you bought it and want to upgrade

@@spamrundie I have this same question as well.

@Arifin Othman, Please Sir can you buy for me a Lenovo P17 Gen 2 Laptop? Please I need this for my software development career. Processor core i9-11950H RAM 64 gig Screen size: 17 inches Graphics NVIDIA RTC-A4000

​@@georgeuba5421 yes sir please buy him an overspecced laptop for his hello world career.

@@sartura You probably haven't used android studio before or done any data analytics on your computer? Or used a Virtual box on Linux systems? You think I am a beginner programmer?

@@georgeuba5421 brainiac over here doing all of the cutting edge things but still can't afford a computer. get rekt

@@georgeuba5421 Experienced programmer begging random folks on youtube to buy him a new laptop. Awesome!

Have the same configurations..

I've been getting about 10 hours combined use with the big battery... as always you have to use these for a few months to see where they really wind up...

I also get around 4 hours...A bit disappointing..

To answer my own question - it needs an NVMe drive that is shorter (2242) and it runs at half-speed (Only 2-lanes allocated to that slot) - but still faster than SSD SATA

So it can have a second ssd? It's advertised as only being able to have 1

@@frankyboy1806 yes it can - running in mine now

@@TheDesertsweeper nice I want a t16. Only thing holding me back was this. Going to get one now

@@frankyboy1806 I must comment that I am not excited by this laptop - it is pretty bland and the keys have very little travel. If that is not an issue, the one nice thing is the display size - though a QHD resolution would have done the 16" size better than my 1920x1200 version

Can you please suggest me an alternative laptop for this model, i like it overall, but just because of battery timing i want to make a return.need your expert opinion

Everyone has this problem…. It’s just physics and thermal limitations, time will solve these challenges.

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very much price