Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 6 Review and Comparison to older X1 Yoga

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This is a review of the X1 Yoga Gen 6. It includes comparisons to X1 Yoga Gen 1-5 in the process. It isn't a performance benchmark review of i5/i7, SSD or similar stats. It is showing the physical characteristics. At the end there is information on options available. Those options are at these websites:
www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/...
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Thin...
My video on upgrading the NVMe SSD is available at
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@yudye9272 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great review! That's really clear to see the differences between different machines!

@khacchinhnguyen7859 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Brian! I am using X1 yoga gen 3 and consider to change to gen 6. Your review is very helpful!

@belalkoura1602 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brian! big support on your page

@jeffgasparitsch8585 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, looking forward to my new Gen 6

@ghdbdeeeeeaqqq 3 жыл бұрын

Great review, thanks a lot!

@bradray4505 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that reference link, it helped me determine that I won't be able to get the model that I wanted (32 GB RAM) here in the states.

@MrStrenggeheim2000 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. Very informational and very helpful for my decision, what to buy from Lenovo.

@dimitrioskatsantonis3643 3 жыл бұрын

thank you !! great video !

@CristiSalanti 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Brian!

@laurentiunistor1887 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great early review! The comparisons were very helpful! As of my current verification, going further from the PSREF, I found out that on the German and the Australian sites of Lenovo you can customize the machine, adding the PCIe 4 is a little over half a thousand AUD, so to speak, and maxing out the package is quite eye-watering :-D If at a later point you could really put the CPU through its paces, and let us know how it performs.

@Sebsen14 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing review, ordered an X1 Yoga Gen 6 just now. Cannot wait for it!

@aravindcetce 3 жыл бұрын

Which country it is available ?

@Sebsen14 3 жыл бұрын

@@aravindcetce I'm from Germany.

@whisperywind8768 2 жыл бұрын

This is great! Thank you

@rogerl7533 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, Brian. As best as I can tell, if you have the 4k screen, you do not have a matte screen (which Lenovo calls 'anti-glare'); you have an anti-reflective screen which, regrettably, reflects pretty much ALL external light sources.

@yangliu2087 3 жыл бұрын

It’s incredible that you have six X1!

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I only have them from my work, they aren’t my personal devices.

@TuddYT 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. Just about to get an X1 Yoga Gen 2 for 600. Highest configuration

@rytmydjembe 2 жыл бұрын

Why not gen1? It is big difference in battery?

@r_1353 3 жыл бұрын

thank you!!

@zechreverse6104 3 жыл бұрын

VERY GOOOOOD. . U HAVE ALL GEN

@ubermod5564 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to make this review. Interesting to see the evolution of the X1 yoga, not many folk have the opportunity to do that comparison the way you have! Any comments on battery life or smoothness of operation? I appreciate as you have said that it is not your primary device. Not a bad one to have kicking around though surely.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Happy you found it useful. The battery is even larger than the already big battery in previous X1 Yoga I am sure it will last through a normal day unless you are rendering video or playing games. It is snappy and smooth, which honestly should be expected from a current machine.

@mattyum1989 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 Have you tried disabling options in the Windows privacy settings and services in Windows? On the X1Y3, I find a lot of the Lenovo services are hogs that just use up a lot of battery - things like the System interface foundation, Intelligent Sensing, Power Manager, Dolby, Realtek Audio, etc. You could go into the Command Prompt in Admin mode, then type in "powercfg -batteryreport" (without the quotes) which generates a html page to show what your drain is and battery capacity at various times and events. It'll show you how much sleep is using, etc.

@JesseJamesHeadrick 3 жыл бұрын

How is the battery life with the 4k panel?

@alleysthoughts Жыл бұрын

Hi can u maybe do a vid abt using this laptop a year later and how it holds up? I got this version 20XY004PMH

@alanchan8205 3 жыл бұрын

How has the Yoga X1 hinges hold up to? I hear a lot of complaints about the Lenovo hinges breaking including Yoga. Is the new version of Yoga X1 version 6 hinges crack proof because of the aluminum base instead of plastic like some of the Legion models? This is the only issue that is making me hesitant to buy the Yoga X1. Thanks

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I have over 100 X1 Yoga from Gen 1-6 at my work. I have had zero with hinge issues. I have had other issues but not hinges. They are very well designed and sturdy. We haven’t had Gen 6 long enough to know but I have no fear of that issue.

@dominikmeier382 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video. A bit more light would be nice to see the black devices better

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I noticed that after I was done. Not the best lighting. It was my first time doing it and learned a bunch for next time if I do it.

@TechnoLuke 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for review Brian! Very interesting about WWAN that when this option chosen bottom plate was of different material in previous models. Was it like standard thinkpad material on the bottom and aluminium on the top? Wasn't it looking weird?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it looked odd. There was much discussion on it via the lenovo forums two years ago. There wasn't a sure way to know which you were getting. If you would like to see the debate forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/2019-X1-Yoga-4th-Gen-discussion-thread/m-p/4334403?page=14 I don't think the same thing happened with Gen 5 and don't know about Gen 6.

@TechnoLuke 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 Actually in the other video of swapping ssd Jin mentiod sth about it in gen 5 too. Super strange. Now I need to consider if it's worth having wwan for odd look. Also, I wonder, could no WWAN but added NFC cause swap of material on the bottom.

@cladadverse 3 жыл бұрын

What specific purposes of your work organization do these Yogas fulfill instead of regular clampshell ThinkPads?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I work at a school and these are used by teachers. The ability to ink is very beneficial for grading and other interactions that can’t be done with a mouse.

@RioFastRacer 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I just ordered a ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 6. I wanted to know if you kew if the Thinkpad Pro Docking Station (mechanical docking) was compatible with it. Thanks in advance.

@hoyty76 2 жыл бұрын

Check out support.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories/um006391-accessories-and-options-compatibility-matrix-ocm for the definitive answer.

@jf7445 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for creating this video. It's gold for many of us trying to visualize the differences! I was wondering if you had any additional insight on the newer Gen 7 or Gen 8 X1 Yoga laptops. I am trying to decide between Gen 4 vs Gen 6/7/8 based on best value for a 4-5+ years laptop, and so far Gen 6 seems like the best although Gen 4 ebay prices are tempting. Gen 7 has 12th gen but worse battery and thermals it seems. Gen 8 looks good too but pricing. Also, do you recommend 16gb or 32gb for light coding and "future proofing"

@hoyty76 Жыл бұрын

The only real difference between 6/7 is the processor. If you get P instead of U processor it definitely is worse battery life. The 8 is again very similar. For long term I would go 32 since it can’t be upgraded.

@jf7445 Жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 Ah thanks for getting back to me. That's my dilemma for my trying to stay around my price range Gen 6 32gb vs Gen 7 with 12th gen but 16gb. Maybe RAM is more important for these! Thanks

@JohnoScrewdriverArtist 9 ай бұрын

Hi Brian. Thanks for the review I'm new to these and only have a limited amount of money to spend. Is there much difference between the Gen 4 and Gen 6 ? Thanks

@hoyty76 9 ай бұрын

Depending on which Gen 4 it is either a Intel 8 or 10 series and Gen 6 is 11 series. Not a big difference. The screen is 16:10 on Gen 6 vs 16:9. They are very similar.

@jarekkarlik 2 жыл бұрын

I buy new one X1 Yoga G6, but my battery live only 4,5 hours :(

@VincentVerb 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. Very usefull. How has fan noise been for you?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed it, I guess that is good.

@guilhermemammana3806 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bian, Excellent video! Do you know if YogaX1Gen6 has an LTE card slot inside? I bought one. But I am not sure if it comes with one inside or even with a slot, so I could insert a LTE card on it. Trying to find the answer maybe you could help me. Thanks

@hoyty76 Жыл бұрын

There are versions of it that have LTE as an option but I am not sure that all of them have the slot for SIM or antenna wires to add later. For example only one model in the US 20XY00BKUS was sold with it in there. You can go to psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X1_Yoga_Gen_6 and lookup what models come with it.

@Martin23673 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Brian, could you maybe elaborate how many computers (laptops and stationary machines) you have, how/for which tasks you use them and why you maybe even keep machines you don't use anymore? I would be interested because I always feel slightly guilty when I think about getting a secondary notebook, although my existing Yoga C940 one is only 14 months old and does everything I need. Always like to know about other people's computing habits and your seem to be special with that array of Yoga X1s. Did you buy them all by yourself? Personally I so far rather thought about getting computers fulfilling different roles, but specializing in one particular sort of machine would make you more of a connoisseur, I suppose. Best wishes!

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Only the Yoga Gen 6 is mine. The rest are for work. I support about 100 Lenovo laptops and 350 Microsoft Surface Pro. I buy them annually so I have access to almost every generation for last 6-7 years. I have a desktop that is custom built and now the Yoga G6 which replaced my Dell XPS 13 9360 from 4-5 years ago. I just don’t have space or time to personally maintain that many machines anymore.

@staver76 2 жыл бұрын

Have you had experience with the x13 yoga gen 2? More specifically how that keyboard compares to the x1 yoga gen 6 keyboard? Kind of a longshot but hopefully you have

@hoyty76 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry only used X1 Yoga not the X13.

@staver76 2 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 No worries ,thanks for the prompt reply and in depth video!

@Martin23673 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this helpful review that also illuminates historical aspects. :-) Is there anyone else who would like a Yoga Thinkpad X1 with a 15" or even 16" screen? I always feel that 14" is a tad small to put several windows side by side when coding. Writing this with my Yoga C940 15".

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I personally don’t want a bigger screen / laptop than this if I am going to carry it regularly. Weight and fitting in a bag becomes an issue after a certain size. If I want a bigger screen I will attach a monitor.

@rajuppi 3 жыл бұрын

OMG, u have all the generations...I am 6 generations behind u

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I only have them since we buy machines annually at work. They are not mine.

@mattyum1989 3 жыл бұрын

Does the matte screen show scratches easily? Is it still glass or is it plastic on top? How is the pen like on the matte screen?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't had it long enough to speak on scratches, honestly with previous X1 Yoga I never saw scratches that couldn't be cleaned off. They weren't scratches as much as dirt streaks. It appears to still be glass. Pen seems to work and slide similarly on this screen.

@mattyum1989 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 Is the finish of the surface comparable to a regular matte screen without a glass surface on top (like, is it rough)? In Australia we've got two options: Anti-Reflective/Anti-smudge (which is essentially gloss), and Anti-glare (a $50 option for 1920x1200). I've got a Kindle Oasis, which has a matte glass screen, and I'm wondering if it's like that. Sometimes the reflections can be a bit annoying on the X1Y3.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I don't have a Kindle Oasis but I have had many generations of Paper White and this screen doesn't have the type of coating those screens have. Much closer to a standard sheet of glass.

@touchphonethai 3 жыл бұрын

Please compare the performance of SSD PCIe 4.0 card with the previous model that run with SSD PCIe 3.0 card.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

The PCIe 4.0 drive is about 2x as fast read and 20-25% faster write speed.

@touchphonethai 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 wow!

@brucemblue 3 жыл бұрын

How well does the touch (finger and pen) work with a 4k screen? I have touch on my 1080p 14" screen, and I misfire sometimes even on that...

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Most people will run at 200% scaling so the objects are close in size to 1080p. As long as the app is scaling aware it shouldn't be an issue. If you want to work on something like photo editing though you have the option of enhanced precision.

@akshay5569 2 жыл бұрын

Both this and m1pro macbook pro cost same in india (14") which should I go for??

@hoyty76 2 жыл бұрын

It all depends if you want a PC or a Mac. I think they are both good laptops and much of the difference is the software. The X1 Yoga Gen 6 is about a year old now and the performance of M1 is likely better depending on what you are doing.

@hubertlamm 3 жыл бұрын

Nowhere in the world is there a pre-built WWAN model! The CTO models in Australia don't have WWAN either - I wonder what's going on? (I'm waiting for one with a 5G modem).

@mattyum1989 3 жыл бұрын

You can now spec out WWAN in Australia!

@hubertlamm 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattyum1989 yeah - just bought one. 6-8 weeks before it's shipped apparently :(

@mattyum1989 3 жыл бұрын

Is there PWM on the 4k screen? You can see it camera in slow-mo if it shows lines when lowering the brightness.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know I recorded a slow-mo video and you can look at it here 1drv.ms/v/s!AtCN-1lJ1xdUm_kFa-Tbg91DyU2Zlg?e=3hUQld and see if you can see it?

@mattyum1989 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 Thanks for the video! I don't see any lines, so that's a relief.

@ghdbdeeeeeaqqq 3 жыл бұрын

I really don't like glossy screen ... and you can't see it in your video. How glossy, or matte is your gen 6 screen?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

It is more matte than previous generations but still acts more like a mirror than I would prefer.

@jeffgasparitsch8585 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 and that is the UHD+ version in your review correct?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffgasparitsch8585 yes it is the UHD one. I have since gotten some Yoga G6 with FHD screen. In most instances there isn’t a huge difference since I am scaling at 200%. With certain content it is better but normal office stuff hard to notice with such small screen.

@kestradalp 3 жыл бұрын

How does the pen work? How much latency is there?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

It works well. It is Wacom technology based. The actual included pen isn’t great but is functional, you can use more ergonomic ones. I have extensive experience with Surface Pen and it is comparable.

@popokatapetl6995 3 жыл бұрын

If they just put the same materials on regular x1, this way I have to consider yoga 6 even I am not fan od convertible devices. What is better buying by your opinion. Regular carbon just do not feel good with that rubberized coating. Please advise

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

If you are talking about X1 Carbon it isn't rubber it is Carbon Fiber (Top), Magnesium Alloy (Bottom). It isn't as flashy as the Aluminum on X1 Yoga but works well. Whichever you like better. I have never used a X1 Carbon so I can't comment on it.

@vlad132ful 7 ай бұрын

Do now comparison x1 ThinkPad Yoga 6 vs X1 ThinkPad Yoga 7 vs X1 ThinkPad Yoga 8, please! It will be necessar.

@hoyty76 7 ай бұрын

I have them, I will see what I can do.

@vlad132ful 7 ай бұрын

@@hoyty76 will be awesome and very useful for many people. :)

@cleavantlim 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video but may I know is there any heat issue or thermal throttling issue like the gen 3 have had? Or is it much improved now as it now it uses 2 fan.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen any issues but I haven't really stressed it either. Honestly never heard complaints on the 15 X1 Yoga Gen 3 for throttling issues.

@cleavantlim 3 жыл бұрын

Oh ok thanks. I guess the early batch as I have some heat issue if I put mine into "performance" power setting, it got me worry that's why I always set it into normal mode

@willapanews9761 3 жыл бұрын

Is the x1 yoga a throw away after a year laptop?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not, we have some X1 Yoga Gen 1 still in use after 5 years. They are premium machines.

@willapanews9761 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the reply. Is the x1 yoga gen 6 with i5 11th gen 16 gb ram, uhd display, good for video and photo editing? Can you use pen to draw and right on photographs / overlay on video?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

@@willapanews9761 you can use the pen on almost any program to interact. You can definitely do that. It is just as capable as any other laptop. It isn’t as good as a machine with dedicated graphics like nVidia that helps with video processing. It can do it but will just be a little slower.

@moodyrcf 3 жыл бұрын

battery life?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

I am not very mobile right now so I can't say much on this. It is a bigger battery than previous generations. Also the answer is dependent on CPU / Screen choice as much as anything else.

@moodyrcf 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 rough estimate on average normal usage? thats for the speedy reply. this is a great review. hope to see more

@ubermod5564 3 жыл бұрын

@@moodyrcf I received my Gen 6 a couple of days ago, it's the FHD version and the battery seems decent, lasting 8+ hours without doing anything too intensive, I've had it set to "better performance" mode as well, will get more if you choose better battery mode. However, I assume with the UHD models the battery life will be much less.

@thomaswarren3784 3 жыл бұрын

or you could just open it up and add your own 2tb drive... They charge $500 dollars to go from 256gb to 1tb when a 2tb nvme ssd costs $400. just wow

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, see my other video for that exact process. I upgraded from PCIe 3.0 256 GB to PCIe 4.0 to 1 TB. Very easy on this model.

@fahads_artwork 3 жыл бұрын

6 generation means ,,there processor of 6 gen ,,like core i5 6th generation,or core i 7 sixth generation?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

No, it is the sixth version of the X1 Yoga model. It has 11th Gen Intel in it.

@fahads_artwork 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 okey so if i went to buy one how can i difference between gen 1-6 gen ,,,an easy way?

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

@@fahads_artwork if you are buying from store it should have model that includes info. If not you can look at sticker on bottom to see version. Also can look up model number online.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

@@fahads_artwork also my video shows every version and differences like color / ports / size.

@fahads_artwork 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 Thanks :)

@blacktyke 3 жыл бұрын

can you sell me one of these..

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry still using them.

@hanjarake_taro 2 жыл бұрын

oh you have every generation YOGAs

@hoyty76 2 жыл бұрын

Should be getting X1 Yoga Gen 7 by next week.

@muhammadsalman7714 3 жыл бұрын

You are rich guy ;)

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

They aren't all mine, mostly my work. Only the Yoga 6 is mine.

@dillipinaction 3 жыл бұрын

Why you narrating the whole history of X1 Yoga laptops? Is anyone going to buy those Gen 1, 2 and 3 models. We can understand you're an X1 Yoga enthusiast, but stretching the video too long with this boring stuff is just annoying.

@hoyty76 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry it didn’t meet your expectations.

@VincentVerb 3 жыл бұрын

I suggest you buy one and show us how you do it better.

@dillipinaction 3 жыл бұрын

@@VincentVerb Better watch this one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aOCearmUqdrDj30.html When someone makes a video about a newly launched product, the presenter's goal should be how the viewers can see its features up close and make a buying decision. It really does not cost any more to do that. And I did not find that in the above video. It was not addressing the viewers' needs.

@ghostlyc9465 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoyty76 hey you did an awesome job man, I just got X1Y6 to start financial models. Your video helped me feel confident about this purchase as a rookie.. but yeah don’t go to in depth for past models cause it loses audience at times. Other than that you made a great video for your first time reviewing a laptop!