Lessons from Nursing to the World | Kathleen Bartholomew | TEDxSanJuanIsland

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8 жыл бұрын

How can a profession with amazing potential for human connection fall short and fail to offer compassionate care? And why do nurses too often go in the other direction-and do harm?
Registered Nurse Kathleen Bartholomew dissects the hierarchical culture within the nursing profession, and examines why nurses who are devalued and shamed are much more likely to make mistakes and relay critical patient information to a physician.
Kathleen Bartholomew, RN, MN, has been a national speaker for the past fourteen years. She was nominated in 2010 by Health Leaders Media as one of the top 20 people in the U. S. changing the culture of healthcare - specifically for calling attention to the dangerous impact on patient care of disruptive behavior by medical professionals, as well as the critical need for better physician-nurse communication.
Kathleen is the author of five books and is best known for her pioneering work, “Ending Nurse to Nurse Hostility” (2006), which offered the first comprehensive and compassionate look at the etiology and impact of horizontal violence on both patients and nurses. As a health care culture expert, Kathleen now speaks about patient safety, communication, leadership and power to hospital boards, the military, senior leadership, and front line staff.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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@MindaFraser
@MindaFraser 3 жыл бұрын
As a nursing student , I am constantly witnessing this bullying and have experienced it first hand myself. It is so toxic. I have it in my mind to make sure when i graduate and earn my license as a registered nurse, that I can find a unit to work on with emotionally healthy leadership. It is SO so SO SO important. We need to take care of each other. We need to lift each other up. I loved this Ted Talk. Thank you!
@rexisretro
@rexisretro 2 жыл бұрын
Respect
@zombiebean6191
@zombiebean6191 Ай бұрын
6:21 "What an honor to be present in someone's life at their most vulnerable point"
@clutterpossum6557
@clutterpossum6557 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Every nursing student should see this in their final year of school.
@katiekat4457
@katiekat4457 6 жыл бұрын
Clutter Possum it’s not so much the new nurses that carry the attitude. It’s the old nurses.
@unkowngambler6706
@unkowngambler6706 6 жыл бұрын
Katie Kat LMAO. This is so true.
@okotray4577
@okotray4577 5 жыл бұрын
Not only nursing students, everyone.
@behoushi
@behoushi 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could imprint this on every new grad nurse, This is such a powerful lesson that we all need to comprehend
@thickieg
@thickieg 3 жыл бұрын
We do. I'm currently in clinical watching it
@cristyramirez7329
@cristyramirez7329 7 жыл бұрын
I always tell my staff that no one is more important than anyone else: we are all equally important and we all must work together to function. Titles are thrown out the door.
@arbabahmed7838
@arbabahmed7838 7 жыл бұрын
The Rеal ЕD Cure is over 300 Years Old! twitter.com/28b6ff78e5015b4ae/status/804602507225808896 Leеeessons from Nursing toооo thе Wоrld Каthleeen Bаrtholomew TEDxSаnJuanIsland
@chopsticksforlegs
@chopsticksforlegs 7 жыл бұрын
Your husband leaving you was a blessing to your patients.
@koafr84
@koafr84 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you for the insight
@eastersarah3697
@eastersarah3697 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding me that being a nurse isn’t just a job... but truly a service to others
@AlejandroTorres-cl9zo
@AlejandroTorres-cl9zo 5 жыл бұрын
In this moment, this video changed my life, my motivation, and my mindset. Thank you for existing.
@crispinamarybush
@crispinamarybush 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Lessons as a nurse I can listen for hours! So true the hierarchy is causing so much stress and suffering for humanity.
@victoriac9884
@victoriac9884 6 жыл бұрын
EVERY HOSPITAL OR ANYWHERE THERE ARE NURSES NEEDS TO WATCH THIS AND TEACH THIS!
@kayefab587
@kayefab587 5 жыл бұрын
This is so true! I wish all nurse supervisors are like you Ms. Kathleen.
@kimphan5630
@kimphan5630 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please suggest this video to be mandatory for all managers to watch at the hospital .
@paulafernandaxistoestherel8077
@paulafernandaxistoestherel8077 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Brazilian nurse, and I agree with her. We work With our hearts and Knowlegdment. God bless all nurses! We are missioners in this job ,
@jamyumang1561
@jamyumang1561 7 жыл бұрын
Dismantle the hierarchy. All healthcare providers should work as a team for the best quality of patient care. Thank you for sharing 😃
@jon782
@jon782 6 жыл бұрын
teams need leaders, and thus a hierarchy. some severe medical mistakes have been made because nobody took charge.
@liz5473
@liz5473 6 жыл бұрын
jon b Because nobody was competent not because no one took charge. The two differ.
@myaussiebabe1
@myaussiebabe1 5 жыл бұрын
@@jon782 You can have team leaders who treat each person with respect. That is what makes them great team leaders.
@deeb5688
@deeb5688 3 жыл бұрын
get a cluer
@annachaidez1696
@annachaidez1696 Жыл бұрын
@@myaussiebabe1 😮😮😮 be
@TubeDeviant
@TubeDeviant 7 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that this video has less than 35000 views.. Even if it's only healthcare providers who see this video, it should be shared, conversations be sparked.. Everyone should be sharing this video..
@damilolabisugasoyoye6844
@damilolabisugasoyoye6844 6 жыл бұрын
TubeDeviant Absolutely!
@annateacheraustralia9868
@annateacheraustralia9868 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best Ted talks I’ve seen. Thank you for sharing your story Kathleen, it was very inspirational and a must for all prospective nursing students.
@ZapgermsNow
@ZapgermsNow 3 ай бұрын
As a longtime nurse who has worked in L&D, Med-Surg, step down, ICU, and ER, I could definitely recognize the hierarchical stepladders you showed. I have definitely found myself buying into them. It was actually only after I moved away from the bedside (to Infection Control) did I truly get the necessity and importance of every single person on the team, from Security, Housekeeping, Dietary, and Facilities, to Respiratory, Imaging, Lab, Nursing, and Medical Staff. It’s only when everyone recognizes the importance of every other piece of what the hospital is here for, that we can give every patient our best efforts.
@ecwest923
@ecwest923 6 жыл бұрын
I just randomly came across this video today. I'm an Athletic Trainer and currently applying to nursing school. EVERYTHING you've said in this video needs to be applied to so many companies, organizations and institutions. Thank you, Kathleen! I hope to meet you in person one day once I become an RN. I shared this video with a friend of mine who is also in nursing school. Peace and God Bless!
@Strongbabiix3
@Strongbabiix3 5 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent lesson about humility and lateral violence. I'm starting my nurse residency in the Neuro ICU, and I'll remember this lesson as I continue learning to be a good nurse.
@chi-chianike2797
@chi-chianike2797 3 жыл бұрын
wow! this is hands down the best TEDx talk I have ever been forced by Professors to watch. Captivating, inspiring, and tears-provoking.
@Mister_MasterzRN
@Mister_MasterzRN 2 жыл бұрын
This hits really hard especially if you’re a nurse. This was amazing. Thank you.
@ktorpie
@ktorpie 7 жыл бұрын
You are such a GREAT story teller!
@kyothejedi
@kyothejedi 4 жыл бұрын
power trips are definitely a real thing in the nursing field. Loved this
@zaramilton1480
@zaramilton1480 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting my first year of nursing studying this year, and this video has given me an insight into what life will be like once I'm graduated
@fadzramaringsalim3757
@fadzramaringsalim3757 2 жыл бұрын
You are probably in your third year, I am currently a first year nursing student and same! goodluck on life
@shianne5550
@shianne5550 8 ай бұрын
just started my first year!
@aspinamick1238
@aspinamick1238 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me miss my old unit so much... and reminds me why I did not stay at that hospital... I worked as a nurse aid at a local hospital for one year and it was by far one of my favorite jobs until they shut down the unit, and it was my favorite because of the people on my unit. The nurses treated us aids with a lot of respect and reminded us that we were important to the unit. If the unit was overwhelmed the charge nurses were right there to step in and help without blaming the other members for not being on top of things (it was a fast-paced admissions unit). The doctors always expressed appreciation for what we did. Our housekeeper was one of our favorite people, and while she didn't specifically work for our floor she was nearly always assigned to us and we once voted her employee of the month for the unit because she was awesome, and we would help her out whenever possible. Our unit regularly did "family dinners" where we would all get together for cookouts. Why were we shut down? Our unit didn't make as much money as another, so they eliminated our unit and expanded a more profitable one. We all lost our jobs and were told to re-apply to other floors if we wished to continue working for the hospital. Made moving to a company with such a clear hierarchy and disconnect really difficult.
@winnerfromindia2309
@winnerfromindia2309 5 жыл бұрын
Motivational for nurses..Thats .Good thing for all nurses...💞
@claudiayanirarojas1808
@claudiayanirarojas1808 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this just made me cry. I’ve been in school for over 8 yrs finishing up my prerequisites & just a few weeks ago I decided no matter what Iam going to become an RN. I know I have a calling but raising my kids going through losses and life I’ve been keeping my dream aside. This just made me say Yes I can do it, thank you so much. I know it’s hard but what a way of giving back to the world by helping others 🙏🏻
@lk2997
@lk2997 4 жыл бұрын
Did you do it? Did you finish and become a nurse? I hope you did!
@claudiayanirarojas1808
@claudiayanirarojas1808 4 жыл бұрын
I’m actually going back to school fall semester. Praying to make it through
@lk2997
@lk2997 4 жыл бұрын
Slim Goddess that’s awesome! You can do it!!💪🏼🙏🏼
@nursez2586
@nursez2586 4 жыл бұрын
This should be mandatory for all nursing students to watch!
@lorettalee4888
@lorettalee4888 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! You have summed up the nuances, the passion, and the impact of RNs.
@nataliek6555
@nataliek6555 4 жыл бұрын
I love this concept. I'd like to see it carried to the schools too. No matter if a student is on the football team, a cheerleader, the brainy science team, the reading club, or special ed,... every single student in the school is just as important as the next. It seems that adults like to promote "anti-bullying" at the schools, but jeez, I can't help but worry that the kids learn how to bully from the adults. 🙄 Great message!!
@marywilson8733
@marywilson8733 4 жыл бұрын
This lady is fantastic I wish our hospital had someone like you
@maiseybrooks7159
@maiseybrooks7159 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this. It is so easy to get worn down. Why do we fear calling doctors, night or day shift? Why is it ok to be cursed at by co workers? We are nothing without each other. If we could treat each other with a little more kindness, a little more humanity, I think it would show it's benefit in patient outcomes and employee resiliency as well.
@biniamasefaasefashiferaw9421
@biniamasefaasefashiferaw9421 Ай бұрын
Amazing talk, well done ❤ I fell proud to be a nurse more than ever ..
@rebeccaabel4589
@rebeccaabel4589 6 жыл бұрын
I wish she was my boss or nurse admistrator. All RNs Physician cafeteria workers housekeeping secretaries patient observers everyone is a valuable asset to a hospital or long term care health care facility. Unfortunately healthcare has become business oriented industry. Short staffed where RNs on average have 6 to 10 pts. One housekeeper night shift available for entire hospital.
@SS-yt9ie
@SS-yt9ie 3 жыл бұрын
YOU'VE NAILED IT!! I have been bullied and back stabbed ,set up for failure, but I persevered in this non -altruistic field, for 38 years. Nurses can be HORRIFIC to each other. The hierarchy exists on many different levels. What facility do you work for or skills you have, much schooling, what school, what title? What license? All make you feel welcomed or alienated or shunned. In the meantime the Job alone is stressful. Then add in that toxicity. A good freind said, " a nurse can be stabbed a thousand times by her /his co workers." And the patient or resident suffers! When will it end? I , like others can't wait to retire. I will run like the wind!
@whalefuhk
@whalefuhk 4 жыл бұрын
BEYOND inspiring. Every healthcare worker needs to watch this!
@scrapbookedmemories7736
@scrapbookedmemories7736 3 жыл бұрын
Texas nurses need to hear this.
@shraddhamahwe8051
@shraddhamahwe8051 3 жыл бұрын
I have been a nurse for 20+ years and now working fir nhs ! The nhs culture is so hostile . I wondered why in a compassionate profession there’s so much hostility . I understand why ,now. I need more videos from this speaker. This speech is Worth every nurses oath in the World.
@sirEufrazzio
@sirEufrazzio 5 жыл бұрын
We need to improve power dynamics in healthcare in order to save patients lives, but also to credit nurses the value that their work has. No health institution functions without nurses and that fact says a lot.
@yanxiao116
@yanxiao116 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite authors - Plan to use the video in a course on human factors in healthcare. Thank you!!!
@emryszhan685
@emryszhan685 3 жыл бұрын
We need this kind of leader in every unit. 😍
@26dianalove
@26dianalove 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful words from a beautiful woman.
@JARVIS5541
@JARVIS5541 7 жыл бұрын
I needed this talk indeed. I am at the moment through the worst horrendous experience as student nurse. I could not find consolation why things went wrong on placement. What I did wrong? but now I can understand that without support, team job and honest approach nurses are nothing.
@fernandorego098
@fernandorego098 5 жыл бұрын
If it's not for you then you really need to be honest with yourself..difficult career choice..doesn't get any better.
@Nicole3900
@Nicole3900 5 жыл бұрын
@Fernando Rego it sounds like one particular placement was bad in her case. There are so many types of nursing. A bad placement on a bad floor will be horrible and make anyone question their career choice! But that does not mean they shouldn't be a nurse or that it "doesn't get any better." They need to find a non-toxic environment with supportive staff and in an area of nursing they find interesting/enjoy.
@natbrookes85
@natbrookes85 5 жыл бұрын
Nursing isn't all about sunshine and rainbows. its a bloody hard job to do. Sometimes we all have incredible shifts where we think 'yep I love this job' then we have a bad experience which makes us say to ourselves' why am I putting myself through this'. But this is why we reflect. Having bad experiences makes us better practitioners, it helps us find answers and challenges when we reflect because it helps us realise what went wrong, why it went wrong and what I could do different in the future. Sometimes we honestly do need a bad experience to help us think. Im a student nurse in my final year, and ive had some bad experiences, some emotionally challenging ones, some morally challenging ones but ive also had some incredible ones and theyre the ones who keep be going. But reflect upon your bad experience, its great for self-awareness, for recognising your weaknesses and your strengths and ways you can change that which can better you and your practice. Keep going hun, you can do it.
@ter1133
@ter1133 2 жыл бұрын
Patricia. Did you end up being a nurse? 5 years ago I wanted to quit university so bad. Then I graduated 6 months later because I was mid 30's and felt stuck as to where to go next. Wanted to tear up the bachelor I received in the mail. Didn't go to graduation, I hated the whole institution. But I ended up going through motions of getting myself back up and now permanent in a great nursing job. Don't get me wrong. Yesterdays shift was thoroughly awful but the good outweighs the bad. And now I don't give a toss about some of the negative nursing 'personalities' we have to deal with. 🙃
@RanveigB
@RanveigB Жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Kathleen Bartholomew!! There are so many "take home messages" in your presentation!! One of them is a spot on description on how one of the most important core values in nursing is so ignored as a value in the New Public Managment system where healthcare is "industry" " .in the healthcare field, there is often a lack of recognition for important actions and services, such as the absence of a billing code for an elderly gentleman's grief. This leads to nurses devaluing themselves because their contributions are not given sufficient worth or cost. Instead, they are treated as something free and easily available"!
@annenguyen9759
@annenguyen9759 7 жыл бұрын
That is a truly outstanding speech. An eye opening speech :)!
@rejoice988
@rejoice988 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this talk. I needed this
@SusanHiggins
@SusanHiggins 5 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Bartholomew is amazing! It was an honor to hear her speak in person
@maggieortiz1546
@maggieortiz1546 2 жыл бұрын
The world needs to hear more from you! Nursing services need to be reflected on a bill and then they would have to see our value!
@lindabrown6545
@lindabrown6545 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is what nursing is about. A member of the patient team with each member critical to achieve positive outcomes for patients and their families!
@asfaw96
@asfaw96 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! An outstanding lesson and you are an outstanding speaker.
@dandylion7626
@dandylion7626 3 жыл бұрын
This is so incredibly accurate. I am a unit secretary and feel like I am respected by most of the nurses. Last week I happened to be in a patient's room when he coded and I called for help. He's alive so far. However the work atmosphere is definitely toxic. We all gossip about each other, staff, patients, and say things we would never say to anyone's face. I realize that it is a problem and needs to stop. Even just one person's attitude can affect a whole unit. The first time I was in treatment for anorexia, I sunk into the toxic, gossipy, and hopeless atmosphere of the unit. The second time I was hospitalized, I did everything within my power to spread an atmosphere of love, authenticity, and recovery. It made a difference and everyone benefited. Although I am shy and feel unimportant in the hierarchy of the hospital, I have to remind myself that I've done this before and can do it again. Tearing each other down does nothing for us nor for the lives of our patients. I am so unsure if I should be a nurse, but I wonder if my actions last week are a sign that I should be. I hate science though so if anyone has any tips that would be great 😅
@Ashley_villi16
@Ashley_villi16 2 жыл бұрын
6:17-6:25. this is what motivates me so much on becoming a nurse!
@catycannon4874
@catycannon4874 6 жыл бұрын
This is spot on. Great video.
@alyssamakesamigurumi
@alyssamakesamigurumi 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for sharing!
@BabsKBurke
@BabsKBurke 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this presentation. I've been concerned about safety as a nurse and you took safety as a nurse much deeper.
@patricialontocdpa
@patricialontocdpa 7 жыл бұрын
awesome...many points apply to other professions too
@avant412
@avant412 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thank You!!!
@TheMabes69
@TheMabes69 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing lady, amazing speech
@beverleychung-brown2784
@beverleychung-brown2784 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this very well done presentation bringing to light what really goes on within our nursing profession.
@kieuhoanhtran546
@kieuhoanhtran546 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I can deeply relate as a new nurse in the ICU.
@HDB112
@HDB112 3 жыл бұрын
So powerful. Thank you! I'm finishing nursing school in February, happy I saw this. ^ ^
@chilledmonkeybrains6199
@chilledmonkeybrains6199 4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent leader.
@justmeemi6350
@justmeemi6350 Жыл бұрын
„It was nowhere in my charting - it was free“ This is such an important line…
@primordialmeow7249
@primordialmeow7249 4 жыл бұрын
I retired as an RN 3 years ago. So happy to be out of it.
@myprettymess119
@myprettymess119 7 жыл бұрын
Inspiring!
@pandaslayer0
@pandaslayer0 6 жыл бұрын
Inspiring. Her and her lawyer
@catalinademoore189
@catalinademoore189 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation!
@DakotaCortez
@DakotaCortez 6 жыл бұрын
It's not about whose more important, it's about competence, skills and attitude in my book.
@ninaweber9941
@ninaweber9941 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! I agree whole heartedly! It is not as easy to gain the results you speak of on a daily basis. I was groomed with the attitude that everyone & their work was essential & my first chief of surgery would mop floors & transport patients. It took me 26yrs to write BSN behind my name because of peoples' attitudes. I will do anything to help make the unit work more efficiently.
@TheMabes69
@TheMabes69 4 жыл бұрын
SHE IS AWESOME
@sorrycharlie4561
@sorrycharlie4561 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful seminar!
@arzoo9221
@arzoo9221 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this speech!! I have applied for nursing at uni and will start next year. I has some other careers in mind and i couldn't maje a decision but u confirmed my decision of becoming a nurse
@caffeinatedprn1705
@caffeinatedprn1705 6 жыл бұрын
I love this 💗💗
@mariankemp9014
@mariankemp9014 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing and inspiring. Makes me wish I'd gone into nursing after all.
@LuciaRPerez
@LuciaRPerez 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!!
@autumnmeadows4079
@autumnmeadows4079 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, this was spot on.
@marlenevlotman7124
@marlenevlotman7124 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you x
@reckless8694
@reckless8694 5 жыл бұрын
She is very wise.
@Shootinforthestars1
@Shootinforthestars1 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah what an awesome talk, I could hear it in your voice how much this meant to you. Thank you for your vulnerability .😋
@akhilababu8231
@akhilababu8231 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent talk it is
@deniesekline-thatcher8380
@deniesekline-thatcher8380 3 жыл бұрын
Wow 🤩 Finally You Spoke Up! Thank You! I 🙏 Everyone who hears this will pass it on! Remember it only Takes a Spark to Keep AFire Going~~~
@LIFEmedicaltourismconsulting
@LIFEmedicaltourismconsulting 4 жыл бұрын
So touching! I am a nurse
@eunecelimbu2642
@eunecelimbu2642 6 жыл бұрын
👍excellent talk ma'am love you 💕
@ashleyhicks1278
@ashleyhicks1278 2 жыл бұрын
watching this as an LPN debating to go back for RN after the radonda vaught case….
@nursingtutor1014
@nursingtutor1014 3 жыл бұрын
This is ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO!!! thank you. :)
@nelbergemeres
@nelbergemeres Жыл бұрын
I just love this video
@jon782
@jon782 6 жыл бұрын
Many medical mistakes happen because of human factors. its more the culture than the heirarchy. Many airline accidents are the result of the captain and first officer not communicating properly. Either becaues the first officer is apprehensive to speak up and/or the captain is dismissive and treats their co-pilot badly. That is why they train to make sure they talk to each other and that subordinates input is welcomed and mandatory for saftey.
@miryjainalben3144
@miryjainalben3144 6 жыл бұрын
jon b there is a heirarchy in the aviation field. It is the heirarchy that creates the culture that causes the poor communication.
@speedofpee
@speedofpee 5 жыл бұрын
As amazing as nursing is as a profession, I would never make it an ultimatum that forces someone to be a nurse, especially if they don't know much about it. Through my career, I've known many nurses who hated their job. That hate becomes dangerous to patients and blocks the will to learn more about medicine. It is a tough job and it's really not for everyone. As with any career path, consider yourself lucky if you get to a point of loving what you do. Many nurses may never see that day.
@successnmecha8125
@successnmecha8125 3 жыл бұрын
Waw, inspiring
@cjm7764
@cjm7764 5 жыл бұрын
Now thats a good lawyer
@jacobdavis7441
@jacobdavis7441 5 жыл бұрын
ASMR overload
@lisakeefe3582
@lisakeefe3582 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@ewereoyeze5424
@ewereoyeze5424 5 жыл бұрын
I wish Nigeria nurses will learn this. Destroy the hierarchy among us.
@sdarcher3964
@sdarcher3964 4 жыл бұрын
Shes the real deal.
@hf_7353
@hf_7353 3 жыл бұрын
As a medical lab technologist. This hurts :( didn't know people think so little of us.
@ter1133
@ter1133 2 жыл бұрын
I thought she was referring to a ward tech or phlebotomist. But a lab tech (Pathology department) are viewed in high regard (imo). That being said phlebotomists are equally amazing and are able to get the difficult sticks I can't do.
@priyoyoyo924
@priyoyoyo924 5 жыл бұрын
Guys I left nursing bcos of Poor Adminstration.. let the doctors and administration do nurses work.. no point of fighting for this job!
@manelsousa8461
@manelsousa8461 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I have to agree :(
@brejarrells2266
@brejarrells2266 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@okotray4577
@okotray4577 5 жыл бұрын
Great
@jagk4459
@jagk4459 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. =)
@NurseJane
@NurseJane 2 жыл бұрын
🙏❤️
@msmithrandir561
@msmithrandir561 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad nursing supervisors have not watched this
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