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Let's Look at...MISSION Crossbows!
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3 жыл бұрынThe Quest for a Successor to Bunjie continues. In this episode we look at Mission Crossbows; specifically the Mission Sub-1 XR! No decisions yet, but this one is definitely attractive.
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This channel is about my love of the crossbow, hunting, and the outdoors. I hunt almost exclusively with the crossbow. I love it and I aim to help you love it, too!
Bunjie is a 2010 Excalibur Axiom Crossbow. After a decade of killing deer, hogs, squirrels--you name it!--with the "stock" 20" Easton Firebolt arrows, Bunjie experimented with heavy arrows during 2020 but has since decided to hunt with 20" ProFlight arrows from Easton, for a total arrow weight of just under 400 grains when tipped with a 100 grain Rage Crossbow Hypodermic Broadhead. This keeps old Bunjie around 300fps.
Bunjie, Jr., is my daughter Genevieve's crossbow, an Excalibur Micro Suppressor 355. She also shoots ProFlights (16.5" variety) with a 150 grain Rage Trypan Crossbow Broadhead, for a total arrow weight around 415 grains.
I am in the process of upgrading Bunjie in favor a more modern crossbow. I am looking to continue to perfect my preferred hunting strategies with a new crossbow by my side. That Quest for Bunjie's Successor should be complete by summer of 2021.
This channel is about my love of the crossbow, hunting, and the outdoors. I hunt exclusively with the crossbow. I love it. Sure, like a lot of kids, I started hunting with a good ol' Model '94 Winchester .30-30 back in the 80's, but drifted away from hunting when I went off to college, law school, and started a family. As my daughter got older, I regained my interest in the outdoors, and I consider myself lucky to hunt on the same property today that I hunted on as a kid. I got the Excalibur Axiom crossbow in 2010 and I haven't looked back. This channel is the result of combining my interest in filming and hunting...
...and music, too! My related channel, Yankee Militia, showcases my music. Some of the music is hunting-related, so check that out, too! The soundtrack for this channel is provided by my band, so the two are intertwined. The albums "Live Free or Kill" and "Zombies Gotta Eat, Too!" are available on Amazon.com and elsewhere. A third album is in the works.
All Hail Bunjie!
--Rich Wilson, Death by Bunjie
@mariusbuciuman307 3 жыл бұрын
This series is pretty awesome! Learning a lot about other xbows
@dualthreatoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is definitely the best one we’ve seen so far that you’ve featured. Definitely a final 4 candidate! Agree 1000% with you on quivers!!! I always get a 6 arrow quiver for my compound! You can never have too many!
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
One time I used 4 arrows over the course of one hunt. I seem to remember using three once or twice as well but that was in a state where I could shoot more than one deer, without having to recover the first/second. I dont like a quiver on the bow (due to weight) and I sure wouldn't want more arrows in a quiver, if I was keeping it on the bow. I remember Rich shooting 3 arrows one time (spine shot) and it didnt do him any good, because there was an error that was equipment or user related. A 4th arrow wouldn't have changed that outcome IMO. One shot, One kill. Keep them close, prepare the shot and you wont need but 1 arrow in PA. Maryland? .... so far, 2 arrows would have sufficed. ;)
@dualthreatoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
@@leveraction767 lol yes good points there I just like to be prepared for any situation and have extra hunting arrows ready to go increase I break or lose one on a shot and am hunting later that day. Not much heavier on my bow either.
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
@@dualthreatoutdoors I cannot remember the weight but I do remember weighing my quiver back in the 90's (IBO days) and it was not light and it was effecting my balance, with an open hand/high wrist grip. Took it off back then and have used a hip quiver ever since. Hip quivers are not all sunshine & butterflies either but the bow is lighter and less off center. All that said... I am basing my opinion on my experience, which was primarily formed in a competitive atmosphere. Certainly, I am not saying this is how it has to be across the board. If you are compensating balance/weight without effort then it is a moot point for those individuals who do keep a quiver on the bow.
@fishinghuntingfool 3 жыл бұрын
One arrow should be enough ,99%of the time !
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Does the twinstrike come with 2 quivers? 😄
@walteastling6685 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot the mission Sub1 and everything they claim is 100% correct. We have even changed my brothers string in the field with no problems and he also shoots the sub1. After changing the string we were still with in 2 inches of the bullseye after and just had to fine tune it.
@jaydoggie8379 3 жыл бұрын
This is the crossbow you should buy. The rope cocking fits your style and you can always buy the crank if you want. Hawke optics are excellent. I have the XB1 on my center point 370. Very easy to get sighted in and hold accuracy year after year. I've harvested many deer with this setup.
@lawrencecardente533 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest that you go on the archery talk website and check out the cross bow forum which gives you opinions of crossbow users rather than manufacturer propaganda.
@cwpres 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice to add it to the short list! I like mission crossbows.
@johnowens9012 3 жыл бұрын
probably the best looking crossbow that you’ve reviewed thus far. i think this may be the one.
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
Never enjoyed a review by someone that’s never shot the bow before but think you did a great job here. 👍
@paulnirschl6500 3 жыл бұрын
I just traded my Ravin R10 for the mission Sub1. The Ravin is a supper bow but has become a maintenance nightmare, string life is only 50-100 shots on average. Never really cared for the quiver and the way it attached but as with most there is a trade off. The safety just sucks, too small for gloved hands. The Sub1 only draw back as compared to the Ravin is it’s a little wider and heavier. The mission is much more durable and has a much better warranty, lifetime vs. only 5 years for the Ravin. Happy I made the switch back to Mission.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Glad happy with it, all good points. They're top notch for sure!
@paulnirschl6500 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie I just finished my sight in and can say I’m very impressed with the complete package and no complaints. I may however invest in the removable cocking device because I think it will be easier in the tree stand vs. the rope cocker. All said and done this is by far the best one of all those I tried, the performance and simplicity made this my top choice.
@peterpoel1019 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a sub1 XR for two years and killed two deer with it Rich. Extremely flat shooting complete platform (I did add the foot stir up which I highly recommend) and great fit and finish. Decocking works as advertised and no bow press needed. I’ve had excellent string and cable wear. You will not be dissatisfied with this in the deer woods. I also understand that mission/Mathews has superior service and guarantee from my local shop
@jenniferrobinson5813 3 жыл бұрын
I read the 2019 Mission Owners manual. One thing to note is that Mission recommends using aluminum nocks. The manual also states that any damage to the bow caused by using plastic nocks will void the warranty. Kind of strange since right on the Mission website are plastic lighted nocks for use with their bows. Speaking of lighted nocks, they got terrible reviews. This isn't isolated to Mission, however. Ravin and TenPoint are equally as bad. I can personally attest to the hair pulling frustration caused by using lighted alpha nocks (TenPoint's proprietary nocks).
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
Dont need lighted nocks for filming. Back in the day, people dipped their shafts white and they showed up just fine, even on that grainy old 8mm film. Dont need lighted nocks to find a white arrow either.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Jennifer: I read some of those, too! Not sure it's folks not understanding how to use lighted nocks or if the manufacturer's nocks are different bit that does concern me a bit. I did not read manual, wow, odd, since they happily sell arrows with lighted nocks on their site that APPEAR to be plastic! Are there lighted nocks available that are framed in aluminum I wonder?
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Lever Action: scourge thing about filming, at 400 fps I bet arrow is not on the screen as long a at 300 fps. I will be interested to see difference. I do have white pro flights I can cut down, we'll see. But man I like my lighted nocks... that's almost in the"do the same thing only better"category for me!
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie I have not gone to the site to read BUT... I am assuming that (like others) what is meant, is that using anything other than their nocks will void warranty. I would imagine that one (aluminum) was being spoken directly to and that in speaking directly to this one nock, they failed to mention the other option. Certainly they cannot refuse warranty on a nock that they also recommend for the same arrow/bow. Proof reading is something the factories dont seem to do nearly as well as they build bows. ;)
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie I hear you. I run lighted nocks BUT.... You and I and others (tons of people) have had them not light and/or blow out of the shaft on impact (happens with high energy bows) and then what? I like the fact that a white shaft isnt going to have these issues and if nothing else, the white shaft backs up the lighted nock, when that nock fails.
@eddiekytia 3 жыл бұрын
If you can afford to stay with excalibur you really should! 360TD or the 420TD with built in crank, in my opinion the excalibur will LAST WAY LONGER WITH WAY LESS PROBLEMS
@moderndaydrifter4672 3 жыл бұрын
The suppressor 400td would be a great fit as well.
@driftlesshunter9200 3 жыл бұрын
Mission has a lifetime warranty is extremely well made. Cocking is so easy a crank is not necessary. I rope cocked one yesterday. It wasn't hard to cock. The Excalibur Mag 340 was harder to rope cock. No press needed to change string on Mission, too.
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
@@driftlesshunter9200 Correct on all counts. I am an Excal guy but these #300+ limb weights are just ridiculous and Rich has repeatedly said, he hates the Excal cranks.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
I rope cocked a micro 355 Suppressor, 285lb draw weight once...ONCE... LOL 🤣
@moderndaydrifter4672 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie I did the same with my 360td,just once. Having the crank isn't so bad for us guys that are getting older.
@waynegardner8424 3 жыл бұрын
The mission sub-1 kit comes with 250 gr. arrows. I bought the 300 gr. arrows from mission and on ebay.
@jeffsites2428 3 жыл бұрын
After a year long crossbow search I ended up with Sub 1 for many of the reasons you describe. I'm a hunter. It has worked great for me the past two seasons. When I had the opportunity to shoot one at the bow shop, I knew that was the one.
@mikevogt6070 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, once shot this one at the bow shop it was all I needed to know, I was sold on it. It took me almost 2 years of looking into different crossbows, doing my homework and all and I finally got the Sub 1 and have zero regrets.
@Bowfella 3 жыл бұрын
Loving this series to keep the channel going. I remember when we had to go 4 months without Bunjie till Turkey season 🥺
@jasonpatterson947 3 жыл бұрын
Spokesman for the Mission crossbow is a great man and friend of mine.
@bobbyanderson7233 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking that the Mission is definitely the way to go. Very impressive.
@panamericaadventures7464 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I’ve been waiting for you to check out the Mission. I own 3 crossbows, a PSE Vector 310, a Killer Instinct Furious Pro 9.5 and a Mission Sub 1 XR. I have to say the Sub 1 is by far my favorite. From the draw to the launch, the smoothness of this bow is incredible. The 80% let off makes cocking very easy and the trigger is as nice as any rifle I own. Its a well balanced bow that is more accurate than my other 2. I’m looking forward to watching you try it for yourself, it impressed me and I’ll bet you like it as much. In fact, I told my wife as we watched your video that the Mission Sub 1 XR will be next crossbow. Can’t wait to see if I’m right. Keep ‘em coming!
@boomerrangerron 3 жыл бұрын
Another thorough and interesting analysis video Rich! This Mission Sub 1 X needs to make the top three on your short list! Matthews compound bow manufacturer makes the Mission and they’re highly respected for sure. Bowtech makes the Excalibur line so that’s a consideration. Hope you’re getting close to the field test phase as your fans are all waiting with baited breath,🎯
@dccajc1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you know im a mission xbow junkie. Best crossbow content on the web thanks so much!!!!!!
@jeffstuut4226 3 жыл бұрын
Great crossbow bought the regular Sub one last spring and it is a tac driver just remember speed isn’t everything mine is shooting 369 FPS with black eagle executioners
@minivox7094 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't look at these much when I was shopping for my new bow last year. I'm only about 3/4 of the way though the video and it sounds like this Mission crossbow has more upgraded features that parallel your favorite parts of Bunjie than any of the other crossbows you've done videos on so far. I was looking forward to the Ten Point video at some point but this one might be the one!
@frankhopkins7032 3 жыл бұрын
Now I have to admit I really like this one! If I was in the market this one would be a serious consideration!!
@davidgrilliot4942 3 жыл бұрын
i absolutely love my sub-1 XR!! I am kinda excited to see a sub-1 XR as a contender for the next bunjie!
@chucksmith5002 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you checked it out . Wished I could have afforded it back when I bought my Crossbow .
@raymondcava4669 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich thank you again for informative crossbow video. I’m not looking to replace my ex calibur vortex crossbow but it is entertaining watching you go through the process of researching you’re next crossbow.
@scottprewett6860 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you to try this crossbow
@resistthesystem6145 3 жыл бұрын
Best cross bow I’ve ever owned!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
First! LOL!!!
@joelmcmahan7386 3 жыл бұрын
You beat everyone, it’s like you knew what time it was coming out. I think someone has a friend on the inside. All hail Bunjie and Bunjie jr. and their pal Rich. Gods speed to Death by Bunjie
@1digitalwatcher697 3 жыл бұрын
You have ESP !
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
This is the bow I believe will serve you best (for compounds) but if you want the fastest (same good stuff) it's still the Scorpyd. I will say... You did this video so well, I want to run out and get a XR LOL!
@davemeise2192 3 жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY agree with the Scorpyd Crossbows idea. I want one, hopefully this summer, for fall hunting. :-)
@jenniferrobinson5813 3 жыл бұрын
Scorpyd requires the use of a crank sold separately in order to decock the bow. That's the only issue I see since he would like to be able to uncock his bow without having to shoot it or resort to a crank.
@haydenclubb1547 3 жыл бұрын
You actually opened my eyes to what’s really out there. I shoot a killer instinct and love it but it’s 2 years old and these xbows have really came a long way. Love the vids. They are informational for all!
@kevinchapman4208 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for looking at the sub-1!! I hope when you do try it out you will enjoy it! 😊
@driftlesshunter9200 3 жыл бұрын
I was having the strings/cables replaced on my compound bow this week. This particular archery shop carries Ravin, Ten Point, Mission, & Excalibur. I spent some time when the owner while his top tech guy was setting up my bow. I went in being most interested in Ten Point & Excalibur, but I left being most impressed with Mission crossbows. Even though they were well stocked with Ravin & Ten Point crossbows, you could tell they had a huge well earned bias for Mission. If they were to shoot a crossbow, it would be a Mission. This is coming from two guys that run a very busy archery shop. I cocked & shot a crossbow for the very first time, & it was the Mission. Very easy to rope cock/decock. Very solid crossbow with a warranty second to none. I believe Mission values accuracy over speed. If I was buying a $1,500-2,000 crossbow, Mission would be on my list. I also rope cocked/shot the Excalibur Mag 340. Considering it's about $1,000-1,200 (depending on model you are comparing) cheaper than the Mission, the Mag 340 was a very solid package. For what's it's worth, the crossbows they repair the most are ones (Barnett) they don't sell.
@huntingupland 2 жыл бұрын
To correct you, the MXB360 was MISSION’s flagship crossbow which came out in 2012. I own an MXB320 which I purchased in 2015 and it shoots phenomenally!
@Deathbybunjie 2 жыл бұрын
But they don't sell that now, do they?
@huntingupland 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie No they don’t. They now only offer the Sub 1 series.
@SuperSYMPATHIZER 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this design. Excalibur no longer has life time warranty. I have micro suppressor and equinox. Equinox way bigger. But more accurate and a lot louder but no problems killing. But I’m going to keep watching your reviews. But I think this one might be it. Waiting for ten points review. Your doing great 👍🏻 on these reviews.
@jeremyparkin9654 3 жыл бұрын
I have hunted with the Sub-1 for two seasons. They are an excellent crossbow. The safety is easily used while aiming. Cocking and decocking is super smooth, in fact I personally think it’s way more convenient than a cocking aid. My only complaint is I hunt in very cold climates and larger boots are a little tricky when cocking. Accuracy is excellent! The Hawke scope I love especially the yard marked crosshairs out to 100yds. Hopefully this is moderately helpful. Awesome channel!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
I can live without colder weather lol 😆 but seriously that crossed my mind, might as big stirrup for late season?
@WildAboutBeingOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you looked at the SUB-1.. You will love it . That trigger is sweet. I believe it's the best trigger on any crossbow. I have last year model .I use the same broadhead as you. It's already dialled in rite out of the Box. 👍🏻. Good luck RICH !!!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, good luck!
@guystuff7942 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I both hunt with Mission crossbows. She has the Sniper Lite and I (5'11") have the Charge. Hunting buddy (6'3") uses the sub-1. All excellent crossbows with good features. They look sweet too!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Agree I like the looks
@bradbo3 3 жыл бұрын
Your facial expression and tone makes it look like THIS one may be the front runner. I have a mission compound....made by Mathews...they are really good.
@aubreyowen5146 3 жыл бұрын
I have a mission compound and its great
@peterpoel1019 3 жыл бұрын
Me three! Great 👍🏻 bows
@delmisbrown9675 3 жыл бұрын
Me 4 love mine
@jamescastania291 Жыл бұрын
The Mathew mission is balanced by holding the bow by the forearm. If you hold the crossbow with one hand gripping the forearm, the bow is balanced. Some crossbows I held was front heavy.
@vaazig 3 жыл бұрын
At some point I thought you were milking this series, but it's really informative for someone who's new to crossbows. It's not even legal to hunt with them in the UK unfortunately, but it's still interesting.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm trying to make each one different
@robertandrews33 3 жыл бұрын
I own one of these Rich (Sub 1 XR) great bow. I suggest using 500 plus grain arrows. Very quiet and very accurate.
@lstownley 3 жыл бұрын
Mission XR is a good quality bow. Spec wise though, the "Up To" rating of 410 fps is with a 340gr arrow. I've seen chrono readings of 382-386 fps with 400gr arrow. If your OK with that, then this bow offers a lot of other nice features you may find more suitable for your style of hunting/ shooting. (I just don't like the "Up To" speed ratings manufacturers use because it's rarely achieved.) Good luck in your continuing search for an upgrade to Bunjie.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I will have to look closely at those arrows
@twooldguyswithcrossbows5170 3 жыл бұрын
Couple for your check list is perhaps Wicked Ridge and Rocky Mountain and of course the Ravin lines of crossbows. Loving this journey series thanks for taking us along and I am sure whatever you decide will make you very happy! 😉
@JohnTomasella 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely should be in the testing crossbows, I've heard good things about Mission.
@terrypacker1192 6 ай бұрын
Love you're video because of your straight forward information ! You opened my eyes to things from all manufacturers !! I will continue to watch when you put out videos , if I could give you a observation ! I have trouble with your talking with your hands so much , so I mostly listen & look away ! Just saying
@waynepatton689 3 жыл бұрын
I like that xbow. Couple things that stand out is the warranty and the width. Mission is a Mathews brand so it’s a well established company and I imagine they’ll be around for a while. I have a couple Mathews vertical bows and they are superb.
@SuperChloeGymnast 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich, as you know I’m a diehard Excalibur fan but this bow definitely has my interest! The 30” overall length and adjustable stock is great along with the cocking/decocking along with it being able to be disassembled in the field with no bow press...wow pretty cool. Think you will be hard pressed to find a bow with better features for the money than this one. I also see the bow comes with a Hawke XB-1 scope...I upgraded my Excalibur scope to this model when I purchased it and gotta tell you it’s been a fantastic crossbow scope! The Reticle is very easy and intuitive to use and has both red and green illumination. I’ve used it for 2 seasons now and have killed some great deer with it right through the Vital V! It has held its accuracy poi perfectly! You made me wanna get one!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Thats good to hear, especially about the scope, wondered about that one
@SuperChloeGymnast 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rich, thought I’d mention you got me searching and comparing myself the big “5” crossbow manufacturers...Ravin, 10 point, Excalibur, Mission, and Barnett. I came across a couple articles by Peterson’s Hunting “field tested: Crossbows that kill” and “Ranking the 5 best crossbows for 2020”. Chris Larsen was the tester. I was surprised but not really that one brand stood above the rest in the “Accuracy” department... I’ll let you guess who it was! Mmmm
@rollingthunder7254 3 жыл бұрын
Sub1 is a Great Bow.Lot of ASA shooters weapon of choice.DeadlyAccurate,and well built.
@waynegardner8424 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich. I shoot a sub-1. I'm using the 300 gr. arrows with a 125 gr. rage nc broadhead. It chronos at 385 fps. and shoots quarter sized groups at 40 yds. Excellent crossbow!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@willwilliam217 9 ай бұрын
Ordered the sub 1 with pro package yesterday. This should be quite a upgrade from my 4 yr old bear kronicle $299 package. Hoping it will outlast me, I am in my late 60’s.
@Deathbybunjie 9 ай бұрын
Sounds good, I wish you the best of luck!
@robertandrews33 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the Matthews bow quiver will fit this bow and comes in a 4 and 5 arrow quiver. But they are proud of them at $160 or so
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Proud of them 😆I hear that!!
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
I find holding a7-8lbs steady to shoot off hand difficult with my air rifle so, tend to use a bipod, be interested to hold one of these and figure out where the balance point is. If the bulk of that weight is on the front think I’d struggle. This is why I Had been looking at ten points reverse draw bows because the mass is further back and crazy compact probably easier to keep steady. Or perhaps I should just join a gym 😂
@Deathbybunjie Жыл бұрын
Lol these crossbows are used to win a lot of freehand competitions so they must be doing something right
@RayEvangelista70 3 жыл бұрын
You have a pleasant surprise coming your way when you upgrade past 400fps... The front side shoulder blade will break if you hit it. There is also a good chance you will break the back side one if you hit it after going through the deer. The down side is that the arrows have so much momentum that it can be hard to find them when hunting out of a blind. When I killed my first bear with my R29 I found the arrow about 50 yards away. You might need to rethink some of your blinds so you have a backdrop the arrows can go into.
@hunt-cookravin29x49 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with a Mathews Sub-1! It will be my second crossbow I’m going to buy next an addition to my ravin r29x.
@jasondavis48108 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've narrowed my next Xbow down to the Sub-1 or the Excal micro 360TD. I'm currently running the 308 short and love it but wouldn't mind some extra speed.
@reformationcatapults9283 3 жыл бұрын
I would still rather have the simplicity of an Excalibur but if you go for a compound then this is definitely the best I've seen so far.
@tonykitchen7247 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rich I went back and looked at the specs. It shows this crossbow axle to axle cocked is 9.1" and 12.5" axle to axle unlocked. If you roughly add about 1.5"x2=3" to cover from the axle to outside cam should give you a rough overall width of the crossbow. I learned this when I was shooting a compound and just crossed it over to my new crossbow era. I have seen where you have asked about the overall width in several videos and thought it might help you in your search. Good luck, Tony Kitchen
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Cool I was guessing like 15 uncocked, pretty tiny compared to 36" Bunjie 😆
@donwilson350 3 жыл бұрын
You know Rick on this video here the best two crossbows that you looked at out of the selection of crossbows that you looked at was the Raven and this crossbow right here out of the bunch
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
"Best" is in the eye of the beholder lol
@donwilson350 3 жыл бұрын
No I really like to go with the facts Rick and history
@HuntStewTV 3 жыл бұрын
Take a look at the Tenpoint Havoc and Tenpoint Seige. Bad dudes.
@greenbudzzz 3 жыл бұрын
"It was so close...it wasn't close at all" had me dying on the will it moose test lol.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Lol they all pretty much moose 🤣
@greenbudzzz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie btw thanks for the content rich. You actually had alot to do with me getting into crossbows. I bought a wicked ridge warrior a few years back after watching some of your videos and just upgraded to a mission sub 1 last week. Just wanna say thanks to you and bunjie!
@bokkenwielderful 3 жыл бұрын
I chronographed my Axiom with a 625 grain arrow slowed it to 250 fps. And the momentum was .69, less than the mission with a much lighter arrow. So, basically what you said.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, nothing "wrong" either way, it's all tradeoffs, old Bunjie (and yours 😉) have pluses like simplicity and long life that newer ones can't offer!
@albertjodoin5864 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the xr and love it. I'm shooting the125 grain grim reaper and with the extra 25 grains make this Xbox quiet. As a matter of fact I shot two deer in one sit out of the same herd.
@rongarofalo3482 3 жыл бұрын
So far I am liking the Mission more than the others.
@CharlieEchoCharlie 3 жыл бұрын
All hail bunjie, can't wait for the testing phase...
@grege8716 3 жыл бұрын
There you nailed it; you want your existing hunting method to be ‘Even Better Accuracy’!!? (16:00)
@bylek5000 3 жыл бұрын
I have a mission sniper, very accurate.
@righthandy6526 3 жыл бұрын
looks like this one has all the features you are looking for--looks like it will be a shooter-time will tell
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
Lot of the top podium places go to folks using a sub 1 definitely says something about it’s accuracy. They shoot a lot of bolts so the fact it’s easy to cock by hand probably helps to. Whether it’s the best for hunting that’s a different question, obviously accuracy is important and there definitely built tough but I guess noise levels and manoeuvrability I don’t know how it compares. I like Excalibur because they’re easy maintenance but recurves aren’t known for been quiet! Think with the high end companies there all good, so it’s just a matter of taste. That’s my 10cents anyway
@Deathbybunjie Жыл бұрын
👍🏻 I agree they make different kinds for a reason
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie think I'm steering towards the sub1xr but kinda curious what comes next from mission that one was 2019 so surely we're due a new line. You heard any rumours?
@Deathbybunjie Жыл бұрын
@@eyesintheskies I have not heard any rumors, but I have heard people wondering the same thing. It seems they would have released something in January of this year if they were going to release something for this season. So I think we're going to have to wait another year!
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie well I was thinking 2024 because a new line every 5 years just seems like a thing. Thanks for the reply though & your informative channel 🤣
@chickimac1 2 жыл бұрын
Mathews makes awesome products. I love their compounds and actually own a V3 27, that is getting jealous of my Excalibur 340mag lol
@paulhord1099 3 жыл бұрын
Yea u can get a 4 or 5 arrow quiver from mathews. Mathews makes mission crossbows
@timroof9338 3 жыл бұрын
I have had 2 mission... the dagger and the sub1.. they are great bows but i wanted a more narrow axle to axle..
@anvil49 3 жыл бұрын
HI Rick! Love the vids and comparisons. Maybe some of these companies would send you your bow of choice to do a hands on..test.
@aubreyowen5146 3 жыл бұрын
i have a wicked ridge rdx 400 and im happy with it. 100yds? i have no idea cuz im not gonna shoot past 40-maybe 50 yds. its plenty fast enough to kill.
@techstuf4637 3 жыл бұрын
Can't beat the 410fps Barnett Hyper Whitetail at 499 right now at Cabela's, for the money.... Including crank, trigger tech trigger, and micro diameter bolts.
@1digitalwatcher697 3 жыл бұрын
The more you show the more I know , its interesting investigate as many as you can ! ( do them cams look delicate? thin ) oh.. almost forgot THUMBS UP
@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын
The u.k only has about 2 shops in the whole country so the fact you can change the string at home is a massive plus. Never considered compounds for that reason so this has opened up a whole new word. 😃 How much quieter are they compared to recurves?
@Deathbybunjie Жыл бұрын
Not all compounds are created equal either, the Ravins seem pretty loud compared to some of the others, but these missions and the Scorpyd and even the tenpoints are pretty quiet
@isaacheidi 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. I own the sub 1 so obviously I think you need to buy the sub 1. I've heard the xr has had some problems with keeping things as accurate as the basic sub 1.
@MB-fk5ip Жыл бұрын
I just ordered one of these after shooting a friend of mines. I am wondering if he ever got to shoot one before buying the scorpid and if there were any reasons why he didn't get the mission
@Deathbybunjie Жыл бұрын
If you're wondering about me, yes we shot this mission, Genevieve and I both did, and one reason was the loud safety and another reason was that the safety jammed up on us at the shop while we were trying it out
@Davidandsons 3 жыл бұрын
I have bought a couple of crossbow's and for the money the industry is charging.... I bought a center point mercenary 390 with no complaint.. with cost or accuracy.. but ????.. it's always a debate of which is better so I have my opinion....
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
I think it only matters what is better FOR YOU and YOUR hunting style. Same for me.
@paulhord1099 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the sub 1 xr last year and absolutely love it very safe cross bow easy to cock and uncock looking to purchasing the RSD hand crank
@rcdad2 3 жыл бұрын
The mission is noticeable quieter than the other bows I have tried.
@sbanks1027 3 жыл бұрын
yes u can get a 6 arrow quiver
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Thats great to know!
@tythomps 3 жыл бұрын
Good one Rich. Figured you would be getting to Mission soon, they seem like they align with your method well. One thing to not, Mission doesn't do their speed rating with their factory weight 400gr arrows though. It's actually hidden but I'm trying to remember from cbn forum that it is either 325gr or 375gr that the Sub-1 XR shoots 410 fps. And I'm pretty sure it's 325gr that get it to 410 fps. It'll still easily moose, but just thought you'd like to know.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Yep thanks, gonna be around 380 fps with 450grain
@robertandrews33 3 жыл бұрын
Stand to the side of this bow and listen to it when someone else shoots it. I think you will be impressed on how quiet it truly is
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
So I hear! will shoot soon
@loulage941 3 жыл бұрын
I know they use special aluminum knocks with there arrows.
@stevenhicks815 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of just the regular sub 1’s would it last long and a lot of shots
@Deathbybunjie Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah they have a reputation for accuracy and Lasting a long time, I'd like to see them come out with new models that are a bit faster though
@stevenhicks815 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie maybe they got it figured out and realize t certain point to many problems
@kotklegg3367 3 жыл бұрын
Rich, you should take a serious look at the Excalibur assassin 400 TD. With those new beefed up limbs it looks like it’s going to be an awesome crossbow!! It’s also around the same price range as your mission sub one xr. Plus it would just be sacrilegious to name any other brand of Crossbow Bunjie II.
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
Hand cocking isnt going to be likely with the 400. Could Rich do it? sure. Would Rich want to cock a 325# crossbow? Unlikely.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
We shall see, I am still looking at Excalibur but I like the rope cocker for sure...
@kotklegg3367 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathbybunjie I’ve got the Bulldog 400, and I can cock it with the rope with no problem, and I’ve had three spine surgeries and four shoulder surgeries. It’s not as bad as the draw weight sounds, but the new Assassin 400 TD is a different story! You would have to be the hulk to cock that beast with a rope, and that’s the very reason I don’t have one!! I’m sure whatever you decide to go with will be an awesome crossbow. I do believe the Bulldog 400 was the last of the rope cocking Mohicans as far as Excalibur goes. Good luck brother!!
@bryanerdy8144 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Will you increase your own personal range limits (40ish yards) out to (100yards)? Or close to what your new crossbow will shoot?
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
No... my current range is 30 with Bunjie but would probably do 40 with a new one at 400fps or so
@williamhansen8910 3 жыл бұрын
Do one of these on the barnet hyper ghost 405 or 425
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
I did the Hypertac 420, all for now on Barnett
@ee222 3 жыл бұрын
the mission video mentioned this x-bow giving 100yds @ sub-1". should you get this x-bow, would that allow you the opportunity to try greater hunting distances than you would with bunjie or are you hard and fast @ holding to your current max distance of 40-45yds (?? i'm guessing here) regardless as to which x-bow you will be getting? LOVE this series BTW!
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
With bunjie I'm 30 yards max, any new crossbow around 400fps I am probably willing to look at 40 maybe 45, depends
@kevinasbery6119 3 жыл бұрын
My Center Point Sniper 370 came with a 4 bolt quiver and 3 bolts. 🤷🏻♂️ Oh well. I still like it though.
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Thats funny though lol
@joshblainer2652 3 жыл бұрын
Not to keep pushing my crossbow on you but my centerpoint amped 415 has a 4 arrow quiver
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet!!
@lloydieworld 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't hear on this one was the MSRP????
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
I think 1800, I'm gonna pick one out and THEN figure out how to pay for it lol
@mikeedwards2384 3 жыл бұрын
Yep I see a mission in the future lol
@loulage941 3 жыл бұрын
Good crossbow i would do research on trigger there are some thoughts out there.
@leveraction767 3 жыл бұрын
I get the "hard hitting" because K.E. (not a great measurement but used as one) is and has been a huge draw. In fact... Many people (like me) dont believe most bows have anywhere near the energy that I want, out of the box. Then there is Rich who wants pass throughs and is seeking "hard hitting". Now here is the thing that Mission is addressing with two words. Many people have attempted increasing energy by adding speed or adding weight to the arrow. Both of these additions generally subtract from accuracy (in different ways) although not always. That (not always) said... The proof is in the pudding and advancing speed/arrow weight is generally taking away from accuracy and about every manufacturer and professional shooter can/do speak to this fact. So... Mission is saying (IMO) we have it both. They deliver a good amount of energy with unchallenged accuracy. They are just being concise in stating an obvious, once the evidence is examined. Yes? I say yes. LOL
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good to me!
@frederickbierweiler8020 3 жыл бұрын
why do you need more than 3 arrows? i took the quiver off my cross bow as i have not needed more than one arrow. just asking cause im a curious person
@Deathbybunjie 3 жыл бұрын
I've shot two deer in one sit before, day will come when I shoot three I hope. One might require followup shot. Who knows? But I like 4 lol.
@berniesterwerf1257 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the misson xr myself
@cmfoutdoors44 3 жыл бұрын
Ten point request#2