*I was one of the people who ran the first BBS in NYC, starting in 1976: "Modem Over Manhattan", or "M*O*M" for short. The earlier BBS's did NOT have hard drives, which were **_incredibly_** expensive, as well as huge, power hungry, and up to 100 pounds back then. We used 4 floppy drives when we started (which was considered **_huge_** at the time), and nobody (including us) had more than one line until roughly 1979 or 1980.*

Honestly wasn't expecting a video about creating a BBS to include one of the most comprehensive explanations of containers I've ever seen on youtube

everyone always asks "y modem" but never "how modem" and i'm glad you're here to teach them.

I think you'd be surprised at the size of the overlap here, as a lot of us that started on BBSes are now the people building and running these Kubernetes environments.

I'm the lead engineer for google cloud at a well known retailer here in the UK, in charge of GKE (Googles kubernetes offering) and was looking to escape k8s, low and behold you've managed to shoe horn it in to a retro video. I take my hat off to you good sir, and `kubectl delete ns kube-system` as a personal attack

To avoid theft, my school in the 1980s let the kids take home BBC Micros across holidays. I borrowed one of them, plus a CUB monitor, and a modem. And I accessed Prestel from home. It's hard to explain to anybody nowadays how amazing this was. I mean, it was like gaining a superpower. Suddenly, the home computer could break out of the four walls of the home. It was no longer a dumb bit of beige plastic. Its blinkers were removed. It could see for miles. Alas, I couldn't log into Prestel because I didn't have a username (school had one but it was a closely-guarded secret). However, I did figure out how to access other services, and download some programs... Again, this was just mind-blowing at the time. Programs. Free. You just download it. What?!? No tape required. No typing in a listing from a magazine.

watching the software stack piling up docker, Kubernetes, Ceph etc for such a small workload: i am convinced RetroBytes is pulling a prank on us.

What was funny about those BBS was that most of them were operated by individuals and it happened often that they closed after a few months. There was no search engine back then to find BBS that were reachable locally (ie no long distance calls). What I had at the time was a list of BBS that was compiled by a local computer store. The problem is that this list was grossly outdated and I can’t remember how many times that while trying to reach a BBS in the middle of the night I would ear someone answer the phone just before the modem sent a loud sync tone. This happened when the phone company would reassign a phone number that was formerly used by a BBS. Every weekend this would happen 4 or 5 times, that I accidentally wake up a random person that was unlucky enough to get one of those phone numbers that were previously used by a BBS.

I ran a BBS called "Boondocks" back in the day. It had an Amiga, Console, and an AscII section. IF I'm not mistaking, the board had a C64 section also. It ran on 6 nodes eventually. It started with a USR 14K4 HST and eventually each node ran on a USRobotics Dual Standard v34 56k. I had the time of my life back then running the BBS. People from all over the world called constantly and within no time it became (one of) the fastest board(s) in the world. Poeple called with Calling Cards, Credit Cards, PBXs, BlueBoxing and/or hacked lines, and many foreigners even called normally because they wanted to download/upload a release as fast as possible. Man, those days were the best days in my life. I miss it so very much.

Ohhhhhh memories. I owned Dynasty Online in Orlando, Florida (FidoNet 1:363/1000) back in the 90s (My first BBS I started in 1980) .... second largest in the world. At its peak we had 197 incoming lines. We were second only to one BBS that was larger by a FEW phone lines and that was EXEC-PC.

I actually wrote my own email system with backend and client in quick basic, with a fidonet and internet email gateway, and the emails + client were then distributed on floppy disks to the users in my school. Every day I would process people's mails and generate new disks.

Your "Let's get modern" chapter should be extracted as a stand-alone video. It's hands-down the best intro to Docker video I've seen.

I still remember the day that I was dialing into BBS'es with a 2400 baud modem when I was a kid. It was a magical time and I am glad I actively lived through that era.

I never ran a large BBS but I ran several smaller ones. My first was running on a color computer with two floppies. I swore back then that I invented the linked list as that’s what I used to store messages. That was in jr high. In high school, I had a color computer 3, and ran os/9 so I could have a BBS running while still using my computer. I also had a small hard drive but it wasn’t large and was very slow. In college I ran that same BBS but with a larger and faster hard drive. I also had access to our Vax which had access to Bitnet. I wrote a Fidonet interface to upload bundles to the Vax and send them as files over Bitnet. This made it possible to participate with others with Bitnet access. Suddenly my little node had free access to the world. All fifteen users were thrilled. :)

I ran a BBS on my C64 with a 300 baud modem... that evolved into a MUD, on two 386 computers running Linux, with four phone lines and four 14400 baud US Robotics modems. So many great memories.

I used to run a BBS back in the 90s. I was there for when the fancy new "Information Highway" (aka Internet) was rolled out widely across New Zealand when the national telecom finally started to offer a dialup service. Within three months BBS went from 200+ connections a day to maybe 1 or 2 connections. To be fair I'd become quite enthralled with the Internet too.

My first taste of the internet was through a BBS! One BBS system I used had a section for accessing various internet things like email, newgroups, and internet relay chat (IRC). It needed compatible BBS client software that allowed the internet protocol to pass through to other DOS programs that used those services. This was before the world wide web service started on the internet, not long before though, I'm not THAT old! 😛 I started using BBS's late in their lifespan a few years after I got my first PC and was fully employed as a programmer. I did not bother with them in my Spectrum and Atari ST days as modems back then were expensive. A few years ago I tried running an old school BBS on my PC that's accessed through the internet. It worked but I lost interest in it once it was working fine.

I ran two BBSes in the late 80s, early 90s. ANSI graphics, message forums. I loved EXEC-PC for their huge file collection. I think you can still telnet to them for the old experience. My first experience was around 1980 where a computer company I worked for ran FORUM-80 which ran on a TRS-80 Model II.

Yessssss!! Awesome stuff. Just to make you all laugh, us radio amateurs still run BBSs - AX.25 packet on 145MHz(ish). Most people stull use gear from the 80s... the classic Baycom modem chip is everywhere. 1200 baud FSK baby ;)

One of the best things about Demon was that we gave everyone a static IP, which made it great for hosting stuff like this when dial-up Internet took over. I had multiple telnet servers, mail servers and staff-only newsgroups running from my bedroom!

As a CKAD-certified software engineer boy howdy am I excited for the insanity I'm about to witness

Old sysop of "The Rebel's Roost BBS" checking in and offering a salute to all you other pioneers of cyberspace! You're all legends!

The first BBS systems were run on 8 bit machines. I developed one of the first BBS systems for a TRS-80 model 1. It ran entirely in memory. Floppy disk drives were crazy expensive then, and a hard disk was completely a pipe dream. A 300 baud modem was $500, so I built my own modem from plans I found in a magazine. When the price of floppy drives came down, I upgraded the BBS to use the floppies, which held all of 256k bytes. I ran it for about 10 years. In the late 1980's, I sunsetted the BBS when I moved from one house to another. At that point, I had parlayed my knowledge of developing online systems into a real product run on a super micro computer with multiple CPUs and banked memory capable of handling 16 simultaneous users. The original BBS hardware is in a box in my attic, with the software for it safely stored in my home office waiting for 1980 to come back again.

Living in Southern California in the mid 80's I often connected to many local BBSs that ran off of Commodore 64s.

Oh boy bringing back some sorted memories. I ran a 16 line BBS from the late 80's to the early 90's. From a discarded XT to a 386, all on DOS using "Boyan BBS". Briefly went to ISDN but very soon with the AOL hack and other methods of getting to that new fangled Internet thing, BBS business dropped off. Didn't help that I as in the target area for the beta of the first GTE cable modems. But I thought I forgot all of the headaches of running that BBS and now after watching this I can honestly say they are all returning. Now if you started the whole build not from a clean Rocky9 install on the bare hardware but as a VM inside a Proxmox host, now THAT would have been the icing on the cake.

I'm a principal technologist at one of the big five technology companies, and I still think successfully configuring Front Door to work with FidoNet and my Telegard BBS is the greatest technological accomplishment of my life thus far.

One is not enthusiastic about Kubernetes. One has Kubernetes inflicted upon them.

I worked for Racal-Vadic, (a modem company in San Jose) in the '90's. I was also involved with the comity that decided on what to include in the 'AT' command set. I also ran a 2-line BBS at my home in Santa Cruz, CA It was called: Ocean Breeze BBS. I could accept any, buy I preferred: ZMODEM, (protocol) Handshake. It was faster then anything out their, and had unbelievable amount of command switches!

I was there at the beginning. I was using an Atari 800XL with a 300bps modem to connect to BBS'es.

Around here the local computer stores usually ran a BBS with a handful of modems. It was so you could download utilities and drivers and games. You could usually find lists and numbers of other BBS' to dial into from there. I ran a Renegade BBS, a DOS based BBS, for a few years for fun. Never got much above 2-3 lines as it was just a hobby. Apparently Renegade BBS got updated on May 6 2023 with Version 1.33 for DOS. My earliest run-ins with the actual internet were the door FTP downloaders.

Haven't the slightest clue during half the video (I know by name docker/kubernetes/ceph but... yea it's not my domain) but it was fun :D I was a bit too young for BBS, my time was more IRC :)

I absolutely love this video, like all your videos I knew it would be great, but it had a USR courier modem on the thumbnail so it was going to be extra special. This video absolutely exceeded my extra high expectations as you also had docker and asterisk too. I run my own pbx on asterisk on an 8pi cluster along with other bits and bobs including a econet to bbs bridge (all inside the pi cluster). My first bbs experience was with my 2400 baud modem calling a bbs in Selby. But a few years later I had a usr hst courier modem and eventually when it came out the usr dual standard v. Everything courier modem. At that time I was calling bbs’s in the USA and Germany a lot. Thank you for sharing, I think I maybe pretty close to to centre of your Venn diagram.

This is a ridiculous setup, totally cursed and I like it ;)

I miss the BBS days... WWIV, LotRD, Tradewars, The Pit.... These were my jam back in the day!

Always a happy day when a new Retrobytes video is released 🎉🎉😂 Love the subject ❤

A made my own own 300baud phone coupler modem,the case was made out of balsa wood. Circa 1981

Wow! This brings back memories!😉 I had 2 BBS programs actually. I started with DOS-based 'Tri-BBS' in the early 1990's and eventually had the resources to do two phone lines with a matched set of 56K hardware modems on an IBM 80486 with a 2 mb. RAM card and a 20 mb. hard drive.😄 Later on, I bought Excalibur BBS ($199 for a 2 node system!), and ran it first on Windows 3.11 for Workgroups, and later on Windows 95. It was actually a graphical interface, and the caller would have the option to download the graphical client for their machine on the first call-in, and then use the client for subsequent connections that would give them a nice GUI to work with. It was very customizable, but unfortunately Excalibur went belly-up in 1999, when the actual internet was already a thing since 1996 or so, and private (and commercial) BBS's were fading quickly. That said, if I got the urge to try to spin up one of my old BBS's just for fun, I'll just pull one of my old machines out of storage and do it right on bare metal hardware!👍👍

😮Wow! This was a very complicated system for a hobby project. I learned some things about Kubernetes and Ceph along the way, thanks! BTW, besides XModem there was the Kermit protocol which was quite advanced.

This is an incredibly disgusting way to set up a DOS BBS.. Somehow I approve of it.

I had a BBS in germany in early 90s, here ISDN was big so at the end I got 2 phone-lines with 2 ISDN cards and 4 maximum connections, analogue adapter so you can dial in via modem also (but only at the speed of 33k6 and 28k8). I also bought a used licence for "Remote Access", but only version 2, not 2.5. Since Harddrives where expensive I got 2 4xCD changer working really hard to deliver the files (some people would hang up if the file would not start downloading in a minute). Got a lot of doors (mostly games) and started developing my own games (like tic-tac-toe, 4-in-a-row or other mini-games, some even multiplayer or a real-time-chat interface). It was running on a network consisting of 2x 486 and 1x 386, using OS2 as underlying multitasking system so I could run 2 nodes on each 486 and the 386 was the file-server (horribly slow), using "Kirschbaum-Network", some BNC cables and only 10mbit. That was a nice thing to remember while watching your video. THX

I'm constantly amazed and impressed by your breadth and depth of knowledge. Our computing paths must have been extremely similar, as you know all the technology which I know.

Wow! Awesome video and a walk/run down memory lane. As the author of the DOS Telecom program Qmodem, I remember well the fun and excitement of getting "online". Cheers! John "Qmodem" Friel

Anyone else remember the good old days when you wanted software you just installed the software and it worked ?

Oh how I miss the BBS days! Watching this makes me want to get another PCBoard BBS up and running. I used to have a legit 100 node version of PCBoard 15.3 with PPL and the printed manuals, purchased from Clark Development before they went under. I had written PPE's to customize just about everything possible, but sadly all of that is long gone. A few of the PPE's I made public are still floating around the internet, but I don't have the source code for them any more.

This was an absolutely wonderful journey. I've watched a fair number of k8s explanations/tutorials, and by far this is my favourite + explains things very practically and effectively compared to the proper tutorials I've seen.

My dad used to run BBSes back in the day, and there was this other guy he was in competition with, where they'd continually try to one up each other. In the mid 90s Dad started an ISP and was surprised to discover his BBS competition was now his ISP competition, having opened one up just up the road

I ran a BBS for an Apple user group in the 80s. Apple //e running ProDOS and a program called GBBS using a variant of BASIC called ACOS. Lots of fun and we networked each night with other Apple BBS systems to trade messages and email. At one time we actually were able to link into FidoNet. All this on a machine running at 1Mhz and 128k of RAM. Storage was handled with a single 60 Megabyte SCSI drive connected to an Apple high speed SCSI card. Fastest speed of connection was with a US Robotics 14.4K modem. 56K was only being talked about back then with 28.8K just starting to come on the scene. There were several modem telecommunication programs available for the Apple 2 series with TIC, (Talk Is Cheap) being a favorite shareware program.

"... in the most obnoxiously modern way possible" sounds highly amusing. :) Oooh... you hit on some rather interesting ideas in your list of things you're not going to do.... I don't know what would be the point but the idea of running an entire Novel Netware network inside of a virtualised system of some kind sounds kinda cool... in an utterly pointless way.

I ran several iterations of a BBS on Renegade. Really loved that software. I can still remember the SysOp page on it. It was only a single line. There were a ton of single lines around where I lived. There were multiple multiline BBSes around though. The one I spent the most time on was a 4 line Amiga CNET BBS system. The school district had a 16 line BBS but I don't remember what software it was running. The newspaper company of our neighbor city started a BBS right before the web exploded that was the cadillac of BBSes. Single phone number that rolled over 32 lines if I remember correctly. It had a chat room and tons of files and became the place everybody called into to talk. The challenge back then was that the two cities had different exchanges and to call someone in the other city was long distance UNLESS you had a "metro" number. So there were a lot of systems that were only available to one city or the other unless you had a metro line or they upgraded to a metro line.

Came for DOS BBS, stayed for devops 101 and then some

That was amazing, well done sir! I fall into those overlapping venn diagram circles and thoughly enjoy these videos. Keep up the good work

I'm a beginner in both spaces, and this was an awesome video! I'd wondered how BBS systems worked (before my time, sorry) and this introduces it really well (and now I kind of want to try to make something similar based on SSH for a project), and I've also failed to set up Kubernetes in my lab because I never got past the "write a bunch of yaml files and try to convince K3S to run them" step, to which I've now seen the next layers. Very exciting, will be sharing this one.

Hearing about the heyday of XMODEM is wild, considering that I use it on a semi-regular basis today for firmware upgrades on "modern" network devices.

I didn’t get into bbs till the early 90s but really enjoyed it. I ended up having a couple hundred regular users until a person from Canada decided to log on all the local bbs systems of which I had made friends with the sysops and then steal my BBs name. They went on to create a large multi node BBs and then became an isp and sold the name to a larger isp. Needless to say it killed my BBs. But it was fun while it lasted. Most of the people were players of trade wars.

This was an awesome overload of information. Really enjoyed the retro application to modern overlap. Back in the day (early 90’s) I ran a mustang bbs. Always wanted to “revive” the old style feel of it with modern stacks.

I absolutely loved this video. Thanks. Didn't feel remotely long, and brightened a Saturday of tedious DIY!

I ran a small BBS on an Amiga 500 and NO hard drive. It was pure fun.

A sublime mix of the both the modern and the retro. Well done! Cheers!

So a friend of mine ran a major Amiga warez BBS back in the late 80s-mid 90s. Psychokinesis was the name IIRC. Dude had people connecting from around the world using questionable methods. He had like 40GB worth of cracked software running on tape drives of all things. It took a fair bit of time to seek to the right download, but after that it was full speed ahead. Wild times. Meanwhile, I ran one on an Apple //e through much of the 80s. No warez, but it was still pretty fun.

Sitting on the Docker the Bay.... superb work, John!

I fall into about 5+ of your Venn diagrams you brought up. I have an Amiga 500 with the same GVP A530 Turbo, 40mhz with a 100mb SCSI drive (still functional). I ran a Wildcat BBS (still have the floppies) on a Tandy Sensation 486SX25. Built a NULL modem cable with parts from Radio Shack to transfer data between PC and Amiga, had different pinouts. Remember Kermit? I used to work with Novell NetWare. Remember token ring? I remember file locking issues/corruption with Samba shares for MS Access DB files. Early adopter to Docker and Kube. Great explanation, and how kernel/hardware forwarding works. I use VirtualBox to run multiple instances of Android, for emulated games that can use my PC's powerful video card. I've used FIDOnet. Remember Lycos? Anyone still play VGA Planets by Tim Wisseman?

In high school (1996 i think) I built a renegade BBS for me and few buddies. The real reason, as sysadmin you can reset the day in LORD2 so I could get more turns and play it more. 😂

This is a work of art of a video. Both fun and frivolous and technically informative at the same time! It brings back a lot of memories for me. From BBSs to Compuserve to Cix. And an astronomical Mercury bill one month.

Fellow BBS and Kubernetes enthusiast here. Enjoyed the video. :D As an American, I got a laugh from the "and if you are feeling particularly American, *some pronunciation that I've never heard*". I think it's time to start confusing my coworkers with a new pronunciation :D. I had, at some point, started setting up a BBS on top of Kubernetes and eventually lost interest. Ended up running a single Mystic container on docker in a little throw away VM instead. I connect my old computers to it through a serial to wifi device.

Fun video! I ran a BBS using Fido (Data/SFnet, then Solbury HIll BBS), and was an early Fidonet node, I am sure it was one of the first 500, and maybe one of the first 200 nodes, I was node 163/5. LIke many, I went from Fido, to Opus and then Maximus. Before that I had accessed BBS using an Apple ][+ I had built. A friend ran an Apple 2 based BBS for many years, up until the //gs. I have on and off thought about bringing Solsbury Hill BBS back via the Internet, although I still have my US Robotics Courier V.everything modem. :-) So I will be watching to see how this projects goes...And I probably won't put together such and "Enterprise" level system, but I have a Rapsberry Pi 4b that is currently not being used, and might make a great candidate...maybe. Good Luck!

Made my first BBS when I was 11 using a Packard Bell 386 w/2400 bps modem.

5:27 Oh, the clack of the keyboard keys that now we’ve learned to hate but were so much of the vibe of knowing how to use a computer!

Great video. I hadn't ever even thought about running a DOS workload on my k8s cluster.

Thank you , just finished watching hoping for a part two

Thanks for the thorough and comprehensible explanation of how Docker containers work and how they differ from Virtual machines, what Kuberneats is and how it makes Docker containers hot swap-able across multiple servers. From there, seeing the rest of the stack of tools used to make this functional made my brain hurt. Sill, nothing like recreating the past for showing off the future! 🙂

My first internet connection was _via_ a BBS. There was a menu option for SLIP Gateway which would print an IP address and then talk SLIP protocol to allow you to send & receive IP packets to the Internet.

I ran a TriBBS BBS and then a PCBoard. I even got into coding PPE’s for PCBoard. Was a lot of fun. A group of friends who ran BBS outside of local dial areas we got together and made a network and synced data nightly so there was a mini internet going on with some door games and message boards, tons of fun, different time.

I don't know much about these things but the way you explained it was rather easy for me to understand the majority of it. And your voice is also pleasant to listen to, so this long video felt rather short xD Thanks ^_^

Epic! Always wanted to contact the numbers shown on PD games, ravey graphics demos and cracking team loading screens. I also enjoyed learning more about containers!

Fabulous video, BBSes were a thing I could never afford to get into, but looked at enviously from outside with my nose pressed against the glass of the window. These days spend a lot of my time in the trenches with docker. Overlap is almost certainly larger than you think.

"an ASCII Controe Cold" LOL. I do that all the time. Its so refreshing to hear someone else do it!!!!

Your explanation of containers, Docker, Kubernetes is frankly one of the best I have ever seen. In addition to all the enjoyable retro content.

This was an awesome breakdown and description of how to get things working. I think the only thing I would add is a hypervisor under your k3s layer so that you can run all of this on multiple "nodes" (VMs) on the same box, allowing you to scale up the physical hardware count later with minimal configuration.

This was awesome, and surprisingly a great introduction to Kubernetes that I didn't know I needed!

Thank you for such a long and in-depth video. I fondly rembember dialing up local BBSes as a middle-schooler to play trade wars and of course download the latest games. Going the k8s route was a wonderful choice for resurrecting the early days in a modern way! You've got me wondering if I should set up a duplicate of your setup here in the homelab. A deeper dive on the technicals, even a 2nd channel video, would definitely catch my eyeballs.

this guy could talk about anything, the voice is simply enough to enjoy it. and even then, he chose an interesting topic ! 10/10 stars!

The BBS days will always be up there with my fondest memories... It was a liberating and exciting time. I can't even imagine how many hours I spent dialing up tons of local boards to clean up my daily quotas for L.O.R.D. and Tradewars. I also recall being very proud that my board was a fidonet hub... It was rewarding to contribute to a what was arguably one of the most accessible forms of email before the internet was a publicly accessible thing. I think among all of the BBS software I ran, RemoteAccess had a special place in my heart.

This makes me happy ;) Instant subscription!

Fantastic detail in this one, as always. Given me a few ideas for some skunkworks projects. I can along right at the tail end of the BBS era. Even if I had a modem there was Zero chance my parents would let me take up the phone line with even local calls, lol.

Haha the thumbnail got me - I had a USR Courier when I were a lad thanks to me dads job needing good connectivity - I thought I was the daddy lol. then we got 64k ISDN and I still thought I was the daddy! Man those old things have a really fond place in my heart, MIRC, ICQ, Ultima Online, Using an old Pentium 100 as a Smoothwall etc etc. Such good times before the world seemingly just got plain worse and worse.

Great video, thanks for posting!

Brilliant explanation. Gonna share this with my Junior Devs

I don't exactly know how this ended up in my recommended since I'm a tad too young to have experienced BBS (I was born in 1990 and didn't become aware that computers could comunicate to each other until my dad introduced me to the internet around 97 or 98) and most of the Kubernetes stuff went right over my head but I'm glad I watched this whole thing since it was quite interesting and I learned a number of things, for example I think I finally grasped what containers and docker are. This project does seem to be some serious overkill for the scope of what it's supposed to do but I can see why you go with this approach, it just seems fun to mess around with these many layers and have it all work exactly how you want it to do so, specially if you already had all that hardware and didn't have to buy anything.

Nostalgia, oh nostalgia! 2:05 Look at that computer! Aaawww good times! Thank you for the trip to memory lane with enlightenment of the devices we had then to play with!

Before the internet usually means before the world wide web which was created in 1989. But BBS's were still used and very popular into the early to mid 90s.

I am dead in the center of the venn diagram. At work I am building a k8s cluster and I was a former sysop and FidoNet user. I tried running JetBBS and Wildcat in a qemu VM a few years ago with little success but now I'm inspired. I want to play tradewars.

So many things that I’d forgotten that I knew lol, mixed in with some things that I took for granted or didn’t know at the time, that time being circa 1993 when BBSes were a good way to get access to the Internet. Now I know I’m old lol. Love the simple way that you described containers too - I remember trying to explain the concept to people back when Solaris introduced them many years ago.

This is low key the best Kubernetes explanation I've watched so far. Impressive!

As a Kubernetes guy, it would be incredibly painfully modern if you converted the BBS software into an ingress controller of sorts. The “doors” would be ingress objects that could be routed by some ingress controller written for dos or something

Ran a BBS on an Amiga from about 1990 to about 2000 or so. Fantastic times, especially when someone called you and paged the sysop and you'd chat for hours but they'd be paying for the call 🙂

this is lovely and detailed - I'm rly curious to try it soon when it's public. sadly I'm just a bit too young to have used BBS

Honestly I was already familiar with almost everything you mentioned. However everything was just vague understandings of them. This has helped pull a lot of that together into a much more cohesive understanding and now I think I'll have to go and play with a lot of them tomorrow - its 11pm here now and I'm no longer a night own 😢

My friends and I were on BBSs a lot in the early 80's. I connected with a 300 baud modem. That's where we learned how to hack into our school's computer from home. The school didn't have a network of computers, just one Apple IIe shared by the office staff and administrators... I believe that was around 1983, maybe. We did have a small computer lab with older Apples that I learned to "program" BASIC on, but mostly we all just played games.

When you were talking about VMs, then containers, I began to wonder if your were going to go down the k8s rabbit hole. Didn't disappoint!

Nothing makes my day like another RB video!