I get the sense wizards wants the game to fail.

i did this with a draft box and got 200 ( box cost me 300) at best but i like cracking packs and spent another 160 buying the singles i want and i think the next set will be singles and a few pre-release kits. the cards i get and like will go into one of many EDH ( 50 plus and counting) decks or go to the binder for future decks.

Hello, pity they don't ship worldwide. I wanted to order. Greeting from Slovakia

Stupid question whats teh point of buying something for 250 to collect just to turn around and sell all of it worth anythign for 250 and have nothing but junk left over? as well isnt the point of collecting to have things that you like and enjoy, not to have a value to make money off of? that just sounds like work or profitering or scalping

would you take a weight loss sponsor?

Did you buy a booster box?

@@Macwylee Nope couldn't afford one, at the time i was luckly enough to play a commander masters draft, that was all i touched sealed.

Amen, quality content, no BS, the hero we need

I think this video helps illustrate the issue players have with CM. It wasn't that there isn't "value" within the set. The price to buy into the set is/was way too high. Commander, being casual and looking mostly for singles, is not a good place to put a product at double the price (or more) of a normal set.

You don't like all these videos where people's whole career and livelihood depend on magic doing well and people not getting sick of it so they release an unbiased video with merchandise provided by Wizards? Whatever man!

Participating in events at an LGS is the best way to collect cards from a new set, plus its fun to play Magic.

​​@@timlozoya1573exactly the value of the cards being so high isnt the problem. Having a collector item priced so high makes sense but having the price be out of reach defeats the purpose of people buying boxes in the first place. People buy packs to have fun either as draft or lottery. Pricing the "ticket" so high is exactly the reason why opening this set probably isn't doing well it feels bad to spend so much and get so little id rather spend a little and get less. Again boosters appeal to drafters and gamblers nobody wants to pay for a 50$ "ticket"

People would still complain. This set and all masters sets should be $150 max with standard sets being $100 max. Modern sets like mh2 should fit right in the middle.

@@squishyflapp9510ehh. I think $200 for 36 packs is fair. Good reprints for double the price. Like the first modern masters was $8 per pack

If this was $200 every single box in the country would sell out and the stores would be raising their prices to $300 due to demand.

​@RCMAM but it doesn't have to be that way. Wizards could just print more. Pokemon did that with their celebration set.

All these boxes have a value of at least $200 what are you even talking about

*debt

My spending on MTG lately has gone nuclear.. If I atom up it's a lot of money.. I guess I try to keep fission for special new cards.. I'll see myself out.

The true triple feature

@@TheBirdGroves Barbenheimer Masters

Considering the addictive quality and price point, I was expecting "Now I have become meth."

Lotus or bust quotient. I love it.

Id love that id also love he would open single boosters vs a box I've always had the indication that boosters secretly have worse odds.

Oh, great counter idea!

I wouldn't say sacrifice is appropriate here. The prof had 3 incredible boxes of CMM totalling over $1200 in value. Set boosters are down below $250 now. These boxes were the exception, not the rule.

@@squishyflapp9510They are between $450 and $500 a box in my area. So these would be duds if they were bought here.

No, it's not. Still around $6

One of the best reasons to watch!

As someone new to magic, can you explain the difference?

@@ernieels355the list is a selection of thousands of cards across Magic’s history that are reprinted, in the back of set boosters… with only a chance to get them. They have the planeswalker symbol in the bottom left, and they tend to be the most unique version of the card

Seconded, laidback format really enjoyed it

I will comment bc I didn’t he did this before but would be awesome to see

I’m in Ontario and I assure that’s bullcrap. I just checked 401games which operates out of Toronto, it’s one of their many LGS’ and they got a set booster box for $560, but it’s over $600 with tax. I’m literally in a position because the border is a short drive I might make a nice day trip out of it with my doggo to the US and grab a box at an LGS there

Yeah... Je vie le même problème 😅

At that point just order from a U.S. store and use one of those services where you ship to a temporary U.S. address then to you; even with the extra shipping and taxes it should be cheaper than $600 CAD. I'm not even going to get in to how garbage the conversion rate is.

indeed, the eldrazi unbound commander deck is priced at 180 CAD at my LGS, so 200 CAD with sales taxes :) not a premium product at all

Cheapest I can see for a set box here in the UK is £370, which works out to USD 472 or CAD 634... as our cards are printed in Belgium it's definitely not to do with over-inflated import charges, it's total bullshit that they just charge us the same number of pounds as they do dollars in the US and think that's fine.

In Australia I could buy a new Xbox Series S for less money than one of these booster boxes. A new ps5 with Baldur's Gate 3 and another new game would cost less than two of these boosters. Even Todd Howard's dumb Starfield watch feels like a better deal than this.

This is the set that officially has me on the just buying singles from here on out😅 I’m keeping my preorders because LGS but this set has proven so that singles is the only logical way to play this game

@@insainraven9875 Without Pack-Crackers...no singles could be sold!

Probably holding out on the shocks for a future Ravnica set, because those always get printed there

​@@TheMaestrosoyeah, they already revealed hallowed fountain for ravinica remastered

They are reprinting Shocks in Ravinica Remastered coming out next year. And MH3 will probably have the allied fetches.

They did the battle lands at least which have seen fewer printings overall and are arguably better for commander

@@Chaosuser32 I think thats only true for dual colored decks More than that and being searchable is a major upside

I played TOOL when opening mine, when I wasn't with friends 😢

hahaha

Gotta keep shilling them singles.

@@Sliverenthusiast buying singles is always the better method if you're looking to get specific cards. It's much better than wasting your money on gambling with packs and not getting what you wanted.

Was gonna say just this. So much Faithless Looting! Every time I glance at the screen… Faithless Looting! I think Wizards is trying to tell us something…

That's how I feel about Mystic Remora right now. When I got back into the game about a year ago, it was ~$10. Now it's $2.50 - $3.50. Good stuff.

I think she spiked hard around Neo Kamigawa, probably because of all the new ninja support, and slowly drifted back down until this set's reprints.

It's interesting to see a copy of Maelstrom Wanderer for so cheap as well. Never made a commander deck for him because I never wanted to pay the $20

​@@DeathEatsCurrynah the reprint tanked her hard

The reprint also hurt the promo price but hopefully it'll climb back

There was no such thing as set booster when those sets were in print.

@@johnbunceiii2668 Right, but there are still draft boosters in the current set. He's comparing products that aren't equivalent.

RIP to your wallet good sir. I fear the same thing would happen to me. I cannot bring myself to buy a box that costs half my paycheck and I don't even have a car OR house payment to pay.

And that 230$ in cards is based on LGS selling or buying list? And keep in ming that this 230$ you calculated is based on release price. Do the calculation in 3 months. And then do the calculation in 2 years when WotC will have reprinted again and again each cards in this set. Even if you had opened 450$ in value on release based on LGS selling prices, in reality, in the long term, you would get ripped off if you would proceed to sell these cards to an LGS.

I was thinking the same when I was into MTG. I justified buying into sealed because I liked the fact that when I wanted to build a deck I had enough cards to do so and most of the time I would only need to purchase a couple singles that i was missing and could go well in the deck. But, doing that, I was still using probably less than 5% of the cards I owned even if i had 15 Commander decks. 95% of cards sitting in my closet, having no purpose, just hope that I will come grab them one of these days. Looking back I think it would have been smarter to just buy singles and stick to a budget. I have probably spent more than 10 000$ on sealed for it to sit in a closet! And would I sell those cards today that I would be far far from recouping that money. WotC as tanked so much of the cards I have (no reserved list) that my collection is now worthless. MTG is too expensive and a waste of money is now my opinion. Looking back I should have stayed away from this game and put that money into something more useful or into some investment portfolio.

A few years back I saved up and bought a box of Master's 25. I got 3 mythics out of it with a combined total of like $20 and I already had a copy of one of those cards. The gambling really isn't worth it, especially at these new insane prices.

And Alayna Danner!

the money from youtube/sponsorship will cover it lol

Plus he can write it off on his taxes

So many smart people in this thread so far

I like to hit the 10-second skip until I see the price change, then rewind to see which card(s) did it, then fast forward again. ...At 2x speed.

Yeah after I high roll once I never try and recreate it

Congrats. I got a total of one medallion and 3 cards between 2 and 4 dollars in 5 packs. Rest was bulk.

@behemoth9543 I still need the medallions avacyn and Doubling season and great henge. But since many of those cards are for a deck that I'm trying to build over time ( few months to years depending on how long it takes for me to finalize the list and grab the cards for it) I'm willing to wait a bit for singles. That and doubling season will also be in wilds of eldrain so might as well wait then for the singlet when that gets yet another re-release.

Saw that too and thought wow it's worthless now?

Noticed that too as I'm probably picking one up soon, hoping it drops in the next month or so

@justin2039 hey, if it drops the price of the Antiquities version enough, I would just buy that version.

I think he just missed it, but to be fair you can get identical prints from other sets for $2 or $3 each.

Look up the cheapest jumpstart box and play some jumpstart maybe?

@factsandstuff2832 it's also more for gifts for friends as well.

​@@factsandstuff2832That's not even a good idea when the garbage set jumpstart boxes exist.

@austinrearick8946 I think he meant the good nonset Jumpstarts

@@wvanhuss4190 I would hope that's what they actually meant, but when someone says the cheapest jumpstart box, it's good to at least try and help clarify it further when someone could read that, see that the set ones are cheapest without knowing what they are, and getting one for someone with the thought that it was what was being recommended.

Wouldn't the original commander masters set technically be Chronicles? (I know it was EDH then, but still).

Thank you!