Let's read the judgment against Varg Vikernes (Burzum) | Black Metal History |

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Stare Into the Sun

3 ай бұрын

DISCLAIMER
In this video I present the judgment against Varg Vikernes (Burzum) as well as some of my initial thoughts on the judgment. Varg Vikernes was convicted of murdering the guitarist of the black metal band Mayhem and for burning down several churches in Norway. This is not an in depth legal analysis of the case. Neither should it be interpreted as an endorsement of any of the parties involved.
This video features my personal views and is not to be in any way interpreted as a statement made in my professional role. It is meant for entertainment only.
There are three names I initially intended to censor and therefore did not read out aloud, partly due to european defamation regulations; a third person convicted in another case as well as two expert witnesses. However, as I realised that the first mentioned person was Faust from Empreror and that it is well known already that he was convicted for murder and arson I realised that it was not necessary to censor the name. Regarding the medical experts, they made their statements in their professional roles and their names are therefore not sensitive information in this context.
Finally, the names of professional subjects, such as the prosecutor, attorney and members of the court are for obvious reasons not sensitive information and therefore not censored.
If you have thoughts or comments about the judgment you are welcome to discuss them in the comments section.
Correction: Vikernes had been detained for 285 days prior to the judgment.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:12 - Reading the judgment
22:13 - My initial reaction to the judgment
27:09 - To Hell & Back
35:20 - Concluding thoughts

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@SASTORM
@SASTORM 18 күн бұрын
I agree that paper's poor, either way not an expert on Norway's judicial system but if I heard it right its an appeal conviction so there's not gonna be lots of details in it because that was the judge's job at the inferior tribunal, Also have to mention one legal aspect, Vikernes never denied killing Euronymous, his strategy was to argue self defense, well in that case its his job, not the prosecutors, to prove that, if it was opposite anyone would kill and say "self defense" and get away with murder, but guess what he wasnt able to convince anyone (judge, police, members of the court) that it really was a life or death situation due to the victim's own actions, what is clear and no one disputes is that Vikernes and a third party drove from Bergen to Oslo in the middle of the night, armed with at least one knife, and confronted a much smaller man with the poor excuse of signing a contract, it doesnt make any sense to do all that just to get the victim out of your life as Varg claims, my guess is that once inside Euronymous apartment he just tried to kill him, or at least provoked him into a fight and produce the perfect excuse to kill, but he didnt expect to have most of the fight outside the apartment, its really foolish to pretend to claim self defense from a running man in panic mode, Even according to Vikernes, Snorre's testimony was against him because he was a "mental" case, thats a poor reason to take credit away from a witness. Police and prosecutor knew they had the guy, and his defense strategy didnt work, how to convince anyone with braincells that you were fighting for your life when you have a much smaller running victim in underwear, trying to escape in panic and screaming for help. Thinking of Euronymous really wanting to kill Vikernes is contradictory to any allegation that he attacked first that night, it doesnt match his supposed plans of using a stun gun, shotgun or any similar means and torture Vikernes to death, its even laughable at this point of events
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet 18 күн бұрын
Thanks to Googoo, finding the official documentation of the court's assessment of Vikernes is like trying to push shit up a hill with a fork. But just listening to the idiot rant and rave shows that he is intellectually impaired in some manner and is a classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 17 күн бұрын
You are right that appeals judgments are usually very short compared to first instance (like a district court) judgments. However, in some jurisdictions the court of appeal is first instance for some cases. This is also how it was with murder in Norway at the time. But perhaps that is why the judgment is so bad. The court of appeal is used to only having to comment on an existing judgment. Now they had to do it from scratch; take upp all evidence and write it all themselves.
@Genetic_Memory
@Genetic_Memory 2 ай бұрын
They were intent on teaching this man a lesson owing to his difference in moral code. I would say it backfired on them big time.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 2 ай бұрын
One could speculate that as they saw the emergence of the black metal movement they panicked and felt a need to bring it to a halt as soon and forcefully as possible. Varg was perceived as the leader so they made an example of him. I think they were intent on jailing him no matter what the evidence looked like.
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet 18 күн бұрын
@@solaris9250 In all fairness, if Varg was your first impression of black metal, you would want to put a stop to it as best you can, too. But popheads tried to erase doom metal in the 1980s with glam etc, so one should just dismiss it as typical normie behaviour. The idea that the people they shit on might have different ideas about how the world should work to them is not something they are capable of understanding.
@bkenwood88
@bkenwood88 Ай бұрын
This was excellent dude! You have a knack for presentation.
@seanlishman3247
@seanlishman3247 23 күн бұрын
Learnt something new today, didn't know Varg had a child before he was arrested
@majakoren1746
@majakoren1746 2 күн бұрын
Yes, a daughter Rebekka.
@ridlaridlidouzou
@ridlaridlidouzou Күн бұрын
She was born (Varg was 19-20) after all albums ware recorder but not released, except ''Anti-black metal'' album filosofem. Burzum 1992 album was already released by Euro. She was born probably very close to helvete shutdown, that Vargs promo/interview or De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas rehearsals and recording, late 1992 or early 1993. And then was a big conflict between him and Euro after all bs. He wanted to move on with burzum project and unreleased albums, but Euro was playing with him. Dont forget he was 5 years older than Varg, both with massive egos. Now if you look Varg situation, new born child; success from music that puts bread on the table; respect from others,... We can see why he was not taking shit from him. Euro was probably very surprised when varg showed up and than panicked when it became physical. He realised, shit he ain't playing. Now, Det som engang var was released in same month after death of Euro. Hvis lyset tar oss, month before trial. And, De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas same month after trial. He recorded Dauði Baldrs in prison later that year. What a strong drive and promotion skills he had, even from mayhem and darkthrone. This is the end and ''new'' start of BM. Filosofem and De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas are the magnum opus of that era, both released when he was in prison. Thanks to OG album A Blaze in the Northern Sky, first Burzum album, early Thorns recordings and mayhem concerts (specially hell hammers drumming and Dead vocals). The end. I don't know, but there is something to think about. Does anyone know that woman that he had Rebekka with? She probably has something to say about those days.
@majakoren1746
@majakoren1746 Күн бұрын
@@ridlaridlidouzou I couldn't find anything about her.
@maje.883
@maje.883 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video anzd the reading of the judgment. Varg has said in his book that he asked his lawyer well what about this or that, his lawyer told him we will bring it up later and he never did. Like you have said they wanted to teach this man a lesson no matter if he burnt churches or whatever evidence he may have for self defense they wanted to throw the book at him
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 19 күн бұрын
Yeah, in a normal judgment you would read something like "the defendant has admitted to stabbing the victim but claimed self defense..." This judgment mentions ZERO points raised by the defense. Could very well be like Varg says that his lawyer did the least possible during the trial. Some defense attorneys are like that, they don't care about the case and just want to go home with a paycheck.
@ansari8225
@ansari8225 Күн бұрын
I agree with you,there's almost no discussion of evidence. There's logical reasoning as to why they took certain actions, but no evidence is mentioned, as to explain why they come to those conclusions.
@cryptomnesiac
@cryptomnesiac 9 күн бұрын
One new element for me is that Snorre's involvement, at least according to the court was more active than previously stated by Varg if he was in fact armed himself and involved in preliminary discussions about what should or would happen to Aarseth. Other than that, no real answers from the state.
@GeorgeSearsSolidusSnake
@GeorgeSearsSolidusSnake 2 ай бұрын
Great video really enjoyed it
@hijackbyejack1729
@hijackbyejack1729 13 күн бұрын
Hvor kan man finne det sjølv?
@NoxGrim
@NoxGrim 15 күн бұрын
Interesting information (and kind of asmr). Thanks.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 13 күн бұрын
Thanks! Also you are the second person now to tell me the last part.
@majakoren1746
@majakoren1746 3 күн бұрын
​@ I can confirm. Very calm voice.solaris9250
@alexejnemov
@alexejnemov 4 күн бұрын
Don't swallow every words Varg says for good fish.
@chestbuster1987
@chestbuster1987 21 күн бұрын
Great video! As with many things, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Suffice to say, everything went a bit too far in the black metal scene at the time.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 19 күн бұрын
Two people know what really happened, one of them is dead.
@qtnshy
@qtnshy 20 күн бұрын
I'm honestly surprised that Varg still claims that his life was in threat while describing how he killed a man who was basically screaming for help. That doesn't that everything Varg says it's a lie, but it's still something that at least for me, makes no sense, like how do you defense yourself from someone who can't even defend himself?
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 3 күн бұрын
I can easily imagine it starting as a self defense situation, but with Varg continuing long after the initial threat was averted.
@beiragusa
@beiragusa 12 күн бұрын
Fun fact; in prison, as Norwegian prisons go, they didn't give him a guitar to play in his time as his music ''inspired violence'', instead he was given a synthesizer, so Varg being Varg, he invented a new menacing genre of music called dungeon synth and included it in his newer albums.
@Zeitgeist6
@Zeitgeist6 6 күн бұрын
Dauði Baldrs and Hliðskjálf are great.
@stirpsromanica
@stirpsromanica 3 күн бұрын
He didn't invented it
@hextatik_sound
@hextatik_sound 16 күн бұрын
Why don't you mention Bård Eithun when it clearly says that on the paper?
@outis439-A
@outis439-A 16 күн бұрын
What does he have to do with it?
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 16 күн бұрын
There is a simple explanation. When I recorded the reading I did not know who Bård was. In my country publicly talking about how someone is a convicted criminal can get you into a defamation lawsuit. I wanted to not break the defamation laws in my country. So I originally intended to also blur out the name on the paper. But then I found out this was actually another famous musician, so I realised his crimes were already known to the public. Therefore no need to blur the name, but I did not have time to re-record the reading.
@hextatik_sound
@hextatik_sound 15 күн бұрын
@@solaris9250 Good explanation, thank you!
@marniestewart
@marniestewart 16 күн бұрын
So as far as the murder goes, they apparently had a bloody handprint or fingerprint as well as the signed contracts with his name putting him at the scene. Then with the testimony from two people claiming that they assisted in creating an alibi, that's enough evidence to convict someone of first-degree murder. Which it so obviously was. The church burning is a different story. But ultimately 16 years in prison for a senseless, brutal murder is very lenient, and he deserved it Are people able to access more information from this case? Is this all you could find? Where did you even find it?
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 14 күн бұрын
Interesting, where did you get this info?
@marniestewart
@marniestewart 7 күн бұрын
@@solaris9250 Satan rides the media.
@thundertruckinwilly4582
@thundertruckinwilly4582 16 күн бұрын
I am, admittedly, not familiar with the Norwegian judicial system. But if this was an American judgment, nothing about it would be “crap”. Judgements are not a painstaking recitation of presented facts. They are the decision of a trial and the basic reasoning behind them. The level of detail you’re looking for is going to be present within the trial transcripts and documented evidence themselves. How did you get this judgment? Can you get the rest of the trial transcripts the same way? You conclude by saying that Varg is innocent until proven guilty in a way that may suggest that hasn’t happened. Varg is a premeditated murderer. It’s that simple. He can define it however he wants, but an impartial court has decided it to be so. Thus it is so. Think of yourself as a judge or on a jury and imagine how the exact scenario Varg laid out is going to be presented by the prosecutor. Varg went to Oystein's house at 3am. Their relationship had been publicly deteriorating for months. Varg pre-emptively begins to stab Oystein on some nebulous threat of a shotgun that he openly admits to never having actually seen. Oystein tries to run away. Varg continues to stab him in the back. (I shouldn’t have to point out how ludicrous the idea of stabbing a fleeing person in the back under the guise of self defense is.) Oystein trips, falls in some glass, Varg and Snorre corner him. When a grievously injured Oystein tries to defend himself from his cornered position by kicking Varg, he receives a deathblow to the skull. To me, it isn’t hard at all to see how this judgment came down the way it did, just from Vargs story. He killed a guy. If his defense in court was anything like it is in the book it’s not a surprise that he lost his case. In most countries he’d still be in prison for what he did; not chilling on Twitter in France.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 14 күн бұрын
I am comparing to swedish judgments, since that is what I am familiar with. Norway belongs to the same legal family though so I expect the systems to be similar. If you go way back, like a 100 years, the judgments were typically just the actual verdict and contained very little or no weighing of evidence, but for a long time, definitely more than 30 years, judgments are usually written as a kind of recreated fictional train of thought about how the court interpreted the evidence and how it arrived at its conclusion. The swedish procedural law also states that a judgment has to show how and why the court arrived at its conclusion. Failure to do so or being too vague are actually grounds for retrial and it is not entirely uncommon for a higher court to send the case back to the lower court if the judgment does not display the thougt process behind the conclusion. Personally, I believe failure to motivate a verdict in a clear and understandable way is a violation of the right to a fair trial. Btw I haven't read any other norwegian judgments and I can't even imagine how judgments in criminal cases in jury system courts (like the US) are written, since it is the jury and not the judge that determine if someone is guilty or not. I'm thinking of recording a video where I go through the judgment against Jon Nödveit from Dissection, which is a wonder of transparency in comparison to this badly written novel. Lastly, I don't necessarily believe Varg was completely innocent. But there are at least a couple of plausible alternative versions about how things went down that night. For example 1. That it truly was a self defense situation, at least until Euronymous started fleeing, or 2. That it wasn't self defense but neither a premeditated murder. Could have been a heat of the moment thing. My firm opinion is that the judge should have written how the evidence supported the prosecutors version and why the court so readily discarded everything Varg said. If I make the video about the Dissection murder then it will be clear what a well morivated judgment looks like.
@thundertruckinwilly4582
@thundertruckinwilly4582 13 күн бұрын
@@solaris9250 Another video on Nodveit would be really interesting. A comparison with Bard Eithun would also be interesting considering his case's similar aspects to both Varg and Nodveit. Again, if this came down in America it would be pretty standard. But it's also very easy to find out what a prosecutor argued within a trial if you want to and how that fits into the judgement. Our transparency laws are pretty good in the regard. You mention that this happened in an appellate court. Did Varg have recourse to further appeal this decision because of the reasons you describe? If so, do you know if he did that?
@YamnayaSintash
@YamnayaSintash 9 күн бұрын
I admire Varg for his views about preserving Europe as a cultural and biological entity.
@eladbenm
@eladbenm 9 күн бұрын
Oh.
@thrwwccnt5845
@thrwwccnt5845 5 күн бұрын
Slava Banderi
@alexejnemov
@alexejnemov 4 күн бұрын
A judgment is exactly just a judgment, not a summary of an intire court hearings and lists of evidences. I think you misunderstand man.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 4 күн бұрын
Be sure to watch my upcoming video about the judgment in the Dissection murder case.
@ansari8225
@ansari8225 Күн бұрын
​@@solaris9250Jon and his friend shot the gay guy in cold blood with a shotgun at point blank range if I remember correctly.
@wodensthrone5215
@wodensthrone5215 22 күн бұрын
The Norwegian prison system was like a hotel visit for Varg and they allowed him to make albums in prison. Also, according to Varg, the inmates had respect for him because he "unalived" someone face to face, instead of using a gun or a projectile, his prison time was nothing. Varg wouldn't have bruises from Euronymous because Euronymous was an extremely skinny dude, you could basically fart on him and the wind from it would knock him over.
@solaris9250
@solaris9250 21 күн бұрын
I have worked in a swedish prison a long time ago and I imagine conditions were comparable in many ways. It is true overall that life there is comfortable; they have video games, TV on the room, access to gym etc. However, conditions usually differ within a country between prisons (especially between old/new and high/low security classes) and there is also the occasional sadist prison guard who likes to make life difficult for inmates. I have read Varg's book about his prison years and it seems he got to experience both easier and more difficult conditions, altough compared to something like a US prison he definately had it easy. One must also remember though that imprisonment in itself is very stressful even if conditions are comfortable. You are probably right about Euronymous. But it would be nice to read an expert opinion of whether a lot of the so called stab wounds were actually from broken glass, if he had a shotgun in the apartment and whether or not he had talked to others about eliminating Varg.
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet
@MyDogStuckMyHeadDownTheToilet 18 күн бұрын
@@solaris9250 Finding the court documentation of the trial and evidence is going to be quite a challenge. But given how Euronymous took pieces of Dead's skull and mailed them to people as well as made jewellery out of it, I have no problem believing in the absence of evidence to the contrary that he talked about killing Varg. Necrobutcher's interview statement about wanting to kill Euronymous himself makes it pretty clear that if Varg had not done it, someone would have.
@jonirissanen3038
@jonirissanen3038 11 күн бұрын
Vargs bones get broken from hes jaws in prison!!! Thats a fact....😊
@ansari8225
@ansari8225 Күн бұрын
​@@solaris9250yeah, it doesn't seem like they made any real effort, into investigating fully the incident,or any alternate possibilities.
@diabolikalm
@diabolikalm 2 күн бұрын
Definitely wasn’t self defence. Varg was still owed money by the same person he wanted to arrange another “contract signing with”. Why would you drive 7 hours to sign a contract at 3am with a person you dislike and was owed money by? 🤔 How is it self defence when you are armed with a weapon and the person you are chasing is unarmed?
@ansari8225
@ansari8225 Күн бұрын
The contract could have been an agreement, to release him from his previous agreement.
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