He’s a skill why should science be more viable

@@sir_clapsalot4011 I’m saying science champs shouldn’t be able to shut down bullseye with like concussion or disorient, etc.

@@sir_clapsalot4011read it again since you cant comprehend

Slow from science doesn't work on skills anyway

@@vgautamkrishna5197 yes because of class disadvantage, same with mystics, they can't slow a science champ

She’s pretty good against bullseye, bleed immune and tanky, plus you can slow play for most the fight, then burst him down in sandstorm, so killer instinct isn’t as bad.

Right, especially when you consider champs like dust,onslaught, maestro, or the serpent. Nobody complains about them so I don’t understand why people want bullseye to get more nerfed. Especially when there is counters towards him (bleed immune champs for example)

@@jeanfigueroa9637 exactly

@@jeanfigueroa9637 You can take any onslaught in BGs in about 60s with 90%+ health with any good attacker, you cannot do the same with bullseye. As for the serpent, ppl complain about him all the time: he is worse to fight than bullseye. I want only one thing: if I can perfect dex his sp1 (it's not easy) I should take no dmg regardless of champion I use.

@@muxie4877 the problem with onslaught is he can play super passive and get you as soon as you try to punish him. His AI is just as bad (or worse) than bullseye. This isn’t new that there’s champs you can’t dex there specials, considering photon (when her thing activates), punisher 2099, apocalypse (sp1 it’s somewhat avoidable), I can’t think of more champs that are hard to dex when it comes to specials but I understand your point, my point is there will always be champs who’s sps are just impossible to dex. It’s all about counters in the end of the day, if you can’t handle bullseye then simply ban him on BG (I understand the issue isn’t just in BG, but AW as well. But there you can bring a specific counter against him.)

​@@jeanfigueroa9637 I agree that there are issues with AI, but they are separate from the discussion about the champions themselves. The thing is, there is nothing inherently busted about onslaught, while the same cannot be said about bullseye. The core issue is not that his sp1 is almost impossible to dex, but that the punishment we, players receive when we are facing him is too great. In essence the issue with bullseye is the same as with magik back in the day: you can play perfectly and you will still receive dmg most of the time. It's just a sign of lazy design. Look at a golden standard of the defenders: korg. He has been super strong on defense for ages but you can get him down with full yellow bar with ANY champ in the game. This means that his kit leaves a lot of room for skill expression while facing him. I'm okay with hard defenders, but at least make it possible (I'm not saying it should be easy) to finish without taking dmg. I would even be fine with them BUFFING bullseye in some other way but delete the stupid bleed on dex, I sould never get punished for doing the right thing. Ofc, it doesn't matter cuz Kabam as per ususal will do nothing, and just continue to release new champs scientifically designed to counter the problems they have created.

Facts bro

You mean exactly 3 players that can perfect dex his sp1 using a bleed immune champ? No one is saying he cannot be countered, only that he is TOO HARD to counter. That is not an opinion but a fact that Kabam agrees with (hence the nerf). The issue is that this change does not address the main issue ppl have lol.